Re: [Flexradio] audio punch (SVN 1879) - K6JCA Console

2008-01-07 Thread Thompson_Peter
conditions. 73, Pete N3EVL > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > radio.biz] On Behalf Of Edwin Marzan > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:08 PM > To: FireBrick; FlexRadio List > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] audio punch (SVN 1879) - K6JCA Console &g

Re: [Flexradio] audio punch (SVN 1879) - K6JCA Console

2008-01-07 Thread Edwin Marzan
I wrote here a few months ago concerning the fact that I was unable to drive the audio hard enough on my SDR1000 to see the meters kick up on my power supply and watt meter. Using Comp & Cpdr settings at 2 made a considerable difference. I also noticed John (W5GI)mention the DX button on the co

Re: [Flexradio] audio punch

2007-06-04 Thread Ahti Aintila
Marketing and Product Manager > FlexRadio Systems > 512-535-5266 > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stig Rasmussen > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 1:28 PM > To: Ahti Aintila; Dale Boresz > Cc: flexradio@flex-ra

Re: [Flexradio] audio punch

2007-06-04 Thread John P Basilotto W5GI
Aintila; Dale Boresz Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] audio punch Hello, please stop this. :-) I dont want any discussion around ESSB / and or DX-pileups modulation. Whats best etc. My point is only to state the fact that SDR-1000 handle bass-less modulation much less punchy than

Re: [Flexradio] audio punch

2007-06-04 Thread Stig Rasmussen
used. Thats it! If there is an explanation I would like to hear... Stig -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Ahti Aintila [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 4. juni 2007 10:26 Til: Dale Boresz Kopi: Jim McLester; flexradio@flex-radio.biz; Stig Rasmussen Emne: Re: [Flexradio] audio punch Stig and Jim

Re: [Flexradio] audio punch

2007-06-04 Thread Ahti Aintila
Stig and Jim, Dale is telling the plain truth, if your main interest is getting your signal through in noisy conditions and DX pileups. The basses convey very little speach information, but eat up the limited power of your transmitter. Unless you want to broadcast a Hi-Fi music program on ham band

Re: [Flexradio] audio punch

2007-06-03 Thread Dale Boresz
r-driven signal. 73, Dale WA8SRA Jim McLester wrote: > Same here, recording studio guy / ham op down the street sees the same on my > rig. > > Jim - W4YXU > > - Original Message - > From: "Stig Rasmussen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent:

Re: [Flexradio] audio punch

2007-06-03 Thread Jim McLester
Same here, recording studio guy / ham op down the street sees the same on my rig. Jim - W4YXU - Original Message - From: "Stig Rasmussen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] audio punch > > I tried much d

Re: [Flexradio] audio punch

2007-06-03 Thread Stig Rasmussen
I tried much different settings with external audio processing. I mostly run ESSB with much bass. Then the talk power is really good. My watt-meter (Daiwa CN-101L)peaks around 50-60W on normal speaking, with external audio gear. If i try to get a squeeky (thin) dx-modulation, all power dissappear.

Re: [Flexradio] audio punch

2007-06-02 Thread Chris Maukonen
Edwin Marzan wrote: > I'm thinking that any type of external processing will eventually be > matched wth a software version. It is just a matter of time before we > will all have these capabilites built in. It would be interesting to > know the make and model of the unit you are using to enhance

Re: [Flexradio] audio punch

2007-06-02 Thread Edwin Marzan
d on SSB. Eventually... Edwin Marzan AB2VW >From: Chris Maukonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz >Subject: Re: [Flexradio] audio punch >Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 15:46:00 -0400 > >Interesting thread. I currently use a small

Re: [Flexradio] Audio Punch

2007-06-01 Thread Frank Mayer
Great job. Audio punch is much improved! Farnk, WA3JBT - Original Message - From: "Robert McGwier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Dave & Nancy Ridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Audio Punch

Re: [Flexradio] Audio Punch

2007-06-01 Thread Robert McGwier
Two years ago before we redid the transmitter from the ground up to produce a larger punch audio chain, and have all of the stages metered, the compander was being overdriven by stages in front of it. There was an ad hoc scaling added by me to keep it from overdriving the stages beyond it, in

Re: [Flexradio] audio punch

2007-05-31 Thread Steve Kirk (KW5TX)
I use another receiver with headphones...mostly a 746Pro and when I wanna hear what my other radios sound like...I use the flex with headphones as the receiver as someone said earlier today Good is Subjective ... Its chevys and fords man steve kw5tx Ken N9VV wrote: > I would like to jump

Re: [Flexradio] audio punch

2007-05-31 Thread Ken N9VV
I would like to jump in and ask about real-world measurements. From what I hear on the air, most guys rely on the *totally subjective* assessment of another Ham to tell them about their audio. This is great if the Receiving Ham is a talented audiophile but what about his *hearing*, his *speaker

Re: [Flexradio] audio punch

2007-05-31 Thread Charles Greene
Right on, Ray. Lets hope it works its way up to the top of the list soon. Has anyone added it to the enhancement list? Chas At 07:35 AM 5/31/2007, Ray Andrews wrote: >Chas, > >Of course the Flex Radio programmers can do it. But, I am certain >that just like software projects at my soon-to-be

Re: [Flexradio] audio punch

2007-05-31 Thread Chris Maukonen
Interesting thread. I currently use a small mixer for my mic preamp with a nano compressor set to be a brick-wall limiting only. Works very well. By the way that is what they used to do on am broadcast stations. No compression, just limiting. Chris WA4CM --

Re: [Flexradio] audio punch

2007-05-31 Thread Al
If you have not looked at VE3NEA Vshaper, you should ! It is instructive to just play with it outside of the SDR. It includes a build in recorder loop that lets you listen to the result as you adjust the setting ( both with and without QRN & QRM ). With the SDR, you can select the Vshaper inpu

Re: [Flexradio] Audio Punch

2007-05-31 Thread Jim Lux
At 08:28 AM 5/31/2007, Frank Mayer wrote: >I guess Yaesu was one of the pioneers of RF speech processing way back in >the early 70's with the Ft-101 series of transceivers. The way that these >RF Processors work is they convert the audio from the mic input to RF with a >SSB generator. They use cl

Re: [Flexradio] Audio Punch

2007-05-31 Thread Ahti Aintila
"Ahti Aintila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Greg - ZL3IX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 5:26 AM > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Audio Punch > > > > Hi Greg et al, > > > > FINALLY! Ihave been waiting for 4 years that

Re: [Flexradio] Audio Punch

2007-05-31 Thread Frank Mayer
I am not familiar with the voice shaper. Is this supposed to be incorporated into the SDR? - Original Message - From: "Ahti Aintila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Greg - ZL3IX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 5:26 AM Subject: Re: [Flexradi

Re: [Flexradio] Audio Punch

2007-05-31 Thread Frank Mayer
-1000 series, Kenwood TS-870, Icom ProIII) - Original Message - From: "Jim Lux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Frank Mayer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Greg - ZL3IX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Audio Pun

Re: [Flexradio] Audio Punch

2007-05-31 Thread Jim Lux
At 01:33 AM 5/31/2007, Frank Mayer wrote: >I am in agreement with you Greg as far as the clipper goes. Some of the >other posts so far are saying to use external gear. That's ok for the >"audio" boys but an RF Clipper is a different animal. I don't believe >anyone is manufacturing an external un

Re: [Flexradio] Audio Punch

2007-05-31 Thread Jerry Harley
Larry W8ER wrote: > Frank ... everyone that I know that is serious about audio and owns a > Flex is using external processing for exactly the reason that you are > inquiring about. I have been absolutely unable to get close to the > performance of a simple external hardware preamp and compresso

Re: [Flexradio] Audio Punch

2007-05-31 Thread Tim Ellison
: Re: [Flexradio] Audio Punch At 07:12 PM 5/30/2007, Larry W8ER wrote: >Frank ... everyone that I know that is serious about audio and owns a >Flex is using external processing for exactly the reason that you are >inquiring about. I have been absolutely unable to get close to the >perform

Re: [Flexradio] Audio Punch

2007-05-31 Thread Steve Kirk (KW5TX)
Thank God ...I thought I was the only one that thought Comp/Compndr was way lacking! (as well as the ANF). I know alota folks don't need or want anything other than Communication Audio...and after talking with 100's of hams on the air...I see their point. It's usually wasted on people listening

Re: [Flexradio] audio punch

2007-05-31 Thread Ray Andrews
Chas, Of course the Flex Radio programmers can do it. But, I am certain that just like software projects at my soon-to-be former job, there is a very large list of things they want to do & a list of things that MUST be done 1st to meet a deadline, such as getting the code ready for the Flex-50

Re: [Flexradio] audio punch

2007-05-31 Thread Charles Greene
Hi, Well, it seems to me that if VE3NEA can do it, then the FlexRadio software engineers can too. I do have a FireBox. so I will try it per below. 73, Chas W1CG At 04:30 AM 5/31/2007, Giuseppe Campana wrote: >Hi > >for all interested increase the audio performance in his SDR1K, >please look a

Re: [Flexradio] Audio Punch

2007-05-31 Thread Ahti Aintila
Hi Greg et al, FINALLY! Ihave been waiting for 4 years that other flexers start get interested. As an old hardware man I have been talking about RF clipping alot. I want to admit that the time of this method is over already during this SDR era, but that function in the more sophisticated software

Re: [Flexradio] Audio Punch

2007-05-31 Thread Greg - ZL3IX
Frank Mayer wrote: > I wonder if this type of circuit CAN be written in > software. > Hi Frank, Indeed it can. In my previous employment we used one that was written in DSP assembler for the 56002 (not by me unfortunately, although I did give the algorithm inputs). It was very effective.

Re: [Flexradio] Audio Punch

2007-05-31 Thread Frank Mayer
lieve that a good RF Clipper/Processor is an essential feature that must be included IN a rig. Just like RIT, etc. I wonder if this type of circuit CAN be written in software. - Original Message - From: "Greg - ZL3IX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 3:41 AM

Re: [Flexradio] audio punch

2007-05-31 Thread Giuseppe Campana
Hi for all interested increase the audio performance in his SDR1K, please look at this VE3NEA software: http://www.dxatlas.com/vshaper/ I use it with the on board audio of my P4, placing the out to input of my FA66, with outstanding performance: EQ/RFclipper/Gate. If you have Firebox, you can us

Re: [Flexradio] audio punch

2007-05-31 Thread Greg - ZL3IX
My experience of listening to the SDR1000 on the air is also that there is no audio punch. I keep a sked with a ZS every Friday over quite a difficult polar path. He has two radios, one an old analogue rig with an RF clipper, and the other an SDR1000. When the path is especially difficult, o

Re: [Flexradio] Audio Punch

2007-05-31 Thread Greg - ZL3IX
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Re: [Flexradio] Audio Punch

2007-05-30 Thread Jim Lux
At 07:12 PM 5/30/2007, Larry W8ER wrote: >Frank ... everyone that I know that is serious about audio and owns a >Flex is using external processing for exactly the reason that you are >inquiring about. I have been absolutely unable to get close to the >performance of a simple external hardware prea

Re: [Flexradio] Audio Punch

2007-05-30 Thread Larry W8ER
Frank ... everyone that I know that is serious about audio and owns a Flex is using external processing for exactly the reason that you are inquiring about. I have been absolutely unable to get close to the performance of a simple external hardware preamp and compressor with the built in softw