Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Additional Languages

2023-08-21 Thread Aitor Santamaría via Freedos-devel
Hello, The report of Henrique, very accurate as usual :) I just wanted to add two extras: - Table-making characters that mixed single-lined and double-lined borders were reused to accomodate the extra characters. That is why programs that used tables mixing single-lined and double-lined borders

[Freedos-devel] FDI - Wiki

2016-05-07 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Hello all, For those who are interested, I have been working on the FDI Wiki. It is not complete yet. However, It currently contains the everything you would need to know to build a FDI based FreeDOS release. Including, how to replicate the build environment, updating and adding packages and ha

[Freedos-devel] FDI Preview 15, Update 3

2016-04-15 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Hello All, Sorry that it took so long, but I have been swamped the last couple weeks. Anyhow, I updated vinfo in V8Power tools to detect QEMU. So, FDI should no longer get stuck by trying to create a RAMDRIVE or have issues under QEMU emulation. Preview 15 Update 3 is now available at http://

[Freedos-devel] FDI Preview 15, Update 2

2016-04-03 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Hello All, I just pushed another minor update to Preview 15. Changes: - Typo correction on Partition Drive Screen. - Automatic updating of installed FDNPKG.CFG drive letters to C: (some were left pointing to D: after USB stick installation) Thanks, Jerome -

[Freedos-devel] FDI Preview 15, Final Preview

2016-03-29 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Hello All, Well I finally had a little bit of spare time and incorporated the enhancements I mentioned. I foresee no further changes or enhancements. Technically, preview 15 should be called Beta or RC 1. However, I just finished the modifications and hammered on the latest version. So, I am j

[Freedos-devel] FDI Preview 14

2016-03-06 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Hello All, The wholesome and awesome goodness of the FreeDOS Installer Preview 14 is now available. P14 contains many improvements over P13 including auto-partitioning (when obvious), fixed FDIMPLES bug, MBR updating and many many more enhancements. http://up.lod.bz/FDI I also ran an tested o

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI remaining issue

2016-02-23 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
dinsdag 23 februari 2016 19:19 > Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. > <mailto:freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI remaining issue > > I have a report of another issue regarding the USB stick installer. > >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI remaining issue

2016-02-23 Thread Maarten
’.” Maarten Working on: Bird OS 2017 1.0.0a (Western Schreech-Owl) Van: Jerome E. Shidel Jr. Verzonden: dinsdag 23 februari 2016 19:19 Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI remaining issue I have a report of another issue regarding the USB

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI remaining issue

2016-02-23 Thread Louis Santillan
fdisk can provide more info in this situation I think. I think it can actually map (print) all the BIOS drives and their BIOS port number. Running `fdisk /dump` [0] should do it. [0] http://help.fdos.org/en/hhstndrd/base/fdisk.htm On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI remaining issue

2016-02-23 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
I have a report of another issue regarding the USB stick installer. Basically, the user has 2 drives. one MS-DOS and one Other DOS formatted. The user boots the USB stick and all seems well through the install process. Reboots, and is faced with MS-DOS again. FreeDOS installed to D:. After, a

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI remaining issue

2016-02-23 Thread Maarten
I was thinking and we may can do 5 again…. We already have that, it works. We only need to copy it right? :) Maarten Van: Louis Santillan Verzonden: maandag 22 februari 2016 11:16 Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI remaining

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI remaining issue

2016-02-22 Thread Louis Santillan
7 1.0.0a (western screech-owl) >> - netraa...@gmail.com >> - birdos.2...@gmail.com >> "why? Because Freedos, that's why!" >> >> Some Nice projects: >> - Freedos >> - Night DOS Kernel >> >> >> >> Van: Jerome E. Shidel Jr.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI remaining issue

2016-02-20 Thread Louis Santillan
t; Working on: > Bird OS 2017 1.0.0a (western screech-owl) > - netraa...@gmail.com > - birdos.2...@gmail.com > "why? Because Freedos, that's why!" > > Some Nice projects: > - Freedos > - Night DOS Kernel > > > > Van: Jerome E. Shidel Jr. &g

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI remaining issue

2016-02-20 Thread Jerome Shidel
e Nice projects: > - Freedos > - Night DOS Kernel > > Van: Jerome E. Shidel Jr. > Verzonden: zaterdag 20 februari 2016 23:20 > Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. > Onderwerp: [Freedos-devel] FDI remaining issue > > Hello all, > > Preview

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI remaining issue

2016-02-20 Thread Maarten Vermeulen
Van: Jerome E. Shidel Jr. Verzonden: zaterdag 20 februari 2016 23:20 Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. Onderwerp: [Freedos-devel] FDI remaining issue Hello all, Preview 13 testing is still underway. So far, I have not received any reports of major bugs or serious

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI remaining issue

2016-02-20 Thread Maarten Vermeulen
nden: zondag 21 februari 2016 00:57 Aan: Jerome E. Shidel Jr. Onderwerp: RE: [Freedos-devel] FDI remaining issue Those 3&4 , prompting we can translate. That’s bo problem because it’s writing. For me the question remains after that: What is easier? 3&4 you shouldn’t worry about translati

[Freedos-devel] FDI remaining issue

2016-02-20 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Hello all, Preview 13 testing is still underway. So far, I have not received any reports of major bugs or serious hiccups. However, there is one serious issue that is yet to be resolved to my satisfaction. The MBR issue. When incompatible boot code already is present or if the USB image is driv

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI USB stick

2016-01-28 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Jan 28, 2016, at 7:15 PM, Louis Santillan wrote: > > I used the default, minimal install. No updates to autoexec.bat/config.sys. > That's a Jerome question. Ok. > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 12:52 AM, Louis Santillan wrote: >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI USB stick

2016-01-28 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Jan 28, 2016, at 1:52 AM, Louis Santillan wrote: > > Well...so I finished my testing late last night with the MSI Wind Netbook. I > ran into an issue the MBR was never updated by FDI 1.2. :/ Figured it out > eventually. You can read more about it here [0]. There's pictures and video.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI USB stick

2016-01-28 Thread Louis Santillan
I used the default, minimal install. No updates to autoexec.bat/config.sys. That's a Jerome question. On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 12:52 AM, Louis Santillan > wrote: > > > > Well...so I finished my testing late last night with the MSI Wind

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI USB stick

2016-01-28 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 12:52 AM, Louis Santillan wrote: > > Well...so I finished my testing late last night with the MSI Wind Netbook. > I ran into an issue the MBR was never updated by FDI 1.2. :/ Figured it out > eventually. You can read more about it here [0]. There's pictures and > vi

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI USB stick

2016-01-28 Thread Louis Santillan
Eric, In general, I agree with you. 1) Doing the (possibly) surprising thing would be wrong: if an MBR exists, overwriting it without mentioning it to the user would be wrong. However, changing the partitioning (as I did) and not having a booting system was also very surprising (and wrong IMO).

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI USB stick

2016-01-28 Thread Eric Auer
This is tricky - replacing the MBR when things already work would be dangerous! It can destroy boot menus and similar. I would say if there is NO MBR at all yet, it would be okay to automatically replace it. If there is some MBR, but the DOS partition is not yet marked as bootable, it would be a

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI USB stick

2016-01-27 Thread Louis Santillan
Well...so I finished my testing late last night with the MSI Wind Netbook. I ran into an issue the MBR was never updated by FDI 1.2. :/ Figured it out eventually. You can read more about it here [0]. There's pictures and video. Now, I need to produce an ISO now for the eMachines M6805 I have (n

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI USB stick

2016-01-26 Thread Louis Santillan
Is there an ISO yet of FDI/FD 1.2preX? Forgot that M6805 has a broken BIOS wrt to USB boot. On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 8:07 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Jerome Shidel wrote: > > Hello Eric and all, > > > > A little more follow up on the USB stick test. > > > > Th

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Steve Nickolas
On Tue, 26 Jan 2016, Rugxulo wrote: > The EXE2BIN in "BASE" is literally from OpenWatcom 1.5. And I have no > idea what you would do with it (or a linker) without some kind of > compiler. So I think that's a bad idea, even if MS used to do it. I've > said this before, but apparently nobody agrees

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI USB stick

2016-01-26 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Jerome Shidel wrote: > Hello Eric and all, > > A little more follow up on the USB stick test. > > The same user who was testing, per my suggestion ran it in advanced mode to > override > the automatic D: drive as the install target. He said the install ran

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 6:07 PM, Jerome Shidel wrote: > >> devel\fpc > > Only 2.6.4. 3.0.0 requires LFN or an extensive port. No, it doesn't need LFNs for the bare minimum cmdline compiler (no IDE). I'm not even sure the IDE needs LFN, only some rare third-party units (perhaps) that most peo

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > > Yes, if it replicated original MS-DOS functionality, it should be in Base. > This includes programs like APPEND, ASSIGN, ATTRIB, CHKDSK, … UNDELETE, > UNFORMAT, XCOPY, … etc. A lot of things nobody will ever use (e.g. APPEND, ASSIGN, RECOV

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 3:29 PM, Antony Gordon wrote: > > For Maarten and Mercury, look into DOS versions prior to 5.0, they included > DEBUG and (GW-)BASIC. DEBUG is sometimes useful but only rarely (at least outside of actually debugging separately-assembled programs). By itself, it's only

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI USB stick

2016-01-26 Thread Louis Santillan
I downloaded it last night. I have an MSI Wind U100 (Atom N2700, 2GB DDR2, 120GB SATA) [0] and an eMachines M6805 (AMD Athlon 64 3000+ DTR, 512MB PC2700, 4GB IDE) [1] I can test with when I get home tonight. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSI_Wind_Netbook [1] http://www.cnet.com/products/emac

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Mercury Thirteen
On 1/26/2016 7:07 PM, Jerome Shidel wrote: Yes, there are many more packages on his repo. But, I don't think Jim wants everything on his repo to be installed when the user selects ALL. His repo contains about 500mb of zip files. The current USB stick image that only contained packages for BASE

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jerome, if Mateusz' repository has "500 MB of packages", then that would make a good choice for ALL as far as I am concerned: It easily fits on a CD and you get plenty of DOS stuff :-) Also, it should fit on most USB sticks as well. Maybe you could make a list of the LARGEST packages in the

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Mercury Thirteen
On 1/26/2016 6:18 PM, Eric Auer wrote: ... Jerome, regarding the packages which are part of the ALL choice: The list seems suspiciously SHORT to me! We had a lot more to offer in older FreeDOS distros when people selected "ALL". Unless things got dropped from Mateusz' repository, I would keep in

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Jerome Shidel
> On Jan 26, 2016, at 7:00 PM, Mercury Thirteen wrote: > >> On 1/26/2016 6:18 PM, Eric Auer wrote: >> ... >> >> Jerome, regarding the packages which are part of the ALL choice: The >> list seems suspiciously SHORT to me! We had a lot more to offer in >> older FreeDOS distros when people sele

[Freedos-devel] FDI USB stick

2016-01-26 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hello Eric and all, A little more follow up on the USB stick test. The same user who was testing, per my suggestion ran it in advanced mode to override the automatic D: drive as the install target. He said the install ran flawlessly when he set it to C:\FDOS. He did say that he had an issue b

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hello all, > On Jan 26, 2016, at 6:18 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jerome, Jim et al, > > In view of available disk space on normal computers, I would like to > interpret Jim's view in a broad sense: If ANY version of MS DOS had > the feature and we have something to provide the same featu

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jerome, Jim et al, In view of available disk space on normal computers, I would like to interpret Jim's view in a broad sense: If ANY version of MS DOS had the feature and we have something to provide the same feature, then we should make it part of a BASE install. This includes DEBUG, EDIT, E

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Ralf Quint
On 1/26/2016 12:04 PM, Maarten Vermeulen wrote: What's the meaning of "+1"?! That is short for "I am one more person with the exact same opinion/point of view"... Ralf --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ---

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Steve Nickolas
On Tue, 26 Jan 2016, Louis Santillan wrote: > Since DOS 1.0, (IBM/ROM-)BASIC[0] & DEBUG[1] were the default programming > facilities. > > [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_BASIC > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debug_(command) I personally consider BASIC optional. Also, DEBUG was generall

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Steve Nickolas
On Tue, 26 Jan 2016, Jim Hall wrote: > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. > wrote: > >> Personally, I would like BASE to be more or less a minimum viable OS >> install and ALL to be a most likely >> wanted install. >> >> When I say minimum viable I mean: kernel, freecom, xcopy

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Antony Gordon
Hi, For Maarten and Mercury, look into DOS versions prior to 5.0, they included DEBUG and (GW-)BASIC. That would complete the DOS experience... well that and some sample BASIC programs like GORILLA.BAS and having LINK.EXE along with EXE2BIN. -T On Tue, Jan 26, 2016, 4:06 PM Jerome E. Shidel Jr.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
At present, BASE is fairly close to the 1.1 BASE. Of course, it no longer includes XMGR and UIDE. this is the current ALL packages that are installed. Pull rdisk? Anything else? https://github.com/shidel/FDI/blob/master/SETTINGS/PKG_BASE.LST Please note, that FDI’s floppy boot image needs a CD/D

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Jim Hall
> > On 1/26/2016 2:54 PM, Maarten Vermeulen wrote: > > Hi, > > I should leave BWBASIC right where it is. As it's for programming and > DEVELOPING. As it's devloper stuff I would leave it in "devel". It makes no > sense to put a devloping part from developing to the basic system part. > Leave it wit

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Maarten Vermeulen
Oh yes! Of course... :/ -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: "Mercury Thirteen" Verzonden: ‎26-‎1-‎2016 21:31 Aan: "Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers." Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2 It's a way of saying I agree with what y

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Mercury Thirteen
en: ‎26-‎1-‎2016 21:03 Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. <mailto:freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2 +1 On 1/26/2016 2:54 PM, Maarten Vermeulen wrote: Hi, I should leave BWBASIC right where it is. As it's for

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Maarten Vermeulen
Okay but do you mean you want it back in 'base' or is this just info? -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: "Louis Santillan" Verzonden: ‎26-‎1-‎2016 21:02 Aan: "Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers." Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and Fr

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Maarten Vermeulen
What's the meaning of "+1"?! -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: "Mercury Thirteen" Verzonden: ‎26-‎1-‎2016 21:03 Aan: "Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers." Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2 +1 On 1/26/2016 2:

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Mercury Thirteen
+1 On 1/26/2016 2:54 PM, Maarten Vermeulen wrote: Hi, I should leave BWBASIC right where it is. As it's for programming and DEVELOPING. As it's devloper stuff I would leave it in "devel". It makes no sense to put a devloping part from developing to the basic system part. Leave it with his br

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Louis Santillan
- > Van: Jim Hall > Verzonden: ‎26-‎1-‎2016 20:49 > Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. > > Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2 > > > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: > >> On 1/22/

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Maarten Vermeulen
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: "Jim Hall" Verzonden: ‎26-‎1-‎2016 20:49 Aan: "Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers." Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2 On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: On 1/22/2016 3:36 PM

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Jim Hall
On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: > On 1/22/2016 3:36 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > Regarding BWBASIC, current FreeBASIC is extremely cool while BWBASIC > was small but > > somewhat sketchy, I would agree to drop BWBASIC from the distro. > > > > > Sorry, but you are here comparing

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Jim Hall
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 5:45 AM, Tom Ehlert wrote: > > > On 26/01/2016 12:10, Antony Gordon wrote: > >> Things would be so much simpler if FreeDOS emulated the Microsoft and > >> IBM (and Caldera, Digital Research) counterparts and installed the base > >> operating system. > > > I second that. Bu

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Jim Hall
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > Hi Tom, Maarten, Jerome and Rugxulo, > > >> I emailed with Jim the other day. He is extremely busy at present. > > > fine. we should look for a new boss with more time to care. > > Not THAT, permanently, busy - Jim is busy at the MOMENT with s

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Jim Hall
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > Personally, I would like BASE to be more or less a minimum viable OS > install and ALL to be a most likely > wanted install. > > When I say minimum viable I mean: kernel, freecom, xcopy, deltree, move > and a few other more or less >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Personally, I would like BASE to be more or less a minimum viable OS install and ALL to be a most likely wanted install. When I say minimum viable I mean: kernel, freecom, xcopy, deltree, move and a few other more or less absolutes. However, by my understanding of what Jim wants. BASE is sup

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI, updated

2016-01-26 Thread Jerome Shidel
Ah, sorry. Didn't realize it was in there. Will do. Sent from my iPhone, ignore bad sentence structures, grammatical errors and incorrect spell-corrected words. > On Jan 26, 2016, at 3:53 AM, Louis Santillan wrote: > > I'd like to make a minor suggestion here. > > When packaging up USB image

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Antony Gordon
Hi, Exactly. If you want networking, install it afterwards. The same for sound, the myriad of development choices and memory managers. Despite wanting to emulate DOS, it seems FreeDOS more closely emulates a Linux distribution from the verbose initial boot to the "package" selection. On Tue, Jan

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Tom Ehlert
> On 26/01/2016 12:10, Antony Gordon wrote: >> Things would be so much simpler if FreeDOS emulated the Microsoft and >> IBM (and Caldera, Digital Research) counterparts and installed the base >> operating system. > I second that. But it would seem we are isolated in this opinion, since > I see al

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Mateusz Viste
On 26/01/2016 12:10, Antony Gordon wrote: > Things would be so much simpler if FreeDOS emulated the Microsoft and > IBM (and Caldera, Digital Research) counterparts and installed the base > operating system. I second that. But it would seem we are isolated in this opinion, since I see all the tim

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Antony Gordon
Things would be so much simpler if FreeDOS emulated the Microsoft and IBM (and Caldera, Digital Research) counterparts and installed the base operating system. All these extra drivers for this, a compiler for that can just be on the CD and can be installed later. Jerome, if you could find a copy

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI, updated

2016-01-26 Thread Louis Santillan
I'd like to make a minor suggestion here. When packaging up USB image to a zip file, leave off directory path to the image. Thanks, On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > I forgot something in the old (10 minute ago release). > So, i just put up another FDI update. >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI USB stick

2016-01-24 Thread Maarten Vermeulen
the first drive/partition. Is this right??? My explanation is a bit bad... Maarten -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: "Jerome Shidel" Verzonden: ‎25-‎1-‎2016 00:58 Aan: "Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers." Onderwerp: [Freedos-devel] FDI USB stick

[Freedos-devel] FDI USB stick

2016-01-24 Thread Jerome Shidel
Well, I just got some feedback from a Facebook user who really really wants the USB stick installer and tried that image I made. He had 4 problems, but was still happy it mostly worked. 1) he had to manually start setup.bat. Which prompted for the "full shell command line" humm... 2) detecte

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-23 Thread Ralf Quint
On 1/23/2016 3:45 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > Hi again, quick reply, > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Rugxulo wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: >>> On 1/22/2016 3:36 PM, Eric Auer wrote: >>> BWBasic is an interpreter, which runs very well on FreeDOS, despite some >>> shor

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-23 Thread Rugxulo
(dang it, Gmail keyboard shortcuts, accidentally sent too soon!) On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 5:45 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Rugxulo wrote: >> >> On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: >>> On 1/22/2016 3:36 PM, Eric Auer wrote: >> >>> BWBasic is an interpr

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-23 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again, quick reply, On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: >> On 1/22/2016 3:36 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > >> BWBasic is an interpreter, which runs very well on FreeDOS, despite some >> shortcomings, hence should be very well kept w

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-23 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: > On 1/22/2016 3:36 PM, Eric Auer wrote: >> >> Regarding BWBASIC, current FreeBASIC is extremely cool while BWBASIC was >> small but >> somewhat sketchy, I would agree to drop BWBASIC from the distro. >> > Sorry, but you are here comparin

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-23 Thread Ralf Quint
On 1/22/2016 3:36 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > Regarding BWBASIC, current FreeBASIC is extremely cool while BWBASIC was > small but > somewhat sketchy, I would agree to drop BWBASIC from the distro. > > Sorry, but you are here comparing apples and oranges. FreeBASIC is a compiler, which doesn't run pr

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-23 Thread Mercury Thirteen
On 1/22/2016 4:24 PM, Tom Ehlert wrote: I emailed with Jim the other day. He is extremely busy at present. fine. we should look for a new boss with more time to care. Now, if Jim were to willingly appoints someone else to take his place, that's a different story entirely, but I can't imagine

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-23 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! >> Well maybe it would also be nice to have some BASH, such >> as the DJGPP one - both shell and script language... :-) > Nah. Their Bash is ancient (2.05b), not well-supported by anyone > anymore. Most DJGPP stuff mandatorily has to be cross-compiled > anyways, for various reasons. Still n

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-23 Thread Steve Nickolas
On Sat, 23 Jan 2016, Louis Santillan wrote: > So there won't be a 16-bit QBASIC/GW-BASIC/BASICA replacement? I think > that is important to have. Even if it is buggy. I wouldn't call Bywater a GWBASIC replacment, let alone a QBASIC replacement. -uso. -

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-23 Thread Louis Santillan
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > > Hi Rugxulo et al, > > > > indeed xgrep and grep both have their uses... Regarding BWBASIC, > > current FreeBASIC is extremely cool while BWBASIC was small but > > somewhat sketchy,

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-22 Thread Maarten Vermeulen
removing/adding compilers? Maarten -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: "Rugxulo" Verzonden: ‎23-‎1-‎2016 00:59 Aan: "Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers." Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2 Hi, On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Eric Auer wrot

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-22 Thread Maarten Vermeulen
Haha yes, I did get that link several times... But still I do not agree. On the other hand FDI was fun to do. Maarten -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: "Rugxulo" Verzonden: ‎23-‎1-‎2016 00:29 Aan: "Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers." Onderwerp

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-22 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 7:42 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > whether to repackage FPC using LZMA depends on whether > it would unpack with the same hardware requirements that > FPC has anyway and whether it really makes a difference. > I could imagine that other files apart from the EXE take > much

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-22 Thread Steve Nickolas
On Sat, 23 Jan 2016, Eric Auer wrote: > What are the ins and outs of Bruce C? Any pointers to an > earlier DOS thread about it? Have not seen it in the LSM > software list on freedos.org as far as I remember? I think it's a simple, pre-ANSI, small-model only compiler? > Actually I did mean PC DO

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-22 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Rugxulo, whether to repackage FPC using LZMA depends on whether it would unpack with the same hardware requirements that FPC has anyway and whether it really makes a difference. I could imagine that other files apart from the EXE take much of the space in FPC installations... What are the ins

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-22 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > Hi Rugxulo et al, > > indeed xgrep and grep both have their uses... Regarding BWBASIC, > current FreeBASIC is extremely cool while BWBASIC was small but > somewhat sketchy, I would agree to drop BWBASIC from the distro. Literally, I'm not

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-22 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Rugxulo et al, indeed xgrep and grep both have their uses... Regarding BWBASIC, current FreeBASIC is extremely cool while BWBASIC was small but somewhat sketchy, I would agree to drop BWBASIC from the distro. Note that the modern compilers (OpenWatcom, FPC (Pascal), Free- BASIC, DJGPP and so

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-22 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Maarten Vermeulen wrote: > > as you may noticed I do not agree with the MS-DOS rules. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_room_design -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility int

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-22 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > > On Jan 22, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > "util\grep" and "util\xgrep" (what's the difference?? 32-bit DJGPP > version??) > > Someone mentions, why not xgrep too. Pulled. Well, neither is 100% compatible with each other.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-22 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Tom, Maarten, Jerome and Rugxulo, >> I emailed with Jim the other day. He is extremely busy at present. > fine. we should look for a new boss with more time to care. Not THAT, permanently, busy - Jim is busy at the MOMENT with some current news :-) Regarding Maarten's mail: No need for compl

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-22 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Jan 22, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > Hi, > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. > wrote: >> >> I see no reason why a beta release is not ready in the next >> few days-weeks. So, I highly recommend taking a look at the >> package list files and making any reque

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-22 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Jan 22, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > Hi, > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. > wrote: >> >> I see no reason why a beta release is not ready in the next >> few days-weeks. So, I highly recommend taking a look at the >> package list files and making any reque

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-22 Thread Maarten Vermeulen
Hi, I don't think Jim would be pleased to hear that. But I am a volunteer! :) I dont know if that's a joke... Why do I say this? I can give 2 reasons one is serious the other isnt. the serious reason: Because I agree. the non-serious reason: Because FreeDOS that's why! probably this mail wi

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-22 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > > I see no reason why a beta release is not ready in the next > few days-weeks. So, I highly recommend taking a look at the > package list files and making any requests you may have for > additions or removals. > > https://github.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-22 Thread Tom Ehlert
> I emailed with Jim the other day. He is extremely busy at present. fine. we should look for a new boss with more time to care. > what package for drivers? maybe ask Jim Tom -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibi

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-22 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > > On Jan 22, 2016, at 3:28 PM, Tom Ehlert wrote: > > regarding ALL: > > ping, wget and possibly some more belong to the same package as mtcp, Do you mean same group, e.g. "NET"? Because mTCP is explicitly 8086-friendly while (32

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-22 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Hello Tom, > On Jan 22, 2016, at 3:28 PM, Tom Ehlert wrote: > > Hallo Herr Jerome E. Shidel Jr., > > am 22. Januar 2016 um 20:33 schrieben Sie: > >> I emailed with Jim the other day. He is extremely busy at present. >> However, he stated that he wished to get FreeDOS 1.2 out the >> door very

[Freedos-devel] FDI, updated

2016-01-22 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
I forgot something in the old (10 minute ago release). So, i just put up another FDI update. http://up.lod.bz/FDI/latest Also, if someone wants to see if the USB stick image thingy works. (I have no way to boot it at present) http://up.lod.bz/FDI-USB.zip ---

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-22 Thread Tom Ehlert
Hallo Herr Jerome E. Shidel Jr., am 22. Januar 2016 um 20:33 schrieben Sie: > I emailed with Jim the other day. He is extremely busy at present. > However, he stated that he wished to get FreeDOS 1.2 out the > door very soon. He did mention some reasons for getting it > released. But, I’m not g

[Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-22 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
I emailed with Jim the other day. He is extremely busy at present. However, he stated that he wished to get FreeDOS 1.2 out the door very soon. He did mention some reasons for getting it released. But, I’m not going to go into them. I see no reason why a beta release is not ready in the next fe

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI

2016-01-15 Thread Maarten Vermeulen
richt- Van: "Jerome E. Shidel Jr." Verzonden: ‎15-‎1-‎2016 22:59 Aan: "Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers." Onderwerp: [Freedos-devel] FDI I did a little tweaking and stuff to FDI. So, I just released latest image. Mostly, this was adding the abil

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Translations

2016-01-15 Thread Maarten Vermeulen
n in dutch) My goal with those adjustments (see above) is to make clear what to remove and what to exit. :) Maarten -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: "Jerome E. Shidel Jr." Verzonden: ‎15-‎1-‎2016 00:14 Aan: "Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers."

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Translations

2016-01-15 Thread Paul Dufresne
Translating it in french is easy: "Enlevez le média d'installation puis pressez une touche pour redémarrer le système, sinon tapez CTRL-C pour sortir." What's hard is edit the translation file and retest it. ;) -- Site24x7

[Freedos-devel] FDI

2016-01-15 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
I did a little tweaking and stuff to FDI. So, I just released latest image. Mostly, this was adding the ability to remove the install media before doing the reboot. Also, if FDINST is installed, an appropriate config file for it is also now included. (Same as the OS install: Binaries only or wi

[Freedos-devel] FDI Translations

2016-01-14 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Hello again, I just made some changes to V8Power Tools so the user can remove the install media before FDI does a system reboot. So, I would like to get the following translated into all the appropriate languages. (ES, EO, FR, NL & DE) Once again, rewording is fine. Remove the installation med

[Freedos-devel] FDI updated.

2015-12-25 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Thanks to Maarten, I found out that there was a compatibility issue in VirtualBox with the 186+ High Precision Interrupt Timer used by the V8Power Tool vdelay utility. The delay is used to prevent messages from flicker on/off the screen and having a user go “what did that say?” Basically, us

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Language Translations

2015-12-24 Thread Mercury Thirteen
thing. Maarten Van: Tom Ehlert <mailto:t...@drivesnapshot.de> Verzonden: ‎24-‎12-‎2015 21:39 Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. <mailto:freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Language Translations >> I was goin

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