Doug,
Let me just say that a think your questions is basically right, but perhaps
a tad broad. I agree that philosophers are what philosophers do, but only
when they are acting as philosophers. So a philosopher might tell us how to
run the economy or what the nature of the universe is, but
All,
I have a creepy feeling some of my posts aren't getting through.
For instance, did anybody ever tell me what OWEN things philosophers do?
Including Owen? If so, could somebody resend the message, cause I never
found out.
Also, I keep writing messages in which I argue that
Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The Grand Design, Philosophy is Dead, and Hubris
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Nicholas Thompson
nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote:
Owen,
Please. I am confused. What is it that you think philosophers do?
Nick
Well, to be frank, I don't
From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf
Of Nicholas Thompson
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:30 PM
To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group'
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The Grand Design, Philosophy is Dead, and Hubris
All,
I have a creepy feeling
Isn't that like saying that mathematics is dead because [some]
mathematicians haven't kept up with modern . um. astrophysics?
N
From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf
Of Owen Densmore
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 1:02 PM
To: Complexity Coffee Group
Not clear why this is a philosophical implication. Would an empirical
result EVER answer a mathematical question?
Nick
-Original Message-
From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf
Of Bruce Sherwood
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 8:20 PM
To: The
Eric,
Based on my own experience with my own expertise, I offer the following
understanding of what has happened on the list:
(1) There is an elementary explanation of this phenomenon.
(2)The speakers are enormously well-educated individuals who once knew that
explanation.
Thanks, Owen
AS for the discussion with Doug and Peter, I am, I guess, an incurable
amateur. I think of the world as arrayed in layers [of abstraction]; for
me, there always is [should be?-note the use of modal language!] a level of
abstraction at which it is appropriate for somebody to
Ok. I got it. You guys don't want to talk about this subject, you don't
want ME to talk about it, and nobody else really wants to talk about it.
So, I declare this thread closed. Please don't post any more responses to
this thread. You want to make off color remarks, find you own damn thread.
Dear Peter,
There are three ways to learn something: read, fiddle with things, and talk to
somebody. I think the best learning take place if one is doing all three at
the same time.
Nick
From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of
Well, a couple of points.
First, It says something kind of funny about physics . that it will never
explain anything that any of us are curious about.
Second, it seems to say that there is no educational advantage to . nothing
to be learned from . trying to connect principle to
and/or explain the physics of vortex mechanics. English and hand
waving and/or philosophy shudder are not rich enough communications media
to carry that much information.
--Doug
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Nicholas Thompson
nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote:
Well, a couple of points
Actually, Steve, despite spending 40 years doing what it was I did, I never
felt an expert. One of my criteria for expertise, which I felt I never met,
was the capacity to explain a difficult subject to an attentive,
well-educated lay person. And the emperor's new clothes has always been one
of
, or perhaps, even, is entitled to a full
understanding of complex scientific systems without having provided oneself
with a sufficiently rich, specialized scientific background?
--Doug
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Nicholas Thompson
nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote:
Ok. What follows from
I was blown away by this site which asserts that 20 archeologists are
working with fire suppression teams in the Jemez so that historic and
cultural sites are not damaged as the fire being fought.
http://www.inciweb.org/incident/article/2385/12170/
Impressive,
N
Steve S.,
You and I are the only two participants in that discussion to have presented
any empirical evidence. In the spirit of experimental collegiality, would
you try my experiment, and report back to me. Fill a basin with water Set
it to spinning in a concerted way. Be careful not to
Lee,
Yep! There is that little grid in the mouth of the drain and the little
tornado thingy generally forms on the hole at the center of that grid.
Doesn't explain why the water leaving the drain starts to slow down when the
natural vortex forms, by comparison with the circumstance in which I
But peter. I actually did an experiment. So, your criticism has to shift from
calling me an air head to calling my experiment dumb … and,, presumably, having
reasons why it’s dumb.
N
From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of
/11 8:02 AM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
Thanks, Eric, for taking the question seriously. I will study your answer
with care.
Ask a simple question, and waddya get?
Another day older and deeper in (conceptual) debt!
Eric says:
All these
flow problems that we talk about are not described
Thanks, Eric, for taking the question seriously. I will study your answer
with care.
All the best,
Nick
-Original Message-
From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf
Of Eric Smith
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 8:35 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied
Eric, Lee,
I have never been a thread-fascist before, but I am glad that this is a new
thread because, on the other one, I actually reported an real-life experiment
and got results that disconfirmed the theory. Those gallons of water I spilled
down the sink were NOT in my mind.
If I
Dear Peter,
There HAS to be SOME lesson for us handwavers.
If one charts the pressure-relative rate of flow as one allows and disturbs the
formation of sink-vortices, does one see increases and decreases? Ok, so let
me try and go empirical on you.
I put a measured amount of
In an offline conversation about my open letter, somebody asked me what
symmetry breaking was; Here was my answer.
Symmetry breaking is Guerin/Kaufman talk. Something like this: Just before
Benard cells form, the fluid is symmetrical horizontally (Kaufman/Guerin
talk for uniform), although
Dear Steve Guerin,
I was staring at the water swirling down the drain this evening and I
thought of you (};-]). It has been a very long time since we have had any
kind of conversation on this list about self-organizing systems. I was
reflecting on the vigor with which the water was rushing
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 9:03 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] An Open Letter to Steve Guerin
And please, couch your answer in the most general of terms.
:)
-Doug
On Jun 28, 2011 6:59 PM, Nicholas Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.net
wrote
I am not happy to have my thread hijacked and spoofed. So, at the risk of
my seeming to be a bad sport, could we just pick it up from here? I think
you guys are right on the edge of troll-dom here. My worst fear is that
because I dont really know what spoofing is, I will inadvertently send
our respective lenses
You have your Apollonians and your Dionysians; Apollonians are your
planters, your gardeners, your planners. They can defer pleasure because,
for them, the future seems assured. Dionysians are your impulsive types:
they grab pleasure and excitement now because the future
, and morphing into the unknown.
Dionysians will tolerate change more easily and see it as positive,
Apollonians will tolerate routine more easily and see it as positive.
Victoria
On Jun 21, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
our respective lenses
You have your Apollonians and your Dionysians
Thread HiJacking Alert:
What about the world in which you can wake up in the morning and discover that
your credit company has been hacked? A million Citibank accounts were
compromised yesterday. Is this relevant to the cloud/ground discussion, or
shall I start my own thread on whether
Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Quote of the week
Nick: Next you are in town, lets read the original Shannon paper together.
Alas, it is a bit long, but I'm told its a Good Thing To Do.
-- Owen
On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:44 AM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
Grant
Grant,
This seems backwards to me, but I got properly thrashed for my last few
postings so I am putting my hat over the wall very carefully here.
I thought..i thought .. the information in a message was the number of bits
by which the arrival of the message decreased the uncertainty of
managing the list at
friam-ow...@redfish.com
When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
than Re: Contents of Friam digest...
Today's Topics:
1. Re: Financial Scam (Nicholas Thompson)
2. Re: PC emulator written in JavaScript (Owen Densmore)
3. Re: PC emulator
, passwords and other financial data
etc.
Sarbajit
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Nicholas Thompson
nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote:
Really?
A reformed cyber criminal?
Say more!
N
PS, I have to say, as a psychologist, I am fascinated by the m.o. Does it
really work to get
Sorry, everybody: When I made my comment about WordPress being nerdy, I was
confused.
N
From: David Collins [mailto:collida...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 7:31 PM
To: disc...@sfcomplex.org
Subject: Re: [sfx: Discuss] Re: [FRIAM] blog recomendations?
It's worth noting that
me to keep the check around
for possible criminal investigation purposes, as well as to keep an
eye out on my cell phone in case they have any questions.
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Nicholas Thompson
nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote:
Gillian,
I would start by calling the Bursar
: [FRIAM] blog recomendations?
nerdy heart - is that good or bad?
Sent from my iPhone
On 19/05/2011, at 2:42 PM, Nicholas Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.net
wrote:
My slight experience with WordPress made me feel that it had a nerdy
heart.
Don't be ashamed to try something that costs a little
Gillian,
I would start by calling the Bursar at Central Christian College. That
person should be straightforward, down-to-earth, and should have an
explanation for this odd procedure. It doesn't sound right to me, I have to
say.
What does test out Western Union mean?
Let us know how it
My slight experience with WordPress made me feel that it had a nerdy heart.
Dont be ashamed to try something that costs a little and doesnt have the
notion that learning obscure finger-mantras is good for your soul.
But I probably don't know what I am talking about.
Nick
-Original
Eric,
I would not advise anyone to start a blog who didn’t have a genuine case of
logorrhea. It’s like, gee, wouldn’t it be nice to have a daily column in the
newspaper. Yeah, for about a week, but then…..? It’s like having to cook
dinner EVERY night.
I have logorrhea, but it’s a
Carl Tollander wrote:
That is very nearly a tautology.
NST replies:
You mean:
All thoughts are morbid
This is a thought
This thought is morbid?
FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's
FWIW, a few years ago, my university library gutted its down floor, put in a
coffee bar and IT stuff, and called itself the “academic commons.” Seems like
a fad in Library Land.
Nick
From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of
ERIC P. CHARLES
Wouldn't that be the definition of non evolution. As in, horshoe crabs have
not evolved since the . carboniferous (or whatever)
-Original Message-
From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf
Of Owen Densmore
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 10:01 AM
To:
Well, then I read you wrong. Sorry. N
From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf
Of Russ Abbott
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:14 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] What evolves?
Lots to respond to. First of
Russ,
Your question, I now see, is the same one that has motivated much of my
career. See natural designs website below. It would be nice to come up
with a definition of natural design that was more apriori (!?) than
whatever nature selects.
Nick
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus
Bruce,
Suddenly can't think what the evidence would be for most mutations are
lethal. Given the tremendous capacity of the developmental system to
absorb variation and produce a common result, how would we know. The best
we could know is that most visible mutations are lethal.
This is a
Steve:
This is sort of fun: Which is more advanced; a horse's hoof or a human
hand.?
Answer: the hoof is way more advanced. (Actually I asked the question
wrong, it should have been horses forearm)
Why? Because the word advanced means just altered from the ancestral
structure
http://www.f5tornadovideos.com/Part-2-Twc-Vortex2-S-First-Tornado-6-5-Video-
Id-u6WBFIJkLpA.html
This a more technical video with excellent continuity. There is a comic
aspect to this: It becomes clear as the video develops, Dr. Forbes is
clearly somewhere safe and warm and dry. We'll
http://kkd.ou.edu/METR4433_Spring_2011/DaviesJonesEtal2001.pdf
This link courtesy of this wondrous information-gathering institution we
call FRIAM. This is a summary of What Was Known about tornados, as of about
yr 2000. I can't claim to have read every word at this point, but it seems
very
Russ,
I hope has been clear to everybody from the start that I am not a proper
biologist. My degree is in psychology and my postdoctoral year was as an
ethologist. I will leave it to Eric to tell you the same thing about
himself.
If you ask me on my best days, I will say that what
Dear Victoria,
The word evolution has a history before biologists made off with it, but I
can't speak to those uses. I think it first came into use in biology to
refer to development and referred to the unfolding of a flower. The one
use I cannot tolerate gracefully is to refer to whatever
Peter,
Thanks for this interesting response. It would seem to be the last word on
this subject, for a time. But we’ll see.
I wonder if there is any chance you would make an electronic copy of your
article available to the list?
No reason for us all to continue to live in
How does the momentum get carried down to the ground so coherently?
N
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
http://www.cusf.org http://www.cusf.org/
Sorry about the commercial at the beginning. There's a skip button.
Again, imagine you had a very strong suction device. Could you produce
something like this in smaller scale? Why would it be narrower at the bottom
than the top?
n
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of
RussG,
A message such as you wrote is ambiguous because it is a demand TO the list
to be taken OFF the list. If you simply wanted to be taken OFF the list,
the instructions for doing that are at the bottom of every post from the
list. So, it sounds like you want us to talk about the decline of
...
Today's Topics:
1. How do these things WORK? (Nicholas Thompson)
2. notice the multiple vortices (Nicholas Thompson)
3. Re: off topic., but still (Mohammed El-Beltagy)
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Here is one that has a steady picture over a relatively long period of time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HX_L-FDLCc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HX_L-FDLCcfeature=relmfu feature=relmfu
The best footage on this one is in the second half. Turn the sound down if
the frenetic
/
!!!
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Nicholas Thompson
nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote:
I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in
the death of one, not even an enemy.
Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night
already devoid of stars
I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in
the death of one, not even an enemy.
Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night
already devoid of stars.
~ Martin Luther King
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of
These images are probably eye-candy to some degree, but still mindblowing.
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/541002main_severe_weather_28apr11_0652_ut
c_animated.gif
Nick
FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
Meets Fridays
This the production that The entire Friday meeting of FRIAM was invited to
audition for, and none of us had the courage. The part was the judge. Nick
sweeny announcement.odt
Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text
FRIAM
Dear all,
Last fall, some of you encouraged me to try and organize a litry thing (12
best books, or something of the sort) for our seminar series. I couldnt
pull it off ,but, for the summer, St Johns is offering seminars that might
fill the bill. Please See,
don't know by now, Dryden and
Plutarch ain't gonna teach me. (He happens to be an example of a very good
life well-lived, so I understood his annoyance at this lost opportunity for
another approach.)
On Apr 19, 2011, at 12:26 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
Dear all,
Last fall, some of you
Thanks, Roger. Well distilled. As to your main question, I think it's a
control system problem. Somehow the thermostat (the board room) needs to be
made sensitive to the temperature (the pollution.) Friam would seem to be
really well poised to think about this issue. But I think we need a
Wow! So when a majority of white southerners showed up in their Sunday
finest to watch the weekly lynchings, that was the right thing?
I guess you mean right in some other sense.
N
-Original Message-
From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf
Of
Vlad,
Not sure why Peggy's comment deserved such a trolllish response.
I will join in her view that if we are to base our economy on competition,
then the practice of exporting externalities to the neighborhoods and
nations of the powerless has to stop. We have to work to find the true
Steve, There is a basic cybernetic solution. Pump the output of the
smokestacks into the mill-owner's aircirculation system. Internalize all
externalities. Either the rich people stop polluting or they die. Either
way, the problem of pollution is solved. Also the guilt problem. Oh, and I
do
, Nicholas Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote:
Dear anybody,
I am reviewing a book by a psychologist in which the author makes a
distinction between constraints and causes. Now perhaps I am over
thinking
this, but this distinction seems to parallel one made by Feynman in
his famous
Really great article , Jochen. Wish we had had it for our evo-devo seminar!
Thanks,
Nick
From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of
ERIC P. CHARLES
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 8:03 PM
To: Jochen Fromm
Cc: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity
Use the handles on the vertical bars down the middle of images to move the
before|after line back and forth. What we are seeing here looks like New
Orleans a hundred times over.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/03/13/world/asia/satellite-photos-ja
Jochen,
Thanks for this. Your message led me to a whole cascade of wikis on
subjects I am supposed to know something about.
Note the use of modal language.
Nick
-Original Message-
From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf
Of Jochen Fromm
Sent:
Interesting, Russ. Thanks for bringing this to our attention.
The legislature is in town these days¸ and given the appalling inefficiency
of its decision making processes, it would seem that the fish are better at
collective decision making than we are.
Nick
From:
Oh wait a minute. I was editing to remove the echo with the next sentence.
So, I guess it's To me the New Realism concedes our right to a point of
view while DEMANDING THAT WE share it. Each of us is obligated to give
clear instructions for how to stand where we are standing, so that
.), A New Look at
New Realism: E. B. Holt Reconsidered, Transactions Publishers (2011)
http://www.amazon.com/New-Look-Realism-Psychology-Philosophy/dp/1412842425
Right ?
-J.
- Original Message -
From: Nicholas Thompson
To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group'
Sent: Sunday
Jochen,
I CRINGE when anybody calls me an expert, but I have to admit that in my last
job, I served as an evolutionary psychologist. Before that, I was a
comparative psychologist, ethologist, and sociobiologists, more or less in that
order. Unfortunately, any of these roles would
Dear all,
Frank and I will be a bit late tomorrow. If you arrive and don't see
anybody else, have faith: others are coming. See if you can sneak those two
tables together.
Nick
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
about other things is the point where self-awareness
begins.
To know the self means to know where the self ends, and where the rest of
the world begins.
-J.
- Original Message -
From: Nicholas Thompson
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011
Grant,
The article was collected in an edited volume by Ashby and is available on
Google Scholar. I am rushing now, but if you don't find it easily, please
get back to me and I will find it for you.
Nick
From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf
At what point in the complexity of a robot (or any other control system)
does it begin to seem useful to parse input into information about the
system itself and information about other things?
Nick
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
for your Roboteers out there
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On 5 Feb 2011 at 12:29, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
At what point in the complexity of a robot (or any other control
system) does it begin
-bielefeld.de k...@uni-bielefeld.de) concerning
your interest in child-care services by the end of May. The detailed
organization will be planned according to the needs.
Yukie Nagai
Publicity Chair of ICDL-EpiRob2011
2011/2/5 Nicholas Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.net
At what point
Message: 2
From: National Science Foundation Update nsf-upd...@nsf.gov
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 14:47:36 -0600 (CST)
Subject: The Most Genes in an Animal? Tiny Crustacean Holds the Record
The Most Genes in an Animal? Tiny Crustacean Holds the Record
an
effect on that emergence?
Ray Parks
From: Nicholas Thompson [mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 08:33 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group friam@redfish.com
Subject: [FRIAM] Daphnia's jeans
Message: 2
From: National Science Foundation
Everybody,
I hope this isn't inappropriate, but I love chess.com and wish it the best
and I imagine that this would be a really, really good job for somebody on
FRIAM, which I also love.
So I guess I am in the business of match-making.
See below:
Chess.com: Senior Web Developer
Rich,
I am one of those list members who gets grumpy when somebody posts something
without making it clear why s/he cares about the material or, even better,
why I should care about it. Can you give us a couple of pointers.
Nick
-Original Message-
From: friam-boun...@redfish.com
Oh gosh! Do we HAVE credibility? With whom? What a wonderful thought!
N
From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf
Of Douglas Roberts
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 12:49 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM]
Steve,
I hear you edging out onto the slippery slope of censorship, here. Even if
the cold fusion thing is completely unfounded, it has more interest as a
cultural phenomenon than many of the topics in good standing on Friam.
Don't go there, Steve. Don't listen to him, Rich.
Nick
Thanks, Rich. Nick
-Original Message-
From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf
Of Rich Murray
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 10:24 PM
To: vorte...@eskimo.com; michael barron; lit...@earthtech.org;
mari...@earthtech.org; puth...@earthtech.org
Subject:
Doug
Buy nickel, sell copper.
http://www.metalprices.com/
Nick
From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf
Of Douglas Roberts
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:34 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: [FRIAM]
Rich,
Your faith in progress brings tears to my eyes. I don't think the world is
one ounce better than it was when I was a kid. It is DIFFERENT, but we have
given up at least as much as we have gained. Nor do I expect it to be any
better in a hundred years. Thus, the sole rational defense of
Hi, everybody,
Once again, we are meeting at St. Johns this week. We have come out of the
Holiday Tunnel. WE-OO!
While I have your attention, allow me to tell you that I am organizing
another in the series of Coffee House Seminars in which we explore findings
and texts
Tory,
Any way to get a larger, readable version of the dialects map? Fascinating.
Nick
From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf
Of Victoria Hughes
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 8:17 AM
To: disc...@sfcomplex.org; The Friday Morning Applied
=en_usos_ver=6.1.0.0
friam.org
Nick:
Go to the map's home page, then click on the map in the upper left and drill
down.
Tkx, Tory.
-tom
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Nicholas Thompson
nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote:
Tory,
Any way to get a larger, readable version of the dialects map
.
-- Owen
On Jan 2, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
Off topic:
The warning only appears only on FRIAM messages and it appears on all of
them.
Is there anything about FRIAM that the list-owner should be attending to?
N
-Original Message-
From: friam-boun
not sure that would rase the warning you see.
-- Owen
On Jan 2, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
Off topic:
The warning only appears only on FRIAM messages and it appears on all of
them.
Is there anything about FRIAM that the list-owner should be attending to?
N
pwned. That is, despite the
paranoia which we've instilled in Nick, he still managed to install a trojan
that has hijacked the DNS services on his machine to redirect him to more
bad sites.
-- rec --
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Nicholas Thompson
nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote:
Isn't
Off topic:
The warning only appears only on FRIAM messages and it appears on all of
them.
Is there anything about FRIAM that the list-owner should be attending to?
N
-Original Message-
From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf
Of Owen Densmore
Hi, kim. I sent a similar note out to the friam list yesterday; no
response yet.
The problem is WHERE. DS will probably be too crowded and noisy, but I
would do it as a last resort.
Or can somebody help us break new ground?
N
From: Kim Sorvig
Kim, and others,
Well there has not been a din of responses to our probes about tomorrow's
FRIAM meeting nor a plethora of suggestions about where we might meet.
Frank and I are available and Kim, if you are in, that's enough for me, and
then others could join if they felt like it. I
Unless, the weather is too awful.
Frank and I will get there a little early to find us a spot.
Nick
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
http://www.cusf.org
St. Johns will be closed as tight as a drum. Any new venues to try out?
Nick
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
http://www.cusf.org http://www.cusf.org/
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