Re: [FRIAM] loopiness (again)

2017-02-07 Thread Marcus Daniels
"Hence, no matter how deep the individuals are, they can come to a common ground through _actions_. But we can't (necessarily) say the same thing about thoughts/ideas/concepts/memes." Boycotts, stock trades, votes, and pulling down of walls with pickup trucks are all actions. We can also

Re: [FRIAM] loopiness (again)

2017-02-07 Thread Marcus Daniels
Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of glen ? Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 5:22 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] loopiness (again) On 02/07/2017 04:09 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: >

Re: [FRIAM] loopiness (again)

2017-02-07 Thread Marcus Daniels
h the part-whole relationship. On 02/07/2017 02:24 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Boycotts, stock trades, votes, and pulling down of walls with pickup trucks > are all actions. We can also learn from previous experience or history how > certain events play out and form approximate models in

Re: [FRIAM] loopiness (again)

2017-02-07 Thread Marcus Daniels
"For example, if you're a woman and you're trying to decide if Trump's words are meaningful (his locker room talk), you have to decide what community takes priority." She doesn't have to decide on the basis of communities. She can look at the available evidence and estimate if this is the

Re: [FRIAM] on the obustness of globalism

2017-02-02 Thread Marcus Daniels
Find a conflict-of-interest or a way to profit from government regulation, and you’ll find a way to predict the Trump administration. Remember this? http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/startup-aims-skirt-visa-limits-cruise-ship-foreign/story?id=18958353 From: Friam

Re: [FRIAM] on the obustness of globalism

2017-02-02 Thread Marcus Daniels
Steve writes: "I learned early in life that if a canoe is tipping to one side, you don't lean out the other, you drop to the bottom center, lower your center of gravity. Why is that so hard in sociopolitical contexts? Unless you want to tip into the drink!” Except that if we tip it over,

Re: [FRIAM] SFI to Trump: The dangers of simplicity in a complex world

2017-02-05 Thread Marcus Daniels
ibly false) premise that they want economic equality, believe in climate change, and want to avoid cascading conflicts. On Sat, Feb 4, 2017, 12:08 PM Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com<mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: Reason and politics collide! On page 103 of.. h

Re: [FRIAM] SFI to Trump: The dangers of simplicity in a complex world

2017-02-06 Thread Marcus Daniels
It was satisfying to see Cormac acquire an office and see various people huddle about whether that was allowed. :-) Of course it was! Marcus -- My god's a shallow little b*tch trying to make the scene -- Nine Inch Nails FRIAM

Re: [FRIAM] loopiness (again)

2017-02-07 Thread Marcus Daniels
Glen writes: < I don't think Trumpism is caused even slightly by too many people wanting to _drive_ the tractor. I think it's caused by a decoupling of words/understanding from action. > I meant on the left. Progressives wanted a progress story rather than attending to the danger of

Re: [FRIAM] on the obustness of globalism

2017-02-02 Thread Marcus Daniels
“Where are our shared values?” Once imposed, they will be our shared values. http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/317542-trump-vows-to-destroy-the-johnson-amendment FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30

Re: [FRIAM] on the obustness of globalism

2017-02-02 Thread Marcus Daniels
Steve writes: "I just hope he manages to do it without snapping off the masts and the wheelhouse, and then careens overboard before he sinks the entire ship, rats and all. Maybe there IS an awesome, high-tech ship-of-state or ship-of-society just over the horizon or beyond the fog of

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-22 Thread Marcus Daniels
Robert writes: “They are inherently community motivated and supported and are not the kind of enterprises that you will see move offshore or park their cash there to avoid US taxation” I make a distinction between people that are primarily goal motivated versus those that are primarily

Re: [FRIAM] Otra acción hostil

2017-01-23 Thread Marcus Daniels
“The petition has >267000 signatures in three days, we should be able to get a few million.” There’s another one regarding divestment / blind trust that would be super-infuriating to him too. Watch your junk-mail folder for the confirmation(s). Marcus

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-23 Thread Marcus Daniels
"The neo part is because pure liberalism takes the needs and wants of everyone into account. We neoliberals regret the collateral damage that is poverty, death, starvation, epidemic, etc. but we really only measure success by the top X% of the pyramid. That's the collateral damage of the

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-23 Thread Marcus Daniels
Glen writes: "Neoliberalism is simply the idea that any full exploration of the phenotype requires parallel processing." Hmm. I had thought of neoliberalism as being more controlled and centralized rather than less controlled compared to liberalism in general, but I think you are right. It

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-23 Thread Marcus Daniels
"This is why neoliberalism (kindasorta) works. It is an agenda where we limit our conscious planning and let the full ugliness of our complex reality rain down on us." A centralized experimental protocol rather than a control system for all time. It can work if results can be ingested and

Re: [FRIAM] cafeteria buddhism

2017-01-24 Thread Marcus Daniels
Well, I’m mulling over opinions like this. "If the anti-Trump forces are to have a chance, they have to offer a better nationalism, with diversity cohering around a central mission, building a nation that balances the

Re: [FRIAM] I thought Trump was nuts ...

2017-01-24 Thread Marcus Daniels
http://www.thestate.com/news/politics-government/article104303076.html http://fortune.com/2016/12/07/donald-trump-bitcoin/ From: Friam

Re: [FRIAM] white house petitions no longer counting

2017-01-26 Thread Marcus Daniels
I imagine Obama administration had assembled a road-tested team, say.. Application development: 1. Senior software engineer, a Latin American male recruited from Microsoft 2. Senior software engineer, an unusually talented woman from a Muslim family kept on after being a 24/7

Re: [FRIAM] Globalism in the age of populism? .. & Open Source Software

2017-01-27 Thread Marcus Daniels
< Hm. I suppose it's reasonable to further circumscribe "elites" by saying that it simply _cannot_ have a definite referent. When the particular populist sits down with someone like Hillary Clinton to quaff a pint and eat a hot dog, it's likely Clinton will be either removed as a member of

Re: [FRIAM] Globalism in the age of populism? .. & Open Source Software

2017-01-26 Thread Marcus Daniels
"I daily chat with pioneers in tech fields, most of whom are not in my state or even my country .. if I can call it mine any more. And we get along just fine and the whole is greater than the some of its parts." If the activity is commercial, then one could imagine that new protectionist

Re: [FRIAM] Globalism in the age of populism? .. & Open Source Software

2017-01-27 Thread Marcus Daniels
< The way you describe it, it sounds like "elites" is yet another aspect of "victimhood". In order to be susceptible to the (purposefully vague) rhetoric, you have to feel like a victim. And you might be especially ripe for the rhetoric if you have _not_ already identified your perpetrator.

Re: [FRIAM] Globalism in the age of populism? .. & Open Source Software

2017-01-27 Thread Marcus Daniels
Glen writes: < The more work you have to put in to see a return, to understand what's being said/done, the more likely the author/sender is an "elite". > I've gone to talks where I eventually figure-out that the topic is fairly simple, but I didn't know the hash from the list of historical

Re: [FRIAM] Globalism in the age of populism? .. & Open Source Software

2017-01-27 Thread Marcus Daniels
" But I think that type, that can't be "persuaded" [*] based on low-dimensional similarity and familiarity, has very few members. The real problem is establishing the similarity and familiarity." Most any introvert has had the experience of some patronizing know-nothing `help' them out of

Re: [FRIAM] Globalism in the age of populism? .. & Open Source Software

2017-01-27 Thread Marcus Daniels
And now we have a whole cabinet of billionaires. Thank goodness we are free of those darn elites! From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Merle Lefkoff Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 12:44 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group

Re: [FRIAM] Globalism in the age of populism? .. & Open Source Software

2017-01-30 Thread Marcus Daniels
Owen, I think you are conflating projects that are feasible for college students or retired individuals with projects that are feasible for professionals. In industry, some kinds of work products (and yes, software) are export-controlled and, whether or you sell them or not, you can be in big

Re: [FRIAM] Globalism in the age of populism? .. & Open Source Software

2017-01-27 Thread Marcus Daniels
at least make _some_ connection, however vapid, are helping them make decisions and navigate the world. If nothing else, the introvert should learn enough to manipulate people to get them to leave the room, with no hard feelings on the part of the manipulated. >8^D On 01/27/2017 01:08 P

Re: [FRIAM] Globalism in the age of populism? .. & Open Source Software

2017-01-27 Thread Marcus Daniels
"Of course that raises the question of whether the introverts really _can_ care about anyone other than themselves." Some introverts seek strong connections to tight network of friends (a preference for actual similarity or well-understood differences), some might look at others fearfully and

Re: [FRIAM] Globalism in the age of populism? .. & Open Source Software

2017-01-27 Thread Marcus Daniels
“Introversion is often caused by grandiose or exhibitionistic impulses.” For me, I would not say it is not self-inhibition, to, say, stay out of trouble. A simple explanation, like dopamine response sounds right.

Re: [FRIAM] [[Narcissism Again]again]

2017-01-27 Thread Marcus Daniels
Nick writes: "There is no truth of the matter; there is only the exercise of power. " [..] "So, if we are going to counter Trump, it cannot be by demonstrating that he lies. It has to be by demonstrating that liars don't win." He's old and nearing the last round of his iterated Prisoner's

Re: [FRIAM] Globalism in the age of populism? .. & Open Source Software

2017-01-27 Thread Marcus Daniels
Vladimyr writes: < So I cause confusion only because I do not fit into any well established classification system. I bring this up because my experience in life defies most systems which you are attempting to tease apart. Trump may well be a Narcissist and deluded in some traditional manner.

Re: [FRIAM] [[Narcissism Again]again]

2017-01-27 Thread Marcus Daniels
< What nick said was, "[For such a person as trump,] there is no truth of the matter, there is only the exercise of power." > I was capturing the essential bit. Nothing good ever comes from attribution. Marcus FRIAM Applied

Re: [FRIAM] How we can make the COUNTRY great again

2017-01-28 Thread Marcus Daniels
Space X just launched the first 10 (of 70) of Iridium NEXT low-earth satellites. https://www.iridium.com/company/industryleadership/iridiumcertus It’s not high bandwidth (about a 1MB/sec), but should be lower latency than HughesNet, Wildblue, etc. From: Friam on

Re: [FRIAM] [[Narcissism Again]again]

2017-01-28 Thread Marcus Daniels
It is worth noting he’s living in Spain. From: Friam on behalf of "Robert J. Cordingley" Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Date: Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 11:34 AM To: The Friday Morning

Re: [FRIAM] [[Narcissism Again]again]

2017-01-28 Thread Marcus Daniels
Well, I find this article depressing but plausible. Specifically, Andrés Miguel Rondón writes: “But it took opposition leaders 10 years to figure out that they needed to actually go to the slums and the countryside. Not for a speech or a

Re: [FRIAM] [[Narcissism Again]again]

2017-01-28 Thread Marcus Daniels
< So, the question is , “Should we do what we can do, no matter how lame or ineffectual it might seem?” Or, should we pull back, “move to Spain’, and leave it to others, “the politicians”, to lower themselves to do what needs to be done. > Andrés asserts it is not populism by another means.

Re: [FRIAM] [[Narcissism Again]again]

2017-01-29 Thread Marcus Daniels
Pamela: “But I don’t know if productivity of those 24/7 workers has been measured in a sound, qualitative way.” There is a certain euphoria in momentum even if it means long hours, especially if it is a task that is self-directed. Stopping hurts more than it helps. Days, weeks, months can

Re: [FRIAM] [[Narcissism Again]again]

2017-01-29 Thread Marcus Daniels
Pamela writes: “Turkle suggests all kinds of times out from technology—dinner time, before bed, that sort of thing.” There’s conflict that is created between those people that use electronic communication non-stop for their work vs. those that don’t want to. The former are essentially

Re: [FRIAM] Trump's wall is a wimp.

2017-01-29 Thread Marcus Daniels
Owen, First the Mexico wall. Then a wall to guard the good Americans from Washington, Oregon, California, and Nevada. Third a wall to isolate us from Canada. Fourth, a wall to isolate New England.So far that’s in the ballpark of 7K. Then add in walls to isolate Colorado, New Mexico,

Re: [FRIAM] Trump's wall is a wimp.

2017-01-29 Thread Marcus Daniels
:desm...@santafe.edu>> wrote: We could make it like a kind of habitrail! Big above-ground people-pipelines to give people in the west-coast corridor access to Canada and Mexico, and to connect the various metropolises. > On Jan 30, 2017, at 5:54 AM, Marcus Daniels > <mar...@snoutf

Re: [FRIAM] Which States Are Givers and Which Are Takers? - The Atlantic

2017-01-29 Thread Marcus Daniels
2014 gross state products. California: $2.31 Trillion (#1) [Giver] Texas: $1.65 Trillion (#2) [Taker] New York: $1.40 Trillion (#3) [Giver] Kansas gross state product: $147 billion (# 31) [Giver] http://kff.org/other/state-indicator/total-gross-state-product/?currentTimeframe=0 From:

Re: [FRIAM] [[Narcissism Again]again]

2017-01-29 Thread Marcus Daniels
Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [[Narcissism Again]again] Is the FRIAM list social media? Frank Wimberly Phone (505) 670-9918 On Jan 29, 2017 10:11 AM, "Marcus Daniels" <mar...@snoutfarm.com<mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: Pame

Re: [FRIAM] Check it out

2017-01-25 Thread Marcus Daniels
The presterity.org site look good! (Good insofar as discouraging content goes.) Economist's Intelligence Unit reports that we are now officially broken. Well done, America! Full democracies (starting from the best): Norway, Iceland, Sweden, New Zealand, Denmark, Canada, Ireland,

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-20 Thread Marcus Daniels
Robert writes: “The former--predominately the MSM--freely castigates any news source other than from among their own too-often colluding colleagues. The former fears the latter, especially since the barriers to entry are so low, comparatively.” Here again there is a benefit and a cost

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-21 Thread Marcus Daniels
< In a sense, conscious evolution is a kind of rebooting of a conscious organism with a new "morality" program that has the purpose of changing the nature of that organism more toward altruism and less toward self-interest, kind of resetting the initial conditions built into our DNA, so to

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-21 Thread Marcus Daniels
Robert writes: < It would be a Hebbian-oriented mental process by way of "habituating" the kind of thoughts that lead to altruism or the desired state. > I give that names like worrying, self-reflection, doubt, analysis, and reading. I believe it is practiced in a widespread way by the type

Re: [FRIAM] And so it begins: the dark times

2017-01-21 Thread Marcus Daniels
Jochen wrote: “On CNN I saw mainly women.” Even in the sleepy little town of Santa Fe, the streets were packed with demonstrators. Of course, women of many ethnicities -- some of them were infirm and shouldn’t have been out in the wind and snow. Lots of men, young adults, and children too.

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-20 Thread Marcus Daniels
“There are several Internet-based, often donation-dependent (I donate to several), news and opinion outlets that do very good, in-depth investigative journalism” Maybe you are right and it is sustainable. All I know is that I’ll give to Kickstarter campaigns, but I wouldn’t want to depend on

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-20 Thread Marcus Daniels
ency, I see an irony unfolding that suggests that maybe half of > America believe that the American economic situation could be different with > a different election result. Neoliberalism--not the Russians--has effectively > uncoupled those events. The root of the problem is neolibera

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-26 Thread Marcus Daniels
"I *did* enjoy hearing Chomsky answer this question at a NAFTA talk in ABQ 15 years ago with the simple statement "Socially Responsible Investing is a contradiction in terms". There was a loud titter among the roughly 50% students and a deafening silence among the other 50%

Re: [FRIAM] Globalism in the age of populism? .. & Open Source Software

2017-01-27 Thread Marcus Daniels
< I remain confused by the concept of "elites". > An elite is a symbol for an unknown bad guy. The bad buy exists somewhere at a distance. The elite must have caused me and my kind pain, or ignored me and my pain, because things aren't going well for me.This symbol validates their

[FRIAM] being thickheaded takes on a new meaning!

2017-01-26 Thread Marcus Daniels
https://academic.oup.com/scan/article/doi/10.1093/scan/nsw175/2952683/Surface-based-morphometry-reveals-the FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe

Re: [FRIAM] Check it out

2017-01-26 Thread Marcus Daniels
Wednesday, January 25, 2017 9:47:44 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Check it out Uguale con Italia? Non c'è male! On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 9:28 PM, Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com<mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: The prester

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-26 Thread Marcus Daniels
My intuition is that folks Thiel are perfectly happy to iterate our economic system (or whatever is left of it after Trump) to its natural conclusion, which is essentially extinction of democracy and a calamitous collapse of the population. Afterward, there will few rich people standing around

Re: [FRIAM] cafeteria buddhism

2017-01-24 Thread Marcus Daniels
I think those teachings _might_ cohere as a standalone work. But most of the Christians I have experience with don't really focus on Jesus. They tend to like the Psalms, Revelations, etc. So, it's unclear how/if we can pull out the stuff they find attractive and have it cohere. > On 01/24

Re: [FRIAM] cafeteria buddhism

2017-01-24 Thread Marcus Daniels
Use DaForce maybe? https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/federal-agencies-ordered-to-restrict-their-communications/2017/01/24/9daa6aa4-e26f-11e6-ba11-63c4b4fb5a63_story.html From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Gillian Densmore Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 5:07 PM To:

Re: [FRIAM] How we can make the COUNTRY great again

2017-01-28 Thread Marcus Daniels
al air traffic. On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com<mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: Space X just launched the first 10 (of 70) of Iridium NEXT low-earth satellites. https://www.iridium.com/company/industryleadership/iridiumcertus It’s not high band

Re: [FRIAM] Trump right again?

2017-02-21 Thread Marcus Daniels
Accidental suffocation and strangulation in bed (2013): 903 deaths. Drowning and submersion while in falling into bath-tub (2013): 464 deaths. Killed by terrorists (2014): 17 deaths From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Roger Frye Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 1:55 PM

Re: [FRIAM] Trump right again?

2017-02-21 Thread Marcus Daniels
he-Peoples-Data/1599854626919671> http://www.jtjohnson.com<http://www.jtjohnson.com/> t...@jtjohnson.com<mailto:t...@jtjohnson.com> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com<mailto:mar.

Re: [FRIAM] more fun with AI

2017-02-10 Thread Marcus Daniels
Roger writes: “This is getting sort of close to home, now, we're replacing cleverly contrived numerical methods for exotic quantum physics with generic machine learning algorithms.” The compression is a factor of 40 better compared to those algorithms. The problems aren’t super hard though,

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-23 Thread Marcus Daniels
Glen writes: "It seems especially stupid for atheists who can't count on seeing any sort of return on their investment. Having children is one way out of that. It shines a light on occult benefits one can realize while sacrificing their self to the benefit of someone else. And it raises the

Re: [FRIAM] Otra acción hostil

2017-01-23 Thread Marcus Daniels
This page is still up, for now. ☺ https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/immediately-release-donald-trumps-full-tax-returns-all-information-needed-verify-emoluments-clause-compliance From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Gary Schiltz Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 11:27

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-24 Thread Marcus Daniels
Vladimyr writes: "Really would parallel processing make even the least detectable difference or was the term thrown in to just scare the crap out of everyone..." Local genotype search, as advocated especially by racists, supposes that fit solutions have already been found, and should receive

Re: [FRIAM] Cold War Jitters Resurface as U.S. Marines Arrive in Norway - The New York Times

2017-01-17 Thread Marcus Daniels
”Yeah, by provoking the Russians it seems Obama is trying to "salt the earth" for the next administration. A so-called Parthian shot at those that threaten to throw his "legacy" under the bus.” Didn’t expect this..

Re: [FRIAM] The root of personality disorders

2017-01-17 Thread Marcus Daniels
I could imagine something like this unfolding.. 1) Humor him, play to his ego. Get him to set expectations about his power and to think it is easy. Kiss the ring. 2) Once `in’, do what is possible to seed disagreements within the administration in the hopes the conflict will

[FRIAM] ready for a bonfire?

2017-01-19 Thread Marcus Daniels
Hah, the ACA is just the beginning! http://thehill.com/policy/finance/314991-trump-team-prepares-dramatic-cuts FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe

Re: [FRIAM] ready for a bonfire?

2017-01-19 Thread Marcus Daniels
"When he retired, we yapped over half-done yard work about how corporatism and shareholder-first mentality destroyed his work environment." So, obviously, the thing to do is to vote to put corporate CEO types in charge of everything! Marcus

Re: [FRIAM] ready for a bonfire?

2017-01-19 Thread Marcus Daniels
“There may be a similar (over)reaction of yet another kind this round, but I am not seeing it yet? I don't think the MegaWoman March is an example of that, but the Trumpians seem to think it is an offense... as if they are coming to dc to tear Trump off his podium and shred him with their

Re: [FRIAM] ready for a bonfire?

2017-01-19 Thread Marcus Daniels
? Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 1:33 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] ready for a bonfire? Heh, they don't need to use their teeth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8VhtmFDzxg On 01/19/2017 12:26 PM, Marcus Daniels

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-19 Thread Marcus Daniels
t this is a good resource for that. Being open-minded does not mean you are brainwashed. Quite the opposite I would think ... On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com<mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: "The rigging is, IMHO, of not doing anything a

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-20 Thread Marcus Daniels
Robert writes: << Or, can we evolve consciously as a society to find a more inclusive solution?>> To make this happen, norms have to change, and that means everyone evolves. But, initially there can be a smaller number of people, `elites’ if want to call them that, that design and construct

Re: [FRIAM] Snow Day here in Santa Fe

2017-01-16 Thread Marcus Daniels
Ah, locals on this list live at about 22. Maybe some of the better-off look down from on high from 26. (Atalaya is about 28.) From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Alfredo Covaleda Vélez Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 4:14 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity

Re: [FRIAM] another suggestion for what you can do

2017-01-16 Thread Marcus Daniels
Good to see the Obama administration is building-in some signaling artifacts..

Re: [FRIAM] ready for a bonfire?

2017-01-19 Thread Marcus Daniels
hose of us who kindasorta get off on pain won't suffer as much as those who really dislike it. Let's just hope (probably in vain) that those who voted for him recognize that they caused the pain and death. On 01/19/2017 08:31 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > http://thehill.com/policy/finance/314991-tr

Re: [FRIAM] useR! 2016 international R User conference | Channel 9

2016-08-15 Thread Marcus Daniels
What high taxes in Denmark buys! ☺ https://channel9.msdn.com/Events/useR-international-R-User-conference/useR2016/Getting-R-into-your-bathroom http://apps.math.aau.dk/ggThiele/ From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Tom Johnson Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 5:32 PM To:

Re: [FRIAM] speaking of analytics

2016-09-09 Thread Marcus Daniels
“I know that theories are really useful for making predictions, but can one actually make a prediction without one?” Yes, that’s what data mining is: Take a large corpus of data, find some statistically rare relationships, and then test for their predictive value on another large corpus of

Re: [FRIAM] speaking of analytics

2016-09-09 Thread Marcus Daniels
ic P. Charles, Ph.D. Supervisory Survey Statistician U.S. Marine Corps On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 10:51 AM, Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com<mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: “I know that theories are really useful for making predictions, but can one actually make a prediction without

Re: [FRIAM] speaking of analytics - data mining

2016-09-11 Thread Marcus Daniels
In anguish, the people invented an entire new profession - Data Mining - that essentially 'crushed' the data stores creating gravel composed of individual datums and put the result in a different, more malleable matrix — live gravel in cement and sand and water (before the matrix dries). From

Re: [FRIAM] speaking of analytics - data mining

2016-09-11 Thread Marcus Daniels
o more errors than thinking of them as, say, dance partners in an elaborate contra-dance. Nick . Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of

Re: [FRIAM] speaking of analytics - data mining

2016-09-11 Thread Marcus Daniels
“Historically, RDB's are dying, simply because that are too rigid to evolve into fragmented, globally distributed, highly replicated file systems. Flat is Back.” Throwing the baby out with the bath water, I’d say. The relational aspect of a modern RDBMS database product is hardly the whole

Re: [FRIAM] speaking of analytics - data mining

2016-09-11 Thread Marcus Daniels
That was OK but basically was never used by researchers who much preferred a language based system .. i.e. like google search. Co-occurrence of words is not the same thing as natural language processing. There’s no conceptual query planner or unification system in place, like there is with

Re: [FRIAM] Wisdom of Crowds vs Kenneth Arrow

2016-09-14 Thread Marcus Daniels
"We tie a heavy chain around our ankle and then whine that we can hardly keep our head above water treading... If this kind of self-handicapping makes us into olympic swimmers, then I suppose I'm all for it... but it reminds me a bit too much of Vonnegut's "breakfast of champions" theme!"

Re: [FRIAM] Wisdom of Crowds vs Kenneth Arrow

2016-09-14 Thread Marcus Daniels
"In other words, your very purpose is exactly that, to work your way to results that no one else will notice ... until you tell them to notice it, of course." I suppose if work/life lasts long enough, folks will identify ways to avoid the attractors. A tabu search needs a global data structure

Re: [FRIAM] speaking of analytics

2016-09-08 Thread Marcus Daniels
Racial profiling is a single dimensional predictor. It's bad because it is regressive, not because race is a useless predictor. There are lots of attributes like that, and big data is just puts them together to predict aggregate behaviors about people without really having a theory of mind of

Re: [FRIAM] speaking of analytics

2016-09-09 Thread Marcus Daniels
mains but not others (i.e., not all domains of inquiry will contain the sought after patterns in a long-term stable form). Eric --- Eric P. Charles, Ph.D. Supervisory Survey Statistician U.S. Marine Corps On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 10:51 AM, Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com<ma

Re: [FRIAM] speaking of analytics

2016-09-09 Thread Marcus Daniels
s ever made an inference. N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com<mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent:

Re: [FRIAM] Wisdom of Crowds vs Kenneth Arrow

2016-09-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
The late Christopher Hitchens, five years ago: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2011/09/simply_evil.html << I take this as a part vindication of the superiority of "our" civilization, which is at least so constituted as to be able to learn from past mistakes,

Re: [FRIAM] rhetorical style (was: Wisdom of Crowds vs Kenneth Arrow)

2016-09-15 Thread Marcus Daniels
"Too often, I find myself at wit's end, trying to _pry_ someone out of what I [mis]interpret as a limiting scope. My angst and arrogance prevent me from using the soft styles." "Leaders" of various sorts have been known to create situations in which soft styles are required from their people.

Re: [FRIAM] speaking of analytics

2016-09-09 Thread Marcus Daniels
ickthompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com<mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 2:42 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com<mailto:friam@redfish.com>> Subj

Re: [FRIAM] speaking of analytics

2016-09-09 Thread Marcus Daniels
The investment aspect of the term is not inaccurate (not unlike with Bitcoin mining).Tabulating and calculating trillions of p-values (or SHA256 hashes) is not cheap. It's different than trying out a few hypotheses, ur, propectin'. -Original Message- From: Friam

Re: [FRIAM] Judge the quality of a ship and crew by the condition of the engine room

2016-09-25 Thread Marcus Daniels
“If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what, then, is an empty desk a sign?” Albert Einstein From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Tom Johnson Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 7:15 PM To: Friam@redfish. com Subject: [FRIAM] Judge the

Re: [FRIAM] Condorcet v. Dodgsen: was Wisdom of Crowds vs Kenneth Arrow

2016-09-07 Thread Marcus Daniels
"The endorsement reads very sincerely, but *that* makes me even more uncomfortable. It almost feels as if Hillary is a closet Republican and these guys are waiting for her to out herself (fully) in her inaugural speech." I see Hillary has having a set of political operational skills and,

Re: [FRIAM] Wisdom of Crowds vs Kenneth Arrow

2016-09-07 Thread Marcus Daniels
I just returned from a trip from the UK. I think rumors of the demise of their economy have been greatly exaggerated. Brexit will hurt the people that voted for it, just like Trump would hurt the people that voted for him.These aren’t the people that keep things running; they are the rear

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: The Best Political Ad Of The Year Is Absolutely Delightful - Digg

2016-10-26 Thread Marcus Daniels
Exactly my point (other thread): Let Gerald be Gerald. From: Friam on behalf of Owen Densmore Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 9:01:53 PM To: Complexity Coffee Group Subject: [FRIAM] Fwd: The Best Political Ad

Re: [FRIAM] Memo To Jeff Bezos: The Most Productive Workers Are Team Players, Not Selfish Individualists | The Evolution Institute

2016-10-26 Thread Marcus Daniels
he Evolution Institute Synergy. The whole is greater than the sum of its parts. Reeds law. Yup. On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 8:59 PM, Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com<mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: I'll say yes and no: Yes, a group of people that understand that each is disti

Re: [FRIAM] Memo To Jeff Bezos: The Most Productive Workers Are Team Players, Not Selfish Individualists | The Evolution Institute

2016-10-26 Thread Marcus Daniels
s-being-nice/?utm_source=kwfb_0=256037 Frank Wimberly Phone (505) 670-9918<tel:%28505%29%20670-9918> On Oct 26, 2016 7:33 PM, "Marcus Daniels" <mar...@snoutfarm.com<mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: Steve, I think it is a false dichotomy.A healthy collectiv

Re: [FRIAM] Memo To Jeff Bezos: The Most Productive Workers Are Team Players, Not Selfish Individualists | The Evolution Institute

2016-10-26 Thread Marcus Daniels
ite uniquely and seemingly in isolation to mixing it up both "on Boogie Street" as one song references, but also in the Monastery. Mumble, Ramble off On 10/26/16 1:59 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Any organization needs a reason to stay together. Reasons like profit or > sa

Re: [FRIAM] Memo To Jeff Bezos: The Most Productive Workers Are Team Players, Not Selfish Individualists | The Evolution Institute

2016-10-26 Thread Marcus Daniels
Any organization needs a reason to stay together. Reasons like profit or safety. Many organizations don't have profit sharing or the profit sharing doesn't amount to much, and is not a big motivator.On the other extreme are organizations like nations or gangs that provide protection

Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-27 Thread Marcus Daniels
“I have gotten involved in email exchanges on FRIAM and elsewhere that were so good that I wanted to save them in chronological order and perhaps edit them into some kind of text for the authors to present elsewhere.” If you think there is value in some discussion, a better thing to do IMO is

Re: [FRIAM] Memo To Jeff Bezos: The Most Productive Workers Are Team Players, Not Selfish Individualists | The Evolution Institute

2016-10-27 Thread Marcus Daniels
"Viewing such biasing as _limiting_ is a fundamental problem." If all roads lead to Rome, that's where people will end up. Of course, it is very exploitable, and one can get very good at gaming such a system.The agency one gains from doing so can give one the impression they are freer than

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