> Now this is interesting! You want to help McJob corporations to further
> lower their McWages for shit work, in order to increase shareholder profits,
> all at the expense of taxpayers. BI as a neo-con scheme after all ?
>
> Chris
Thomas:
I thought you'd like that little twist Chris. Gotta
loyees and they would
> scream -
> unfair and I think rightly so. Plus, it would still leave those
> with no
> jobs dependent on Provincial Welfare which is less than $900 a
> month and
> creates tons of problems and expenses.
>
> But for those who can't find work or fo
> Therefore, in any criticism of consumerism (and I agree that it's now a
> damaging symptom of modern society) unless you can find a universal cause
> then it is pointless to argue against it morally because it is unstoppable.
> If we find a cause, then we might be able to suggest alternatives.
>
in a previous posting that there
is clawback when there is no need through the tax system.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
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Title: Re: [Futurework] FW Basic Income sites
Ed:
Well said! My orientation is much like yours. I see a Basic Income to be enabling in the development of a human being. I see governance that helps people achieve their goals as a benevolent government. And why shouldn't we have a benevolen
Title: Re: [Futurework] (no subject)
Thomas:
After just writing my sardonic piece on my poor childhood, I am shamed at realizing how far I am from true poverty and I apologize to the Universe and to you who read this for my arrogance.
Thanks for sharing Harry,
Thomas Lunde
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From
He bought a castle with 500 rooms
> and his wife was caught riding a Harley-Davidson through the extended
> corridors. Sally would give her a BI to pay the gasoline, I guess.
>
> Chris
Thomas:
Yep, I would advocate that she gets the Basic Income to do her thing. A
story. My grandparents where
Title: Re: FULL OF ADMIRATION (was RE: Slightly extended (was Re: [Futurework] David Ricardo, Cavema n Trade vs. Modern Trade
Thomas:
Well, I've come out a working class envirnoment as well and I haven't accomplished shit. Maybe I didn't have the luck! Maybe I was deficient in some charact
ore deeply.
Ed
- Original Message -
From: "Christoph Reuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Futurework] FW Basic Income sites
> Thomas Lunde wrote:
> > Well, Chris, you got me - sloppy
s a question of perspective.
Once we can clarify a perspective, then we can find the means to implement
that vision. If I have defined the problem correctly, I will be pleased.
If not, I ask you for your perspective at the level of the needs of human
beings as the background for y
Title: Re: [Futurework] http://www.glaesernemanufaktur.de/
Thomas:
I like this idea!
How to fix up education has often been discussed on this list. If I were to fix it up at the grade-school level, I would put less emphasis on mathematics and the sciences and more on disciplines that get mat
Title: Re: Slightly extended (was Re: [Futurework] David Ricardo, Ca vema n Trade vs. Modern Trade
Thomas:
Can I join your society, please.
Interesting Robert,
But where are the great towering human achievements beyond the cows? You have to imagine both. Can you imagine orchestras an
to you. Ed and I grew up with the idea that you should - within certain parameters - do what you want - that to me is called opportunity - the other is a form of coercion - do it or starve.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
Henry George School of Social
e
capital. The idea of "rents" also had within it, the concept of maximizing
the use of land, buildings, machinery on a rental - i.e. affordable basis
rather than the necessity of large amounts of capital.
Well, enough for this early morning.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
&
them. Talk about the logic of the absurb.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
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Thomas:
There has to be a bigger context to the decision than"our" money. That
context might include what is necessary for the victims - the Iraqi citizen
who neither asked for Saddam or George.
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x27;s not a bad idea as I'm sure the ongoing drudgery of running a food bank must be a major pain in the ass.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
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gnity and self respect to everyone for acknowledging their
right to existence as a participant on the planet earth.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
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>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [Futurework] FW Basic Income sites
>Date: Mon, Dec
achine produced bread. Distribute that value through a
basic income scheme on a Universal basis. We will then strive for total
machine productivity because it will eventually mean total leisure activity.
Something we humans have been trying to achieve since our first slave.
Respectfully,
T
Title: Re: [Futurework] And even more productivity or what?
Hi Ed:
You mean Keith, Ray and Harry don't you?
In fun,
Thomas
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To: "Thomas Lunde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Fut
Hi Ray:
The same as you pay them for talent or luck. But you don't give a guy (or
company) exclusivity for a hundred years or whatever the time frame is, for
what may amount to a good dream and a little thinking.
Thomas
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>From: "Ray Evans Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Harry Pol
basic neccisities. Why does no one challenge the concept of unlimited wealth as a right. After all, after 10 million or so for personal and family use, the rest is scores among the big boys/
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
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S
from raising the minimum wage to $12 per hour or tightening the labour code so that employers have to pay overtime and stop a lot of part time work that is just a method for business to sqeeze their labour expenses down.
Anyway, great essay.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
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and get my disgust for their inability to do their job, which they are well paid for both in money and respect. While the victims are blamed.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
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Title: Re: [Futurework] And even more productivity or what?
Welcome to the Matrix Ed!
--
From: "Ed Weick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "futurework" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Futurework] And even more productivity or what?
Date: Thu, Dec 4, 2003, 2:20 PM
I was educated in the 1950s and
Hi Ray:
One of the few times I disagree. D&N's passionate response is more to my
liking. Still, drafting to a Peace Corp or Environment Core and investing 2
years in the greater good may suffice as a reason to draft.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
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>From: "Darryl and
system of justice and the freedom and thereby create a surplus to enjoy.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
s the nut of it all. Why doesn't everyone have an adequate supply of money so they can handle their own needs and expectations? Why indeed?
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
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To: "'Ray Evans Harrell'"
next November - relegated to a dismal place in American history books.
Thomas Lunde
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To: "futurework" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Futurework] Be a good little beaver for Uncle Sam!
Date: Mon, Nov 17, 2003, 8:56 AM
T
the newspaper and TV like a good little robot as well.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Futurework] Re: Designer drugs...
Date: Fri, Oct 17, 2003, 7:19 PM
Thomas and Robert,
I don't intend to add fuel to the fi
ncial suffering. The psychopath's win another one.
So, it's a real blame the victim game and avoid/deny addressing the real
problem - individuals among us who can only be considered psychopathic.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
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This is the last of my repostings. Sorry if I've cluttered up your mail
box.
Thomas Lunde
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>To: Christoph Reuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [Futurework] designer drugs (was Re: The New Great
Transfo
I am reposting this as I never did get a copy in my mail? Did anyone
recieve this?
Thomas Lunde
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To: Ray Evans Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Futurework] A much wider war is possible
Date: Fri, Oct 10, 2003
Another repost that I don't think went through.
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>From: "Thomas Lunde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [Futurework] Free Trade kills :: Why not :economy games" like "war
games" instead of economy like war?
>Date:
o value thingss because the value is in the hands of the
consumer. So, Harry, I guess you've made a convert. I think I should be
able to into the grocery store and pick so groceries and go to a counter and
make an offer. You know, this actua
nce of altering consciousness other
than alcohol. A depressant.
Regards,
Thomas Lunde
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>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [Futurework] The New Great Transformation (was Why not :economy
games" like " war games" inste
the vulgar paraphrase but sometimes you have to be brutal to get noticed.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
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To: "Brian McAndrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Karen Watters Cole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject
new thought will come.
What the shape of this new market will be will be answered by history. We
will solve this problem and 200 years from now, people will study this last
century with as much disbelief as we now think of nobility and kingship as a
means of governance.
Respectfully,
Thom
many young people are on this list - zip. Why, because we are all talking French and they are all German.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [Futurework] working with learning disabilities
energy, he will be bankrupt before he
achieves his goals.
As to the rest of us - go suck a lemon. The trickle down theory will become
the dominant model and if you are not where the trickle is - freeze, starve,
and die.
Some thoughts.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
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>From: Keith Hud
Good observation Arthur. It could be that for this particular "assignment"
the men had to be able to read and write to get into Flight Training so they
could manage the weapon of choice. It may also be that only the well off
could develop these attributes enough to take the trainin
Title: Re: [Futurework] social trends: Profanity
Eloquently and succinctly stated. I would like to join your vision. Great thinking.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTE
idance of a spirit helper, or your higher
self. If so, why is a progressive pattern of some kind not more noticable -
effects seem contradictory at times as if whoever is running the show is
only partially in charge.
No definitive answers from me - I'm still at effect and still exploring
Title: Re: [Futurework] 099. The looming dilemma of the welfare state
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To: Keith Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Futurework] 099. The looming dilemma of the welfare state
Date: Mon, Sep 22, 2003, 11:24 AM
Hi K
Title: Re: [Futurework] Re: [Futurework] Re: [Futurework] Re: [Futurework] "Spiritualität macht frei" ? (was Re: NYT Article: Is Buddhism Good for Your Health?)
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To: Selma Singer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject:
Title: Re: [Futurework] Education
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To: Ed Weick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Futurework] Education
Date: Wed, Sep 17, 2003, 2:19 PM
Thomas:
Not only is all the below true - think little Canada, spread out over
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>To: Selma Singer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [Futurework] (no subject)
>Date: Sun, Sep 21, 2003, 4:58 PM
>
>
>
> Bob Este wrote on this thread:
>
> Here we are not falling into
guise of
economics, it makes perfect sense, but from the point of view of society it
is stabbing your own citizens in the back. But hey, a buck is a buck and
profit is the driving motive.
Bye the way Ray, so good to read you again.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
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>From: "Ray Evans
of Canada to be reissued.
Well, that's my quick take on it.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
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d, what they owe, what they can defer, what they can
do without, what they want, etc. Money and the exchange of goods and
services are inventions that were supposed to make our lives better - better
in terms of happiness, community, fulfillment, loving and many other
positive virtues. For most of
lower quality and more planned obeslence which means that savings from quality and durability are lost. It would be better to build a car that was easy to repair and upgrade and had a life span of 20 or 30 years, rather than 10.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
st of mathmatician. And yes, we should even allow some the
sin of laziness and indolence - for they are human potentials too.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
on 4/16/02 7:07 AM, Selma Singer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am particularly interested in the response some of you may hav
, was the statement that they were reducing the
number of chairs and sofa's so that it would not be as comfortable as
before. I'm sure the decision was made partly because of the problems you
have outlined.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
on 4/7/02 6:20 AM, Brad McCormick, Ed.D. at [EMAIL
dscape and make representative democracy work in a different fashion with
different priorities. I venture the poor and the army of the unemployed
would exert a might pressure for the concept of decent wages and full
employment changing some of the paradigms of business and government.
Respectfully,
Thomas
to big brother in the land to the
south.
Good post,
Thomas Lunde
on 4/4/02 10:47 PM, Ross James Swanston at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> "Privatizing the Public: Whose Agenda? At What Cost?
>
> Away back in the early 1980s when I first went to university we had as
> require
s long as one or more of the parties continue to hold and justify their viewpoint, only conflict or avoidance will result.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
PS:
I might add that an interesting discovery was found when the founders of NLP studied the master hypnotist, Dr. Milton Ericson. They
Title: Re: Three social consequences
on 3/30/02 12:18 AM, Harry Pollard at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tom,
You said:
"As to the assumptions, let me add a few more. We can assume there is a
species - called humans. We can assume this species manipulates data,
images, real things. He makes sh
on 3/22/02 7:48 AM, Salvador R. Sánchez Gutiérrez at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> Which article, Mr. Lunde?
> Regards from Mexico City
> Salvador Sánchez
>
> From: "Thomas Lunde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 4:56 PM
Hi Salvador:
HI Keith and Harry:
Feeling a little bitchy this morning so I think I'll take a wack at your
pretentionous analysis. On the one hand, we have the two/three assumptions
and on the other side we have Maslow and others who sense some kind of
heirarchy of needs. Neither of which seem complete to me
Hi Brad:
I read this after my morning rant to Keith and Harry. Once again you have
seen the essence as against the corporate generalization.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
on 3/23/02 11:27 AM, Brad McCormick, Ed.D. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> "Lawrence DeBivort" <[EMAIL PR
ges. It's just too damn complex. And how to we react to that - for to admit that truth leads to a macro solution possibility that might not have been considered before.
Rambling
Thomas Lunde
on 3/4/02 5:31 PM, Ed Weick at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Thomas,
On my most eclectic shelves, I
national
value. What am I missing?
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
on 3/19/02 2:14 PM, Ed Goertzen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi Thomas:
> Interesting item.
>
> Just a couple things to remember.
>
> Anthing can be used as money, provided all parties to the use thereof
ovide opportunities for
communities - not for the propogation of more material goods with all their
attendant problems of use and waste. The question is easy, the answer,
slightly more difficult.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROT
radio program was taken from the writers notes before it became a book.
Curious.
Thomas Lunde
on 3/18/02 11:33 AM, Steve Kurtz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The book title is:
The Efficient Society - Why Canada is as Close to Utopia As It Gets, by Joseph Heath
Not sure about 'Cult of
economics is a ridiculous exercise akin to discussing how
many angels can sit on the head of a pin. We would be better off playing
chess for all the effect such a discussion really has on the important
questions of what a human is.
Well, that is my morning rant. Read the article.
Respectfully,
age - don't expect the
drugs your Dr. feels you need are covered. Kindly just go fucking die
somewhere so the neo-cons can balance there steadily falling budgets.
Welcome to the future - work! - or die.
Thomas Lunde
on 3/15/02 12:46 PM, Steve Kurtz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
&g
I am forwarding this article from another List. It covers many of the
topics we have been discussing. Any opinions??
Thomas Lunde
on 2/6/02 1:02 PM, Kristen N. Fox at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hey Guys,
>
> This is an article I found linked on the web, with a (surprisingly?)
that
it will happen to some member of this government. Mindless neo-con thinking
run rampant.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
on 2/6/02 11:36 AM, Franklin Wayne Poley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> A most astute analysis of BC Politics. Yes it is our favourite sport next
> to hockey but Ca
here else.
There is some really original thinking in this book and Steve Kurtz has
quoted from it several times and I have read it as well and been very
impressed.
Thomas Lunde
ve a ghost writer
or you never sleep. And how in the hell can you afford - memory here, 1700+
for Rent?
With affection,
Thomas Lunde
on 3/7/02 9:27 AM, Brian McAndrews at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> At 2:40 PM -0500 2002/03/06, Ray Evans Harrell wrote:
>> To answer the first quest
also played the 'what is good for
the German people' as a rationale for his actions.
I think we are observing a very dangerous slide in which the main actors
have agendas that are not world friendly.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
on 3/5/02 11:37 PM, Keith Hudson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thomas:
Interesting thoughts. What the masses watch today is TV. God forbid that
the Simpsons become the dominant art form of our century in future
historians interpretations of our Art - and yet it could happen.
thoughts,
Thomas Lunde
on 2/26/02 12:02 PM, Brian McAndrews at [EMAIL
s even worse in most cities. So, perhaps I might ask you the question,
'Are communities as obsolete as blacksmith shops? and have we moved to a
more sophisticated type of communtity based on interest rather than local?
Anyway, those are my thoughts.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
on 2/24/
Heath to my list - thank you for pointing me towards him.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
PS: It's pretty impressive to me when Canada has been named by the United Nations for a number of years as being the best society on the planet to live in - though as Heath argues, we may not have known wh
Hi Ray:
I'm probably a little off topic here but in the Universe's own way of
synchronicity, the message I read before this one somehow connects in my
mind some of the confusion you are feeling. If I may share this posting
with the list, I would ask that you all take a silent moment, look out
other politely. A most Canadian quality I might add.
One of the joys for me of the List is the constant series of quotes from both perspectives that widen my ability to be tolerant. Post away Brian.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
on 2/24/02 7:12 AM, Brian McAndrews at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I
nomic policy creates a situation at the bottom in which if I
am on welfare, and I get a job, someone else loses a job - net gain - zero.
Brillant thinking from the economists.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
> What is Claire Short saying? She is saying that all government aid to
> underdevelope
ng time - and like a slum landlord, the US has been making sure that it continues - for others. My belief, "what goes around comes around."
So, my answer to the question you posed Ray is simple. They come believing there is still a seat for them in the lifeboat. I wonder.
Respectf
any
particular bais needs to be postulated.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
on 2/13/02 1:26 AM, Keith Hudson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
>
> I'll summarise this thread by quoting part of my original posting:
>
> (KH)
>> My contention is that we need a poli
already happened in the Stats Can (or the
equivalent in other countries) has to considered accurate and unbiased for
it to be used/useful.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
on 2/14/02 12:27 AM, Keith Hudson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> This supports my view -- and what I think is an unstoppable tr
Hi Ed:
You are enlarging my area of discontent here Ed, soon the only people left
that I can relate too will be those on this list - ah well, there could be
worse fates for me.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
on 2/17/02 4:34 AM, Ed Weick at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
>> Very evo
reasonable length of time.
My question to the more mathmatically endowed members of the list is:
(a) Is it possible?
(b) Would it be a relevant way to establish value that is relevant to
trade?
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
on 2/3/02 11:59 PM, Charles Brass at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
Title: Re: FWk: Re: Double-stranded Economics
on 2/2/02 7:14 PM, Harry Pollard at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Brian,
We must clear up the meaning and use of Assumptions. (I'm making then official with a capital - but they are rarely expressed, I would think, by scientists. This because they have
formation to be what you think
it should.
Read,
Enjoy,
Thomas Lunde
The Bent Wheat Daily
Post Serial
January 30, 2002
Economy
What is the economy, and why do we feel we have to stimulate it? Like
constantly giving it electroshocks to keep it alive. I would define war as
an electroshock.
I alwa
for your postings - learning is fun when you have good teachers.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
on 2/1/02 8:53 PM, Mike Spencer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Pete Vincent wrote:
>
>> When mathematics is applied to the problem of the nature of the physical
>> world, it'
y that rarely can be applied in the real world?
With great respect:
Thomas Lunde
on 2/1/02 8:19 AM, Ed Weick at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
The list has see considerable discussion of the nature of economics recently. I haven¹t been able to participate because I¹ve been busy on other things, th
Hi Mike:
I thought this was a great rebuttal to Harry's assumptions.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
on 2/1/02 11:05 PM, Mike Spencer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Gail wrote:
>
> gail> There is, however, so much confusion in this conference between
> gail> work
se assumptions often lead to wrong conclusions which
usually negate any possiblity of predictability.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
on 2/1/02 1:21 AM, Keith Hudson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi Harry and Arthur,
>
> For the time being, let me take just one strand from your (HP&#x
way I see out of the dilemma is 'oversight committees' or a form of
'public forums' that can constantly point out these contradictions. Another
one we deal with in Canada is 'the first past the post' in counting votes.
I like your thoughts.
Respectfully,
Thomas
Title: Re: Work and the economy
Hi Gail:
I really like your thinking here and you are a very expressive and honest writer.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
on 2/4/02 9:16 AM, G. Stewart at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Brian,
You wrote:
"It is good to have you contributing to this list
ssy and humanly subjective to ever be able to be used as the basis of a sustainable society). Which is a pity really...
Thomas:
Yep, denial is a viscous disease. Society for citizens or society to serve an economy? What do you want?
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
Charles Brass
Title: Re: The Coming Power
I liked this essay Harry.
Thomas Lunde
on 1/28/02 10:55 AM, Harry Pollard at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Keith,
After Enron how can we have any faith in these earnings reports?
Also re the decline of the American Empire: will they decline peacefully or might
on 12/10/01 4:05 AM, Keith Hudson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Those who have been protesting on economic grounds (and supposedly on
> behalf of the poor of the world) at Prague, Quebec, Geneva and other places
> want to scrap these institutions altogether. But, as I have tediously
> repeated on
of
stated goals at the end - how can we every refine our choices to better
outcomes.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
on 2/11/02 3:52 AM, S. Lerner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> A distinguished Indian writer comments on globalization, Enron, etc. Sally
>
>
>
n what could be produced and sold at a tenth of the cost for local consumption like electricity, propane, gas and oil. So, we are uneconomical because we are forced to compete against world prices that are often based on economies of scale or urbanization.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
on 2/5/02 12
e the man
behind the words. This I appreciate.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
on 2/11/02 4:38 AM, Christoph Reuss at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Keith Hudson wrote:
>> In the largest countries of Europe where
>> centralisation and control has been the greatest in the last 20 years -
itive value like gold in Ft.
Knox that is 'real' value.
It certainly took me a lot of reading and thinking to clear out notions of
how a currency's value is established and I am still not sure I know. I
rather think, most have never thought about it.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
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e will be happy no matter what the world chooses to do for
here remains the last holdout of that social phenomena of the 60's, alive
and well and into the third generation - and it can only happen in Canada.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lunde
I was sitting with my new friend Duncan, a blind - ex-hippie with a
conservative mindset. We had just finished sampling a special herb and we
were discussing the recent cuts that the B.C. government is involved in.
Well, Duncan was a little judgmental as he spoke from his Santa Claus beard
and op
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