On 23/10/2004, at 11:33, Larry le Mac wrote:
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And 1 KB * 1 K is mixed mode math. Since the 2nd term has no object,
it's considered to be base 10... 1024 * 1000 yields the wrong count.
Never mix your bases.
Are you aware of the difference between 1 KB and 1 kB ?
From what
From: Dennis B. Swaney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ben, when was the SI changed?
K = Kilo or 1,000
Don't be cocky if you can't get it right yourself...
kilo = k (not K)
Larry
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we're not even smart enuf to decide if we should go metric or english!
That makes no sence what so ever as I studied electronics
at University in England for 4 years and we used nothing
but METRIC!!!
What is English measuring system ???
If someone tries to inform me that
On Sunday, October 24, 2004, at 07:29 pm, Larry le Mac wrote:
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we're not even smart enuf to decide if we should go metric or english!
That makes no sence what so ever as I studied electronics
at University in England for 4 years and we used nothing
but METRIC!!!
What is
Yeah, and they claim to speak English, but it's hardly recognizable to
us in Texas!
Travis
On Oct 24, 2004, at 2:52 PM, Larry le Mac wrote:
Sure, but England is a METRIC country and has been for a very
long time...
Larry
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From: Travis Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MAC verses Mac
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:01:17 -0500
Yeah, and they claim to speak English, but it's hardly recognizable to us
in Texas!
Travis
On Oct 24, 2004, at 2
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On 24 Oct 2004, at 22:18, Larry le Mac wrote:
Are you seriously saying that the Texas accent is more real
English than English ???
Umm Larry take
From: Richard Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Umm Larry take it easy i think he was joking because both English and
Texans have accents that are funny even to me and i'm English.
No worries, I am half English myself so there's no lack of humour,
but it just gets to me when Americans think that their
Wasn't it Sir Winston who is attributed with saying something like,
The English and the Americans are separated by a common language?
Need a linguistic history lesson? That is an accusation up with which I
will not put...
Travis
On Oct 24, 2004, at 3:25 PM, Richard Clark wrote:
Umm Larry take
Yeah, and next you'll be claiming the English play football...and
what's with driving on the wrong side of the road?
Travis
On Oct 24, 2004, at 3:42 PM, Larry le Mac wrote:
No worries, I am half English myself so there's no lack of humour,
but it just gets to me when Americans think that their
When is enough enough?
47 posts? 48? 49?
The only thread pertinent to this list (G-Books) is the Lombard -
eMac offshoot.
And I thought Laurent asked twice for this to end.
I'll not respond further to this way off topic post.
Shawn
On Oct 24, 2004, at 5:11 PM, Travis Martin wrote:
Yeah, and next
Around 1981 or so the Canadian Rhinoceros party had a great solution to
bring Canada into line with the UK. They proposed a three-year plan
transition, with heavy trucks the first year, buses and light trucks the
second, and any remaining survivors the third.
Andrew
On 10/24/04 2:11 PM, Travis
On 10/24/04 4:01 PM, Travis Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah, and they claim to speak English, but it's hardly recognizable to
us in Texas!
Travis
On Oct 24, 2004, at 2:52 PM, Larry le Mac wrote:
Sure, but England is a METRIC country and has been for a very
long time...
My
Folks,
I asked to drop that thread and continue it privately if you must enforce
your point of view.
However, even if I tried to be lenient, people still continue to post.
So, the next person who post a reply to that thread will be banned
temporarily to think before hitting the Send button.
on 24/10/04 18:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/24/04 4:01 PM, Travis Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah, and they claim to speak English, but it's hardly recognizable to
us in Texas!
Travis
On Oct 24, 2004, at 2:52 PM, Larry le Mac wrote:
Sure, but
The following is not meant to be a criticism of any list member. It
just needs to be clarified so that we all are on the same page when
discussing issues.
As a general rule (inside or outside computerdom) any word that is
completely capitalized, is an acronym. For example:
SSID = Service Set
On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 7:46 am -0600, Bob wrote:
MAC is an acronym used with wireless and Ethernet networks, and it
stands for Medium Access Control (I've also heard it referred to as
machine access control but I don't know if that correct or not).
Er, 'Media Access Control' I think.
The National Enquirer reports at 8:32 AM +0100 10/23/04, Tim Hodgson wrote:
On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 7:46 am -0600, Bob wrote:
MAC is an acronym used with wireless and Ethernet networks, and it
stands for Medium Access Control (I've also heard it referred to as
machine access control but I
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A megabyte is 1 KB * 1 KB = 1024 bytes * 1024 bytes =
1,048,576 bytes.
A gigabyte is 1 KB * 1 MB = 1024**3 bytes =
1,073,741,824 bytes!
Sorry to have to correct you, but it's not 1 KB * 1 KB as
then you'd get Byte squared, it's 1 KB * 1 K...
Larry
MB/sec = megabytes per second. There is NO MBps!
How come...?
bit is an acronym for binary digit. It is *binary*, ie base 2,
never decimal! IOW, the multiplier is a power of 2, not 10. 1024
not 1000. Repeat the mantra of your grade school teacher: NEVER MIX
BASES.
1024 bytes per kilobyte.
on 10/23/04 9:55 AM, Marcin Wichary at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Going back to topic, wasn't there an idea at one point that MAC would
stand for Mouse Activated Computer? (or would it be Mouse-Activated
Computer? :) )
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on 10/23/04 9:57 AM, Marcin Wichary at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Also, I think the subject should read MAC versUs Mac.
I will shut up now.
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At 05:57 PM +0200 10/23/2004, Larry le Mac wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A megabyte is 1 KB * 1 KB = 1024 bytes * 1024 bytes =
1,048,576 bytes.
A gigabyte is 1 KB * 1 MB = 1024**3 bytes =
1,073,741,824 bytes!
Sorry to have to correct you, but it's not 1 KB * 1 KB as
then you'd get Byte squared,
No, actually... think about it: 4 kilometres * 4 kilometres = 16
kilometres^2. So, 4kB * 4kB = 16kB^2 (where 1 square kilobyte is equal
to a million square bytes, whatever that means). Simple dimensional
analysis ;) Correctly, it should read: A megabyte is 1kB * 1024.
Cheers,
Ben
On 24 Oct
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And 1 KB * 1 K is mixed mode math. Since the 2nd term has no object, it's
considered to be base 10... 1024 * 1000 yields the wrong count. Never mix
your bases.
Are you aware of the difference between 1 KB and 1 kB ?
Larry
From: Ben Dyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So, 4kB * 4kB = 16kB^2 (where 1 square kilobyte is equal to a million
square bytes, whatever that means).
My point precisely!!
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Correctly, it should read: A megabyte is 1kB * 1024.
Er, no...
1 KB * 1024 (not 1 kB)
Larry
Actually, it's kB :-) kilo is the only standard prefix representing a
positive power of 10 with a lowercase symbol.
Cheers,
Ben
On 24 Oct 2004, at 04:34, Larry le Mac wrote:
From: Ben Dyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So, 4kB * 4kB = 16kB^2 (where 1 square kilobyte is equal to a million
square bytes,
At 06:55 PM +0200 10/23/2004, Marcin Wichary wrote:
MB/sec = megabytes per second. There is NO MBps!
How come...?
I think because it's simply a bad abbreviation, too often confused
because people don't pay close enough attention to the cases.
Additionally, a lot of publishing software, during
From: Ben Dyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So, 4kB * 4kB = 16kB^2 (where 1 square kilobyte is equal to a million
square bytes, whatever that means).
My point precisely!!
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Correctly, it should read: A megabyte is 1kB * 1024.
Er, no...
1 KB * 1024 (not 1 kB)
Larry
Actually guy's is this really needed??
No, Vicki, it's not being rude at all; I've been following it with
interest and have found it informative. Notice, in fact, that the
subject line has been changed from your original posting so as to
reflect the newly morphed thread...what is roughly meant sometimes
gets confused to the point
At 03:49 AM +1000 10/24/2004, Ben Dyer wrote:
No, actually... think about it: 4 kilometres * 4 kilometres = 16
kilometres^2. So, 4kB * 4kB = 16kB^2 (where 1 square kilobyte is
equal to a million square bytes, whatever that means). Simple
dimensional analysis ;) Correctly, it should read: A
Not at all. Think about it like this: velocity is change in
displacement divided by change in time, right? That is,
v = delta x/delta t
Now, if d is specified in metres, and t in seconds, v must be in units
of metres/seconds, or m/s. See, in any equation, final units will be
specified by
MB/sec = megabytes per second. There is NO MBps!
How come...?
I think because it's simply a bad abbreviation, too often confused
because people don't pay close enough attention to the cases.
Additionally, a lot of publishing software, during their clean up
operations, damage double
On Saturday, October 23, 2004, at 07:07 pm, Travis Martin wrote:
No, Vicki, it's not being rude at all; I've been following it with
interest and have found it informative. Notice, in fact, that the
subject line has been changed from your original posting so as to
reflect the newly morphed
I will just keep following it and be amazed at the end when everyone
agree's Because that never happens.
...which is partially what makes it so interesting. :)
There's a great saying... If you're stupid, surround yourself with
smart people. If you're smart, surround yourself with smart people
At 07:49 PM + 10/23/2004, victoria Duggan wrote:
Actually guy's is this really needed??
you all know what is roughly meant ,do you have to pic fault with
the way it is put to paper as you are not helping the people that
need the help.!
Really by picking at the way they word there emails,
No! No intention whatever to bend your ears! Please don't take
offense where none was intended. If the thread doesn't interest you, I
understand that. But these things take on a life of their own. I don't
see any evidence at all of anyone wanting to offend, so please don't
think you're being
If you were to draw a line graph depicting the spectrum of smarts
with 0=totally ignorant and 100=omniscient, the range of stupid to
smart among we humans would barely make a dot. Or, as Will Rogers is
quoted as saying, We're all ignorant on different subjects.
Travis
On Oct 23, 2004, at 2:30
OK, folks, I think that we had enough of those descriptions, definitions and
explanations. We all know now what is the difference between 'MAC' and
'Mac'.
Can we let this thread die and resume our conversation on our insanely great
Apple laptops?
Thanks!
-Laurent.
G-Books List Nanny.
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Ok. So we get carried away a bit. Hey, that's what makes these lists
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Hi this interest's me i will be taking delivery of an Emac next week and
i will need to back up all the info off of my
Out Damn Spot...OUT!!!
I think we have ha d a sufficient quantity of this commodity..
How about it Laurent, etal???
Regards,
Mike K
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At 4:38 AM +1000 10/24/04, Ben Dyer wrote:
Actually, it's kB :-) kilo is the only standard prefix representing
a positive power of 10 with a lowercase symbol.
Ben, when was the SI changed? I was taught that lower case denoted
powers to the right of the decimal point and upper case denoted
.
- Original Message -
From: Dennis B. Swaney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: MAC verses Mac
At 4:38 AM +1000 10/24/04, Ben Dyer wrote:
Actually, it's kB :-) kilo is the only standard prefix representing a
positive
At 04:48 PM -0700 10/23/2004, Dennis B. Swaney wrote:
Also, now that LaCie is selling 1 TeraByte hard drives,
LaCie lied: it's not really a 1 TB HD. It's four 250 GB ATA-133
drives in the one box. They're do an internal RAID-type array by
using some custom firmware (makes the box smell like
At 07:42 PM -0500 10/23/2004, CJ wrote:
Here is the web site for the correct units
http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html
so a giagbyte is a GiB, not a gb, GB. gB, or a Gb.
Good info there. Thx!
My understanding is that this is an interesting case of politics gone
wild. Their logic is
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