Re: When will 10.4 be included with new iBooks

Any machines purchased past the 12th of April can be upgraded to Tiger for a $10 shipping fee. I think that I saw this somewhere on Apple's web site last week. Steve On Apr 25, 2005, at 11:44 AM, KxUx wrote: Friday 6pm I would expect. As the Tiger gets delivered with new machines when it is

Re: When will 10.4 be included with new iBooks

Friday 6pm I would expect. As the Tiger gets delivered with new machines when it is released. But I would suggest to wait for few more months before purchase as Apple is known to release HW updates during the developers conference. --

When will 10.4 be included with new iBooks

Does anyone know when Apple will include 10.4 on new iBook purchases? I'd rather wait to buy one when it comes preinstalled or included as an upgrade. Thanks, Bill M -- G-Books is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drive

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

Speaking of BTO displays... "Apple Computer may be planning to offer PowerBooks with higher density displays, and may have intended to do so with its latest PowerBook offerings, tipsters tell AppleInsider." http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=886 Marcin Wichary e:\> [EMAIL PROTE

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 4:42 pm -0700, Bruce Johnson wrote: >>> You want to look at bloat, look closely at Dell (not just consumer but >>> consumer, small business, and enterprise) or even better yet HP. HP >>> has >>> dozens of different models. In fact, bloat at HP is so bad you can >>> find o

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

On Feb 16, 2005, at 8:12 AM, Marcin Wichary wrote: I am not that familiar with Apple's "middle years" in terms of offered products, but practically all the lines right now (iMac, iBook, Power Mac, PowerBook) feature many models (usually differing by screen size), each one available in one or mor

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

On Feb 16, 2005, at 9:02 AM, Tim Hodgson wrote: On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 3:54 pm -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You want to look at bloat, look closely at Dell (not just consumer but consumer, small business, and enterprise) or even better yet HP. HP has dozens of different models. In fact, bloat

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

On 2/16/05 10:12 AM, "Marcin Wichary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Then neither will the profitability. IBM has been losing GOBS of money >> doing things this way. >> >> This is why one of the first things Steve Jobs did when he came back >> to Apple was reduce the model line to 4. The complexit

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 3:54 pm -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >You want to look at bloat, look closely at Dell (not just consumer but >consumer, small business, and enterprise) or even better yet HP. HP has >dozens of different models. In fact, bloat at HP is so bad you can find one >basic compu

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

Then neither will the profitability. IBM has been losing GOBS of money doing things this way. This is why one of the first things Steve Jobs did when he came back to Apple was reduce the model line to 4. The complexity's crept up, and now the model line is 5 again, but it's a rational 5. Well,

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

On Tuesday, February 15, 2005, at 01:01 PM, Andrew wrote: Then they got a very good deal, as the ThinkPad brand has SERIOUS equity. Hopefully, they maintain the same quality level (shouldn't be hard as they are already made in China) and keep the same philosophy. I know they also got the IBM de

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

On Tuesday, February 15, 2005, at 10:44 AM, Andrew F. wrote: Look at a high-end IBM ThinkPad, the T42 for example, and you find a build-to-order model that allows a choice of processors, screen size, networking and connectivity options, even options for embedded security and finger print readers.

OT - Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

Just looked it up. Lenova has a 5-year-license on the "Think" names, including ThinkPad, and that is renewable. Also, IBM will continue to sell the machine, only Lenovo will be the primary manufacturer (IBM owns an 18% stake in Lenovo. There will still be IBM ThinkPads for years to come, but

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

On 15 Feb 2005 at 20:41, Marcin Wichary wrote: > > I think they kept the ThinkPad division, not sure. Anyway, ThinkPads > > have > > been made in China for the last four years, so I suspect nothing will > > change > > other than the location of the headquarters. > > I believe they sold the who

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

I think they kept the ThinkPad division, not sure. Anyway, ThinkPads have been made in China for the last four years, so I suspect nothing will change other than the location of the headquarters. I believe they sold the whole thing, and Lenovo can use ThinkPad brand for five years to come.

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

I think they kept the ThinkPad division, not sure. Anyway, ThinkPads have been made in China for the last four years, so I suspect nothing will change other than the location of the headquarters. ThinkPads have always been profitable, but my take is that IBM wants to sell eCommerce solutions, whi

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

On 15/02/05 12:44, "Andrew F." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's not a fair comparison, Dell's laptops are generic Taiwan models with > the Dell brand. Look at a high-end IBM ThinkPad, the T42 for example, and > you find a build-to-order model that allows a choice of processors, screen > size,

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

That's not a fair comparison, Dell's laptops are generic Taiwan models with the Dell brand. Look at a high-end IBM ThinkPad, the T42 for example, and you find a build-to-order model that allows a choice of processors, screen size, networking and connectivity options, even options for embedded secu

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

Re. BTO Compare a PowerBook to a Dell Laptop!! At Dell you can configure your laptop just about any way you want and it is designed around this concept, while the PowerBook is designed the way all good Macs have always been designed, to be the way the design guys thought best, and so far it's obvio

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

The expense is not going to be that high, since Apple can mass produce. As I said before, I'd pay extra just to have a BTO for the features I need. What would be nice is dual expansion bays and ports on the back. Not asking for too much, is it? With today's technology, third party companies

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

On Feb 13, 2005, at 8:20 PM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: At 4:10 PM -0800 2/13/05, Zoltan Batiz wrote: Who cares about cost. . . Apple, if they want to stay in the portable computer business. The PowerBooks are already very more expensive than a PC notebook (and worth every penny, IMO) and Apple can

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

At 4:10 PM -0800 2/13/05, Zoltan Batiz wrote: Who cares about cost. . . Apple, if they want to stay in the portable computer business. The PowerBooks are already very more expensive than a PC notebook (and worth every penny, IMO) and Apple can't depend on us to buy a new one every six months to

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

From: Zoltan Batiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On the comment of cost. . .I wasn't talking about the end product cost, I was talking about manufacturing cost that Apple would have to shell out, hence the remark to how much $$ they have made on iPod/iTunes Music Store just in the last year. I've got one

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

On Feb 13, 2005, at 4:46 PM, Larry le Mac wrote: From: Zoltan Batiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Some say the space is for speakers, etc. Please; look at other PB's, like the Pismo. Uh, yeah, but LISTEN to the AlBooks ... --- A lot of my clients comment on how "sexy" my Pismo is. It's almost too tempting

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

From: Zoltan Batiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Some say the space is for speakers, etc. Please; look at other PB's, like the Pismo. Uh, yeah, but LISTEN to the AlBooks ... --- A lot of my clients comment on how "sexy" my Pismo is. It's almost too tempting to comment... --- Apple should offer different la

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

Boy did I wake up this list with this thread! As far as my comments on poorly designed keyboard on the 17", I meant that Apple was trying to promote the 17" as not only a portable computer, but a viable replacement for a desktop computer. On that note, I felt they wasted space on the sides of

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 9:53 pm +0100, Larry le Mac wrote: >The AlBook's hinges among the best, nah, the best I've seen. As Mao said of the French Revolution, "too early to say" :) -- G-Books is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | R

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

From: John McGibney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The only complaint I have about port placement is that there is one USB port on each side & not together. One of the coolest features IMO and experience, suits me! Larry _ Express yourself insta

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

From: "Tim Hodgson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> But given the screen hinge design, it's hard to see what they could do... Shows they've learned something from the TiBook hinges, and G3s for that matter. The AlBook's hinges among the best, nah, the best I've seen. Larry

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

It is also probably the best keyboard that Apple has ever put on a laptop. Actually, it may be the best that ANYONE has ever put on a laptop, with only IBM ThinkPads giving it any real competition. I think looking back, the best-feeling keyboard (nice action, few typos, high speed) was on my

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

The 12" is really better in this area, which ALL ports on the left, and only the optical drive slot on the right. Andrew On 13 Feb 2005 at 10:55, John McGibney wrote: > > On 2/12/05 11:12 PM, "Zoltan Batiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> I'm greedy > >> when it comes to screen real-esta

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

For actually using in multiple locations and the frequent set-up and take-down that entails, Apple's current design is about the best I've come across. I especially like the slot-loading drives (side mounted like on the 12" please) which is just the best when using the computer anyplace OTHE

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, Marcin Wichary wrote: > It's a notebook. I would presume most people take it outside on daily > basis. I know I do and if you ask me, thumbs up for side ports. > Couldn't live without them now. Really? Guess that makes you on eof the 'living dead' for the past three years or

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

Gee, we're what, nearly 15 years into the PowerBook revolution and still arguing about where the ports go. I can understand this to a degree. Practical people argue that the ports belong on the side where they are conveniently accessed. Neat freaks argue that ports belong in back out of sight. (G

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

> On 2/12/05 11:12 PM, "Zoltan Batiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'm greedy >> when it comes to screen real-estate, so I always have two monitors. >> The 17" didn't appeal to me due to the poorly designed keyboard. I >> couldn't believe that Apple never considered making the worlds first >>

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

On 2/12/05 11:12 PM, "Zoltan Batiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm greedy > when it comes to screen real-estate, so I always have two monitors. > The 17" didn't appeal to me due to the poorly designed keyboard. I > couldn't believe that Apple never considered making the worlds first > laptop t

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 4:12 am -0800, Zoltan Batiz wrote: > I was about the purchase the new 15" PowerBook with the SuperDrive. >Everything was a go. . . except for one little hardware feature I >noticed at the last minute. All of the connectivity ports for the new >PB's are on the sid

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

FireWire drive so I can just stay sitting and easily plug and unplug those... Not to mention my friend that while trying to figure out where the serial port was (well it was 1994 and the Mac a PB 160 and the ADB and serial where very similar) felt over the desk and broke the screen... I was the

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

From: Zoltan Batiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well, for the most part, I agree with you Andrew as far as access goes. But, then I have two USB powered hubs and two Firewire hubs as well. I hardly ever have to give my Pismo a "reach around" unless I'm taking it with me out in the field. Fine but the P

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

From: Zoltan Batiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The 17" didn't appeal to me due to the poorly designed keyboard. Uh ?! It has the smae keyboard as the 12" and the 15", full size, and the best PowerBook keyboard ever made!! IMO. I have a 12" and a 15" Alu. --- not to mention ports on the side. So that you d

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

Well, for the most part, I agree with you Andrew as far as access goes. But, then I have two USB powered hubs and two Firewire hubs as well. I hardly ever have to give my Pismo a "reach around" unless I'm taking it with me out in the field. It's a notebook. I would presume most people take it

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

on 12/02/05 23:44, Zoltan Batiz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Feb 12, 2005, at 8:28 PM, Andrew F. wrote: > >> I see good and bad to having the ports on the side. Having just sold >> my >> Pismo (and still having a Lombard in the family, not to mention a >> ThinkPad) >> I do like the rear-moun

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

I use mine mostly as a portable (hence choosing the 12" over the 15 or 17), and rarely plug anything in at all, except for my iPod, camera or AC power. I never really got the whole "desktop replacement" thing. If I want to work at my desk, that's what my desktop Power Mac is for, which easily play

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

On Feb 12, 2005, at 8:28 PM, Andrew F. wrote: I see good and bad to having the ports on the side. Having just sold my Pismo (and still having a Lombard in the family, not to mention a ThinkPad) I do like the rear-mounted ports when sitting at a desk with stuff plugged in. However, when actuall

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

on 12/02/05 23:12, Zoltan Batiz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello all, > > Just wanted to share this little tid-bit. . . > > I was about the purchase the new 15" PowerBook with the SuperDrive. > Everything was a go. . . except for one little hardware feature I > noticed at the last minute. Al

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

I see good and bad to having the ports on the side. Having just sold my Pismo (and still having a Lombard in the family, not to mention a ThinkPad) I do like the rear-mounted ports when sitting at a desk with stuff plugged in. However, when actually plugging something in, like my iPod, camera o

New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

Hello all, Just wanted to share this little tid-bit. . . I was about the purchase the new 15" PowerBook with the SuperDrive. Everything was a go. . . except for one little hardware feature I noticed at the last minute. All of the connectivity ports for the new PB's are on the side, like most

New iBooks

few months ago that there would be new iBooks at the end of october or beginning of november with a minor speed bump and maybe one or two added features. Sure enough, this morning Apple announced new iBooks, just as I expected. Changes are as follows: 14" 1.33 GHz vs old 1.2

Re: new ibooks soon?

lBook. This will hopefuly translate to even longer battery life. > Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:42:40 -0500 > From: Kent Wieland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: new ibooks soon? > Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Has anyone heard a date for revised Ibooks? I'm cons

Re: new ibooks soon?

On Saturday, January 25, 2003, at 12:33 AM, wappling wrote: > Re; the most recent changes were just before Christmas,whats out now is > current for awhile,whether they will make additional changes in the g3 > i-books or-g4 PB line-up or intro the g5 next?purely a guess on our > part.there is neve

Re: new ibooks soon?

Re; the most recent changes were just before Christmas,whats out now is current for awhile,whether they will make additional changes in the g3 i-books or-g4 PB line-up or intro the g5 next?purely a guess on our part.there is never a good time to buy a computer,but as it stands for the moment a tric

Re: new ibooks soon?

on 1/24/03 8:54 PM, Andrew Johnson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I don't think that's a very safe statement given the 2 month > turn-around between the 1GHz PowerBook 15" and the new AlBooks. The > general feeling I get is that Apple wants this to be a very big year, > and that might mean that all

Re: new ibooks soon?

>> They just bumped them in November. Usually Apple does a minimum 6 >> month >> cycle, I think, between new releases. FWIW, I'm very pleased with my >> 800 MHz 12" combo drive. I applied the monitor- spanning hack and it >> is >> just the perfect 'Book for me. >> >> dave >> > I don't think that'

Re: new ibooks soon?

On Friday, January 24, 2003, at 01:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Friday, January 24, 2003, at 07:42 AM, Kent Wieland wrote: > >> Has anyone heard a date for revised Ibooks? I'm considering picking >> one up >> but I don't want to jump the gun if speedbumped, or perhaps even >> G4-based,

Re: new ibooks soon?

On Friday, January 24, 2003, at 07:42 AM, Kent Wieland wrote: > Has anyone heard a date for revised Ibooks? I'm considering picking > one up > but I don't want to jump the gun if speedbumped, or perhaps even > G4-based, > Ibooks are on the way. > They just bumped them in November. Usually Ap

Re: new ibooks soon?

>> Has anyone heard a date for revised Ibooks? I'm considering picking >> one up >> but I don't want to jump the gun if speedbumped, or perhaps even >> G4-based, >> Ibooks are on the way. >> > > I doubt we'll see anything soon. I can't see them getting faster and > with > the release of the 12"

Re: new ibooks soon?

Kent Wieland on 1/24/03 10:42 AM wrote: > Has anyone heard a date for revised Ibooks? I'm considering picking one up > but I don't want to jump the gun if speedbumped, or perhaps even G4-based, > Ibooks are on the way. > I doubt we'll see anything soon. I can't see them getting faster and with

new ibooks soon?

Has anyone heard a date for revised Ibooks? I'm considering picking one up but I don't want to jump the gun if speedbumped, or perhaps even G4-based, Ibooks are on the way. Thanks, Kent [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- G-Books is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp:

New iBooks!

New iBooks are on Apple's site this morning. 4 existing configs. 12-inch 600MHz G3/128MB RAM/20GB hard drive/CDROM -- $1,199 700MHz G3/128MB RAM/20GB hard drive/combo -- $1,499 14-inch 700MHz G3/256MB RAM/30GB hard drive/CDROM -- $1,649 700MHz G3/256MB RAM/30GB hard drive/combo -- $