Re: BW G3 as music server

2012-05-02 Thread Steven
Thanks a lot for the tips, Bruce. I will see what I can do. On May 1, 8:53 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On May 1, 2012, at 2:33 AM, Steven wrote: I can place it out of sight with space for a monitor and run a cable to the stereo. I am running OS9 and was planning on

Re: BW G3 as music server

2012-05-02 Thread t...@io.com
On May 1, 4:33 am, Steven schultz...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I've been trying to figure out how I could use my BW G3/450 since upgrading to an iMac. I really don't want to get rid of it. I thought that using it as a music server in the living room would be a good idea. I can place

BW G3 as music server

2012-05-01 Thread Steven
Hello all, I've been trying to figure out how I could use my BW G3/450 since upgrading to an iMac. I really don't want to get rid of it. I thought that using it as a music server in the living room would be a good idea. I can place it out of sight with space for a monitor and run a cable

Re: BW G3 as music server

2012-05-01 Thread Bruce Johnson
On May 1, 2012, at 2:33 AM, Steven wrote: I can place it out of sight with space for a monitor and run a cable to the stereo. I am running OS9 and was planning on using iTunes. I wanted to ask the group if there were more elegant ways of doing this or maybe a better way to use the old girl.

Re: Best Linux for a BW G3?

2011-12-29 Thread broosg
Has he tried MintPPC? I have that running on a BW G3 with an ATI 9200 video card and a G4 accelerator so it seams to handle odd hardware pretty well. It is based on Ubuntu 10, so pretty up to date. Bruce - Original Message - From: Barry Levine barrylev...@norwoodlight.com To: g3-5

Best Linux for a BW G3?

2011-12-24 Thread Barry Levine
Hi Listers, My son the Linux maven, has been trying various distros on a BW G3. His main complaint has been a problem with video card driver functionality (he says it's a Rage 128 card). Any wisdom here for him? Thanks Barry -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group

Re: Best Linux for a BW G3?

2011-12-24 Thread Tina K.
On 2011/12/24 13:15, Barry Levine so eloquently wrote: My son the Linux maven, has been trying various distros on a BW G3. His main complaint has been a problem with video card driver functionality (he says it's a Rage 128 card). Any wisdom here for him? There's a lot of good support

Re: Best Linux for a BW G3?

2011-12-24 Thread Barry Levine
Thanks for the tips, everyone. Barry -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at

Re: BW G3 Freezes - thanks for the suggestions.

2011-09-11 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: BW G3 Freezes - thanks for the suggestions. Date:Sunday, 11. September 2011 From:Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com On any processor, IBM or otherwise it is recommended to reapply thermal paste

Re: BW G3 Freezes - thanks for the suggestions.

2011-09-11 Thread Alexander Gomes
A little bit of thermal paste can go a long way. It does make a huge difference when it comes to cooling. Now, the G3's are perfectly fine without it but, it will ease anyone's mind when it comes to cooling if they may be worried about air flow through the case. -- You received this message

Re: BW G3 Freezes

2011-09-11 Thread TRGPN WebMaster
If there's a heatsink use the paste. It's silliness not to. --- On Sat, 9/10/11, g3-5-list@googlegroups.com g3-5-list@googlegroups.com wrote: On Sep 8, 3:24 pm, Alexander Gomes alexcomputersolut...@gmail.com wrote: If you take the heat sink off, you HAVE to reapply the thermal paste. It

Re: BW G3 Freezes

2011-09-11 Thread Alexander Gomes
Try openoffice for PPC. If the problems stop then there you go. I'd still try changing the IDE cables first. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at

Re: BW G3 Freezes

2011-09-11 Thread Barry Levine
From: Geke gevangaste...@googlemail.com Reply-To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 11:54:17 -0700 (PDT) To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: BW G3 Freezes Freezes occur usually while entering text into a FMPro field, but can also occur while entering

Re: BW G3 Freezes - thanks for the suggestions.

2011-09-10 Thread Alexander Gomes
On any processor, IBM or otherwise it is recommended to reapply thermal paste after removing the heatsink. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at

Re: BW G3 Freezes - thanks for the suggestions.

2011-09-10 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: BW G3 Freezes - thanks for the suggestions. Date:Saturday, 10. September 2011 From:Alexander Gomes alexcomputersolut...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com On any processor, IBM or otherwise it is recommended to reapply

Re: BW G3 Freezes - thanks for the suggestions.

2011-09-10 Thread Tina K.
On 2011/09/10 12:19, Mac User #330250 so eloquently wrote: -- Original message -- Subject: Re: BW G3 Freezes - thanks for the suggestions. Date:Saturday, 10. September 2011 From:Alexander Gomesalexcomputersolut...@gmail.com To:g3-5-list@googlegroups.com On any

Re: BW G3 Freezes - thanks for the suggestions.

2011-09-09 Thread ah...clem
On Sep 8, 3:24 pm, Alexander Gomes alexcomputersolut...@gmail.com wrote: If you take the heat sink off, you HAVE to reapply the thermal paste. It isn't an option. on a G3? bull! weapons grade baloneyium! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those

Re: BW G3 freezes

2011-09-08 Thread Wayne Stewart
Usually when I get freezes it ends up being a faulty RAM strip. Have you tested the RAM or tried swapping out strips? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at

Re: BW G3 freezes

2011-09-08 Thread Charles Lenington
On 9/7/11 7:58 PM, Barry Levine wrote: Hello I'd appreciate any suggestions re almost daily freezes. Only occurs 1-2x per day, but that's enough! Another thought: Make sure case fan(s) is clean and working. And maybe replace heat paste on processor. -- You received this message because

BW G3 Freezes - thanks for the suggestions.

2011-09-08 Thread Barry Levine
Topic: BW G3 freezes http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/t/b3aea5152984383b Hello I'd appreciate any suggestions re almost daily freezes. Only occurs 1-2x per day, but that's enough! I run my office on a BW G3 450mhz, 512mb RAM, rev 2 (IDE controller chip ends in 402), OS 9.2.2

Re: BW G3 freezes

2011-09-08 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:58 PM, Barry Levine wrote: It could be unrelated, but I've got 2 keyboards and 2 trackballs on the ADB chain, and probably a longer run of cable than is recommended (computer is the other side of an office wall, with monitors and keyboards/trackballs on either side. I

Re: BW G3 freezes

2011-09-08 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 8-09-2011 1:58, Barry Levine ha scritto: I'd appreciate any suggestions re almost daily freezes. Only occurs 1-2x per day, but that's enough! Apart from the ADB-related problem, I'd say it could be the Ram or the HD. You already stated you have some tool for memory checking.

Re: BW G3 Freezes - thanks for the suggestions.

2011-09-08 Thread Alexander Gomes
If you take the heat sink off, you HAVE to reapply the thermal paste. It isn't an option. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at

Re: BW G3 freezes

2011-09-08 Thread turn
This was my thought also. Be sure to use a very limited amount of paste if you do repaste it. Please let us know what you do find might be the problem. (The long ADB cabling issue sounds problematic also.) On Sep 8, 5:25 am, Charles Lenington macso...@brightok.net wrote: On 9/7/11 7:58 PM,

Re: BW G3 freezes

2011-09-08 Thread Barry Levine
on 9/8/11 11:10 AM, Bruce Johnson at john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:58 PM, Barry Levine wrote: It could be unrelated, but I've got 2 keyboards and 2 trackballs on the ADB chain, and probably a longer run of cable than is recommended (computer is the other side of

Re: BW G3 freezes

2011-09-08 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sep 8, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Barry Levine wrote: Why are you using ADB devices instead of USB? I had the ADB devices that I liked (nice compact keyboard II's and various trackballs), and my basic philosophy is to use what I have that works. But switching to at least one USB

BW G3 freezes

2011-09-07 Thread Barry Levine
Hello I'd appreciate any suggestions re almost daily freezes. Only occurs 1-2x per day, but that's enough! I run my office on a BW G3 450mhz, 512mb RAM, rev 2 (IDE controller chip ends in 402), OS 9.2.2; 30GB maxtor on drive 0 (startup drive), and 20GB drive on drive 1, another in the zip slot

Re: BW G3 freezes

2011-09-07 Thread peterhaas
I run my office on a BW G3 450mhz, 512mb RAM, rev 2 (IDE controller chip ends in 402), OS 9.2.2; 30GB maxtor on drive 0 (startup drive), and 20GB drive on drive 1, another in the zip slot. I've tried just having a 2nd HD in the zip slot, and not using IDE1, but get freezes anyway. I've

Re: BW G3 freezes

2011-09-07 Thread Alexander Gomes
If you haven't, have you tried changing the IDE cable? First thing that should be tried. Regardless if you've tried both master and slave, try a new cable. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular

Re: BW G3 freezes

2011-09-07 Thread Charles Lenington
On 9/7/11 7:58 PM, Barry Levine wrote: Hello I'd appreciate any suggestions re almost daily freezes. Only occurs 1-2x per day, but that's enough! I run my office on a BW G3 450mhz, 512mb RAM, More ram will help, remember Data files can get big thus requiring more ram. PC 100 can be found

Re: BW G3 freezes

2011-09-07 Thread peterhaas
If you haven't, have you tried changing the IDE cable? First thing that should be tried. Regardless if you've tried both master and slave, try a new cable. Good point. The old 40-pin/40-wire IDE cables had #28 AWG stranded wire conductors which were pretty much immune to breaking. The new

BW G3

2010-12-08 Thread applewho
I have BW G3, rev1, , it seems that the motherboard is good because when turned on the light come on on the motherboard and it chimes. It has a SCSI board installed on it, ATA/133 PCI card installed, and ati graphics card. There are 4 memory cards installed. Problem: HDs. I have a few HDs laying

Re: BW G3

2010-12-08 Thread Gus
. Gus. On Dec 8, 4:56 pm, applewho queel...@yahoo.com wrote: I have BW G3, rev1, , it seems that the motherboard is good because when turned on the light come on on the motherboard and it chimes. It has a SCSI board installed on it, ATA/133 PCI card installed, and ati graphics card. There are 4

Re: BW G3

2010-12-08 Thread Arnel Tuazon
On 08/12/10 5:56 PM, applewho queel...@yahoo.com wrote: I have BW G3, rev1, , it seems that the motherboard is good because when turned on the light come on on the motherboard and it chimes. It has a SCSI board installed on it, ATA/133 PCI card installed, and ati graphics card. There are 4

Re: BW G3

2010-12-08 Thread aqueelah steward
Subject: Re: BW G3 On 08/12/10 5:56 PM, applewho queel...@yahoo.com wrote: I have BW G3, rev1, , it seems that the motherboard is good because when turned on the light come on on the motherboard and it chimes. It has a SCSI board installed on it, ATA/133 PCI card installed, and ati graphics

Re: BW G3

2010-12-08 Thread Chuck
firewire mac machine you cannot boot from firewire. SCSI works nicely with the correct card and drive. On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 2:56 PM, applewho queel...@yahoo.com wrote: I have BW G3, rev1, , it seems that the motherboard is good because when turned on the light come on on the motherboard

Re: BW G3 - G4 Upgrade Revisited.

2010-05-25 Thread Larry Stotler
On May 23, 7:07 pm, Gus gusr...@comcast.net wrote: Well, after doing some considering... I think I will try to put the Yikes board in the BW.  I read around and ran across some poor soul that couldn't get his BW working after 2 Motherboard swaps and finally stuck a G3 in a Yikes board and put

Re: BW G3 - G4 Upgrade Revisited.

2010-05-25 Thread Gus
I have gone through the memory and replaced all of it. I have replaced the power supply when it went out. All that is left in the case is the G3 Zif, the Motherboard and the graphics card (reported as a ATY,Rage128y) So its down to one of those three.. the panics give nothing consistent and

Re: e: Do you need a ROM Patch for BW G3 if G4 Zif is installed?

2010-05-24 Thread Gus
OWC has one.. heard it was better than other.. I never tried any of them so I can't say http://eshop.macsales.com/Tech/FTP/newertech/BWG4Enabler.hqx -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus

Re: BW G3 - G4 Upgrade Revisited.

2010-05-23 Thread Mike Linnett
I noticed the Yikes didn't have a ADB Bus so I would have to replace my keyboard and mouse (which I really like). But I can learn to live without Basically, any USB KB and Mouse will work with a G4 Mac. I am currently using (please forgive me) a Dell KB and MS wireless mouse with

Re: BW G3 - G4 Upgrade Revisited.

2010-05-23 Thread Arnel Tuazon
On 22/05/10 7:24 PM, Gus gusr...@comcast.net wrote: I was directed to a web site that pointed out that you had to hobble the bus speed on the G3 in order to use the Yikes G4 processor in it. As someone noted, hobbling the bus speed was only for those processors that were 700+ MHz. I believe

Re: Do you need a ROM Patch for BW G3 if G4 Zif is installed?

2010-05-23 Thread Dan
At 4:05 PM -0700 5/22/2010, Gus wrote: Why did the bus Speed have to be reduced? I thought the yikes had a 100 mhz bus speed??? Bus speed is a ratio of processor speed. An 800 MHz G4 would leave the bus at 100 MHz, I believe. For normal work flow, the faster processor is better - even tho

Re: Do you need a ROM Patch for BW G3 if G4 Zif is installed?

2010-05-23 Thread Bruce Johnson
On May 21, 2010, at 6:06 PM, Gus wrote: I am considering putting a G4 zif into my G3 BW. I saw on some upgrade sites that a software patch (ROM Patch) was needed. Depending on which card was installed each vendor had its own patch. If I happen to find a zif from a G4 Yikes, would I still

Re: Do you need a ROM Patch for BW G3 if G4 Zif is installed?

2010-05-23 Thread John Ruschmeyer
Reducing the bus speed is only required for some of the higher speed (i.e., 800mhz) third-party upgrades. It's actually the same for G3 and G4 upgrades at those speeds. Look at something like a 1Ghz G3 upgrade for for information. Now... For a simple upgrade like swapping in a Yikes! G4 into a

Re: BW G3 - G4 Upgrade Revisited.

2010-05-23 Thread John Ruschmeyer
Belkin definitely made an ADB--USB adapter (I have one around here somewhere) and I'm pretty sure of at least another brand.) John On 5/23/10 3:33 AM, Mike Linnett mike.dogho...@googlemail.com wrote: I've heard mention of a USB to adb adapter too, search the list archives? I think it was

Re: BW G3 - G4 Upgrade Revisited.

2010-05-23 Thread ah...clem
WrongAgain Len lgers...@gmail.com wrote: a web site that pointed out that you had to hobble the bus speed on the G3 in order to use the Yikes G4 processor in it. Please cite the site. Both are 100MHz machines. The only upgrades to   the BW that hobble the bus speed are the very fast

Re: BW G3 - G4 Upgrade Revisited.

2010-05-23 Thread Gus
On May 22, 7:16 pm, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: On May 22, 2010, at 7:24 PM, Gus wrote: I was directed to a web site that pointed out that you had to hobble the bus speed on the G3 in order to use the Yikes G4 processor in it. Please cite the site. Both are 100MHz machines.

Re: BW G3 - G4 Upgrade Revisited.

2010-05-23 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: BW G3 - G4 Upgrade Revisited. Date:Sonntag 23 Mai 2010N From:Gus gusr...@comcast.net To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Thing is the mb in the g3 is twitchy anyway and needs replacement or the whole thing needs to be thrown

e: Do you need a ROM Patch for BW G3 if G4 Zif is installed?

2010-05-23 Thread Paul
Previously, at 8:36 am -0700 5/23/10, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 21, 2010, at 6:06 PM, Gus wrote: I am considering putting a G4 zif into my G3 BW. I saw on some upgrade sites that a software patch (ROM Patch) was needed. Depending on which card was installed each vendor had its own

Re: Do you need a ROM Patch for BW G3 if G4 Zif is installed?

2010-05-22 Thread John Ruschmeyer
You need a patch, even with the Zif from a Yikes! You do not need any additional software, however. The patch from any Vendor should work... Personally I prefer the NewerTech one (found it off a link from OWC's support page) which worked well for me when I did the same upgrade. John On 5/21/10

Re: Do you need a ROM Patch for BW G3 if G4 Zif is installed?

2010-05-22 Thread Peter Haas
On May 22, 2010, at 9:23 AM, John Ruschmeyer wrote: The patch from any Vendor should work... Personally I prefer the NewerTech one (found it off a link from OWC's support page) which worked well for me when I did the same upgrade. I also used the patch from OWC in order to transplant

Re: Do you need a ROM Patch for BW G3 if G4 Zif is installed?

2010-05-22 Thread Gus
Why did the bus Speed have to be reduced? I thought the yikes had a 100 mhz bus speed??? This is disconcerting. On May 22, 12:15 pm, Peter Haas peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: On May 22, 2010, at 9:23 AM, John Ruschmeyer wrote: The patch from any Vendor should work... Personally I prefer the  

BW G3 - G4 Upgrade Revisited.

2010-05-22 Thread Gus
G4 computer all together. Are there any drawbacks to using a yikes board in a BW G3 Case? I would think the power supply would be compatible. I noticed the Yikes didn't have a ADB Bus so I would have to replace my keyboard and mouse (which I really like). But I can learn to live without

Re: BW G3 - G4 Upgrade Revisited.

2010-05-22 Thread Kris Tilford
On May 22, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Gus wrote: Skip the whole upgrade process and invest in a low cost G4 computer I think this hit the nail-on-the-head. The BW and Yikes are hindered by PCI graphics. I believe the era of PCI Graphics Macs has effectively past unless you happen to already own a

Re: BW G3 - G4 Upgrade Revisited.

2010-05-22 Thread Len Gerstel
On May 22, 2010, at 7:24 PM, Gus wrote: I was directed to a web site that pointed out that you had to hobble the bus speed on the G3 in order to use the Yikes G4 processor in it. Please cite the site. Both are 100MHz machines. The only upgrades to the BW that hobble the bus speed are the

Do you need a ROM Patch for BW G3 if G4 Zif is installed?

2010-05-21 Thread Gus
I am considering putting a G4 zif into my G3 BW. I saw on some upgrade sites that a software patch (ROM Patch) was needed. Depending on which card was installed each vendor had its own patch. If I happen to find a zif from a G4 Yikes, would I still need a rom patch? Would one from the third

Re: BW G3 Rev 1: Main HD in Zip slot?

2010-04-12 Thread PAR
My last Mac was a BW R1. The controller was major heartburn. To get it to work at all, I had to keep going back to smaller harddrives. The largest one I could find that resulted in no corruption was an old 9 GB originally installed in a beige G3. I finally tracked down a new old stock Acard

Re: BW G3 Rev 1: Main HD in Zip slot?

2010-04-12 Thread Kasey Smith
On Apr 11, 9:44 am, Ruffin rufw...@gmail.com wrote: ... but having that slave hard drive in the zip slot being my boot drive? Let's go ahead and assume I don't care about hard drive speed at all. Anything wrong (or better?) with putting the HD on master and moving the optical drive to slave?

BW G3 Rev 1: Main HD in Zip slot?

2010-04-11 Thread Ruffin
I've got a Rev 1 BW I received for a song, and I'm a little confused about its hard drive controller issues. It seems, after some Googling around here and xlr8yourmac, like the slave on the fast controller is always bad news, and that occasionally even the single HD on that controller can become

Re: BW G3 Rev 1: Main HD in Zip slot?

2010-04-11 Thread John Musbach
On 4/11/10, Ruffin rufw...@gmail.com wrote: I do vaguely recall thinking that using Yellow Dog sidestepped some of the driver issues, but I can't find that now. you can download the latest cd version of yellowdog Linux here: http://ydl.oregonstate.edu/iso/yellowdog-5.0.2-20070711.iso latest

Problems with BW G3 after attempted G4 ugrade

2010-01-02 Thread John Ruschmeyer
Up until recently, I was happily using a BW G3 (rev 1, 400mhz) which had been upgraded with a Melco G3/500 and a flashed Radeon 7000 PCI, all running under 10.4.11. On a bit of a whim, I picked up a used Apple G4/350 CPU from ebay with the idea of installing it in the BW and trying to overclock

Re: Problems with BW G3 after attempted G4 ugrade

2010-01-02 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 10:21 AM, John Ruschmeyer jrusc...@gmail.com wrote: Up until recently, I was happily using a BW G3 (rev 1, 400mhz) which had been upgraded with a Melco G3/500 and a flashed Radeon 7000 PCI, all running under 10.4.11. On a bit of a whim, I picked up a used Apple G4/350

Airport for the BW G3

2009-12-28 Thread Robert Long
Hello guys and gals, is it possible to put an airport card or will it support any wi fi? I hope to use it on my airport network at home. Robert Long _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich

Re: Airport for the BW G3

2009-12-28 Thread Kris Tilford
On Dec 28, 2009, at 3:06 AM, Robert Long wrote: Hello guys and gals, is it possible to put an airport card or will it support any wi fi? I hope to use it on my airport network at home. Not enough information. What OS version? What Airport version? I'll give it a shot without the OS

Re: Airport for the BW G3

2009-12-28 Thread Andy
On Dec 28, 2009, at 3:06 AM, Robert Long wrote: Hello guys and gals, is it possible to put an airport card or will it support any wi fi? I hope to use it on my airport network at home. Not enough information. What OS version? What Airport version? I'll give it a shot without the OS

Re: Airport for the BW G3

2009-12-28 Thread John Martz
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Andy andy.the...@gmail.com wrote: Don't forget about Wireless Ethernet Bridges. Can be found in the UK for about 40GBP. You plug it into your Ethernet port and it connects to your wireless network. It will work with any Mac with an Ethernet connection. If you

Re: Airport for the BW G3

2009-12-28 Thread John Martz
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Robert Long texasche...@hotmail.com wrote: Hey John,  thanks, I am using a repeater with an ethernet opening for my wireless macbook pro and it works fine.  I am thinking of moving it closer to the BW G3 and connect by ethernet.  What do you think?? I'm

Re: 2.5 SATA Drive Needs 3.5 Bracket Converter For BW G3....

2009-04-26 Thread AHarmon
Yes, I have scoured the depths of hell looking for the right kind of drive caddy I want it does not quite exist... Brackets are easy enough. But I was hoping to find the same kind of 2.5~3.5 conversion that you can get with a 3.5~5 caddy conversion. I'll just have to either rough it, or

Re: 2.5 SATA Drive Needs 3.5 Bracket Converter For BW G3....

2009-04-25 Thread Ralph Green
Howdy, I know I never follow tinyurls. I don't know about you, so I'll follow up too. You need something like the following, at least. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=330324953628 This is an ebay auction for a brass adapter to allow you to physically install the

Re: Unstable upgraded BW G3...

2009-02-19 Thread Larry Stotler
On Feb 11, 7:20 pm, rtows...@aol.com wrote: And to my great relief, it's now running Tiger 10.4.11 flawlessly, albeit slower than it ran with the 450 CPU... I guess I naively thought that, since I was using a chip from the same (but speed-bumped) model, and it fit so nicely, that it

Re: Unstable upgraded BW G3...

2009-02-03 Thread dc
a 10K SCSI drive in (SATA and ATA cards, even used ones, are more expensive). On Feb 1, 11:20 am, Sandymac sandysdha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi - I recently upgraded a Rev 1 BW G3, replacing the original 300 mHz CPU with a 450 mHZ CPU from another BW. I reset the jumpers to the 450 settings. Then I

Re: Unstable upgraded BW G3...

2009-02-03 Thread Sandy Mitchell
-sound, though all other sound are fine. Thanks again, Sandy --- On Tue, 2/3/09, dc dbc...@verizon.net wrote: From: dc dbc...@verizon.net Subject: Re: Unstable upgraded BW G3... To: G3-5 List g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 5:34 AM Try the simplest thing first

Re: Unstable upgraded BW G3...

2009-02-03 Thread Dan
At 12:35 PM -0500 2/3/2009, Charles Davis wrote: On Feb 3, 2009, at 10:55 AM, Sandy Mitchell wrote: put the BW's original 300 mHz CPU back in, and reset the jumpers accordingly... And to my great relief, it's now running Tiger 10.4.11 flawlessly, Ok. Good. Now you know that some component not

Re: Firewire module in a BW G3

2009-02-03 Thread J.M.P.Hissel
On 03-02-2009 20:14, Dan, dantear...@gmail.com, wrote: I know the difference between a rev 1 and rev 2 SmurfTower involves the on-board IDE and Firewire chips. But does it also involve the Firewire daughter card? I have a rev 2 Smurf with dead Firewire. And a rev 1 that works. To

Unstable upgraded BW G3...

2009-02-01 Thread Sandymac
Hi - I recently upgraded a Rev 1 BW G3, replacing the original 300 mHz CPU with a 450 mHZ CPU from another BW. I reset the jumpers to the 450 settings. Then I did a clean install of Tiger 10.4 on the original 6 GB, which took several tries but finally got done. Then I ran 'software update

Re: Unstable upgraded BW G3...

2009-02-01 Thread Kris Tilford
On Feb 1, 2009, at 10:20 AM, Sandymac wrote: I've tried restarting in 'safe' mode, but that makes no difference; it still hangs. And after about half a day of frequent restarts, I noticed that the startup tone/chime doesn't sound - but I still hear other sounds (like the crunching of the

Re: Unstable upgraded BW G3...

2009-02-01 Thread Dan
At 8:20 AM -0800 2/1/2009, Sandymac wrote: I recently upgraded a Rev 1 BW G3, replacing the original 300 mHz CPU with a 450 mHZ CPU from another BW. I reset the jumpers to the 450 settings. Yum. SmurfTower. Love 'em. Has the firmware been updated? If not, do so. Very important! Did you

Re: USB 2 on BW G3

2009-01-29 Thread Woody
-Original Message- From: David Stubblebine dstubb.myli...@gmail.com Sent: Jul 1, 2007 11:31 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: USB 2 on BW G3 On Jul 1, 2007, at 11:11 PM, Isaac Smith wrote: I recently added a Belkin USB 2 card to my processor-upgraded BW G3 tower

Re: USB 2 on BW G3

2009-01-29 Thread Steve R
At 5:25 PM -0500 1/29/09, Woody posted: -Original Message- From: David Stubblebine dstubb.myli...@gmail.com Sent: Jul 1, 2007 11:31 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: USB 2 on BW G3 On Jul 1, 2007, at 11:11 PM, Isaac Smith wrote: I recently added a Belkin USB 2 card

Re: USB 2 on BW G3

2009-01-29 Thread Michael Koch
Are you using OS 9 or OS X ? usb 2 does not work in OS 9; as far as I know On Jan 29, 2009, at 17:25, Woody wrote: -Original Message- From: David Stubblebine dstubb.myli...@gmail.com Sent: Jul 1, 2007 11:31 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: USB 2 on BW G3 On Jul

Re: BW G3 - Strange display problems running 10.4

2008-11-09 Thread insightinmind
On Nov 9, 2008, at 1:35 AM, joplinfan wrote: The HD verifies fine in Disk Utility... but it is noisy and overall just seems to run sluggish and slow. I'll replace it tomorrow and see what happens. Noisy and sluggish ... could imply what others suspect ... disk going bad. One of mine did

Re: BW G3 - Strange display problems running 10.4

2008-11-09 Thread Simon Royal
Iain. I have been trying to get hold of you for ages. Email me your address off list, I still owe you for the Lombard power adapter. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: BW G3 - Strange display problems

Re: BW G3 - Strange display problems running 10.4

2008-11-09 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 8:02 PM, joplinfan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Update... Problem was definitely a bad HD. Disk Utility kept saying the previous drive was fine, but a different drive took care of the problem. Been running the BW for a few hours without issue. Steve , glad you got it

BW G3 - Strange display problems running 10.4

2008-11-08 Thread joplinfan
Hi all, I have a BW G3 running 10.4 fairly well... but now and then it will exhibit strange video problems such as missing icons in the Applications and Utilities folders, reloading the desktop two or three times during startup, and no response when clicking Shutdown and Restart via the menu

Re: BW G3 - Strange display problems running 10.4

2008-11-08 Thread Kris Tilford
On Nov 8, 2008, at 10:37 PM, joplinfan wrote: I'm kind of thinking it could be the ATI Rage 128 video card or the HD, but not positive. No. It's not the Rage 128 video card, but you should try to replace it with at minimum a Radeon 7000. Then enable Quartz Extreme with PCI Extreme 3.1 and

Re: BW G3 - Strange display problems running 10.4

2008-11-08 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 11:37 PM, joplinfan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have a BW G3 running 10.4 fairly well... but now and then it will exhibit strange video problems such as missing icons in the Applications and Utilities folders, reloading the desktop two or three times during

Re: BW G3 - Strange display problems running 10.4

2008-11-08 Thread joplinfan
The HD verifies fine in Disk Utility... but it is noisy and overall just seems to run sluggish and slow. I'll replace it tomorrow and see what happens. Thanks to all for the replies! Steve --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are

BW G3 Firewire

2008-09-25 Thread Simon Royal
Hi. I know the blue and white G3 doesn't support target mode via firewire, but can it boot from firewire. I have the Tiger DVD restored to my firewire iPod which I use for fast installs, and wanted to install Tiger via this method on a blue and white G3. Simon --- www.simonroyal.co.uk and

Re: BW G3 Firewire

2008-09-25 Thread Charles Davis
and www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: BW G3 Firewire From: Charles Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 25/09/2008 15:23 On Sep 25, 2008, at 9:42 AM, Simon Royal wrote: Hi. I know the blue and white G3 doesn't support target mode via firewire, but can it boot