Brandon,
The tutorial really does do a fantastic job of starting you out. If that's
still confusing, though, perhaps you can ask specific questions here?
Ryan
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Sent: Saturda
Hi Damien,
The idea of handing someone a computer with a screen reader and a mouse
doesn't sound half bad to me. One of the most amazing things I've found
about using the iPhone is the very fact that you can use the touch screen to
find the positions of things.
For example, I have placed my setting
Hi Tom,
Liam is programming the games himself.
Ryan
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Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 8:39 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks
Hi Damien,
That's hard
Hmm. Not sure. Did you ever figure out the puzzle about the man looking
through the window who did exactly what you did to try to signal him? That
one took me a bit of time to realize.
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It was the first game that I played, also. That was the only game that I
played before I got an iPhone. I remember when I first got the gold nugget
to the building, I was pleased and excited for days. I kept telling myself
that I really didn't do anything, it was just a computer game. But that
wasn
Hi Dan,
Thanks for the information about the night jar. I had only heard them
referred to as an insect.
Paulette
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Behalf Of bpeterson2...@cableone.net
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 4:45 PM
To: G
Thanks for repeating what you said earlier. I hadn't read your first message
before I asked again. You repeated it so nicely, too. Smile.
Paulette
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Behalf Of Charles Rivard
Sent: Saturday, April 2
I just got the money reader app this morning. It's really cool! You hold a
bill up to the camera of the phone, hold it still for a few seconds and the
phone says the denomination.
Paulette
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Behalf
Thanks, Dark. I can't wait to look at these sites.
Paulette
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Behalf Of dark
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 11:46 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New member triple game troubl
Thanks for the chat information. I will check it out.
Paulette
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Behalf Of Charles Rivard
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 1:08 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Thursday's out of
damien iphones and other touch devices are not that bad. we just got
to learn to adapt and use the accessable ways to use the device. some
vi people really amuse me if they didnt make the touch screens
accessable you would wine and complain about that get over it
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On Apr 21, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Paulette Vickery wrote:
Hi Eleanor
Desiree, not sure who has been telling you BT keyboards are unreliable for
iDevices, but it's blatantly not true. :) I'm sure there are brands that may be
better than others but for myself, using the Apple BT keyboard, it's been
nothing but awesome to use!
As far as games not using keyboard inp
There really aren't that many gestures to learn. The touch aspect is what
takes getting used to. As for the braille displays, you do not need one,
but it is nice if you do have one. Sort of like whether you have an
automatic or manual transmission. Some people aren't comfortable with using
When I bought my IPhone, I was so excited. There would be all these
aps at my fingertips, from the completely necessary like barcode
scanning and GPS to completely insane, but I guess I was seeing too
much novelty in it. One thing you have to remember too, is that as
much as it would be nice to buy
For Damien: If he really wants to have a keyboard for an iPad, there
are wireless keyboards available that can be used to type in items like
search fields, addresses and the like. One of the folks in our company
has one and uses it with an iPad 2. It seems to work very well.
It seems to me
Hey, Damien.
One of the nice thing about the iPhone is that alot of old games are
being ported over to the mobile platform.
For exsample the old DOS games by Richard De Steno, have been put in a
game pack and now people can play those games with all the classic
sounds and gameplay.
The iPhone
Well, I will say that when I first got my iPhone I was slow at using
the keypad.
But I got the hang of it and now it only takes about half a minute to
call someone.
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Hi Damien,
Well, we're way past the point where devices with keyboards will be as
heavily marketed as they used to be. Unfortunately, what most people
are saying is true--the demand for touch screens is a lot higher than
the demand for buttons and keyboards. Just look at home appliances
that only u
Hi Paulette,
Here are two different but similar links which will take you to a page, upon
which is a link to apply for membership. Now, it may take you a day or two
to be accepted in to the group, however, be patient and you will be
rewarded.
http://www.groups.google.com/group/viphone/
http
Just wanted to throw out my two cents about the new up coming games for the
I phones.
Any chance for the rest of us to confirt the shoot game and the arory games
for we on our pc's?
Many Many Thanks.
Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states
"that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day o
I am hoping to get this game and give it a try, I use to like ADV when I played
it at school.
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This is only the first attempt. I don't doubt that in the future they'll be
able to be made even more accessible than they are now.
Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca!
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From: Damien Pendleton
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 3:
Hi Brian,
What I'm trying to say is, the very nature of a touch screen device makes it
seem rather inaccessible, no matter how many attempts and tweaks you make at
it. It'd be like giving a computer user a mouse, a screenreader, but no
keyboard. The fact is, blind people cannot see the screen,
I have had that same problem. It sometimes must hear your command again, I
think. Sometimes, it depends on the noise of the surroundings. It's a fun
game that I never completed when it was a DOS game. It was the first text
game I found for the PC.
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You can get Bluetooth keyboards for the iPhone, or there are also braille
displays that can be used to operate the iPhone through Bluetooth
technology. These, for the most part, eliminate the need for using the
touch screen. In the iPhone 4S, there is also SIRI, which is a system that
works o
I'd say that the fact that Apple attempted to develop a way to make touch
screens accessible is a big score in their favor, not an attempt to con the
law.
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Sent: Sat
Hi Brian,
Oh no, not at all. In fact, if Apple did business properly I may have also
moved on to IOS. I'm saying it's Apple's fault. Those who want to use IOS
and develop for IOS, I haven't a problem with. In fact, as I already
previously stated, I quite admire people who can adapt to such change
Hi Dark,
A really good text based adventure game for the iPhone is, Things That Go
Bump In The night. It is free in the Apple app store.
Paulette
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Behalf Of dark
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 12
Hi Mike,
Have you played A I adventure on your iPhone? It is the old Colossal cave
adventure game. I really like it, it is voice played, but the only problem I
have with it is that often it does not respond to my voice commands. That is
quite frustrating.
Paulette
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Fro
They are at
www.Out-Of-Sight.net
You sign up, at no charge, and install a little plug-in as a voice chat
client. You enter the desired chat room after logging in using the user
name and password you are given. Connect a microphone to your PC's sound
card. It's pretty easy, and fun.
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It's a game developed for the IOS platform. Never played it personally. Of
course I don't even think you can buy it outside the UK, at least you
couldn't when it first came out.
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From: Paul
Hi Phil,
>From what I understand, the only problem for that game for blind people is
that you can't tell where your asteroid is on the screen.
Paulette
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Behalf Of Phil Vlasak
Sent: Saturday, April
Hi Dan,
What is the Night Jar?
Paulette
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Behalf Of dan cook
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 11:44 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks
completely agreed Brian.
at first i
Hi Dark,
I am sorry about confusing you. I was mistaken about the link. Fred sent it,
not you. As to the front porch, someone posted something the other day about
specific times for certain interactive shows, I think, but I have no idea
how to get to them or where they are located. If you or anyon
Hi Brian,
It depends what buttons they are and how well they're designed. The only
device I've ever had buttons go is laptop keyboards. So I use externals. The
external I have used for the past 3 years now and not a single button has
gone. I've had my phone for 6 years, again, not one button ha
Hi Eleanor,
Thanks so much for the link. I will check it out. I am glad to find another
woman on the list. Smile.
Paulette
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Behalf Of Eleanor Robinson
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 11:33 AM
To: g
Hi Michael,
My point exactly. So, the solution is, why make a touch screen in the first
place? The sighted used to work with buttons, why not now? It'll be just the
same for them, and easier for us. That'll make things equal on all sides.
Regards,
Damien.
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From:
Hi Charles,
No it doesn't. But that's how much I've come to trust big companies these
days from years of experience of company's complete disregard and disrespect
for the disabled. And my experience with the IPhone just blew it for me.
Our kind are talking about adapting to the rest of the world
So basically you're saying that developers should forget developing for IOS
and focus only on Windows?
Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca!
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From: Damien Pendleton
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 2:23 PM
To: Gamers Discussion l
Agreed. Besides, unless I'm much mistaken there are protective cases for the
IPhone that turn it into a button device for those who need them. Nor are
they that expensive. All Liam and other game devs are doing by turning to
the IOS platform is trying to turn audio gaming into a multiplatform ra
Hi Charles,
Yes, I would agree with that, but with one difference. It can be just as
quick to use a keyboard as it can a mouse. Though in some ways I would agree
with your analogy as well. When it comes to sites that require use of the
mouse. Sites that are developed recently are classic exampl
Because it's been my experience that buttons eventually give out. I've had
that happen several times.
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From: Damien Pendleton
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 2:14 PM
To: Gamers Discussion li
Hi,
This kind of defeats the point of a touch screen. The point of a touch
screen is to not need buttons, and apple's done, in my opinion, an amazing
job of making it accessible. If you wanted them to have buttons just because
blind people can't, if only just slightly, use a touch screen as wel
Who are you replying to?
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From: Mike Maslo
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 2:09 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks
Wow an example of the thinking of some blind peop
I can see where that would be a problem. I myself haven't held or fired a
bow in at least fifteen years, although I'd love to get back into it.
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Sent: Saturday, April 2
Hi Brian,
Well I feel they've as good as done that, otherwise they would have given us
solid ground to work on. Yes, you could argue that the delay helps us not to
touch things accidentally, but why have that there in the first place when
you can have buttons that are separated, easy to find, a
Agreed. And if good games are developed for it then so much the better.
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From: Charles Rivard
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 1:56 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the to
I know. To think that touch screens are made accessible to some but not all
in order to get around the law doesn't make sense, does it?
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Wow an example of the thinking of some blind people's
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 21, 2012, at 3:02 PM, "Charles Rivard" wrote:
> Not so. The built-in screen reader tells you what you're highlighting. Your
> thinking would be like saying that a computer isn't accessible because we
> have to
Same here. I shot archery for 3 years with no sighted assistance. Couldn't
shoot outdoors because the sun's light overpowered the light I was aiming
at.
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Not so. The built-in screen reader tells you what you're highlighting.
Your thinking would be like saying that a computer isn't accessible because
we have to use a keyboard rather than the quick way that sighted people can
access stuff using the mouse. They can see what is on the screen and us
That's where you get a bluetooth keyboard. And there are plenty that are of
good quality and yet inexpensive. Or you do what you said ad stick to a
device that works for you. But accusing apple of conning the law by adding
accessibility to a touch screen device is illogical for reasons I mention
Dirty? Wow. I certainly don't see it as such. After all, if they hadn't
changed how the screen worked we would be constantly activating things by
accident anytime we so much as touched the screen. And I certainly don't see
it as conning the law, otherwise all they would have done was developed
I learned it through listening to podcasts and a book from
www.nbp.org
that takes you through learning to use the iPhone step by step.
When I was employed by the state of Oklahoma, they provide their employees
with cell phones, and they are iPhones. I figured, "Well, other blind
employees fo
WIll be looking forward to this game. I like Archery so will enjoy this.
Ian McNamara
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Hi Charles,
But how on earth do you know all this to start with? It's like you don't
just go on a PC for the first time and know how to do everything. That's why
I struggle so much with operating systems other than Windows, and even
specifically XP or below. I tried Linux and wanted to throw it
Hi Brian,
The thing is, they're only accessible because we've had to use dirty
workarounds to access things that sighted people can access quicker than we
can even use a computer. They can see which part of the screen they are
touching, they can see how to do all the moves right, so they've got
Hi all.
I have no problem with the touch screne interface however I do still prefer
a real keyboard for extensive typing both on my Droid4 and my Ipad.
As for mobile games, I saw a review of gaming on mobile devices on G4
recently and their consensus was that, with a few exceptions most games
The dragging and letting go to type I couldn't get the hang of personally.
But what I don't understand is how attempting to add accessibility to a
touch screen device could qualify as trying to con the law.
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also, you don't have to double tap, as you can drag your finger around
the screen and let go to type
therefore when dialing a number, if you know where the five is for
example, just press and let go. also the buttons arn't that close
together, so even though it takes a while to get used to, there
I wasn't impressed with the Adroid. But I've had my IPhone for nearly two
years and my IPod Touch for even longer and neither of their touch screens
sows any signs of giving out.
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Hi Damien,
Join the club! I also tried an IPhone and hated it. While I did
eventually get to the point where I could dial a number within a
reasonable amount of time (with a lot of trial and error, and it still
wasn't as fast as dialing a number with buttons, since you have to
tap, make sure it's t
If I could get an iPhone that used raised buttons or keys, I would get it.
However, I have no problem with the current iPhones 4S.
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Precisely. I could never go back to a push button phone, particularly not in
view of the fact that I'd have to pay extra for te screen reader or download
a free and, to be qite frank, less satisfactory alternative. As far as games
go I haven't yet found any games for mobile devices that really i
I think you're missing the point though. Touch screens are cheaper to make
and qite frankl last longer since eventually buttons will give out. My
laptop for instance is missing te Tab key. Besides, now tat it's been proven
that touch screens CAN be made accessible I can see a big leap forward in
It's a learning curve for sure, but I've managed it. Think of the touch
screen like operating a PC. The first time you touch something, it is
highlighted. Double tap on the screen and it is activated. Touching
different areas of the screen once will not activate them, it's like
arrowing to
Ah, excuse my last confused message, that makes a little more sense :D.
However to make this message have some sort of point, here are some good
sites to find out about audiogames.
First off, www.audiogames.net. this has a database of gamef audio and other
accessible games, most for pc though
Ask him. I don't know. (grin)
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To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 7:19 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] LWorks
Hey,
If LWorks is making IOS games, does that
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Hi Dark,
If I were to go into my deepest thoughts about touch screen, I'd have to ban
myself for profanity. Trust it to say, I hate them with a passion and think
that adding voiceover to a touch screen device is just another corrupt
twisted pro sighted business way of conning the law and gettin
It's a voice chat community. Connect a mike to your PC, sign up free of
charge and receive a user name and password, then, if necessary, install the
plug-in chat client, and join in on the fun. The site is at
www.Out-Of-Sight.net
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I must admit I'm planning on an Iphone myself when my laptop busts, since
these days I just need something portable, and there are more and more
really awsom sounding games for it.
I understand there will be a learning curve, but actually I will probably
use games to help me with that, for ins
Wow
I love my iPhone And would never go to Symbian phone again
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 21, 2012, at 11:18 AM, "Damien Pendleton"
wrote:
> Hi Karl,
> I've heard a lot of good things about it, hence the reason I thought I'd give
> it a go. But as far as I'm concerned, it's nothing but a str
Hi Phil,
That actually sounds rather neat. Now if the whole device worked like that I
might actually reconsider. Although I hope it wouldn't interfere with
Voiceover like voice activation on Simbian interferes with Talks.
Wow, a game that works from vocal feedback. I could sit and play games lik
Hi Karl,
I've heard a lot of good things about it, hence the reason I thought I'd
give it a go. But as far as I'm concerned, it's nothing but a strenuous
tedious ballache. It took me over five minutes to dial a phone number, and I
didn't even know how to access anything on it, so I dread to thi
I must agree with the others here that the iPhone is an awesome device. As
regards games for Symbian, nokia has abandoned it for Windows phone 7, so
Symbian is effectively dead as far as I know. For this reason I don't think
anything new will be produced for it.
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 21,
Hi Dan,
I think the future of IOS games is voice control. Rather than touching the
phone you speak to it.
Here is a small example:
Labgoo and Yosi Taguri's Pah. A crazy voice-controlled game .
Pah version 1.2, a classic sidescroller for iOS, with one big twist.
Your goal is to destroy the astero
completely agreed Brian.
at first i thought "me? use an iphone? never."
however i've had this one since august 2011 minus a couple months due
to a problem with the phone and i don't know how i'd ever go back now.
its just so simple in ways i cant really describe.
back on topic, I believe that ios
Hi Paulette.
What front porch? and what link?
I'm a little confused I'm afraid since I didn't post any links in my
message.
All the best,
DArk.
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To: "'Gamers Discussion list'"
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyss
Hi Paulette - Welcome. In your intro you mentioned that you have a PC
as well as an iPhone. If you want to learn more about where to go for
game information for the PC, go to www.7128.com We have a list of the
top websites for gamers who are blind. This list is updated every year
and you ca
Hi. I have a problem unstanding bgt or otherwise known as the blastbay
toolkit. I have been reading code from games by bgt, and reading the
tutorials, but I can't seem to understand it. Can someone help me
understand it from the very basics to the more advanced language?
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Hi Fred,
I tried to go to this link:
www.viphone+subscr...@googlegroups.com
I don't think that anything happened. It looked just like I was still on
Google. Can you help? Thanks.
Paulette
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Hi Fred,
Sorry, I accidentally sent a message meant for you to Dark.
Thanks so much for the link. I will give it a try and if I have any problems
I will let you know.
Paulette
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Behalf Of fred olve
Hello Dark,
Thanks so much for your post. I will try that link and if I have any
problems I will let you know. Could you, or someone else who knows, please
tell me more about what was meant by the list of activities taking place on
the front porch and elsewhere? They sounded interesting. Thanks.
I had the same doubts about the IPhone, but after having and using an IPod
Touch for six months before getting an IPhone I managed to get a ead start
on learning to use the system. Now I've had my IPhone for almost two years
and I could never go back.
Are you threatening me? I am the great C
Hi Thomas,
Well, if there are going to be games for the mobile market, I'd love to see
some for Nokia devices running Simbian. More and more games are coming out
for IOS devices and it'd be nice to see some for devices that are more
accessible.
Sure, Apple try and do the voiceover app, but when
Hi Damien,
That's hard to say. For one thing there are developers who write iOS
games etc on a contract basis and its possible Liam is simply hiring
someone to develop the games for him. In a case like that he can keep
producing games for LWorks without actively developing games himself.
Of
Hello, NNSTUDIOS.
I was wondering if I could get a copy of the Pro Fighting game that you made?
Thanks!
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Hey, I wonder that myself.
I also would like to know about Super Egg Hunt Plus how I can get a
copy of the game?
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ios games are going to be simpler though the windows projects will and can be,
ore complex i am sure, the archery game i'd complete first go no problems
On 21 Apr 2012, at 13:19, Damien Pendleton wrote:
> Hey,
> If LWorks is making IOS games, does that mean that there's a chance he may
> come b
Hey,
If LWorks is making IOS games, does that mean that there's a chance he may come
back to us loyal Windows users?
Cheers.
Damien.
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Hi Folks,
I'm re-posting something from the L-works site:
LWorks announces audio Archery for IOS
Audio archery brings archery to your Iphone. Use only your ears and your
reflexes to shoot targets. The game is entirely auditory, so there are no
pictures
or icons. You will hear a target move fr
Welcome, Paulette, here is a subscribe link which may work for you to be
able to subscribe to a VI phones group. You might also go to
http://www.applevis.com and have a look around there, lots of interesting
stuff. Also, very shortly an updated book Getting Started with the Iphone
will be avail
Hi Michael,
I'll check it out as it is my site, but sometimes the server is down for
repairs and updates.
As for the Sarah game, I recently signed up for Pottermore that has lots of
new information about the castle and wands so far.
I plan to make some changes in the game to reflect those new
Hello Paulette.
Your first post didn't seem to make it to the list, possibly you werent'
authorized to post at that point? However this one did, so feel free to ask
again.
Welcome to the list, hope you have fun.
All the best,
Dark.
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Excuse me, but what are you talking about? Since I am new to this list, I
have no idea how to become involved in these activities. They all sound
interesting! Please help.
Paulette
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Behalf Of Char
Hi all,
I joined the list yesterday. Today I have been receiving posts, but I have
not seen the post I sent in which I introduced myself and asked several
questions about games. Did I miss it?
Paulette
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Hi all,
I am a new member to this list. My name is Paulette Vickery. I am totally
blind and new to playing computer games. I would like to let you know a bit
about me.
First if anyone wants to contact me off list my email address is:
paule...@evickery.com
I am 59 years of age, married to a sighte
I cam imagine that.
Going to the shop, to get some supplies or the paper.
Shooting a few zombies along the way, getting the paper, killing another few.
coming home, and either being owned by them or killing more.
Then coming home with more cash than you started going out with.
At 02:21 p.m. 20/04
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