Thomas,
Here are some technical accessibilty notes on porting your game.
1. Java talks to screen readers via the Java Access Bridge. The J A B does
not work with all screen readers, specifically Window-Eyes. I've talked
with Clarence at G W, and this isn't likely to change soon. The J A B may
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Raceway for Mac or Linux?
hal is supposed to be up with it but with 5.2 access java, aah no.
At 10:19 a.m. 3/01/2008, you wrote:
Hi Willem,
I just did some
Hi Valiant,
Yes, that is correct. If someone gets NVDA 0.5 it will work fine with
the Java access bridge 2.0. In fact, I am using NVDA right now for my
swing based Java applications under Windows and Orca for the same apps
under Linux. So for games NVDA is a great alternative for any screen
Hi Lisa,
Yes, it most certainly is. I have been doing some research the past
week on this very issue, and what we want to do isn't easy, but
shouldn't be extremely difficult either.
The main issue is just finding the proper stuff to work with Java to do
force feedback for Raceway, getting
Hi Cara,
I appreciate your concern. However, as for Claudio He later wrote a
responce that tried to clear up his earlier post by explaining that by
calling me James North he was trying to point out I took his place as
the developer of the game etc. Not necessarily that I was acting like
James.
Ah, very good then; Glad he cleared that up, and if I misspoke
based on an incorrect assumption, then I'm truly sorry. :)
AGreed on the ease of switching back and forth with languages.
The only difficulty I find in switching / adapting code from one form
to another is actually
: Saturday, January 05, 2008 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Raceway for Mac or Linux?
Hi Lisa,
Yes, it most certainly is. I have been doing some research the past
week on this very issue, and what we want to do isn't easy, but
shouldn't be extremely difficult either.
The main issue is just
Oh interesting, I found libraries for 1.5.6 but not 1.5.13...
Well will keep looking and see what I find... Sorry I couldn't be
of more help!...
Smiles,
Cara :)
On Jan 2, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi Willem,
I just did some research on supported Java platforms and it
Hi che, for myself, in the last two months, I've seen at the very
least, 10 to fifteen new VI Mac users, and that's only in my own
sphere. Now, that translates to about $450 if a game is $30 a pop.
Now I'd personally rather spend $30 or so on an accessible game than
install Win XP for
Here if ya want me!!!
Smiles,
Cara :)
On Jan 2, 2008, at 1:58 PM, Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi William,
Assuming I actually do this I would have to have some sort of small
beta
team to work out the actual specifics of targeting all three operating
systems. As for Linux and Windows I have
Hi,
well, I myself am not a Linux or Mac user, but it would cirtainly be a great
thing for others to have Raceway not only for Windows but also for these
other OS.
But it would really be a pitty if this only is possible at the cost of
features that would be possible in Windows, but not for
: Cara Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 1:12 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Raceway for Mac or Linux?
thomas, though I obviously had nothing at all to do with the
earlier post you're responding to, I'd like to extend my apologies
, 2008 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Raceway for Mac or Linux?
Hi Lisa and all,
Fortunately, I won't have to write a game three times to support Mac,
Linux, and Windows all at the same time. The language we are looking at,
Java, is very portible across Mac, Linux, and Windows operating systems
Hi Sarah,
Quote
But it would really be a pitty if this only is possible at the cost of
features that would be possible in Windows, but not for the other OS, for
example force feedback support wich I would really love to see in the game.
End quote
Well, currently allot of the problem in this area
Hi Cara,
I have seen similar things in my own Sphere. I have been on and off the
Linux blind user forums, and it seams every time I go back there are
fresh new users on the lists asking questions of how to get Orca
working, what media player is most accessible, help getting Evolution
setup for
Hi,
Well, by the time I have anything ready for the Mac i suspect Mac OS
will catch up with the newer Java runtime environments and development
kits anyway. The version I am using on my desktop is 1.5.14 which is a
stable and good version of the JRE and JDK.
Cara Quinn wrote:
Oh
Hi Tom,
Well, hopefully I won't have to drop anything to support force feedback
racing wheels on the Windows platform. Another lister and I have been
talking about an open source game library called JInput off list which
is suppose to wrap DirectX for Java based games. As a result I could
Kara rote:
Hi che, for myself, in the last two months, I've seen at the very least,
10 to fifteen new VI Mac users, and that's only in my own sphere. Now,
that translates to about $450 if a game is $30 a pop.
end quote.
Well, that is assuming every one of those mac users bought the game
: [Audyssey] Raceway for Mac or Linux?
Hello gamers,
For about a month or so I have been doing research for USA Games on how
to expand our future titles to target Mac, Linux, and Windows operating
systems all at the same time. While my research isn't complete I do have
some options on how I might
Hello Thomas!
I don't understand why do you wand make a version for mac and linux.
Thomas, you are now james nord and your job is to complete raceway!!!
There several people here who have orderet the game a 3 years ago and you?
You relax and say:
Yes, i have all time of my life!
I make a mac and
before posting messages like the last one to
the list or any other list. Thanks!
Robin
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Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 2:11 PM
To: 'Gamers Discussion list'
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Raceway
Claudio, I also thought your message was a little um strong worded.
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Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Raceway for Mac or Linux?
Hello Claudio
hi
would you be willing to have mac and linnux testers to help you test
pre-beta releases, to make sure it all works as you expect?
thanks, will
i of course would love raceway on the mac tombraider, etc. however, i
do understand the steering wheel issue
On 2 Jan 2008, at 16:22, Mike Reiser
Hi Willem and all,
Quote
I'm not against cross platform games, but there sure are a lot of drawbacks.
End quote
Yes. There are certainly complications in attempting to support multiple
operating systems. Part of the problem is a lack of standards for Mac,
Windows, and Linux that can be shared
Hi,
Quote
hmm one wild idea I can think of is maybe 3 different versions of raceway. I
mean really 3 different version, wouldn't it rock having to code all that?
End quote
Not hardly. Parish the thought. It is bad enough writing one version let
alone three completely new versions from scratch.
waiting long enough for Raceway as it is.
Karl
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Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Raceway for Mac or Linux?
Hi,
Quote
hmm one wild idea I can think
Hi Claudio,
Quote
I don't understand why do you wand make a version for mac and linux.
End quote
I can give several reasons why I think I should. First, probably the
biggest reason is that I am a Linux user myself and know of several
Linux blind users that aren't even on this list since up
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Raceway for Mac or Linux?
Hi,
Quote
hmm one wild idea I can think of is maybe 3 different versions of raceway.
I
mean really 3 different version, wouldn't it rock having to code all that?
End quote
Not hardly. Parish the thought. It is bad enough writing one
Hi Robin,
Quote
So instead of just using his current programming language C-Sharp he
decided to go and learn a new programming language which is really great
because it really isn't easy
to learn a new programming language at first.
End quote
Actually, it is more like brushing up old skills
Hi Willem,
I just did some research on supported Java platforms and it appears Mac
X Leopard comes with Java 1.5.13 , and of course there is both Windows
and Linux versions of Java 1.5.13. As a result if I write my future
games in Java making a game cross platform should be a piece of cake.
hal is supposed to be up with it but with 5.2 access java, aah no.
At 10:19 a.m. 3/01/2008, you wrote:
Hi Willem,
I just did some research on supported Java platforms and it appears Mac
X Leopard comes with Java 1.5.13 , and of course there is both Windows
and Linux versions of Java 1.5.13. As a
Hi Karl,
That sounds like some pretty sound advice there. I think as you
suggested I shouldn't drop the idea of cross platform games, but delay
their introduction until I finish Raceway. Too many gamers have already
come to want Raceway the way it was planned, and taking things out to
make it
I would do a survey before going through the trouble of cross developing
any accessible game. I'm afraid given the limited amount of Linux and Mac
users using accessible technology, it simply would not be worth the effort,
especially if you end up cutting out features to make it work on all
Hi William,
Assuming I actually do this I would have to have some sort of small beta
team to work out the actual specifics of targeting all three operating
systems. As for Linux and Windows I have both here to get the initial
testing done, but I don't have a Mac Leopard system on hand to test
Hi,
Yes, I am beginning to see that. Like you I have had personal experience
dealing with Linux and Mac users outside of Audyssey, and perhaps that
is the forum that needs to be asked separately regarding this matter.
I'll probably drop in on the Mac Visionaries list and see who all over
there
And after a quick Google, here's some extra info:
http://lists.apple.com/archives/java-dev/2007/Oct//msg00370.html
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Hi Cara,
Quote
in that VoiceOver does really well with plain text as well, and I'm
assuming that linux
screen readers would too?... So you might be able to output plain
text via Perl methods and then simply let the individual tts software
already on each system render it itself?...
End quote
] Raceway for Mac or Linux?
Hello Thomas!
I don't understand why do you wand make a version for mac and linux.
Thomas, you are now james nord and your job is to complete raceway!!!
There several people here who have orderet the game a 3 years ago and you?
You relax and say:
Yes, i have all
agreed, and a dude needs time away from work once in a blue moon anyways.
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Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Raceway for Mac or Linux?
Oh god, I can't
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Raceway for Mac or Linux?
Hi,
Quote
hmm one wild idea I can think of is maybe 3 different versions of raceway.
I
mean really 3 different version, wouldn't
Hi Lisa and all,
Fortunately, I won't have to write a game three times to support Mac,
Linux, and Windows all at the same time. The language we are looking at,
Java, is very portible across Mac, Linux, and Windows operating systems
and was designed especially for developers wanting to run a
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On Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 10:16 PM
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] Raceway for Mac or Linux?
Hello gamers,
For about a month or so I have been doing research for USA Games on how
Hello gamers,
For about a month or so I have been doing research for USA Games on how
to expand our future titles to target Mac, Linux, and Windows operating
systems all at the same time. While my research isn't complete I do have
some options on how I might actually target all three major
supposed to be
freeware?
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From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 8:15 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Raceway for Mac or Linux?
Hello gamers,
For about a month or so I have been doing research for USA Games on how
to expand
also isn't it posible for people using other opperating systems to run
windows emilators and play the games like that?
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Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 8:15 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Raceway for Mac or Linux
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