On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:
On 8/5/13 8:05 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:
Agreed, but it would be more welcoming and more of a committee if
several folks took the time
Here are all the shepherd comments extracted from the Incubator's August 2013
Board report at https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2013:
Ambari
mfranklin: The podling's activity looks great and they are constantly adding
new committers. I would like to see more
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
Tashi
rvs: Tashi looks completely dormant at this point. Despite my repeated
on-list and off-list emails it appears that I couldn't find anybody to
compile a report. The only discussion
and they spawned some excellent threads; it would be nice to
revive that tradition. I hope that including them in the report yet also
forwarding to the list will give us the best of all worlds.
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Wed August 7 -- Podling reports due by end of day
Tue August 13 -- Mentor signoff due by end of day
Tue August 13 -- Shepherd reviews due by end of day
Tue August 13 -- Summary due by end of day
with. If that doesn't work, let us
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monolithic script and
then cleaning up the huge mess when things go wrong (e.g. because every TLP
receives a reminder with the wrong date).
Thoughts?
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not comfortable asking in a public forum
like general@incubator, ask a Mentor or any other member of the Incubator
PMC.
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Oh, and naturally the security@ list will need moderated subscriptions like
the private@ list. ;)
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discussions on a private list. I understand
private@ is meant for private PMC discussions. Since the context and the
membership is different, we'd like to keep the security and PMC discussions
on separate lists.
Thanks, that's helpful.
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On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Shreepadma Venugopalan
shreepa...@cloudera.com wrote:
Could you please grant write access to the Apache Incubator wiki to user
ShreepadmaVenugopalan to add a new proposal to the list of incubator
projects?
Done.
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concerns. If there are no objections after
72 hours, go ahead. My hunch is that with JimJag as the candidate, a new
proposal is unlikely to garner unyielding opposition.
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*This office uses all four terms —- ombud, ombuds, ombudsperson, and
ombudsman.
We use chair, not chairman, after all. The fact that the position is 95%
likely to go to someone male because the ASF gender imbalance is so horrible
merely underscores the urgency of improving our outreach.
Marvin
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Jakob Homan jgho...@gmail.com wrote:
[ ] +1 accept Samza in the Incubator
[ ] +/-0
[ ] -1 because...
+1 (binding)
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* Chris Douglas cdouglas at apache dot org
* Roman Shaposhnik rvs at apache dot org
The core developers may all work for LinkedIn, but that's a good, diverse list
of Mentors in terms of affiliation. (Hortonworks, Microsoft, and Cloudera,
repectively.)
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://lucy.apache.org/
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On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Chris Ricco criccomini@gmail.com wrote:
My username is: ChrisRiccomini
Please let me edit/add pages to Incubator.
Done.
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a Mentor who brings that kind of energy, that's not our expectation for
those who fill the Mentor role -- most often, it is the podling's core
contributors who must provide the push and sustain the momentum.
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[1] We sometimes have problems where IPMC members who are not Mentors
? Or is the podling fumbling around because they don't know
what questions to ask?
Are there perhaps activities that are really the responsibility of the
community, but which a Mentor might optionally take on? I'm thinking of
things like evangelism, publicity and such.
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.
By the way, the increased volume of shepherd notes embedded in the report this
month in comparison to prior months was a hit with the Board. Thanks to
everyone who took part.
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aware of?
It would be great to have more active mentors.
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`-allow` lists for each podling
dev list, we would have one omnibus public-allow@incubator list. Once we
approve `Marvin no-re...@apache.org` by adding it to that list, then
reminders will always go through, even for new podlings.
Thoughts?
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[1]
https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra
://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/public/trunk/content/guides/ppmc.xml?r1=1036361r2=1140654diff_format=h
+1 to revert to the rule that you built consensus for.
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something like that?
For the purposes of the report, the important thing is to provide consistent
numbers over time. Up-to-the-minute accuracy is less of a concern.
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On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Florian Hopf fh...@apache.org wrote:
can I please get write access to the wiki so I can help with the reports for
ODF Toolkit? User is FlorianHopf.
Done.
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Thanks, Tim.
(PS: the algo in my previous mail counts dupes, so no one should ever use it.)
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On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Andrew Phillips andr...@apache.org wrote:
Please allow my account AndrewPhillips to edit the incubator wiki,
specifically the project reports page.
Done.
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On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 7:23 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
Benson Marguilies Chukwa
Benson Marguilies Kafka
Benson Marguilies MetaModel
Benson will have one fewer podlings to shepherd this month. Kafka graduated
last October, but hadn't followed through
) as willing
to handle any podlings (plural) and assigned you three.
All: Please speak up if there are any issues.
Thanks as always, shepherds.
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as everything goes smoothly
and we produce a high-quality report.
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://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html#template-mailing-lists
I'm having second thoughts about where it should live permanently, though.
The Incubator's documentation could withstand some reorganization and I'm
contemplating some proposals which I'll put forth in a little while.
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On 30
/201210.mbox/%3C20121011202956.GA4372%40lp-shahaf.local%3E
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option that can only be discussed privately is
the price of consensus, I'm still on board. It's better than nothing.
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On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 6:03 AM, Ross Gardler
rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:
+10.99
+Inf
Good grief, could there be a better candidate, in terms of either substance or
symbolism?
(the .9 is for Marvins amusement ;-)
It worked!
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On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Rob Vesse rve...@yarcdata.com wrote:
Could someone please grant me write access to the Incubator wiki
My username is RobVesse
Done.
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general@ after scrubbing sections marked private and anything else sensitive
at the ombud's discretion. Author identity should be preserved, because any
attempt at anonymization will be dangerously futile.
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the only copy at the canonical location of
the proposal guide.
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to insist. But this is a
discussion and I believe it's a waste of time.
So long no one contends that this sets a precedent, I would prefer that we let
things slide this time.
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successful.
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seems fine to me.
I also went and augmented the proposal guide with a wiki snippet which can be
copied and pasted into a proposal wiki page to mark it as final.
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http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html#vote
Index: content/guides/proposal.xml
will bring him after the project starts.
Voting in a new committer is a useful exercise for a fledgling PPMC.
Think of this as an opportunity. :)
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that if the IPMC Chair is not the same as the ombud, they could
serve as a backup ombud. That would satisfy your concern so long as the ombud
and the Chair aren't both Mentors for the same podling.
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as
part of the instruction to ensure that everyone has a chance to be heard[1].
Should the Board pass the resolution appointing me as IPMC Chair on Wednesday,
I think anyone who has read my posts over the years knows that I'd pursue the
task with zeal.
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[1] http://www.apache.org/dev
aspect
of the chair position.
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On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
I have tendered my resignation as VP, Incubator. The PMC has recommend
Marvin Humphrey as my successor in a motion submitted to the
Foundation board for consideration at the meeting next week.
Thank you for serving
responsibility arrives all at once on graduation.
On general@, we'll probably get the usual storms of email. But we would have
gotten those anyway, and at least we'll be talking about real data rather than
hypotheticals.
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[1] http://s.apache.org/nzm
a private@ list.
Since there's only a combined dev/user list to start with though, obviously
some thought has gone into this. :)
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in the middle of a vote. Personnel issues in proposals have
caused significant problems in the past. That's unlikely to happen in this
case, but I want to register my protest now because it might save us hundreds
or thousands of emails in the future.
Good luck, Spark!
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Mentors join a podling later, there's often little formality about it
(which seems fine) -- but we ought to maintain rigor about formal VOTEs.
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On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Matt Franklin m.ben.frank...@gmail.com wrote:
Can someone with Karma add me to the wiki administrators group?
Username: MattFranklin
Done.
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On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:37 AM, John Kinsella j...@stratosec.co wrote:
Hey folks - I wanted to add myself to the mentor list for Stratos, but I
don't seem to have privs to edit the page
(https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StratosProposal).
Can those be granted?
Done.
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for generating LICENSE and NOTICE. Hopefully, LICENSE and NOTICE files which
conform to its recommendations will not get any -1 votes from IPMC members.
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On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Vinod Kone vinodk
is worthless at best.
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of the dependency, not
to give credit -- so IMO linking only makes sense if that's a requirement
of the dependency's license.
We must not treat linking as a requirement of ALL category B licenses because
SOME of them require it.
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by abstaining, but that's my plan for now.
In the future, I may vote -1 on other podling release candidates that have
similar issues, if the podling does not have similar extenuating
circumstances.
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should be OK.
http://www.apache.org/dev/licensing-howto.html
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this reply out rather than delay it
further in order to perform a comprehensive review.
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On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Rebecca Wood silky...@gmail.com wrote:
May I have permission to add and edit the jclouds proposal on the Incubator
wiki? My username is RebeccaWood.
Done.
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On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Matt Stephenson matts...@mattstep.net wrote:
I'm helping out with the jclouds incubation. My username is MattStephenson
Done.
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On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Seetharam Venkatesh
venkat...@innerzeal.com wrote:
The user id is venkatesh.
Added.
Happy wikifying,
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an mbox and prints
summary data for each thread:
* authors ranked by message count
* authors ranked by word count
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release.
If Mentors fall away after phase 1 ends, it's less of a problem. Replacing
Mentors is less consequential once the code base has reached the known good
state of having made it through the release process.
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to bundle ALv2 tools with the binary redistribution, or in a
separate `-deps` package, though.
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On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
Can someone please grant me write access to the Incubator wiki?
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/
My username is AndreaPescetti
Done.
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/guides/releasemanagement.html will be a
similarly challenging undertaking.
I don't see how what needs to be done can be achieved by anybody other than
volunteers with significant expertise and patience.
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if the incremental improvements are blocked.
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the Incubator is
failing to provide legal oversight of a code base for which it has assumed
responsibility.
I believe we can give them binding votes without being on the IPMC.
Efforts to keep the IPMC pure and exclusive cause only harm.
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, and so on.
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of forging consensus is wasted when the IPMC does not follow its
own rules.
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the status quo for personnel issues.
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Index: content/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.xml
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--- content/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.xml (revision 1451965)
+++ content/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.xml (working copy)
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such lists should be encouraged for new podlings (probably by
putting a stub in the proposal template alongside the other lists), I can't
say that I have a strong opinion.
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proposals and miss another opportunity to make some meaningful
incremental progress.
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Edward, are you not familiar with our custom of handling personnel
matters on private lists? It has not always been that way, but do you
understand why virtually all ASF projects adhere to that convention
now?
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On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Edward J. Yoon edwardy...@apache.org
with only 1 valid Mentor be acceptable?
In addition to Alex Karasulu, Mohammed Nour El-Din had volunteered,
but seems to have been left off the version of the proposal which was
VOTEd on. So unless Mohammed has withdrawn, MRQL has 2 Mentors.
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On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Matthieu Morel mmo...@apache.org wrote:
Can someone grant me permissions to edit the incubator wiki?
My wiki id is MatthieuMorel
Done.
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to make the decision to push those bits into
our repository.
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Resolution: Implemented
The how-to has been published and linked from
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Leonidas Fegaras fega...@cse.uta.edu wrote:
Please add my account to the ContributorsGroup so I can create an incubator
proposal for a new project called MRQL (the MapReduce query processing
system). My username is LeonidasFegaras.
Done.
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On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Andrei Savu as...@apache.org wrote:
Can someone grant me the permission to edit the Incubator wiki? My id is
andreisavu.
Done.
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most pages under
wiki.apache.org/incubator.
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The February2013 page has been changed by RetoBachmannGmuer:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2013?action=diffrev1=6rev2=7
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I think it will also be useful
moderated through right away.
It's now in the general@incubator archives as well.
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201301.mbox/%3CCAPt9QwRMDCcp_JWwAJeL-rH3YnPJDNEjq0tgcQvUHUKrpv-y%2BA%40mail.gmail.com%3E
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On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 6:39 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
On 14 January 2013 23:42, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:52 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
Best practise is to include the component version info, e.g. SuperWidget
1.234.
It's
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The page has now been published
and frozen in
time, wich would provide a step-by-step guide containing all the mandatory
steps (and ONLY the mandatory steps), then point at various project release
recipes as sample implementations.
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think the material under www.apache.org/legal is pretty consistent,
while the stuff in www.apache.org/dev is more uneven. (I think /dev was
rougher a few months ago but seems to have been cleaned up some.)
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is that committers will fail to update the number in
LICENSE at least some of the time. I don't see how it will remind people to
check that a license has not changed. That's important information, but the
appropriate time to verify the license is when updating the bundled bits.
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https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-125
PS: This thread was originally about how our hyper-focus on LICENSE and
NOTICE distracts us from more important concerns, both legal and social.
I agree with that assessment and regret contributing to the diversion once
more.
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1. I want to start by noting
you to the ContributorsGroup, because I
don't see anything resembling your name in either there or Administrators.
See the boxed explanation at the top of the main wiki page.
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On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Craig L Russell
craig.russ...@oracle.com wrote:
CraigRussell is my user id.
I added that ID to ContributorsGroup and you should now be able to edit the
report page.
Cheers,
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On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Antoine Levy Lambert anto...@gmx.de wrote:
please add me to the ContributorsGroup on wiki.apache.org/incubator.
What's your username? (Not your apache ID, but the id you use to
log into http://wiki.apache.org/incubator.)
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On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Chip Childers
chip.child...@sungard.com wrote:
Can someone grant me karma on the incubator wiki to help create podling
reports?
Wiki ID: chipchilders
Done.
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