Have you seen https://openquantumsafe.org/ ? The team is impressive.
Work is done on GitHub, MIT license, and has integrations with OpenSSL and
others.
Thanks, so do I.
On 7/25/22, 6:22 PM, "Julian Hyde" wrote:
Rich,
Thanks for revising this presentation and sharing back. I hope others will
find it useful.
Julian
> On Jul 23, 2022, at 8:58 AM, Salz, Rich wrote:
>
> Thanks Julian.
>
Thanks Julian.
Here is the current draft intended to be a stand-alone introduction to Apache
and Incubation. Hope others find it useful, comments encouraged.
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1qbEfESTrihQsbh-8UupVf_NEms8GFzIyIvVAvl2heVM/edit?usp=sharing
>> What does "releases are a sacred ritual" mean? That there's a fixed
process that must be followed?
>Basically yes, the PPMC and IPMC check and vote on releases as described
here [1].
Thanks.
On 6/21/22, 3:52 PM, "Julian Hyde" wrote:
Here’s the original Google slides. Feel free to make a copy.
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Q28ExXCggbsstqEa1KjnCuA3Ws4XWfR7itQzPmab8vk/edit?usp=sharing
These are great, thanks!
What does "releases are a sacred ritual" mean?
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>
Julian
> On Jun 21, 2022, at 11:50 AM, Salz, Rich wrote:
>
> It seems that to download the slides, as opposed to just view them, you
have to set up a &qu
to-expect-when-youre-incubating
Julian
> On Jun 17, 2022, at 10:50 AM, Salz, Rich wrote:
>
>> Depends on what you mean by short.
>
> Yeah, that's always the issue, innit.
>
> I was hoping for something 10 minutes for exec's.
>Depends on what you mean by short.
Yeah, that's always the issue, innit.
I was hoping for something 10 minutes for exec's. I've read the cookbook and
might unfairly synopsize it.
Is there a short talk, or slides, or anything that I can use to explain to
executives how the Apache process, including incubation, works?
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A couple of thoughts:
Podlings are not permitted to call themselves "Apache Foo" because they are
not yet full Apache projects.
While in the incubator we should expect podlibgs to fail at the rules.
They're new to them and many of them feel arbitrary, even capricious, to
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> addressed
> > everything else I could catch, (except that the archive contents starts
> in
> > a subdirectory).
> > After I've done that I will raise a thread on t
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> >>>
> >>> On 11/07/2016 10:05 PM,
ncerned with the sustainability of the project
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> Yes, excellent work and many thanks for the time taken on this, Daniel.
For
> anyone reading this -- do note that these are preliminary findings based
on
> the current infrastructure of NetBeans, which is
On Sep 25, 2016 01:18, "Justin Mclean" wrote:
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> Hi,
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> > E.g., no forums in Apache, for example.
>
> A mailing list can be mirrored to a nibble forum if it helps [1] I know
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n development and increased participation in the
> Apache TinkerPop Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache TinkerPop Project be and hereby
> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator TinkePop podling; and be
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much in open source, however, depends on persona
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> On Saturday, November 14, 2015, Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
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> > No. I can use whatever criteria I like to justify my vote on a podlings
> > graduation, if it's
On Nov 13, 2015 4:50 PM, "Branko Čibej" wrote:
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> On 10.11.2015 16:00, Pierre Smits wrote:
> > That is nice! Apache pages drawn up by a member of the Apache Software
> > Foundation with the input from many (both ASF members and others) and
> > hosted/communicated through ASF
urally optimize for those things, to the detriment of some of the
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Perhaps things were simpler in The Old Days, or perhaps I was just more
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> value in adding more bureaucracy as it will further sap any motivation
> to truly "mentor" projects. I view the mentor as someone that can be
> called upon, but doesn't necessarily require active involvement on a
> daily basis. If I wanted that, I would be a committer to the p
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> David,
>
> The problem with Rich's commentary is that we don't have any solid
evidence
> to that effect. Certainly not on a systematic level.
> All I see is a lot of responsiveness from the team about repair-oriented
>
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>On 11/01/2015 07:48 PM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote:
> >Thanks for sending this around, Paul - I should've linked it to the vote
> >thread, duh...
> >
> &g
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>On 11/01/2015 07:48 PM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote:
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> >thread,
just rhetorical questions then why do we bother at all?
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> But, I've got to wonder: as long as it is just a suggestion what's to
compel
> a mentor to actually spend quite a bit of time on doing that?
>
>
A mentor's desire to do their job thoroughly and serve the project and the
Foundation. This is one tool to assist with reaching that end. Use it, or
On Oct 28, 2015 4:26 PM, "Konstantin Boudnik" wrote:
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> Following discussions [1] about its current status, the Groovy community
> has voted [2] to graduate from the Incubator. The vote passed [3] with 12
+1s
> total, 5 are binding:
>
> Guillaume Laforge
> Cédric
+1, binding, mentor
On Oct 23, 2015 9:07 PM, "Stephen Mallette" wrote:
> Hello,
> We are happy to announce that TinkerPop 3.0.2-incubating is ready for
> release.
>
> The release artifacts can be found at this location:
>
>
A huge +1, but I wonder about a few things. Who does the work? Who
evaluates the results? What happens when projects "fail"?
Le 15/10/15 11:46, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit :
> Hi Incubator PMC,
>
> FYI I have started an experiment at
>
.
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Hi Incubator PMC,
FYI I have started an experiment at
https://github.com/apache/incubator-groovy/blob/master/MATURITY.adoc ,
using our maturity model to evaluate Groovy before its mentors sugge
, I'd also encourage mentors who are mentors in name only,
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themselves from the roster. It doesn't look great when a podling can't
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?
Help us understand how you jumped from this email thread to that
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Result summary: +1 (4 binding, 2 non-binding), 0 (0), -1 (0)
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You wait for something to exist, and THEN you support it?
How about taking something good that WANTS TO EXIST, and supporting that?
Stefan
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Oh, well.
Alan
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Whoever is running the @ApacheIgnite twitter account needs a little
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Hello everyone,
Over the last 2 weeks, TinkerPop's proposal has been worked on with
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* David Nalley (champion)
* Rich Bowen (mentor)
* Hadrian Zbarcea
Enthusiastically +1 to welcome TinkerPop to the Incubator.
On 01/09/2015 11:35 AM, Marko Rodriguez wrote:
Hello everyone,
Over the last 2 weeks, TinkerPop's proposal has been worked on with
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* David Nalley (champion)
* Rich Bowen (mentor)
* Hadrian Zbarcea (mentor)
* Daniel Gruno
be*) recognizable.
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Current Status
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Imnsho, that is a poor practice.
Sent from my iPhone
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I know many projects (TLP) which discuss/draft the report in private and only
later make it public
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On Mon Dec 29 2014 at 9:50:49 AM Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote:
On 12/21/2014 11:14 AM, John D. Ament wrote:
I don't particularly like that idea. For one, I know that if I were
to
see
50%+ of mentors
?
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, but not a technical
lead role.
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to their mentors
are are learning the ropes.
Podlings that have 100% mentor signoff indicate that everything is going
perfectly, and there's no reason for concern.
Absolutely not just noise. Take the extra 2 seconds to add your sign off.
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On Dec 29, 2014 12:11 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea hzbar...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/29/2014 09:40 AM, Rich Bowen wrote:
On 12/22/2014 11:42 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
Hi!
before answering Ross' proposal, I'd like to remark that I was holding
off on replying to see whether viewpoints that we
On Dec 29, 2014 12:35 PM, Marko Rodriguez okramma...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
Here is how TinkerPop current runs it TinkerPop-Contributors.
1. If you are a vendor, you get one engineer from your
organization to be on TinkerPop-Contributors who speaks on behalf of your
at the forefront of
decision making, but to designate them a project lead indicates
dysfunction in a collaboration-based structure.
This seems a tad of a diversion from the topic, but definitely worth
mentioning.
On Dec 29, 2014, at 6:46 AM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote:
On 12/23
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