Re: Short form IP clearance

2015-10-22 Thread Sam Ruby
strong opinion as to whether IP Clearance for podlings and PMCs should be managed separately or together. As long as it continues to be done via lazy consensus, I also don't see burden. > Thx, > -g - Sam Ruby - To unsubs

Re: Not just yet

2015-10-22 Thread Sam Ruby
ned another issue that I would appreciate feedback on: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIMSY-28 > Looks like I got the graduation gods really angry. This is not what a > podling should expect from an ASF member. > > Hadrian - Sam Ruby > On 10/22/2015 07:03 AM, John D. Ament wr

Re: Short form IP clearance

2015-10-21 Thread Sam Ruby
n working without issue, where lazy consensus is key to making it work smoothly. So I'm -1 on fixing something that isn't broke. Of course, as you say, the current VP of Legal Affairs could decide that to change any of this; but I personally would see that at variance with statements l

Re: Short form IP clearance

2015-10-21 Thread Sam Ruby
On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 7:37 PM, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Hey all, >&

Re: [DISCUSS] Eagle incubator proposal

2015-10-20 Thread Sam Ruby
the name to be used. We > will look into it again to see if there will be potential problems. Ultimately it will be the ASF that determines the appropriateness of the name for a podling. A few pointers: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARC

Re: Starting from the other end

2015-10-19 Thread Sam Ruby
the podling community to > look like a candidate for direct-to-TLP", as it really can't do that. > > The ultimate question, I believe, is: "does the code/community operate > according to Foundation principles?" Indeed. >>... > > Cheers, > -g - Sam Ruby --

Re: [graduation] Maturity model-based assessment of Groovy for its graduation

2015-10-18 Thread Sam Ruby
resolutions are also volunteers; and making this information available at the times of those votes will save a considerable amount of volunteer effort. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.or

Re: Starting from the other end

2015-10-17 Thread Sam Ruby
rum. Having a well defined exit criteria and only applying the parts of the process that were needed to address deficiencies might have helped with projects like Subversion. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Mentor disengagement - a suggestion

2015-10-15 Thread Sam Ruby
ion of an annual review of mentors. Applying this consistently to all projects (as opposed to singling out individual projects) would introduce less social friction. > -Bertrand - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: genera

Re: Mentor disengagement - a suggestion

2015-10-14 Thread Sam Ruby
bullet, it isn't clear to me that that is being done. Even if it were only a one time thing, reverifying (or in many cases, naming) the champion for every podling, and then asking each to reverify the active status for every mentor for podlings that they champion might go a long way toward easing some of the c

Re: Possible process improvement?

2015-10-14 Thread Sam Ruby
, e.g, "This is the e-mail address that your > apache e-mail will be forwarded to.". Good to know also that mentors can get > at the iCLAs. I did not know that. Lookup can be done here: https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/committer/ You can change your forwarding email address here

Re: Mentor disengagement - a suggestion

2015-10-14 Thread Sam Ruby
the intent is that the lead mentor would be the primary person > responsible. Perhaps this could be accomplished by tweaking the definition of champion? http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Champion http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsi

Re: Mentor disengagement - a suggestion

2015-10-13 Thread Sam Ruby
ith 10 mentors, of which 4 are 'active', as compared to a podling with > 4 mentors, all of which are 'active'"?? I know many mentors personally. Knowing which podlings you (Jim) are on top of makes me comfortable that I can focus elsewhere. Having me as a mentor of record on a podling that I am no

Re: Mentor disengagement - a suggestion

2015-10-13 Thread Sam Ruby
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 8:28 AM, Tim Williams <william...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 6:37 PM, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote: >>> >>> On

Re: Mentor disengagement - a suggestion

2015-10-13 Thread Sam Ruby
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 12:39 AM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote: > >> Now on to the substance of my reply: >> >> https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/signoff >>

Re: Draft Report October 2015 - please review

2015-10-13 Thread Sam Ruby
te was established. There was discussion of migrating the > reminders and other Incubator bookkeeping to Whimsy. It actually is more than that[1]: Marvin (the bot) is no more. - Sam Ruby [1] http://s.apache.org/Kw0 (member only) - To unsubsc

Re: A suggestion: podling post-mortems

2015-10-12 Thread Sam Ruby
some background beyond just a boilerplate >> "time to graduate" message > > I agree, and IMO our maturity model [1] would provide a good framework > for such a report. +1 to both of the above. > -Bertrand > > [1] https://community.apache.

Re: Mentor disengagement - a suggestion

2015-10-12 Thread Sam Ruby
bstance of my reply: https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/signoff If we can get some volunteers to split this list up, perhaps we can reach out to those that haven't been participating in signoffs and see what changes need to be made. Any takers? - Sam Ruby P.S. Despite this being pulled fro

Re: [DISCUSS] [REVISED] Mentor neutrality policy

2015-10-11 Thread Sam Ruby
as an individual. That's the way I treat other ASF members, and the way I want to be treated myself. You don't get to be an ASF member or a VP or a committer by appointment by your employer, you get to be any or all of the above by recognition by a diverse group of your peers. - Sam Rub

Re: [DISCUSS] Mentor neutrality policy

2015-10-09 Thread Sam Ruby
ate their ASF role from their relationship with their employee. Nothing wrong with still requiring 3 completely independent votes, but having a rule that excludes participation by those that have demonstrated their merit as ASF members just seems wrong. - Sam Ruby

Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?

2015-08-07 Thread Sam Ruby
(including httpd) would be less problematic than incorporating a name like Hadoop. - Sam Ruby On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 12:30 PM, William A Rowe Jr wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: Hi! while answering a question

Re: June report prep

2015-06-27 Thread Sam Ruby
by whimsy. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: June report prep

2015-06-22 Thread Sam Ruby
be automated away entirely. Marvin Humphrey - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [DRAFT] May 2015 Board Report

2015-05-17 Thread Sam Ruby
technologies and have at least a passing knowledge of languages like JavaScript, Perl, Python, or Ruby, please do consider joining us once the Whimsy PMC is set up. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-28 Thread Sam Ruby
/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-75. I don't see a problem. If others do, please speak up. 2) naming of a chair. If anybody wants that position, please speak up. If nobody does, I'll put my name down. - Sam Ruby

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-28 Thread Sam Ruby
both tools). https://github.com/rubys/whimsy-agenda#readme - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-28 Thread Sam Ruby
that we setting a dangerous precedent whereby future projects can lobby to be funded. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-27 Thread Sam Ruby
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2015, at 06:50 PM, David Nalley wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: Initial sketch placed on the wiki: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WhimsyProposal Anyone

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-27 Thread Sam Ruby
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote: On 04/23/2015 02:46 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: Initial sketch placed on the wiki: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WhimsyProposal Anyone who is so inclined is welcome to edit the proposal directly. No urgency or timeframe

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-27 Thread Sam Ruby
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote: On 04/27/2015 02:45 PM, Upayavira wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2015, at 06:50 PM, David Nalley wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: Initial sketch placed on the wiki: https

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-24 Thread Sam Ruby
page. - Shane - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

[DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-23 Thread Sam Ruby
and go directly to TLP, but I'm starting a discussion here (in Incubator) to see if there are any other thoughts on the matter. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-23 Thread Sam Ruby
copied from Steve. Struck. - Sam Ruby On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: Initial sketch placed on the wiki: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WhimsyProposal Anyone who is so inclined is welcome to edit the proposal directly. No urgency or timeframe

Re: Soliciting feedback for a detailed pTLP policy document

2015-03-04 Thread Sam Ruby
...@incubator.apache.org - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Practical next steps for pTLP experiment

2015-02-10 Thread Sam Ruby
/foundation/records/minutes/2012/board_minutes_2012_07_25.txt -g - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [Proposal] TinkerPop: A Graph Computing Framework

2014-12-18 Thread Sam Ruby
On 12/18/2014 11:16 AM, Marko Rodriguez wrote: Hello Jake, When talking with Sam Ruby (cc:d) we voiced our concerns about moving all of our infrastructure over to The Apache Foundation. In particular, our GitHub presence and our public user-mailing list (i.e. tech support mailing list). I have

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Spark from the Incubator

2014-02-04 Thread Sam Ruby
the resolution is fixed. -Bertrand - Sam Ruby

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Spark from the Incubator

2014-02-04 Thread Sam Ruby
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:52 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 12:06 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: ...There is a mix of ASF e-mails and non-ASF e-mails above... That's

Re: [PROPOSAL] OData Proposal for Incubator

2013-06-18 Thread Sam Ruby
repository name, but they may have to deal with that to graduate to a TLP. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: svn commit: r1354707 - /incubator/public/trunk/content/projects/allura.xml

2012-07-02 Thread Sam Ruby
of the Apache Allura (incubating) project. I don't believe that the following page currently does that: http://sourceforge.net/p/allura/tickets/ - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional

[Discuss] Apache Steve

2012-06-30 Thread Sam Ruby
-steve.txt - Sam Ruby P.S. I apologize for publishing private links to a public list, but the clear intent here is to open everything up. We just need to figure out the best way to get from where we are to where we want

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-08 Thread Sam Ruby
our position and agrees to moving it, there are a number of ways that this can be expressed clearly. I still maintain that having an Adobe employee do such a move would be the simplest and clearest way, but other ways are possible too. Kalle - Sam Ruby

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-08 Thread Sam Ruby
for the individual to send a signed letter to secret...@apache.org? Or fax such to to +1-919-573-9199? If such is possible,we will file it in our foundation records and confirm to the PPMC that it has been received. - Sam Ruby

Re: [DISCUSS] Prototype ASF Mailing List Request form

2012-06-08 Thread Sam Ruby
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:40 PM, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote: sebb wrote: David Crossley wrote: Sam Ruby wrote: I would love to see a resourceAlias attribute.  Or even a resourceAliases attribute (allowing multiple names, separated by a space and/or a comma). Yes

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-07 Thread Sam Ruby
of said company commit whatever changes are required. Rumor has it that there is an Adobe employee or two subscribed to this list. :-) If we can find such a volunteer, then there is no reason for any further discussion. - Sam Ruby

Re: diversity

2012-06-05 Thread Sam Ruby
it *very* handy when approached by potential new projects to mention a desire to bring on other participants. This does not need to be expressed as a diversity requirement. Reality dictates that it does, however, need to be an elevator pitch. - Sam Ruby

Re: [DISCUSS] Prototype ASF Mailing List Request form

2012-06-04 Thread Sam Ruby
://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/trunk/projects/whimsy/www/officers/mlreq.cgi - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h

Re: [DISCUSS] Prototype ASF Mailing List Request form

2012-05-31 Thread Sam Ruby
of the forms for review (url names are NOT final): https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/asfmlreq https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/incmlreq - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [DISCUSS] Prototype ASF Mailing List Request form

2012-05-31 Thread Sam Ruby
/projects/whimsy/www/incubator/asfmlreq.cgi - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

[DISCUSS] Prototype ASF Mailing List Request form

2012-05-25 Thread Sam Ruby
. Within the incubator, podling mailing list names are expected to have a specific format. But the mapping of podling names to mailing list names sometimes varies... Suggestions welcome. I'm starting with the incubator as it is the source for a bulk of the requests... - Sam Ruby

Re: [VOTE] Graduate JSPWiki from Incubator

2012-04-17 Thread Sam Ruby
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Apr 16, 2012 11:26 AM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote: Are any of the JSPWiki mentors (I see Dave Johnson, Craig Russell, Henning Schmiedehausen and Sam Ruby listed) still actively following the project

Re: [VOTE] Graduate JSPWiki from Incubator

2012-04-16 Thread Sam Ruby
On Apr 16, 2012 11:26 AM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote: Are any of the JSPWiki mentors (I see Dave Johnson, Craig Russell, Henning Schmiedehausen and Sam Ruby listed) still actively following the project? Nobody signed off the JSPWiki report and I got no responses to my status

Re: IP Clearance? NAK

2012-03-01 Thread Sam Ruby
is referring to, so I won't challenge it directly. Instead I will ask that people work together to find out what processes are right for the ASF at this point in time, even if these processes are different than the ones that we used 10, 5, or even just 2 years ago. - Sam Ruby

Re: February report review

2012-02-09 Thread Sam Ruby
would be fine: i.e., setting a date by which the IPMC will have decided what information needs to be in such reports, and a schedule by which the PPMCs need to start providing said information. [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2012?action=diffrev1=78rev2=79 BR, Jukka Zitting - Sam

Re: February report review

2012-02-09 Thread Sam Ruby
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote: By July we should then have a pretty accurate record of progress throughout the entire Incubator, including a clear list of podlings that are stuck and need help. +1 - Sam Ruby

Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Sam Ruby
, and one that is readily reversible if necessary. What's not to like? - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: February report review

2012-02-08 Thread Sam Ruby
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, The podling reports this month [1] seem pretty good in general. I spent some time unifying report formatting and fixing some minor issues (like Stanbol needing an intro paragraph). I also pinged NPanday and

Re: February report review

2012-02-08 Thread Sam Ruby
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net I don't mean this to sound like a yes, but, but you have identified 12 podlings that aren't new and aren't ready to graduate.  Are there active plans to address the top issue

Re: Machine account request - www.apache.org

2012-02-06 Thread Sam Ruby
audit. Finally, this discussion should continue on the public jspwiki-dev list. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Machine account request - www.apache.org

2012-02-06 Thread Sam Ruby
or people which you quoted. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Nomination of Chris Mattman for the IPMC Chair (was: Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-03 Thread Sam Ruby
that would be expected to work. Cheers, -g - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Nomination of Chris Mattman for the IPMC Chair (was: Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-03 Thread Sam Ruby
Jakarta. We started by graduating Ant and Tomcat to be TLPs. This was once a new concept. Over time, less and less remained under the umbrella. Selecting individual podlings that seem best equipped to try out the new experiment would be a reasonable way to proceed. - Sam Ruby

Re: Nomination of Chris Mattman for the IPMC Chair (was: Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-03 Thread Sam Ruby
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: On Feb 3, 2012, at 5:50 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: What I care most about is addressed by this proposal: that there be an identified person to which feedback can be directed for each report. Sure, I get

Re: Incubator, or Incubation?

2012-02-03 Thread Sam Ruby
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Roy T. Fielding field...@gbiv.com wrote: On Feb 3, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: There is a place in the middle, which very much intrigues me.  Instead of replacing 1 IPMC with n PMCs, having n+1 PMCs, with the Incubator playing a role much like legal

Re: Time to vote the chair?

2012-02-02 Thread Sam Ruby
IMO, but the current chair should drive this process. Is it a foregone conclusion that we can't reach the point where we have only one candidate, and the vote itself is merely a confirmation? -Bertrand - Sam Ruby

Re: Do we have an email alias to address all podling's PPMCs?

2012-01-19 Thread Sam Ruby
there is a recurring need. -Bertrand - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenNLP as a TLP

2012-01-18 Thread Sam Ruby
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Jörn Kottmann kottm...@gmail.com wrote: William Silvia co...@apache.org http://incubator.apache.org/projects/opennlp.html lists his name as William Silva. Which is correct? Isabel Drost exam...@apache.org example@? - Sam Ruby

Re: New OpenNLP committers need commit rights

2012-01-17 Thread Sam Ruby
. Here is a link to the announcement on the opennlp list: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-opennlp-dev/201112.mbox/%3c4eeb1bdd@gmail.com%3E Thanks, Jörn - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general

Re: DeltaSpike IP clarifications

2012-01-17 Thread Sam Ruby
, but saves committers having to disclaim each commit as clause 7 would do. - Sam Ruby On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Matt Benson gudnabr...@gmail.com wrote: Adding deltaspike-dev back to the distribution: On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Gerhard Petracek gpetra...@apache.org wrote: ok

[Discuss] Clarify the role of the Champion as an incubation coordinator

2012-01-17 Thread Sam Ruby
to produce a full and complete report is not one of them. I also sense a strong intent to graduate. How to care on what we have now is another question. I expect this vote to pass, and if it does, I am willing to champion JSPWiki. - Sam Ruby

Re: New OpenNLP committers need commit rights

2012-01-17 Thread Sam Ruby
there was a hiccup. It should be resolved now. He used the https url to checkout and he can login to people.apache.org. Jörn - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail

Re: Actively retiring projects

2012-01-16 Thread Sam Ruby
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 3:59 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Sam Ruby ru

Re: [VOTE] Park Kato

2012-01-16 Thread Sam Ruby
and suggested that they be terminated. In fact, I would like to call on everybody to stop using the drama-filled term termination and focus on ensuring that reports submitted are timely and contain all of the relevant information. - Sam Ruby

Re: Actively retiring projects

2012-01-16 Thread Sam Ruby
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: snip. 20 Jul 2011:  ensure that long running incubating projects actually have a plausible  plan to graduate Thanks - I see

Re: Actively retiring projects

2012-01-16 Thread Sam Ruby
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 6:51 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: Terminating projects with active communities is the area of active dispute Stop the drama and misrepresentation. - Sam Ruby

Re: Improved Reporting [WAS Re: [VOTE] Park Kato]

2012-01-16 Thread Sam Ruby
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net w. snip I would like to call on everybody to snip  focus on ensuring that reports submitted are timely and contain all

Re: Actively retiring projects

2012-01-16 Thread Sam Ruby
on anyone's part http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html#graduated http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html#dormant http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html#retired Perhaps dormant would be an appropriate description of the Kato polding at this time? Robert - Sam Ruby

Re: [RT] Community over policy, and similar thoughts

2012-01-16 Thread Sam Ruby
be published on the ASF web site as a part of the ASF board meetings. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Actively retiring projects

2012-01-15 Thread Sam Ruby
that will join me. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Actively retiring projects

2012-01-15 Thread Sam Ruby
15, 2012 1:09 PM Subject: Re: Actively retiring projects On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 6:01 PM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:  On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote:   Now to go back and answer Ant's question directly,  Sam, what you replied

Re: Actively retiring projects

2012-01-15 Thread Sam Ruby
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: +1 Excessive snippage violation. Voting to terminate a project through lack of success sends a very clear message. Being

Re: Improviing quarterly reports

2012-01-12 Thread Sam Ruby
on a monthly schedule. If you have good mentors, they will catch on quick. If you find that you don't have any active mentors left, then that's the problem that needs to be addressed.        --- Noel - Sam Ruby

Re: Improviing quarterly reports

2012-01-12 Thread Sam Ruby
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 9:13 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 12:33 AM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote: We've repeatedly asked projects to focus on their graduation requirements

Re: Small but otherwise happy podlings

2012-01-11 Thread Sam Ruby
would like to see the Incubator bounce back the reports instead of lamely forwarding them onto the board. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h

-1 on this months board report (was: Small but otherwise happy podlings)

2012-01-11 Thread Sam Ruby
Giraph Kafka Kitty Lucy Mesos (borderline, but planning a release is good) ODFToolkit Oozie - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h

Re: -1 on this months board report (was: Small but otherwise happy podlings)

2012-01-11 Thread Sam Ruby
,        Stuart - Sam Ruby P.S. I will state that we already have had a more meaningful discussion on this topic than has been typical for the incubator. I encourage others to participate in this discussion. Both people who agree with me and people see things differently. Anything would be better than

Re: -1 on this months board report (was: Small but otherwise happy podlings)

2012-01-11 Thread Sam Ruby
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Marcel Offermans marcel.offerm...@luminis.nl wrote: On Jan 11, 2012, at 23:49 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: -1 for forwarding no the following reports from projects that are over a year old and lacking crisp plan for graduatuation:  Celix A plan is being discussed

Re: -1 on this months board report (was: Small but otherwise happy podlings)

2012-01-11 Thread Sam Ruby
: I'm a mentor of JSPWiki. I, too, kicked off some discussions there that are only now starting to produce results. Note that I included JSPWiki in the list of projects who should be asked to report again next month. - Sam Ruby

Re: Small but otherwise happy podlings

2012-01-09 Thread Sam Ruby
, and the lack of committers were the only issue, then I would be comfortable with this podling graduating. - Sam Ruby [1] http://apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2011/board_minutes_2011_10_26.txt [2] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/isis.html

Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)

2012-01-08 Thread Sam Ruby
that have yet to (or never managed to) graduate: https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/#podling Here is an up-to-the-minute update on podlings by age (complete with a graph): https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/podlings/by-age - Sam Ruby

Re: Small but otherwise happy podlings

2012-01-08 Thread Sam Ruby
a recommendation based on that pattern. Be prepared to cite specific examples where those recommendations would be applied. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail

Re: Q. Forks without concensus?; A. anytime / depends / never without agreement

2012-01-07 Thread Sam Ruby
they wouldn't let them. Ralph - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Q. Forks without concensus?; A. anytime / depends / never without agreement

2012-01-07 Thread Sam Ruby
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote: On Jan 7, 2012, at 8:05 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote: On Jan 6, 2012, at 8:17 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: The ASF is not about code

Re: Q. Forks without concensus?; A. anytime / depends / never without agreement

2012-01-03 Thread Sam Ruby
for a project. We've even had destructive forks where both the fork and the original community ended up failing. We can, and should, make a decision based on the specifics of the community in question, and informed by our past experiences -- both successes and failures. Kalle - Sam Ruby

Re: Actively retiring projects

2011-12-21 Thread Sam Ruby
that they are executing on which will lead to graduation at some point. In this month's incubator report, I'm seeing an increase in podling reports that contain steps needed for graduation. Awareness is a great first step. - Sam Ruby

Re: [PROPOSAL] Clarify the role of the Champion as an incubation coordinator (was: should podlings have informal chairs?)

2011-11-23 Thread Sam Ruby
a champion continued championing after the podling was established.  - Dennis - Sam Ruby -Original Message- From: Marvin Humphrey [mailto:mar...@rectangular.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 14:34 To: general@incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL

Re: should podlings have informal chairs?

2011-11-22 Thread Sam Ruby
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: soft time limits (sign off copyright within 3 months or expect IPMC scrutiny) would probably be useful, I think. +1 Robert - Sam Ruby

Re: should podlings have informal chairs?

2011-11-21 Thread Sam Ruby
reports should be made available for review, possibly via a URL, the meat of the report that the board should be reviewing is the actions taken by the Incubator PMC to resolve any problems that are identified by podlings. - Sam Ruby

Re: should podlings have informal chairs?

2011-11-21 Thread Sam Ruby
vote to graduate (whether that votes passes or not doesn't matter, as long as the right people are engaged) is in the good category. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional

Re: should podlings have informal chairs?

2011-11-21 Thread Sam Ruby
properly. We should be reporting to the board about OUR work, not the work of the podlings.  Podlings should only be brought in for a few specific examplesto mention.  That's the first thing to correct. +1 - Sam Ruby

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