Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-24 Thread PK
Peng wrote: On 01/23/05 17:48, Douglas James Dunn wrote: um you go into X and load xterm and type glxgears XD Sorry. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list ctrl+alt+backspace -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-24 Thread Rick van Hattem
PK wrote: Peng wrote: On 01/23/05 17:48, Douglas James Dunn wrote: um you go into X and load xterm and type glxgears XD Sorry. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list ctrl+alt+backspace -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list If ctrl+alt+backspace isn't working then you could try logging in via

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-24 Thread Peng
On 01/24/05 20:28, Rick van Hattem wrote: If ctrl+alt+backspace isn't working then you could try logging in via ssh to kill X, if it crashes badly then thats usually the only way. That's rather hard to do without another working computer. Either way, I can at least do the Alt-SysRq-K-S-U-B

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-24 Thread PK
Peng wrote: On 01/24/05 20:28, Rick van Hattem wrote: If ctrl+alt+backspace isn't working then you could try logging in via ssh to kill X, if it crashes badly then thats usually the only way. That's rather hard to do without another working computer. Either way, I can at least do the

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-24 Thread Peng
On 01/24/05 21:04, PK wrote: Peng wrote: On 01/24/05 20:28, Rick van Hattem wrote: If ctrl+alt+backspace isn't working then you could try logging in via ssh to kill X, if it crashes badly then thats usually the only way. That's rather hard to do without another working computer. Either way, I

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-24 Thread Douglas James Dunn
http://odin.prohosting.com/wedge01/gentoo-radeon-faq.html a good FAQ on the drivers, might want to take a look through that On Mon, 2005-01-24 at 17:02 +, Peng wrote: On 01/24/05 21:04, PK wrote: Peng wrote: On 01/24/05 20:28, Rick van Hattem wrote: If ctrl+alt+backspace isn't

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-23 Thread Douglas James Dunn
um you go into X and load xterm and type glxgears On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 02:31 +, Peng wrote: On 01/22/05 19:16, Douglas James Dunn wrote: so far you have it completly disabled by having it set to 0 in xorg.conf. my guess it would either disable it or change it to one x. what I would

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-22 Thread Peng
On 01/20/05 17:57, Peng wrote: On 01/20/05 14:12, Douglas James Dunn wrote: you try going into your bios and lowering the AGP settings to 4x or 2x? It worked for me when AGP crashed my box No, I didn't. Forgot to. I'll try to remember to do it later. :P Don't feel like rebooting at the moment.

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-22 Thread Douglas James Dunn
so far you have it completly disabled by having it set to 0 in xorg.conf. my guess it would either disable it or change it to one x. what I would do is re-enable it in xorg.conf and and try it disabled in the bios. but before you do run a glxgears and see if it improves it any if you disable it

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-20 Thread Douglas James Dunn
should On Wed, 2005-01-19 at 19:57 +, Peng wrote: I finally went and upgraded to kernel 2.6.10-gentoo-r6 (I somehow managed not to screw everything up, except forgetting to emerge the nVidia drivers again :D ), and everything still crashes. Good thing is that the AltGr-K-S-U-B thing

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-20 Thread Douglas James Dunn
you try going into your bios and lowering the AGP settings to 4x or 2x? It worked for me when AGP crashed my box On Wed, 2005-01-19 at 19:57 +, Peng wrote: I finally went and upgraded to kernel 2.6.10-gentoo-r6 (I somehow managed not to screw everything up, except forgetting to emerge the

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-20 Thread Peng
On 01/20/05 14:12, Douglas James Dunn wrote: you try going into your bios and lowering the AGP settings to 4x or 2x? It worked for me when AGP crashed my box No, I didn't. Forgot to. I'll try to remember to do it later. :P Don't feel like rebooting at the moment. And anyway, turning off NnAGP

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-19 Thread Peng
I finally went and upgraded to kernel 2.6.10-gentoo-r6 (I somehow managed not to screw everything up, except forgetting to emerge the nVidia drivers again :D ), and everything still crashes. Good thing is that the AltGr-K-S-U-B thing works fine. Thanks for that. I guess I'll just have to keep

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread Tim Watson
I had some similar problems with that kernel which i solved by using the noapic and nolapic kernel options. You can turn these on in your grub config. Make sure /boot is mounted, and edit your /boot/grub/grub.conf file. Find the line for your current kernel that looks like this: 'kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread peter . gantner
I have made the following expierience with frozen X: *) Even if normal keyboard doesn't work, the Magic SysRq often stil does and allows for a clean reboot by holding AltGr and pressing k then s then u then b -- Kill all processes, Sync all drives, Umount all drives, Boot the system. *) the

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread Peng
On 01/16/05 12:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have made the following expierience with frozen X: *) Even if normal keyboard doesn't work, the Magic SysRq often stil does and allows for a clean reboot by holding AltGr and pressing k then s then u then b -- Kill all processes, Sync all drives,

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread Peng
On 01/16/05 11:36, Tim Watson wrote: I had some similar problems with that kernel which i solved by using the noapic and nolapic kernel options. You can turn these on in your grub config. Make sure /boot is mounted, and edit your /boot/grub/grub.conf file. Find the line for your current

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread Douglas James Dunn
I would really suggest trying to switch eventually though it should work on 2.6.9 but there is a lot of bug fixes on 2.6.10. It shouldnt work too much different from your kernel you have now you just have to make sure you have all the correct kernel modules loaded for your hardware. once you have

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread Douglas James Dunn
you can always change back till you get it to work On Sun, 2005-01-16 at 12:30 +, Peng wrote: On 01/16/05 17:23, Douglas James Dunn wrote: I would really suggest trying to switch eventually though it should work on 2.6.9 but there is a lot of bug fixes on 2.6.10. It shouldnt work too

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread Peng
On 01/16/05 17:36, Douglas James Dunn wrote: you can always change back till you get it to work True. Huh... It looks like 'make menuconfig' transferred over my old configuration... I didn't know it did that. It hadn't in the past. I have a question: I don't really know how to get sound to work.

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread Douglas James Dunn
first um you have to make sure you delete the linux link in /usr/src then create a new link from the new kernel source to linux. Ill look for what you need. On Sun, 2005-01-16 at 12:44 +, Peng wrote: On 01/16/05 17:36, Douglas James Dunn wrote: you can always change back till you get it

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread Peng
On 01/16/05 17:50, Douglas James Dunn wrote: first um you have to make sure you delete the linux link in /usr/src then create a new link from the new kernel source to linux. Ill look for what you need. I did. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread Douglas James Dunn
you need to know what kind of sound device you use and go look in device drivers/sound/advanced linux sound architecture you choose the type of device you use and compile it as a module On Sun, 2005-01-16 at 12:44 +, Peng wrote: On 01/16/05 17:36, Douglas James Dunn wrote: you can always

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread Douglas James Dunn
im not sure it does. I would still go in and check everything you need to add to make sure its right. On Sun, 2005-01-16 at 12:54 +, Peng wrote: On 01/16/05 17:50, Douglas James Dunn wrote: first um you have to make sure you delete the linux link in /usr/src then create a new link from

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread Peng
On 01/16/05 17:58, Douglas James Dunn wrote: im not sure it does. I would still go in and check everything you need to add to make sure its right. I am looking around, and many things I remember not being default but I did change are configured how I had them. The processor type says

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread peter . gantner
On Sunday, the 16th of January, Peng thusly spake: Err... AltGr? a.k.a Right Alt. Whatever activates the SysRq key on your keyboard, usually PrtSc or Print on IBM PC keyboards. You can also configure the key by writing a character to /proc/sysrq-trigger See

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread Peng
On 01/16/05 18:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday, the 16th of January, Peng thusly spake: Err... AltGr? a.k.a Right Alt. Whatever activates the SysRq key on your keyboard, usually PrtSc or Print on IBM PC keyboards. You can also configure the key by writing a character to

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread Peng
On 01/16/05 17:57, Douglas James Dunn wrote: you need to know what kind of sound device you use and go look in device drivers/sound/advanced linux sound architecture you choose the type of device you use and compile it as a module I'm using a Biostar iDEQ 200N SFF system. :D

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread Douglas James Dunn
im really not sure about onboard audio i always personally stay away from onboard audio/video/nic, you could try making all the modules in there and seeing which coldplug uses then you know what works On Sun, 2005-01-16 at 13:32 +, Peng wrote: On 01/16/05 17:57, Douglas James Dunn wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread Peng
On 01/16/05 18:59, Douglas James Dunn wrote: im really not sure about onboard audio i always personally stay away from onboard audio/video/nic, you could try making all the modules in there and seeing which coldplug uses then you know what works Hmm, for the moment, I think I might just not have

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread Peng
On 01/16/05 14:12, Peng wrote: On 01/16/05 18:59, Douglas James Dunn wrote: im really not sure about onboard audio i always personally stay away from onboard audio/video/nic, you could try making all the modules in there and seeing which coldplug uses then you know what works Hmm, for the moment,

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread peter . gantner
On Sunday, the 16th of January, Peng thusly spake: On 01/16/05 18:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday, the 16th of January, Peng thusly spake: Err... AltGr? a.k.a Right Alt. Whatever activates the SysRq key on your keyboard, usually PrtSc or Print on IBM PC keyboards. You can also configure

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread Peng
On 01/16/05 20:52, Nick Rout wrote: On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:32:25 + Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 01/16/05 17:57, Douglas James Dunn wrote: you need to know what kind of sound device you use and go look in device drivers/sound/advanced linux sound architecture you choose the type of

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread Peng
On 01/16/05 21:33, Nick Rout wrote: On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:27:14 + Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml Ah! Thank you for the link. Hadn't thought to look at Gentoo's documentation page for a guide... It mentions both a Via VT82C686B and the AC97. what

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread peter . gantner
On Sunday, the 16th of January, Peng thusly spake: On 01/16/05 19:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday, the 16th of January, Peng thusly spake: On 01/16/05 18:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday, the 16th of January, Peng thusly spake: B means do a hard reboot O means do a hard poweroff

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread Nick Rout
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:01:03 + Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It mentions both a Via VT82C686B and the AC97. what mentions both a Via VT82C686B and the AC97? the biostar page doesn't seem to? The lspci command the Gentoo page you linked says to do does. do you mean lspci on

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread Peng
On 01/16/05 22:12, Nick Rout wrote: On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:01:03 + Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It mentions both a Via VT82C686B and the AC97. what mentions both a Via VT82C686B and the AC97? the biostar page doesn't seem to? The lspci command the Gentoo page you linked says to do does. do

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread Calvin Walton
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:22:45 +, Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It said it on my system... Oogh. I still can't figure out how to copy and paste. But it mentions the nForce2 AC97 chip and the VT82C686B. I bet it looks like this (copied from my nforce board): :00:05.0 Multimedia audio

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread Peng
On 01/16/05 22:50, Calvin Walton wrote: On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:22:45 +, Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It said it on my system... Oogh. I still can't figure out how to copy and paste. But it mentions the nForce2 AC97 chip and the VT82C686B. I bet it looks like this (copied from my nforce

RE: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread Dave Nebinger
Since I should have included some details, I'm using version 6.8.0-r3 of the X.org X server or whatever it's called, and the keyword-masked 1.0.6629-r1 nVidia drivers (would use the not-keyword-masked version, but it refused to work). Both were installed through Portage. Kernel is

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread Nick Rout
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:33:17 -0500 Dave Nebinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not at all happy with the nvidia card (and have said as much in the past) so I'm moving on to a newer card with better linux/x support. Dave such as? -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org

RE: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread Dave Nebinger
a working 2.6.10 kernel that matches (more or less) your configure and working 2.6.9 kernel. -Original Message- From: Peng [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 7:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE? On 01/16/05 17:23, Douglas

RE: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread Dave Nebinger
to probably go with one of the suggested cards. -Original Message- From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 7:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE? On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:33:17 -0500 Dave Nebinger [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-16 Thread Peng
On 01/17/05 00:33, Dave Nebinger wrote: Since I should have included some details, I'm using version 6.8.0-r3 of the X.org X server or whatever it's called, and the keyword-masked 1.0.6629-r1 nVidia drivers (would use the not-keyword-masked version, but it refused to work). Both were installed

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-15 Thread Douglas James Dunn
First all I can say is I hardly ever have it freeze on me unless I have agp or my video drivers or something missing or configured incorrectly. I'm not sure if I understand what your are saying here. Can you or cant you change to a different console. In theory if you log in and startx in your

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-15 Thread Nick Rout
I had similar symptoms for a while but it seems to have stopped happening. The most successful way of fixing it was to ssh in from another computer, su to root and viciously kill X, using the -9 option if necessary. On Sat, 2005-01-15 at 17:11 +, Peng wrote: Unfortunately, X or KDE (I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-15 Thread Peng
On 01/16/05 00:06, Nick Rout wrote: I had similar symptoms for a while but it seems to have stopped happening. The most successful way of fixing it was to ssh in from another computer, su to root and viciously kill X, using the -9 option if necessary. I, unfortunately, can't do that, since this is

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-15 Thread Peng
On 01/15/05 23:23, Douglas James Dunn wrote: First all I can say is I hardly ever have it freeze on me unless I have agp or my video drivers or something missing or configured incorrectly. I'm not sure if I understand what your are saying here. Can you or cant you change to a different console.

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-15 Thread Peng
On 01/15/05 19:14, Peng wrote: On 01/16/05 00:06, Nick Rout wrote: I had similar symptoms for a while but it seems to have stopped happening. The most successful way of fixing it was to ssh in from another computer, su to root and viciously kill X, using the -9 option if necessary. I,

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-15 Thread Douglas James Dunn
my first suggestion is to make sure that you have the correct chipset and drivers installed for video video card, being the correct kernel module for the chipset and the correct driver via emerge. On Sat, 2005-01-15 at 19:23 +, Peng wrote: On 01/15/05 23:23, Douglas James Dunn wrote: First

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-15 Thread Douglas James Dunn
it would also help if you could look in your X log for any error messages it might display. and post them. On Sun, 2005-01-16 at 01:16 +, Douglas James Dunn wrote: my first suggestion is to make sure that you have the correct chipset and drivers installed for video video card, being the

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-15 Thread Peng
On 01/16/05 01:16, Douglas James Dunn wrote: my first suggestion is to make sure that you have the correct chipset and drivers installed for video video card, being the correct kernel module for the chipset and the correct driver via emerge. I think it may be irony that it foze while I was typing

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-15 Thread Calvin Walton
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:11:09 +, Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, X or KDE (I don't know which one...) freezes fairly often... I can, of course, hit the reset button on the front of the computer, but that's not good a good thing to do. Is there anyything else I may be able to

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-15 Thread Peng
On 01/16/05 02:31, Calvin Walton wrote: On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:11:09 +, Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, X or KDE (I don't know which one...) freezes fairly often... I can, of course, hit the reset button on the front of the computer, but that's not good a good thing to do. Is

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?

2005-01-15 Thread Douglas James Dunn
that doesnt really fix it though. I defititly had the same problem when i put in a new nvidia card. changing NvAGP just disables AGP i would suspect the kernel isnt compiled right. it definitely looks like an AGP problem. you really cant render anything graphic intense without it, it basically