[gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-10-11, Alan McKinnon wrote: > He may also want to ask the question "Do I *really* need > acroread?" and get the full complete answer. In my experience > very few people actually need all the features in acroread, > and okular|evince are quite adequate Do okular or eveince have a "print c

[gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-11 Thread walt
On 10/11/2009 05:14 PM, Denis wrote: >> He may also want to ask the question "Do I *really* need acroread?" and get >> the full complete answer. In my experience very few people actually need all >> the features in acroread, and okular|evince are quite adequate > > I am flexible on acroread, but a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-11 Thread Denis
>> But X crashing from my use of Mathematica is absolutely unacceptable - > > I agree, it shouldn't crash.  Are you starting Mathematica by clicking on > an icon in a menu?  If so, I'd suggest starting it from an xterm command > prompt because you may see some helpful error messages before the cras

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-11 Thread Brandon Vargo
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 21:46 -0400, Denis wrote: > >> But X crashing from my use of Mathematica is absolutely unacceptable - > > > > I agree, it shouldn't crash. Are you starting Mathematica by clicking on > > an icon in a menu? If so, I'd suggest starting it from an xterm command > > prompt becau

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-11 Thread Denis
Brandon, Thanks very much for all this information about Mathematica - that gives me a glimmer of hope! > 1) If you haven't already, recompile your xf86* packages. Somehow I > missed those when upgrading X, which caused issues for me. I did recompile all the xf86 packages that qlist came up with

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-11 Thread Brandon Vargo
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 01:18 -0400, Denis wrote: > libguide.so I don't have this one, and I don't know what it is. > libgmp.so.3 This is probably the gmp (GNU Multiple Precision) arithmetic library. > libvml.so I don't have this one, but I'm pretty sure it is part of Intel MKL (see below). > l

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-12 Thread Denis
Brandon, Thank you for helping me along here! Here is the output of "ldd Mathematica": linux-gate.so.1 => (0xb8042000) libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0xb800c000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7ff4000) librt.so.1 => /lib/librt.so.1 (0xb7feb000)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-12 Thread Brandon Vargo
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 03:18 -0400, Denis wrote: > Brandon, > > Thank you for helping me along here! > > Here is the output of "ldd Mathematica": > > linux-gate.so.1 => (0xb8042000) > libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0xb800c000) > libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 13 October 2009 00:33:02 Brandon Vargo wrote: > > Basically, the only thing that triggers the crash is if I hold down > > the mouse button and drag the scrollbar UP right after I drag it DOWN. > > Dragging it down doesn't seem to make any difference by itself and > > hasn't crashed the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-12 Thread Denis
I tried a few things today: 1) rebuilt all x11-libs, media-libs, and anything I could think of that would be related to x11-libs (such as gtk+, qt...) 2) downgraded to xorg-server-1.5 Neither of these things helped. Alan's hypothesis sounds plausible, but I don't even know which package to po

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-12 Thread Dale
Denis wrote: > I tried a few things today: > > 1) rebuilt all x11-libs, media-libs, and anything I could think of > that would be related to x11-libs (such as gtk+, qt...) > > 2) downgraded to xorg-server-1.5 > > Neither of these things helped. Alan's hypothesis sounds plausible, > but I don't e

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-12 Thread Stroller
On 13 Oct 2009, at 01:25, Denis wrote: I tried a few things today: ... Neither of these things helped. Alan's hypothesis sounds plausible, but I don't even know which package to point fingers at! Have you `emerge -e world` yet? Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-12 Thread Denis
> Have you `emerge -e world` yet? > > Stroller. I have that going now. I offloaded OpenOffice to shorten the duration of the rebuild, and I don't have KDE or Gnome - just fluxbox. So it should finish by sometime tomorrow, probably. There are 604 packages total. Instead of trying to rebuild X-r

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-13 Thread Denis
Ok, "emerge -e world" completed successfully. Bad news: X still crashes when scrolling in Mathematica... On to the downgrade of xcb then, as much as I'd rather not do that. As suggested, I would edit the world file to remove main X packages and then use emerge --depclean to prune out the danglers

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-13 Thread Dale
Denis wrote: > Ok, "emerge -e world" completed successfully. > > Bad news: X still crashes when scrolling in Mathematica... > > On to the downgrade of xcb then, as much as I'd rather not do that. > As suggested, I would edit the world file to remove main X packages > and then use emerge --depclean

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-13 Thread Denis
Perhaps I should try this procedure on my home gentoo box first. Here are my USE flags: X aac aim alsa ao bash-completion bdf branding bzip2 cairo cdda cddb cdparanoia cdr cpudetection djvu emacs encode exif firefox flac foomaticdb gif glut graphics gs gtk ieee1394 imagemagick imli

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 13 October 2009 21:04:54 Denis wrote: > Perhaps I should try this procedure on my home gentoo box first. > > Here are my USE flags: > > X aac aim alsa ao bash-completion bdf branding bzip2 cairo cdda cddb > cdparanoia cdr cpudetection djvu emacs encode exif firefox flac >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-14 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 13 October 2009 21:04:54 Denis wrote: > >> Perhaps I should try this procedure on my home gentoo box first. >> >> Here are my USE flags: >> >> X aac aim alsa ao bash-completion bdf branding bzip2 cairo cdda cddb >> cdparanoia cdr cpudetection djvu emac

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-14 Thread Denis
> Let us know what blows up.  ;-) > > Dale Nothing blew up ;-) I was successful removing X, downgrading, and getting X working again with xorg-server-1.5.3 and libxcb-1.1 FYI, the working package.mask file for this operation is: >=x11-libs/libXext-1.0.5 >=x11-libs/libX11-1.2 >=x11-libs/libxcb-1

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-14 Thread Dale
Denis wrote: >> Let us know what blows up. ;-) >> >> Dale >> > > Nothing blew up ;-) I was successful removing X, downgrading, and > getting X working again with xorg-server-1.5.3 and libxcb-1.1 > > FYI, the working package.mask file for this operation is: > > >> =x11-libs/libXext-1.0.5 >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-14 Thread William Kenworthy
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 12:50 -0400, Denis wrote: > > Let us know what blows up. ;-) > > > > Dale > > Nothing blew up ;-) I was successful removing X, downgrading, and > getting X working again with xorg-server-1.5.3 and libxcb-1.1 > Have you tried "strace'ing" mathematica to see why it dies? B

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-14 Thread Denis
> Have you tried "strace'ing" mathematica to see why it dies? > > BillK I ran an strace, but I can't make sense out of it. There's a bunch of polling and trying to access unavailable resources, from what I can see... The file is huge, but here is the tail end of it:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-14 Thread Dale
Denis wrote: >> Have you tried "strace'ing" mathematica to see why it dies? >> >> BillK >> > > I ran an strace, but I can't make sense out of it. There's a bunch of > polling and trying to access unavailable resources, from what I can > see... The file is huge, but here is the tail end of it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-14 Thread Stroller
On 14 Oct 2009, at 17:50, Denis wrote: ... While some folks here probably think this attempt foolish, I still think it was worth a try, and I learned some new things, which is always good. I don't think this attempt foolish - but I guess you're getting desperate. Having performed `emerge -

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-15 Thread Denis
Ordinarily, I would also point to I/O errors, but not this time. I have had this same version of Mathematica, 5.2, for *years*, on this same machine, over several kernels and several Xorg upgrades, and it was rock-solid. Not one X hang or crash. Ever. No error messages or I/O warnings ever. Th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-15 Thread Dale
Denis wrote: > Ordinarily, I would also point to I/O errors, but not this time. I > have had this same version of Mathematica, 5.2, for *years*, on this > same machine, over several kernels and several Xorg upgrades, and it > was rock-solid. Not one X hang or crash. Ever. No error messages or >