Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-10-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 17:19:57 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: I've promised myself for years since my apprentice days that I would one day built a valve amp from a kit. There's something about the warm glow from the tubes on a winter night that is appealing :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-10-06 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: I've promised myself for years since my apprentice days that I would one day built a valve amp from a kit. There's something about the warm glow from the tubes on a winter night that is appealing :-) I'd better hurry up and get on with it, I read that decent quality valves

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-10-06 Thread Adam Carter
I'd better hurry up and get on with it, I read that decent quality valves are becoming scarce and are generally only available from (what used to be) the USSR. There's a huge market for valves for guitar amps. I think supply is safe enough.

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Mittwoch, 19. September 2012, 16:18:34 schrieb Dale: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Mittwoch, 19. September 2012, 01:51:49 schrieb Dale: Raffaele BELARDI wrote: On 09/18/2012 11:03 PM, Dale wrote: And every day I hear about them finding more oil and gas that they didn't know was

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-21 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Mittwoch, 19. September 2012, 16:18:34 schrieb Dale: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Mittwoch, 19. September 2012, 01:51:49 schrieb Dale: Raffaele BELARDI wrote: On 09/18/2012 11:03 PM, Dale wrote: And every day I hear about them finding more oil and gas that

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-21 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Mittwoch, 19. September 2012, 16:18:34 schrieb Dale: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Mittwoch, 19. September 2012, 01:51:49 schrieb Dale: Raffaele BELARDI wrote: On 09/18/2012 11:03 PM, Dale

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 15:25:49 -0400 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: Guys, this fell into politics, one of those categories of things you don't discuss in polite company. Not that I'm accusing anyone of being polite, Phew, glad to hear that last bit. You had me worried for a second, what

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-21 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 15:25:49 -0400 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: Guys, this fell into politics, one of those categories of things you don't discuss in polite company. Not that I'm accusing anyone of being

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-21 Thread Dale
Michael Mol wrote: On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Mittwoch, 19. September 2012, 16:18:34 schrieb Dale: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Mittwoch, 19. September 2012, 01:51:49 schrieb Dale: Raffaele BELARDI wrote: On 09/18/2012

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 15:52:17 -0400 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 15:25:49 -0400 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: Guys, this fell into politics, one of those categories of things

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-21 Thread Samuel Ports
Modern version http://www.babeland.com/hitachi-magic-wand/d/2487 Sent from my iPhone On Sep 21, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 15:52:17 -0400 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Alan McKinnon

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-19 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
On 09/18/2012 11:03 PM, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:53:53 -0500 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: When I moved in with my GF, her electric bill shoot up to the roof (I brought my 46 LCD TV, PlayStation 3, and in total 5 computers and other electronics).

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-19 Thread Dale
Raffaele BELARDI wrote: On 09/18/2012 11:03 PM, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:53:53 -0500 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: When I moved in with my GF, her electric bill shoot up to the roof (I brought my 46 LCD TV, PlayStation 3, and in total 5 computers

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 19 September 2012 01:23:54 Dale wrote: 96 watts for standby is excessive for sure. What the heck is that thing doing with all that power? O_O In a word: wasting it! I think it must be a class-A amplifier, or whatever the modern equivalent is. -- Rgds Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-19 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 19 September 2012 01:23:54 Dale wrote: 96 watts for standby is excessive for sure. What the heck is that thing doing with all that power? O_O In a word: wasting it! I think it must be a class-A amplifier, or whatever the modern equivalent is. I bet

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:57:17 +0100 Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: I have an audio amplifier downstairs that consumes 96W on standby. Now that _is_ excessive. Keeps that corner of the room warm though. Holy sweet mother of god. 96W??? What you got in that thing? Thermionic

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 19 September 2012 10:28:44 Dale wrote: I bet it is what we used to call a class AB amp. I bet you're right, now that you remind me of what I used to know. 96 watts on standby. That doesn't sound like standing by as much as it is ready to make noise. lol Is it old or new? I

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 19 September 2012 12:45:42 Alan McKinnon wrote: Holy sweet mother of god. 96W??? What you got in that thing? Thermionic tubes (aka valves)? I was surprised too, so I took care to ensure I was only measuring that beast, and not something else in the house as well. -- Rgds

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-19 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Mittwoch, 19. September 2012, 01:51:49 schrieb Dale: Raffaele BELARDI wrote: On 09/18/2012 11:03 PM, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:53:53 -0500 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: When I moved in with my GF, her electric bill shoot up to the roof

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-19 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 19 September 2012 10:28:44 Dale wrote: I bet it is what we used to call a class AB amp. I bet you're right, now that you remind me of what I used to know. I don't know its power output but I bet it sounds good at low sound levels. On the class AB scale, it

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-19 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Mittwoch, 19. September 2012, 01:51:49 schrieb Dale: Raffaele BELARDI wrote: On 09/18/2012 11:03 PM, Dale wrote: And every day I hear about them finding more oil and gas that they didn't know was there before. I am sure everybody would love to hear about

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-18 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 18 September 2012 02:13:14 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: I resent the kernel's insistence on deciding when my monitor should be switched off. I'm perfectly capable of doing that myself, thank you very

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-18 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Tuesday 18 September 2012 02:13:14 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: I resent the kernel's insistence on deciding when my monitor

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-18 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag, 17. September 2012, 12:57:49 schrieb Dale: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 16. September 2012, 20:39:36 schrieb Dale: The important part is about 'if you are unsure about this, say N here'. Well, I don't think I need USB remote wakeup or anything so I don't think I need

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-18 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Montag, 17. September 2012, 12:57:49 schrieb Dale: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 16. September 2012, 20:39:36 schrieb Dale: The important part is about 'if you are unsure about this, say N here'. Well, I don't think I need USB remote wakeup or anything

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-18 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Montag, 17. September 2012, 12:57:49 schrieb Dale: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 16. September 2012, 20:39:36 schrieb Dale: The important part is about 'if you are unsure about this, say

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-18 Thread Dale
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Montag, 17. September 2012, 12:57:49 schrieb Dale: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 16. September 2012, 20:39:36 schrieb Dale: The important part is about 'if

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:53:53 -0500 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: When I moved in with my GF, her electric bill shoot up to the roof (I brought my 46 LCD TV, PlayStation 3, and in total 5 computers and other electronics). After a couple of months of shock of seeing the electric

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-18 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:53:53 -0500 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: When I moved in with my GF, her electric bill shoot up to the roof (I brought my 46 LCD TV, PlayStation 3, and in total 5 computers and other electronics). After a couple of months of shock of

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:03:15 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: My biggest expenses, refrigeration and heating/cooling. I have a large fridge, two deep freezers, two window A/C's for summer and a large heater for the winter. Compare any of those to my computer, the computer is a

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-18 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 18 September 2012 22:03:15 Dale wrote: My biggest expenses, refrigeration and heating/cooling. I have a large fridge, two deep freezers, two window A/C's for summer and a large heater for the winter. Compare any of those to my computer, the computer is a rounding error. My main

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-18 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: On Tuesday 18 September 2012 22:03:15 Dale wrote: My biggest expenses, refrigeration and heating/cooling. I have a large fridge, two deep freezers, two window A/C's for summer and a large heater for the winter. Compare any of those to my computer, the computer is a

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Sonntag, 16. September 2012, 20:39:36 schrieb Dale: Howdy, I was doing a update a while back and noticed a ewarn, enotice or something going by. I used the elogviewer to go back and dig it out. This is what it says: Found sources for kernel version: 3.5.0-gentoo Checking for suitable

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-17 Thread covici
Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Sonntag, 16. September 2012, 20:39:36 schrieb Dale: Howdy, I was doing a update a while back and noticed a ewarn, enotice or something going by. I used the elogviewer to go back and dig it out. This is what it says: Found

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-17 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 16. September 2012, 20:39:36 schrieb Dale: The important part is about 'if you are unsure about this, say N here'. Well, I don't think I need USB remote wakeup or anything so I don't think I need this but at the same time, udisk is giving me notice that

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag, 17. September 2012, 12:34:12 schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Sonntag, 16. September 2012, 20:39:36 schrieb Dale: Howdy, I was doing a update a while back and noticed a ewarn, enotice or something going by. I used

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-17 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Montag, 17. September 2012, 12:34:12 schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Sonntag, 16. September 2012, 20:39:36 schrieb Dale: Howdy, I was

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-17 Thread Dale
Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Montag, 17. September 2012, 12:34:12 schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com: OK, sorry if this is a dumb question, but I did search for it using make menuconfig, but could not actually find

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-17 Thread Felix Kuperjans
Dale wrote: Howdy, I was doing a update a while back and noticed a ewarn, enotice or something going by. I used the elogviewer to go back and dig it out. This is what it says: Found sources for kernel version: 3.5.0-gentoo Checking for suitable kernel configuration options... ERROR

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-17 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Montag, 17. September 2012, 12:34:12 schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com: OK, sorry if this is a dumb question, but I did

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-17 Thread Dale
Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Montag, 17. September 2012, 12:34:12 schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com: OK, sorry if this is a dumb

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-17 Thread Dale
Felix Kuperjans wrote: Dale wrote: Howdy, I was doing a update a while back and noticed a ewarn, enotice or something going by. I used the elogviewer to go back and dig it out. This is what it says: Found sources for kernel version: 3.5.0-gentoo Checking for suitable kernel configuration

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-17 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Montag, 17. September 2012,

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-17 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 17 September 2012 16:57:49 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: so what? is power managment not a good idea on a desktop Not on this one, no. It spends its life running BOINC applications. You know, contributing something back for all the help I've gained. -- Rgds Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Monday 17 September 2012 16:57:49 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: so what? is power managment not a good idea on a desktop Not on this one, no. It spends its life running BOINC applications. You know, contributing

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-17 Thread Dale
Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Montag, 17.

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-17 Thread Dale
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: You don't leave the monitor turned on and disable the power off features of it, right? raises hand I leave mine on unless I turn off my puter too. Actually, I just tested the power save thingy and for some reason, mine doesn't cut the monitor off. So, mine runs

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-17 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 17 September 2012 22:22:50 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: I believe that's the beauty of options like CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND. If you leave the machine running crunching numbers (of whatever), with USB_SUSPEND the devices not used (say, the backup disk you transfer to the results of your

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-17 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Monday 17 September 2012 22:22:50 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: I believe that's the beauty of options like CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND. If you leave the machine running crunching numbers (of whatever), with USB_SUSPEND

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Monday 17 September 2012 22:22:50 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: I believe that's the beauty of options like CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND. If you leave the machine running crunching numbers (of whatever), with USB_SUSPEND

[gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-16 Thread Dale
Howdy, I was doing a update a while back and noticed a ewarn, enotice or something going by. I used the elogviewer to go back and dig it out. This is what it says: Found sources for kernel version: 3.5.0-gentoo Checking for suitable kernel configuration options... ERROR (setup)

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] The important part is about 'if you are unsure about this, say N here'. Well, I don't think I need USB remote wakeup or anything so I don't think I need this but at the same time, udisk is giving me notice that it should

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-16 Thread Dale
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] The important part is about 'if you are unsure about this, say N here'. Well, I don't think I need USB remote wakeup or anything so I don't think I need this but at the same time, udisk is

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-16 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Sep 17, 2012 10:21 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] The important part is about 'if you are unsure about this, say N here'. Well, I don't think I need USB remote wakeup or anything

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-16 Thread Dale
Pandu Poluan wrote: Kind of off-topic, but... For backups, I prefer a bunch of disks in a RAID configuration. After all, what good is an online backup system if the data becomes corrupted without me realizing it... I heard QNAP makes good ones. Or I can always make an LVM-based one,

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

2012-09-16 Thread Pandu Poluan
True... Had I only one computer, I would've gone the USB 3 route... 2 ext HD, I backup to one for one or two weeks, then deposit the drive to an off-site location, swapping it with the other HD, and use the second HD for the next period. Problem is, using a USB drive means I have to move it