major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-03 Thread Dan Winship
I've just committed a huge update to libgweather's Locations.xml.in. >From an i18n perspective, the big changes are that a lot of strings representing airport names, etc, went away and were replaced with actual city names. Also, many city names in some countries were replaced with better-localized/

Re: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-04 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Sonntag, den 03.08.2008, 21:24 -0400 schrieb Dan Winship: > I've just committed a huge update to libgweather's Locations.xml.in. > >From an i18n perspective, the big changes are that a lot of strings > representing airport names, etc, went away and were replaced with actual > city names. Also, m

Re: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-04 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:24 AM, Dan Winship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've just committed a huge update to libgweather's Locations.xml.in. > From an i18n perspective, the big changes are that a lot of strings > representing airport names, etc, went away and were replaced with actual > city names

Re: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-04 Thread Kenneth Nielsen
2008/8/4 Andre Klapper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Am Sonntag, den 03.08.2008, 21:24 -0400 schrieb Dan Winship: > > I've just committed a huge update to libgweather's Locations.xml.in. > > >From an i18n perspective, the big changes are that a lot of strings > > representing airport names, etc, went away

Re: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-04 Thread Dan Winship
Andre Klapper wrote: > Am Sonntag, den 03.08.2008, 21:24 -0400 schrieb Dan Winship: >> I've just committed a huge update to libgweather's Locations.xml.in. >> >From an i18n perspective, the big changes are that a lot of strings >> representing airport names, etc, went away and were replaced with ac

Re: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-04 Thread Dan Winship
Simos Xenitellis wrote: > For Greece I have noticed the following, > > a. The names in the original strings now have accents, such as > Alexandroúpolis, which helps non-native speakers. This is cool, but > also means that more messages require attention for subtle changes. > I think it's a move to

Re: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-04 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Dan Winship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Simos Xenitellis wrote: >> For Greece I have noticed the following, >> >> a. The names in the original strings now have accents, such as >> Alexandroúpolis, which helps non-native speakers. This is cool, but >> also means tha

Re: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-04 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Sonntag, den 03.08.2008, 21:24 -0400 schrieb Dan Winship: > > I've just committed a huge update to libgweather's Locations.xml.in. > > >From an i18n perspective, the big changes are that a lot of strings > > representing airport names, etc, went away and were replaced with > actual > > city nam

Re: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-04 Thread Dan Winship
Andre Klapper wrote: > #: ../data/Locations.xml.in.h:40 > msgid "Abilene Regional Airport" > #: ../data/Locations.xml.in.h:50 > msgid "Abumusa Island, Abumusa Airport" > #: ../data/Locations.xml.in.h:769 > msgid "Babelthuap Island, Babelthuap /Koror Airport" > #: ../data/Locations.xml.in.h:2301 > m

Re: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-04 Thread Kenneth Nielsen
2008/8/4 Dan Winship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Andre Klapper wrote: > > Am Sonntag, den 03.08.2008, 21:24 -0400 schrieb Dan Winship: > >> I've just committed a huge update to libgweather's Locations.xml.in. > >> >From an i18n perspective, the big changes are that a lot of strings > >> representing air

Re: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-05 Thread Александър Шопов
This immense change is something that I personally do not approve of. Translating cities, huts, hamlets and jerk water somewhere is no particular fun. And there is no particular use of this. I as a coordinator of the Bulgarian Gnome project am putting translation of the places in gweather in the t

Re: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-05 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 21:42 +0300, Александър Шопов wrote: > This immense change is something that I personally do not approve of. > Translating cities, huts, hamlets and jerk water somewhere is no > particular fun. And there is no particular use of this. > I as a coordinator of the Bulgarian Gnom

Re: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-05 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Dienstag, den 05.08.2008, 21:42 +0300 schrieb Александър Шопов: > I cannot think of any motif for their deed but the direst passion to be > blogged about in linuxhaters. Though I'm also not in favor of this, I'd prefer to keep this discussion rational. The reason for this commit does have been

Re: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-05 Thread Kenneth Nielsen
2008/8/5 Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 21:42 +0300, Александър Шопов wrote: > > This immense change is something that I personally do not approve of. > > Translating cities, huts, hamlets and jerk water somewhere is no > > particular fun. And there is no particular us

Re: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-05 Thread Claude Paroz
Le lundi 04 août 2008 à 07:37 -0400, Dan Winship a écrit : > Andre Klapper wrote: > > Am Sonntag, den 03.08.2008, 21:24 -0400 schrieb Dan Winship: > >> I've just committed a huge update to libgweather's Locations.xml.in. > >> >From an i18n perspective, the big changes are that a lot of strings > >>

Re: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-05 Thread Ilkka Tuohela
On Aug 5, 2008, at 21:46 , Behdad Esfahbod wrote: On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 21:42 +0300, Александър Шопов wrote: This immense change is something that I personally do not approve of. Translating cities, huts, hamlets and jerk water somewhere is no particular fun. And there is no particular use of

Re: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-05 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 05 août 2008, à 22:56 +0300, Ilkka Tuohela a écrit : > Our team, finnish, will follow do the tedious task of redoing all of > gweather before release, I just want to remind everyone: try to write > good English whenever you write some terms to translate. Any change you > need to do to

Re: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-05 Thread Александър Шопов
But how to act rational in an irrational world? Oh, my dear. You have taken the rational high ground now, have you? I did complain loudly last time this geographical nightmare was put on translators: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2005-August/msg00358.html Mostly the same words, san

Re: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-05 Thread Dan Winship
Claude Paroz wrote: > Le lundi 04 août 2008 à 07:37 -0400, Dan Winship a écrit : > Dan, do you have criteria to include new cities? > For example, for Liechtenstein, a very small country of 160 km2 and > 35000 inhabitants, there is 11 cities. What's the use case? The vast Liechtensteinian GNOME ha

Re: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-06 Thread Claude Paroz
Le mardi 05 août 2008 à 22:59 -0400, Dan Winship a écrit : > Claude Paroz wrote: > > Le lundi 04 août 2008 à 07:37 -0400, Dan Winship a écrit : > > Dan, do you have criteria to include new cities? > > For example, for Liechtenstein, a very small country of 160 km2 and > > 35000 inhabitants, there i

Re: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-06 Thread Djihed Afifi
Hi, I followed the thread. This update is a lot of stuff. And it seems that it's still changing constantly. First, are you absolutely sure this is stable now? I won't touch this until it is. I personally can't help but think it isn't. I am not sure what methodology was used to prune or conside

Re: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-06 Thread Dan Winship
Djihed Afifi wrote: > First, are you absolutely sure this is stable now? I won't touch this > until it is. No, that's why I suggested people should wait a week or so before making major effort at translating it. Because as people report problems, I'm going to try to make improvements. > I am not

Re: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-06 Thread Djihed Afifi
What I fear is that this is just replacing a fundamentally flawed list with another fundamentally flawed list (even if less so). Are you sure you don't want to take the changes offline, make sure that you make it as good as possible, take a year if needed, then upload the almost perfect one? On t

Re: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-11 Thread Dan Winship
Sorry about not getting back to this sooner. I talked with Vincent about this (with him wearing his libgweather maintainer hat, not his release team hat), and I think we agree that the possible scenarios are something like this, ranked from best to worst: 1. Keep new Locations.xml.in, all tran

Re: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-15 Thread Theppitak Karoonboonyanan
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 2:18 AM, Dan Winship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So we're not planning to revert Locations.xml.in. However, we will also > try to not make any more major changes to it in 2.24. (If people find > things that are horrifically broken, or that are regressions from 2.22, > we'l

Re: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-15 Thread Theppitak Karoonboonyanan
On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Theppitak Karoonboonyanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Although a bit late on this, I'm examining the provided locations in > Thailand. However, before filing bugs against it, I wonder what > reference source you used for generating Locations.xml.in, so I can > re

Re: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-20 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Le samedi 16 août 2008, à 13:12 +0700, Theppitak Karoonboonyanan a écrit : > On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Theppitak Karoonboonyanan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Besides, I wonder what was the reason behind having 3 duplicated > > entries for VTBD (Don Muang), one for "Ban Don Muang (1

Re: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-20 Thread Theppitak Karoonboonyanan
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Vincent Untz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Le samedi 16 août 2008, à 13:12 +0700, Theppitak Karoonboonyanan a écrit : >> On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Theppitak Karoonboonyanan >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Besides, I wonder what was the reason behin

Re: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-20 Thread Kenneth Nielsen
Hey everybody We need to come to some agreement on this soon 2008/8/11 Dan Winship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sorry about not getting back to this sooner. I talked with Vincent about > this (with him wearing his libgweather maintainer hat, not his release > team hat), and I think we agree that the pos

Re: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-20 Thread Gil Forcada
+10 to some kind of agreement, quite urgent if I'm allowed to add :) Cheers, El dc 20 de 08 de 2008 a les 14:08 +0200, en/na Kenneth Nielsen va escriure: > Hey everybody > We need to come to some agreement on this soon > > 2008/8/11 Dan Winship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sorry about not getti

Re: Fwd: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-20 Thread Dan Winship
Kenneth Nielsen wrote: > On another note, seeing the size of this change makes me wonder. It must > have taken an immence development effort to complete this update, > streching over quite some time, would it really have been so difficult > to warn us back when you began and then to commit every on

Re: Fwd: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-20 Thread Andre Klapper
Dan Winship píše v St 20. 08. 2008 v 15:44 -0400: > Kenneth Nielsen wrote: > > On another note, seeing the size of this change makes me wonder. It must > > have taken an immence development effort to complete this update, > > We need to come to some agreement on this soon > > Most of the translato

Re: Fwd: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-20 Thread Kenneth Nielsen
2008/8/20 Andre Klapper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Dan Winship píše v St 20. 08. 2008 v 15:44 -0400: > > Kenneth Nielsen wrote: > > > On another note, seeing the size of this change makes me wonder. It > must > > > have taken an immence development effort to complete this update, > > > We need to come

Re: Fwd: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-20 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Donnerstag, den 21.08.2008, 00:48 +0200 schrieb Kenneth Nielsen: > Yes, well I also got the idea that we sort of agreed on something > here, the only thing is that it is still in the statistics under gnome > 2.24, which it shouldn't be if we all agreed on your proposal. Err... I think I never p

Re: Fwd: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-20 Thread Kenneth Nielsen
2008/8/21 Andre Klapper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Am Donnerstag, den 21.08.2008, 00:48 +0200 schrieb Kenneth Nielsen: > > Yes, well I also got the idea that we sort of agreed on something > > here, the only thing is that it is still in the statistics under gnome > > 2.24, which it shouldn't be if we a

Re: Fwd: major libgweather Locations updates

2008-08-23 Thread Kenneth Nielsen
2008/8/21 Kenneth Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 2008/8/21 Andre Klapper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Am Donnerstag, den 21.08.2008, 00:48 +0200 schrieb Kenneth Nielsen: >> > Yes, well I also got the idea that we sort of agreed on something >> > here, the only thing is that it is still in the statistic