are saying.
Venantius J Pinto
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 05:01:01 -0800 (PST)
From: Rajan P. Parrikar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goan archetypes, stereotypes and caricatures
Venantius Pinto wrote:
Anyway, it appears that it would have been acceptable had Helekar said
that, Dr. Newman
On the 50th anniversary of the introduction of his alphabet, Tania
Branigan meets 102-year-old Zhou Youguang, the man credited with
helping millions of Chinese to read and write
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/21/china
venantius
Applies to the cholesterol-stricken among us -- certainly to wealthy
Goan(including our new Dilli cousins), and those with poor eating
habits.
excerpt from, The Cholesterol Con -- Where Were the Doctors?
Dr. Ronald M. Krauss, director of atherosclerosis research at the
Oakland Research Institute,
Dear Rajan,
I am (after much thought) surprised that you took Santosh Helekar's
statement clinically. In a sense, that you took it to heart. There is
no doubt that people, and we Goans respect you, but I also feel that
one could ask direct questions. Santosh-bab, do you feel that Dr.
Newman really
Hi! Nigel,
You said it right there. Cordial. Being cordial is a trait, which
helps one negotiate intearctions and relationships. It is learned and
practiced. And involves choice. So what you said about RCs interacting
with those from completely different faiths, but not being able to do
the same
atam tori utt, moje porje utt
tuji xekddeanchi nid sandd
atam tori utt, moje porje utt
tuje dolle ghans, tuje kann ughodd
atam tori utt, moje porje utt
tuji avoi-bhas aik, ani xik
atam tori utt, moje porje utt
ti kitli sobhit, kitli sundor, kitli modhur
atam tori utt, moje porje utt
dusmanamchim
From: Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] Goan archetypes, stereotypes and caricatures
Goan archetypes, stereotypes and caricatures
They don't get it, they never will.
By Cecil Pinto
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Cecil-bab,
A thoroughly well
Dear Jayada Patnekar,
Do please continue posting on such scientific matters. Thank oceans
for this small lahar/lahr (wave) of difference in material posted on
Goanet.
venantius j pinto
From: jayada patnekar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] National Seminar-St.Xavier's College 22nd-23rd
Is Vivek Monteiro, the same union leader who married the widow of a
union worker? If its the same person; in doing so, crossing ever
arbitrary boundary that caste, creed and ideology has set up in our
lives? Being a union leader in the India of today takes courage like
never before. She I believe
If anyone can get hold of a copy of Dr. Harth's paper please let me know.
—venantius j pinto
PORVORIM: Xavier Centre of Historical Research will hold a talk and
discussion on Imperial Cultures and Cultural Imperialism: The Case of
India by Dr Dietrich Harth at Xavier Centre of Historical
About two hours ago, my hand reached out and pulled off one of my
shelves, The Twentieth Century: Indian Poets, chosen and edited by R.
Parthasarathy. Upon closely reading the introduction, learnt that
although some poets had to an extent taken risks in verse; the first
one to really do so was
The piece appeared in the Times of India on May 29, 1966. There is a
lot to learn in this piece for politician, clergy and the common man.
I doubt very much whether anyone writes in such an open manner for the
ToI anymore. There are also a number of critical analogies that one
can make through
Bab-Anand,
This is OK in the club scene -- peeing a Rorschach. In the Goan scene
one would be regarded as laapeet (excuse spelling).
venantius
From: anand virgincar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] Of Morcha's , Mangoes.and Micturition.
Dear Goanetters,
Perhaps Digamber Kamat
Dr. Anil Desai says.
May I suggest the following to all the Goanetters.
Should we start the ball rolling to collect signatures from all the
interested goanetters?
Yes Dr. Desai, this ball should be rolled down asap. Go for it.
But remember there is no stopping Goan power brokers to buy
Enjoyed Pravin Sabnis' concise piece exhorting us towards Agape
(Charity, Unfeigned Love, unselfish love; and traditionally the love
of God towards creation, precisely to mean humankind). It brought to
mind C. S. Lewis who lists four natural loves in his book The Four
Loves; Affection, Friendship,
Dear Angel of Peace,
Please keep sending more of these. Think of time in all its aspects --
durigs, banyeo, band, zatra, alegria, politica, kala, our colors --
zamble rongacho/chem, dixtt, nodor, umo, umao, veng, dhir, khost,
adar, etc. Keep it up.
Here in solidarity, a quick translation:
Now, I
Koran in English. Pretty decent text.
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/browse.html
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/
About the Koran in Marathi. Look into the following: Shri Mataji
Nirmala Devi's father translated the Koran into Marathi. He was a
polyglot. She, well the founder of the Science
It is pathetic to see this character who carries my ancestral name
talk about a Goa that can be a model state. What is he saying,
precisely -- here; is this, that in the project to shape India towards
post disaster capitalism -- Goa has been nominated as a laboratory and
he is one of the mid-wives
No need to invent. There are some fine numerical units in existence.
There are terms that are used by special people in certain
circumstances (maybe the bigwigs do so too) -- an arab (billion), and
then there is the kharab/khrab (hundred billion). This perhaps has to
do with the nature of our
Dear Francis,
Points well taken; elegantly and endearingly made. Keep going.
Not chaste Konknni -- I would not say such a thing. Just meant plain
good old Konknni,
and wanted you t o consider it. But again, your clarity is refreshing.
venantius
From: Francis Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi! Francis,
I have been reading your haiku's on Goanet. One critical element in a
haiku is that it suggests season in some form -- the subtler it is,
the more endearing its feeling; otherwise it is not a haiku (as the
Japanese see it, beyond the syllable structure) in the true sense.
This implies
Albert, to my reading does not stray, nor stay at the edges, but is
rather precise and maintains context. From observation, and having
studied my own rejections; the moderators reject when they see
something that the Net cannot condone or support; as well as when the
volatile masquerades as angst
From: Rajan P. Parrikar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Pamphlet Circulated for Hindu Dharmajagruti
Sabha - protest against MF Husain !!
To Goanet -
Hussein wouldn't dare sketch a portrait of Allah or Prophet
Mohammed for he well knows the outcome of such indulgence,
and the
People,
On this forum one regularly comes across posts -- bewildering analysis
on a range of topics, including complex social ills. These are
written in the manner of the aesthete, to mean one having a sense of
well digested modernity -- memory, convictions and materialism. And
of course the
Konknni morchina. Kai he a.shakya assa tumhala vatt.th.
Tichi myrtyu asheatat pushkal zan
Bhas ulloitele zantte -- hi pidi sheotoli -- fuddli pidi pottoteli
tichea vengent
Lajjaspad ghost hi -- anik kai -- kuthea re he Konnkivadi -- nusta
kahi tari badbadtat
Aiz je loztat falleam tem roddtole --
In Chang's conception, there are two kinds of Bad Samaritans. There
are the genuine, powerful ladder-kickers working in the unholy
trinity of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), the World Bank, and
the World Trade Organization (WTO). Then there are the ideologues --
those who believe in Bad
Bhandare,
You are being clinically truthful when you say I would rather want
gandhism dead than Gandhi. I see your point -- events would have
swung differently if Gandhi was alive; the very concept of Gandhism
would not have existed and in so being, not a construct to benefit
from -- for certain
Dear Albert,
Would you be kind enough to tell us briefly about the tiatr's you wish
to have published. Perhaps also give some information about the prizes
your works have won, and from which bodies. Are thy one act plays, how
many, and what are the topics?
venantius j pinto
From: Frederick
Bandare is right here. His point about Godse being a misguided patriot
should not lead to such a broad comparison ranging from the world's
murderers to suicide bombers. I too am not comfortable in casting
Godse as a criminal. Upon having assassinated Gandhi -- he became
culpable for the crime he
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Cecil,
I wish your piece could appear in every newspaper in Goa, in every
language besides English, as well as in the rest of India. There are
Savio's and there are all manners of saviours, and mantris. Splendid
job in helping elaborate on another strand of sexuality.
venantius
Taking
Thanks Albert for pointing my error. I made a major mistake. My
sentence should have been: Upon looking at Reena's language, And here
I always thought Chari was a Tamilian! -- it in no way explicitly
SUGGESTS that Chari is not a
surname belonging to the Goan soil.
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The hill overlooking the Kadamba road is already taken. 200 crores or
something to that effect. Its gone to a person from Delhi. From what I
heard, Babush helped some Secratary buy a place in Moula on top of
ther hill. The price was ridiculous something like 10 lakhs for 3,000
sq metres. Nature is
Imagine if this was done to Goan Mandos. Radio Gaga with Prisoners (Yes
Freddie Mercury --
Black Eyes Peas
These guys march better than Goan police.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKMTDYtFJl8
Someone still Loves YOU)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAVVVMcTShQ
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Hi Nelson,
I have a feeling having met Kevin Saldanha, and having some knowledge
of Goan Canadian intelligentsia (long distance observation), that the
Tononto convention could well be an energizing and constructive one.
Now that I have my thinking cap on, I also believe it could also be a
great
Vinegar is also another by-product of the
coconut toddy. But I'm not sure if this product is widely used in
Indian cooking apart from in places like Goa.
Fred,
Until very recently, the arbiters, and arbitrators (not, and never
gourmands) of Goan cusine (non Goans, btw) were firm in their belief
Hi Gilbert,
Likewise, a privilege really. First time if I am not mistaken, and
that too on the last day of the year. A question of perspectives
really. No MBA theories either. That (the other write up where the MBA
bit was mentioned) was an analogy (an extrapolated one at that) on
Open Spaces,
Assassins, A South Asia Story
http://www.drishtipat.org/blog/2007/12/28/assassins/
Assassination Alley
http://rumiahmed.wordpress.com/2007/12/27/assassination/
(courtesy of shobak)
http://www.democracynow.org/2007/12/28/pakistan_in_turmoil_after_benazir_bhuttos
Its not melodrama, nor is it ridicule on my part, Philip. You text was
factual, mine was being acerbic in short form -- heckling power (it
comes in different forms as we see daily) and those who believe that
anything can be simply explained away. Its through a response, such as
yours, that we can
Sharing a letter of protest, I recently wrote to the bigwigs at work.
Feel free to share with your children. Even if they are getting their MBAs.
Again not to ridicule, but aspart of living and caring to learn other
methodologies. To be clear, since the very word violence gets people
up in arms --
Go to Democracy now. Amy Goodman, and Juan Cole, both are good
analysts/journalists.
Mannan Ahmed and Tariq Alis are the guests.
http://www.democracynow.org/
Click on the Listen/Watch Todays Show button at the top.
OR http://www.democracynow.org/2007/12/28/stream
Real Video Stream
Hear Tariq Ali's
Hello Roland,
It did not seem that Edward was being irreverent. He was perhaps just
holding your feet to the fire, yuletide and all. One would have been
enough. : ) Two are better. A conjecture on my part: based on Edward's
analytical ability*, he would have to know the two that you brought
up.
Its not melodrama, nor is it ridicule on my part, Philip. You text was
factual, mine was being acerbic in short form -- heckling power (it
comes in different forms as we see daily) and those who believe that
anything can be simply explained away. Its through a response, such as
yours, that we
Sharing a letter of protest. Feel free to share with your children.
Even if they are getting their MBAs. Again not to ridicule, but as
part of living and caring to learn other methodologies. To be clear,
since the very word violence gets people up in arms -- I am not advocating any.
-- venantius
Mervyn,
Appreciate your comment. Tripping on drawings and egg-nog (or other
quasi hallucinogen of choice). Way to go. : )
venantius
From: Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (excerpted)
venantius,
As the egg-nog works its way thru the system, your work takes on another
dimension.
Mervyn3.0
Hello Philip,
Looks like the Great Screw Goa campaign has begun. Milk anyone wanting
to Goa. Pardon my lingo, but this is how I see it.
venantius
Philip Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] Cheaper to fly abroad than to Goa
I came across this (same) report on two news channels this
When seeking the best news of 2007, maybe we should look to ourselves,
rather than the mainstream media sources writing the news to begin
with
Rory O'Connor in AlterNet
http://www.alternet.org/columnists/story/71301/
Bear with me. It will be worth looking at these videos before stepping
into the new year. venantius
Pirates and Emperors - Schoolhouse Rock (A story that begins with St.
Augustine...)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQBWGo7pef8
SchoolHouse Rock - Walkin' On Wall Street
Rajan,
Superb exposures of some Outstanding Catholics*. The aadvo
(reclining one) is an image to be treasured. Hope he did not catch
pneumonia.
venantius
* those standing outside the church.
From: Rajan P. Parrikar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Saw the midnight mass at three places - Saligao, Moira, and
Hello John Silva,
It is Matanhy, and not Mahatany.
I am feeling a bit too happy, having got home at a glorious post 2 am,
so immediately saw something amusing, and educative in your
construction of Mahatany.
Maha +tan (y) -- Great thirst (or one who is thirsting [for havoc?!])
Maha + tan --
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From: Pravin Sabnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] amchya manavar sadavala aahe
(sounded/ reached out to our minds, amchea monnar sad gatla):
Vinda Karindikar, the Jnanpith award winning Marathi poet, wrote a lovely
verse
?Denarreani det zaave,
As the people voice against againt crony capitalism, late capitalism,
advanced capitalism, and now disaster capitalism, those protesting
voices are being muted by tasers -- a horrific tool to silence
dissent. Can one imagine the Indian police being given the power to
taser.
Here are videos of
Fred,
I feel it is fine to title the portrait as Portrait of a Gaudi. Its
how the Rajan, as the photographer perceived the image he shot.
Needless to say, if we lean towards being PC (or protective) about his
artistic/cultural impression, we may err towards censoring free though
and speech.
Some pictures of a performance I was part of. Its nutty. You can see
my mug on pg 2.
http://s35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/danimalshop/Butoh%20Rochettes%20St%20Marks/?start=20
Venantius
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Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have no need to see other wild animals as we have our own menagerie in Goa.
Between my relatives and me, we have an assortment of monkeys, parrots,
cobras and one tiger. There have been several times when I would have used a
tranquilizer dart if one
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. The gaudi didn't know I was taking
her portrait, hence candid. She may have seen me
later but not at the time of the capture. The 300 mm
allows one the distance and therefore the capability
to be discreet.
Warm regards,
r
Venantius Pinto wrote:
Dear Rajan,
I relate to many of your
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WHEN: December 27, 2007 @ 4:30pm
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There was very little on Jazz, in this piece, other than a feel good
approach towards Jazz Utsav. And, one of India's better pianists seems
to have been inadvertently excluded, since the piece is about where
the jazz scene in India currently stands -- vis-a-vis the perception
of when its awakening
Good idea Valmiki.
If this book happens, I would like to be considered as an illustrator.
Of course I would expect to be given the right amount of time. Then we
are talking! I will put some stuff on this in 2008. Gavncho rakkno,
cemeter kodden pursanvan, doyeo voli nesun shoji kodden, etc.
The Archbishop's view should be looked into -- what does it encompass.
I too if I were an Archbishop, would perhaps have said the same, but
would have given reasons, as to why I have to resort to that stance;
as he probably did. No harm in that whatsoever; the Catholic Schools
are a full blown
The following excerpt, is from an opinion piece by Aseem Shrivastava.
Consider reading it at a couple of notches below your normal reading
speed.
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Amartya Sen fails to notice the subsistence economy, and succumbs to
the growth fetish
or greed ... be better
I will be somewhat 'an authority' on the subject by the time I have
gone through all the links, printed them and read them over again.
Venantius Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Dear John,
There is a lot of analysis in your post, and you are thinking out
aloud here
Dear John,
There is a lot of analysis in your post, and you are thinking out
aloud here. Since your concern is to make a correlation, as you see
it, between the tradition of sati and greed -- it would have benefited
from some examples. Furthermore, since you are pointing to sati in
ancient India,
Dear Miguel,
Jeevan and you are doing something very commendable in looking at ways
in which to support Ivana Ivana Maria Furtado's development, in
continuing to have a future in chess. My two bits here, actualy more
than that!
.
The benefactors and sponsors must have a forward thinking and
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Dear Selma,
This is a small jewel of reflectiion! Your articulation of Frida
Kahlo's oeuvre and its resonance with your core being is commendable,
refreshing, and mature. As one who prefers to view the world - the
phenomenological, in the layering and meshing of religion, sexuality
and
All,
What J. Colaco says about the orthographic confusion is true, So, I
have a request to make of Konknni writers on Goanet. I hope you guys
will be a bit forgiving of my massacring Konknni in the Romi, until I
get down with my Romi lipint boroilloi Konknni. : ) Any help is always
appreciated.
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Dear Gabe,
Appreciate this post. I heard sometime back that there was a
documentary either on Pio Gama Pinto, or included him in it -- and had
requested information from Goanetters. But none was forthcoming. If
anyone knows about the availability of this film, please put it out on
Goanet or
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Good catch Santosh. Heres an analogy via cricket -- Eknath Solkar at
silly mid-on. You too keep flushing them out, and raking in those
catches.
venantius
From: Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The text in the post appended below appears to be
lifted verbatim from one of the following
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Awesome Alexyz. You could be anyones uncle let alone a great, geat
grandfather at least considering that you were the senior-most trekker at
the most recently concluded Indra Hara Pass Trek (14,000 ft. ) from May 11
to 23 rd May 1907, that took off from Dharamshala in Himachal Pradesh. You
are
Dear Rajan,
Well put, in no uncertain terms. I do not know what repercussions there will
be if one Party X1 topples, and Party X2 comes in. It looks like it will be
the same until people wake up. It also means that all parties have similar
agendas. Your point about the activists factoring all
People,
We have lost Sanny de Quepem, who stirred our imagination by his postings. I
for one was blessed to read them and see his love for Konkani.
As is said, To live in the hearts (and minds) of those we leave behind (to
include Goanetters) is not to die. But we do not control these journeys.
Hello Bernardo,
Kitne aadmi the -- How many men, How many men (were there)
Your response in jest is funny and reflects on the root cause of dacoity as
resorted to against oppression; the subjugated common man turning into
uncommon opposition. Aam aadmi the, would translate as They were common men,
Follow the link to a Call for Submissions--Adventures in Desiland: A
Collection of Children's Stories
http://www.himalmag.com/ads/call_for_papers.htm
While at it take a peek at HIMAL, as far as I know the only magazine that
covers SAsia.
venantius
disclaimer: I occasionally illustrate for HIMAL
Has anyone heard of potatoes that grow on hills? Technically a yam, but
different. Scientific name: Dioscorea opposita (genus monocot). I do not
mean potatoes that are humanly planted. Point being, I am curious to know
whether what is known as Yama Imo (Mountain Potato) in Japan -- grow in Goa
or
Hi! Martin,
Needless to say, your use of the referential creep is a manner of seeing
oneself as relaxed and easy going. But considering that Goa continues making
news, as a loci for assorted proclivities, including sexual projections
towards children, vulnerables and those who keep to themselves
I agree with your position, except for the part about Churchill as a
statesman.
Although Winston Churchill is considered a statesman by historians, he was
really a spin master or a statesman spin master (my term) -- in our parlance
lokanchya mattear bounre/bounde bounddounc sorlolo (spinning tops
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