Re: [Goanet] Religion, conversions, caste... in Maharashtra

An interesting link. Beyond a few stray and casual times, when in India, I didn’t have the opportunity of coming closely in contact with any converted Christian Maharastrian Brahmins. That may be because as the article says, most tried to conceal their Christian background. I feel sorry for th

[Goanet] Religion, conversions, caste... in Maharashtra

Published in 2019, but still interesting: https://indianexpress.com/article/research/through-personal-memories-a-journey-into-maharashtras-forgotten-brahmin-christians/ ᐧ

[Goanet] "Religion, Power and Violence in 16th century Goa"

| | | | | | | | | | | Gods and Saints in Goa: Cultural Diversity and Local Religion Gods and Saints in Goa: Cultural Diversity and Local Religion | | | and Saints in Goa: Cultural Diversity and Local Religion": Religion, Power and Violence in 16th century Goa   by: ÂNGE

[Goanet] Religion and Politics.

This is in reference to a letter published on a couple of newspapers in respect to Religion and Politics. The writer in fact compares the article on ‘Renovação’ as a misuse of Freedom of speech , when in fact, what he states in the letter as facts, have absolutely no truth, a clear falsificat

[Goanet] religion - that's it

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[Goanet] Religion, elections... Goa

Goa Church finds state government ‘unconcerned’ about the poor http://indianexpress.com/elections/goa-assembly-elections-2017/goa-church- finds-state-government-unconcerned-about-the-poor-4499833/ Goa Church cautions against threat to democracy, dissent http://www.ucanindia.in/news/goa-church-caut

[Goanet] Religion Facts. The Quakers.

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[Goanet] Religion & the Brain.

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[Goanet] RELIGION AND POLITICS: A RECIPE FOR DISASTER

After reading the message (appended here below), I'm convinced that religion and politics is a recipe for disaster! I find religious outfits in Goa taking active part in Goa politics as if almighty have created them only for doing this! Can the writer of the message take some couching camps educ

[Goanet] RELIGION AND POLITICS: A RECIPE FOR DISASTER

On 27th May the voters of Periyapatna Assembly constituency in Karnataka voted to elect their MLA. The high light on the polling day was a scuffle after the Congress candidate K Venkatesh tried to perform Puja on the Electronic Voting Machine (EVM) at the polling booth at Kittur in Punada village.

[Goanet] Religion or reality?

As India is reeling and shocked (for a time at least) at the recent rape, various weirdos give various weirdopinions. A black clad, white mustachioed dandhawala, gave his opinion [or future law] that all women myst be housewives. These follow a religion of ancestors which is dignified today. Th

Re: [Goanet] Religion is not the same as communalism; atheism isn't secularism Was: Is Jawaharlal Nehru responsible for India's communal tensions?

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[Goanet] Religion is not the same as communalism; atheism isn't secularism Was: Is Jawaharlal Nehru responsible for India's communal tensions?

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Re: [Goanet] Religion and Tolerance

Frederick [FN] Noronha * ? wrote: > > A bigot is a person who is obstinately and irrationally, often > intolerantly, devoted to his or her own religion, political > party, organization, belief, or opinion, especially one who > regards or treats those of differing devotion with hatred and

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Tolerance

--- On Tue, 9/1/09, Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न wrote: > > A bigot is a person who is obstinately and irrationally, often > intolerantly, devoted to his or her own religion, political > party, organization, belief, or opinion, especially one who > regards or treats those of differing devo

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Tolerance

Mario Goveia : > Christian fascism flourished and ended hundreds of years ago. Islamic > fascism is on the march today and some far milder Hindu fascism within > India as well. > Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 23:45:06 +0530 From: Frederick [FN] Noronha * Always easier to point fingers

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Tolerance

As far as i know Babri was a Mosque, not a temple. Now i presume there is temple in its place and as per Caj, they want to demolish that too!! Am i right?? I also think Santosh has rightfully answered Caj, unless he was not sure if he wanted an answer to his questions or not! cause he furthe

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Tolerance

A bigot is a person who is obstinately and irrationally, often intolerantly, devoted to his or her own religion, political party, organization, belief, or opinion, especially one who regards or treats those of differing devotion with hatred and intolerance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry The

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Tolerance

--- On Tue, 9/1/09, Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न wrote: > > I believe every religious and non-religious ideology > (including secularism and Science!) has its own phases of bigotry and > intolerance. > What are the phases of bigotry and intolerance of secularism and science? Please desc

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Tolerance

--- On Tue, 9/1/09, Cajetan Alvares wrote: > > So, you do admit that Advani amd the rest of the BJP gang > are violent criminals and fanatics? > Yes. > > Why not write to them instead of on Goanet? > Write what to them? > > Writing to us here is not going to help. > Who are you? Who do you m

[Goanet] Religion and Tolerance

* Tue Sep 1 07:52:26 PDT 2009* --- On Tue, 9/1/09, Cajetan Alvares < cajuloal at googlemail.com> wrote:> * * >* Who demolished the statue of Buddha, in Afghanistan?* >* Who wants to demolish the Babri temple?* >* * Who else? Violent criminals

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Tolerance

2009/9/1 Mario Goveia : > Christian fascism flourished and ended > hundreds of years ago. Islamic fascism > is on the march today and some far milder > Hindu fascism within India as well. Always easier to point fingers at The Other! I believe every religious and non-religious ideology (including

[Goanet] Religion and Tolerance

Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 12:30:18 +0530 From: Sandeep Heble The essence of all religions is tolerance and freedom of expression and belief, says JOE D'SOUZA http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=26661&cid=14 Mario responds: It is? How much tolerance is included in the diabolical Hindu-invention

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Tolerance

Caj, The posts on Goanet are for bigots like us :-) FN PS: We always believe that only The Other is a bigot! Even they do! 2009/9/1 Cajetan Alvares : >  * Tue Sep 1 00:00:18 PDT 2009 > *Sandeep Heble > > Hi, > Sorry, but I fail to understand the Philosophical article on the above > topic. > W

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Tolerance

--- On Tue, 9/1/09, Cajetan Alvares wrote: > > Who demolished the statue of Buddha, in Afghanistan? > Who wants to demolish the Babri temple? > Who else? Violent criminals and fanatics. Cheers, Santosh

[Goanet] Religion and Tolerance

* Tue Sep 1 00:00:18 PDT 2009 *Sandeep Heble Hi, Sorry, but I fail to understand the Philosophical article on the above topic. Who demolished the statue of Buddha, in Afghanistan? Who wants to demolish the Babri temple? Writing articles on Goanet is not going to educate the above (Quote) fool

[Goanet] Religion and Tolerance

Joe D' Souza is spot on in his column that features in today's Herald. Read on: The essence of all religions is tolerance and freedom of expression and belief, says JOE D’SOUZA The late US President John F Kennedy once said, “Any fool can break the door, but it takes a good carpenter to carve a

[Goanet] Religion, Science & Politics!!!!!!!

I believe Goanet and Goanet members are Secular(!).  Based on this assumption I would like to conclude above subject saying “Religion at no cost can be intermixed with Politics”. Secondly “Religion can never and ever get intermixed with Science” If at all any personality is trying to say that

Re: [Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE

Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:22:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Santosh Helekar Fr. Ivo appears to be not the least bit familiar with peer-reviewed medical scientific literature, and as a professional priest and theologian, clearly and understandably, does not have the background and training required to ev

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science, Gilbert's response.

Nascy Caldeira wrote: > >I rest my case! > Nascy has tried to rest his case many times on Goanet. But he has not been successful. His case is a very serious one. It cannot be easily rested. Perhaps, an Indian vegetarian diet might help. Gilbert's chicken soup will only make it a more restless

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

From: "Nascy Caldeira" Thank You very much, Gilbert! This is brilliant! I hope this will finally put a stop to all this idle and adversarial talk.' Much ado about nothing', I must say. I earnestly hope that the great? Santosh is the wiser and learns, how not to indulge in dirty ugly debatin

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science, Gilbert's response.

Thank You very much, Gilbert! This is brilliant!  I hope this will finally put a stop to all this idle and adversarial talk.' Much ado about nothing', I must say. I earnestly hope that the great? Santosh is the wiser and learns, how not to indulge in dirty ugly debating on goanet, and then g

Re: [Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE

From: "Mario Goveia" From: "Fr. Ivo C. de Souza" This is the "proof positive" that you do not understand what "revealed Religion" is, of what is historical Revelation, of what is the witness of the Gospels. In short, you do not see the difference...between empirical sciences and other sciences

[Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE

Hi Fr. Ivo and Mistry, Religion is one of the frequent threads on Goanet.  Some of the most active discussants have recently shared with us their knowledge-base about the subject. Since you are active on this subject, you may be forced to respond to any serious or flip remark about religion.. 

Re: [Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE

From: "J. Colaco < jc>" Dear Fr. Ivo, I had asked Santoshbab for evidence that 'Prayer does not work'. He referred me to two papers which I have not yet reviewed. When I review them, I will put them through the following series of evaluatory questions... Now ... you say you have evidence (pos

Re: [Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE

From: "Santosh Helekar" --- On Sun, 4/26/09, J. Colaco < jc> wrote: He gave me additional reason to believe in my beliefs until he places #3 wherein he then goes on to say that we (should) we not take our beliefs too seriously. Hummh! Taking beliefs too seriously, in my opinion, is succum

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

From: "Mario Goveia" Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:05:58 +0530 From: "Fr. Ivo C. de Souza" I cannot study Theology without studying Science at all. Mario observes: Padre Ivo, With all due respect, if you are continuing to insist that the existence of God can be proven by science, after once

Re: [Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE

From: "Mario Goveia" My personal belief is based on faith and some circumstantial evidence. All religions are based almost entirely on faith. Jane Gillian wrote: What is the purpose of any debate on the existence of God? Mario responds: This question should be addressed to Padre Ivo. Once

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

From: "Gilbert Lawrence" Can Santosh, support his statement (below) about my claim that "their religion is scientific."? Please just post my quote and the context the statement was made. Please do not give me your interpretation of my writings about my religion. I am really getting tired of r

[Goanet] Religion and Science

Your reply to my request deserves the courtesy of a  response.  Your reply displays your skill to read and understand what is written. As a scientist, I would have expected better from you. To begin, both Religion and Science are very broad subjects.  Yet, any intelligent individual will see th

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

From: "Santosh Helekar" --- On Sun, 4/26/09, Gilbert Lawrence wrote: Can Santosh, support his statement (below) about my claim that "their >religion is scientific."? Please just post my quote and the context the >statement was made. Here is the quote and a link to the context: "So IM

Re: [Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE

--- On Tue, 4/28/09, J. Colaco < jc> wrote: > >I had asked Santoshbab for evidence that 'Prayer does not work'. He >referred >me to two papers which I have not yet reviewed. > The papers to which I referred were reviews and meta-analyses of all intercessory prayer studies done until now. I w

Re: [Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE

Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:53:57 +0530 From: "Fr. Ivo C. de Souza" Virginal conception of Jesus has a historical basis (cf.Mt 1:18-23). The "Holy Trinity" is based on the revelation of Jesus: God is his Father, Jesus is the Son, and after his death and Resurrection, Jesus sent the Spirit. Resu

Re: [Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE

Dear Fr. Ivo, I had asked Santoshbab for evidence that 'Prayer does not work'. He referred me to two papers which I have not yet reviewed. When I review them, I will put them through the following series of evaluatory questions a: How was the study sample collected? b: Was it random or consecut

Re: [Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE

From: "J. Colaco < jc>" Santosh Helekar wrote: [1] I believe in the goodness of all normal human beings, irrespective of creed. [2] I believe that that remark was just a thoughtless gaffe, the kind of which none of us are immune from. [3] But I think it is important that we not take our bel

Re: [Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE

From: "Mistri Ganguli" <<***Religion is a part and parcel of human history. We believe in God. Jesus has given us also the knowledge of God, his Father... Regards. Fr.Ivo .

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

From: "Mario Goveia" << From: "Fr. Ivo C. de Souza" I cannot study Theology without studying Science at all. Padre Ivo, With all due respect, if you are continuing to insist that the existence of God can be proven by science, after once agreeing that science cannot prove or disprove the

Re: [Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE

From: "Santosh Helekar" <

Re: [Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE

From: "Mario Goveia" As a practicing Catholic and a believer in objective science, it continues to boggle the mind when otherwise serious individuals confuse science and faith, which is the basis of religion. From: "Fr. Ivo C. de Souza" But what is faith for you? "Beliefs" without any histori

[Goanet] RELIGION, SCIENCE AND MARIO??????

Jane Gillian Rodrigues: I'm sure, we are all looking forward to some more replies from you on Religion and Science, which will make all of us Goanetters wonder "WHY DOES GOD KEEP MARIO ALIVE?". Mario responds: To those who took umbrage at JGR's comments, which I think she wrote rhetorically,

[Goanet] RELIGION, SCIENCE AND MARIO??????

Date: 25 Apr 2009 09:50:57 - From: "jane gillian rodrigues" God Bless you, and thank you, for taking the trouble to read and reply to my e-mail. You will be very happy to know - I AM NOT GOD. Mario observes: Oh, darn! I was hoping we could use you as proof to convince some of our athei

[Goanet] Religion and Science

From: Gilbert Lawrence Subject: [Goanet] Religion and Science I am really getting tired of reading posts where alleged intelligent authors "put words" in other peoples' writing - and the demagogue it ad infinity.?? Mario responds: As the only voice on Goanet of reason, truth a

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

Gilbert should not get tired if gets his facts wrong. Cornel does not post on Goanet because he had a disagreement with Goanet moderators over some of his posts. Not because he did not have evidence of the caste issue. George --- On Sun, 4/26/09, Gilbert Lawrence wrote: > I am really getting

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

--- On Sun, 4/26/09, Gilbert Lawrence wrote: > > Can Santosh, support his statement (below) about my claim that "their > >religion is scientific."? Please just post my quote and the context the > >statement was made. > Here is the quote and a link to the context: "So IMO both Religion and Sci

[Goanet] Religion and Science

Can Santosh, support his statement (below) about my claim that "their religion is scientific."? Please just post my quote and the context the statement was made. Please do not give me your interpretation of my writings about my religion. I am really getting tired of reading posts where alleged in

Re: [Goanet] RELIGION, SCIENCE AND MARIO??????

--- On Sun, 4/26/09, J. Colaco < jc> wrote: > > He gave me additional reason to believe in my beliefs until > he places #3 wherein he then goes on to say that we (should) we not > take our beliefs too seriously. Hummh! > Taking beliefs too seriously, in my opinion, is succumbing to excessive

Re: [Goanet] RELIGION, SCIENCE AND MARIO??????

Santosh Helekar wrote: [1] I believe in the goodness of all normal human beings, irrespective of creed. [2] I believe that that remark was just a thoughtless gaffe, the kind of which none of us are immune from. [3] But I think it is important that we not take our beliefs too seriously - that we

Re: [Goanet] RELIGION, SCIENCE AND MARIO??????

Roland, I believe in the goodness of all normal human beings, irrespective of creed. I believe that that remark was just a thoughtless gaffe, the kind of which none of us are immune from. But I think it is important that we not take our beliefs too seriously - that we not be excessively self-ri

Re: [Goanet] RELIGION, SCIENCE AND MARIO (correction)

Until JGR withdraws her disastrous comment and apologises, I will maintain that she meant Mario ill. There is, IMHO, NO explanation for such a comment. I agree with Santosh. jc [1] jane gillian rodrigues wrote: which will make all of us Goanetters wonder "WHY DOES GOD KEEP MARIO ALIVE?". [2]

Re: [Goanet] RELIGION, SCIENCE AND MARIO??????

Santosh, like you, I would abhor with great distate anyone wishing anyone ill especially our Mario - the voice of truth, reason and sanity :-) However, after having carefully read JJRs remark in context, I do not think she yearns for Mario's demise. Not that JJRs wish would have any bearing on his

Re: [Goanet] RELIGION, SCIENCE AND MARIO??????

--- On Sat, 4/25/09, jane gillian rodrigues wrote: > > I'm sure, we are all looking forward to some more replies > from you on Religion and Science, which will make all of us > Goanetters wonder "WHY DOES GOD KEEP MARIO ALIVE?". > No matter what Mario does on Goanet it is unlikely that any Go

[Goanet] RELIGION, SCIENCE AND MARIO??????

of us Goanetters wonder "WHY DOES GOD KEEP MARIO ALIVE?". MARIO - I THINK GOD LOVES YOU VERY MUCH. God Bless you, Jane = From: Mario Goveia Subject: Re: [Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE From: "jane gillian rodrigues" PRAYER REQUEST FOR JOSE

[Goanet] RELIGION & SCIENCE

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Re: [Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE

Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:43:46 -0400 From: "jane gillian rodrigues" PRAYER REQUEST FOR JOSE ROD Dear Friends, We are saddened by the fatal news that Joseph Rodrigues popularly known as Jose Rod, a multi-talented individual hailed as the Super Star of the Konkani Stage, has been diagnosed of

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:05:58 +0530 From: "Fr. Ivo C. de Souza" I cannot study Theology without studying Science at all. Mario observes: Padre Ivo, With all due respect, if you are continuing to insist that the existence of God can be proven by science, after once agreeing that science cann

[Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE

Dear All, I am sure that Mario Goveia does not know what he is talking about. I say to all Goanet readers who do believe in God or super power that. He (Mario) has nothing better to do all day. God means different things to different people - so, just shut up Mario! Science vs Humans is based on

Re: [Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE

I congratulate Mario on a lucid exposition of his faith-based beliefs, as well as a clear understanding of an absolute separation between science and religion, and of the scope and limits of both. I would recommend this type of clarity of thought to everybody. Cheers, Santosh --- On Wed, 4/2

Re: [Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE

Mario observes: > > As a practicing Catholic and a believer in objective science, it > continues to boggle the mind when otherwise serious individuals confuse > science and faith, which is the basis of religion. Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:59:43 +0530 From: "Fr. Ivo C. de Souza" But what is fait

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

--- On Tue, 4/21/09, Fr. Ivo C. de Souza wrote: > > ***Dr.Santosh is asking me to read books on Science when discussing >about > the relationship between Science and Theology. > I am asking Fr. Ivo to do nothing of this sort. He is free to read whatever he wants. I am merely pointing out that

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science (part 2)

From: "Santosh Helekar" On Mon, 4/20/09, Gilbert Lawrence wrote: I appreciate Santosh telling us he has not read any book on theology. Now we will have to check about other topics he writes on. Gilbert, I said I did not STUDY (not just read) any book on theology, which is what you asked me

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

From: "Santosh Helekar" Hi Gilbert, > Finally, here is my direct answer to the extraneous question you have > asked. I hope you will have the courtesy to answer the questions i have > asked in my previous posts. "Please tell us the names of five theological books you have studied (not just rea

Re: [Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE

From: "Mario Goveia" --- On Sun, 4/19/09, MD wrote: Science is no match for religioud (sic) belief. Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:23:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Santosh Helekar But good faith is not good science. That is all I am saying. I am forced to say it because of the false claims made by Fr.

Re: [Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE

(KUWAIT) kgts...@hotmail.com >From: Mario Goveia >Subject: [Goanet] Religion and Science >From: "jane gillian rodrigues" > >Yes, when all else fails, we pray to God for a miracle cure, and God always >hears >our prayers and cures us. > >Mario asks: > &

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 22:06:59 -0400 From: "RGrootendorst" Why is there such a shortage of empathy towards our fellow man? I feel shame for the torture, kidnap and "rendition" of suspect detainees, whereas others feel such inhuman means justify the end. Is Obama comfortable sitting on the fe

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science (part 2)

--- On Mon, 4/20/09, Gilbert Lawrence wrote: > > I appreciate Santosh telling us he has not read any book > on theology. Now we will have to check about other topics he > writes on. > Gilbert, I said I did not STUDY (not just read) any book on theology, which is what you asked me to do. Please

Re: [Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE

From: "Santosh Helekar" --- On Sun, 4/19/09, MD wrote: Science is no match for religioud belief. Dear Maurice, You are right only about the fact that science is no match for religious belief, and that Fr. Ivo writes in good faith. I suspect, so do you and Gilbert. But good faith is n

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

I point out some more puzzling and pseudoscientific statements in Fr. Ivo's latest post. --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Fr. Ivo C. de Souza wrote: > > I am quite acquainted with conventional medicine and homeopathy, >therefore I > am speaking from the viewpoint of both. As a matter of fact, >I did the

[Goanet] Religion and Science (part 2)

Is this what passes off as intelligent conversation among scientists?  Or is this a bitter brew of mis-guided outrage? Well ... I guess some scientist have a problem dealing with the facts. I would understand getting some flak from clinicians, for not being detailed in my explanations.  However

[Goanet] Religion and science

Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 08:23:28 + From: Albert Desouza God has given us plants. Some of them have medicinal values. We have a habbit of running to an allopath without realising how harmful these medicines are. Memo to Santosh and Gilbert: See how much time you wasted with all that educati

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

From: "Santosh Helekar" --- On Fri, 4/17/09, Fr. Ivo C. de Souza wrote: As a physician, I shall do whatever I can in my system (allopathic or >homoepathic) and specialization. The patient will come to me if s/he >knows my value in my system and specialization. > The above statement is puzz

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

Hi Gilbert, I noticed that you avoided answering my questions, asking me an unrelated question, instead, to obfuscate matters. Moreover, you are asking me to buy your own personal revisionist definition of scientific inquiry, which has no connection with the real scientific world, and implying

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

From: "Santosh Helekar" -- On Fri, 4/17/09, Gilbert Lawrence wrote: Since you-both have asked for my clarification, I am stepping into this cross-current. Dear Gilbert, I had asked you to tell me why you think that even the religion that Fr. Ivo was preaching in these kinds of threads was

Re: [Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE

--- On Sun, 4/19/09, MD wrote: > > Science is no match for religioud (sic) belief. > Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:23:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Santosh Helekar But good faith is not good science. That is all I am saying. I am forced to say it because of the false claims made by Fr. Ivo, and now Gilbe

[Goanet] Religion and science

Albert writes:- God has given us plants .Some of them have medicinal values. We have a habbit of running to an allopath without realising how harmful these medicines are. For cold:- the allopath will give you antibiotics. but I would suggest ginger smashed on a stone in glass of water to which

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

Deo Gratias for JGR and her emotionally intelligent response on Religion & Science. Over the past couple of decades we know so much more than before, but people become evermore polarised, overly-aggressive and paranoid, or am I talking about the warring governments/nations of the world? Is there en

Re: [Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE

--- On Sun, 4/19/09, MD wrote: > > Science is no match for religioud belief. > Dear Maurice, You are right only about the fact that science is no match for religious belief, and that Fr. Ivo writes in good faith. I suspect, so do you and Gilbert. But good faith is not good science. That i

[Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE

Dear Santosh, Science is no match for religioud belief. We go to temples, churches and pray to a particular deity or saint, with a mind set. Human mind is very complex and if one truly believes the favour will be granted or certain ailment will be healed, it is possible it might. As an example,

[Goanet] Religion and Science

Date: 19 Apr 2009 08:16:18 - From: "jane gillian rodrigues" Yes, when all else fails, we pray to God for a miracle cure, and God always hears our prayers and cures us. Mario asks: HE does? Are you suggesting that those who die every day do not pray for a miracle cure? Jane Gillian wrot

[Goanet] Religion and Science

Dear Santosh, Thank you for your polite response and not knit-picking my post. Let me answer your questions: SH:  Are you claiming that Christian priests and ministers, Muslim mullahs and imams, and Hindu bhots and swamis study science and scientific method as part of their theological curricu

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science (part 2)

I cannot believe what Gilbert has written in the post appended below. He has not only misled Goanetters on the subject of placebos, and how and why they are used in drawing inferences about the effectiveness of treatments, but he has made questionable statements on the treatment of pneumonia -

[Goanet] Religion and Science

having major problems, while India, with different states, different religions, different languages etc. are still "One India"? = >From: "J. Colaco < jc>" >Subject: Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science >2009/4/16 F

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

--- On Fri, 4/17/09, Gilbert Lawrence wrote: > >Since you-both have asked for my clarification, I am stepping into this > cross-current. > Dear Gilbert, I had asked you to tell me why you think that even the religion that Fr. Ivo was preaching in these kinds of threads was pseudo-religion - a

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science (part 2)

Religion and Science:  Homeopathy / Allopathy / Science To some the following may be simplistic; while to others it may be 'too medical'. Either way my apologies.  Sure some will knit-pick every word and sentence, thus overlooking the gist of the message.  We Goans are sometimes good at knit-pi

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

--- On Fri, 4/17/09, Fr. Ivo C. de Souza wrote: > >As a physician, I shall do whatever I can in my system (allopathic or >>homoepathic) and specialization. The patient will come to me if s/he >knows >my value in my system and specialization. > The above statement is puzzling, and I am afraid,

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

Dear Santosh and Fr. Ivo,   For starters, I have to honestly let you both know that, I have not been following your discourses.  The few posts of yours that I browsed, I skipped after reading the first few lines.  While you-both are intelligent, I think your conversations pass each-other like tw

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

From: "J. Colaco < jc>" 2009/4/16 Fr. Ivo C. de Souza After all, one should do what is possible, within rational limits, and leave the rest in the hands of the Almighty God. Dear Fr Ivo, I believe we are talking from two different angles. You (possibly) from the angle of the patient, I from

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:04:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Gilbert Lawrence Fr. Ivo, Thanks for endorsing my statement. What is it they say about "great minds think alike"? Mario observes: Gilbert is absolutely correct. He and Fr. Ivo think exactly alike, as we can see from their posts - and both a

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

From: "Santosh Helekar" To find out why the wild claims regarding homeopathy made by Fr. Ivo in the posts appended below are patently bogus, please read this article provided by a prominent British organization of scientists, promoting sense and science among lay people: http://www.senseabo

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

2009/4/16 Fr. Ivo C. de Souza [1] I would say that those who benefit, let them take the maximum from any medical system. Even in the hospitals people take their own choices and sometimes may be healed... After all, one should do what is possible, within rational limits, and leave the rest in the

Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science

From: "Santosh Helekar" It is clear that homeopathy and other alternative medical practices are faith-based belief systems. There are uncanny similarities and analogies between these medical belief systems, and new and old religious belief systems. They are: 1. Both have a large faith-based

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