The new GT.M is upward compatible - an option is added to allow existing
null subscripts and prohibit new ones. Nothing has been taken away, and
the previous options remain, to permit or prohibit (the default
behavior) null subscripts.
Nancy Anthracite wrote:
Are you using the new GTM? As I
Thurman Pedigo wrote:
> This story IS legend, reported over and over. My recollections it made
> headlines when it occurred - not that long ago.
Not an urban legend but LEGENDARY (and one of the forces behind the
FDA's entry into the software as medical device arena)
" Some of the most widely cit
hrough OCR to
essentially be line art.
Jim Gray
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From: "Nancy Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters
option' !!!
I thin
A patch with a number ending in Tnn (where 'nn' is some number) is a
test patch.
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will be to arrive where we started
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On Jul 10, 2005, at 10:50 PM, Anna Joseph wrote:
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> OK, here is what is in the VA Demo:
>
> OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: OPTION
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> Imaging site paramaters
> > option' !!!
> >
> >
I think we need to go ahead and do this to the latest CPRS, document exactly
how it is done, come up with a seamless solution for making these html
wrappers that an office staff can do and probably fix up the whole package to
work with a scanner with open source drivers and a sheet feeder plus f
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>
>
My method is to take the URL, wrap it in the bare
minimum to identify itself as a web page, and store it
as a standard document.
When CPRS retrieves the note, it scans the note and if
it finds an HTML header, then instead of displaying it
in a Memo field (the Delphi term), instead, it passes
it to
This is exactly what I have done.
Kevin
--- Gregory Woodhouse
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> If you just use Apache as a web server, then
> basically all you need
> is a Delphi component capable of retrieving a
> document via HTTP, and
> I can't believe that such a thing doesn't already
> exi
I think the issue here is patient safety for medical
DEVICES.
I was griping about this issue to a friend of mine who
works in IT in a hospital. He is familiar with the
FDA regulations. He told me a story that gave me some
perspective. Perhaps its an urban legand, but I don't
think so.
At one
Then again, RTF is just text, too. I keep thinking I should learn
RTF, but haven't been terribly enthusiastic about it. :-|
BTW, I have used WP fields to store XML, and at least one major
Delphi application I've seen and used makes extensive use of XSLT.
So, if you were really ambitious you
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters
> option' !!!
>
> My assumption (perhaps wrong) was that depending on Imaging to do
> this was causing problems for you. FWIW, if I were to try and desig
My assumption (perhaps wrong) was that depending on Imaging to do
this was causing problems for you. FWIW, if I were to try and design
an independent solution, I'd do something like this:
1. Create a new SCANNED DOCUMENT file.
2. I assume you want to associate documents with patients, and
p
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> option' !!!
>
> Actually, word processing (WP) is just Fileman jar
On Sat, 2005-07-09 at 22:53, Gregory Woodhouse wrote:
> Actually, word processing (WP) is just Fileman jargon for plain old
> text (of arbitrary length). There is a choice between word wrap and
> no word wrap, and some rudimentary formatting capabilities, but very
> little.
>
OK :)
Ruben
Actually, word processing (WP) is just Fileman jargon for plain old
text (of arbitrary length). There is a choice between word wrap and
no word wrap, and some rudimentary formatting capabilities, but very
little.
I think Nancy is right that if you do use OCR to produce a text file,
you'd
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> > option' !!!
> >
> > Don
Of Thurman Pedigo
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> > paramaters option' !!!
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> > Don't think you are missing anything
age-
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> optio
et
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters
> option' !!!
>
> I guess I'm missing something. Adding a new Delphi component to
> display PDF or PaperPort documents doesn't strike me as
> extraordinarily complex, but I ga
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> >> opti
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats-
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option' !!!
BTW Thurman, I too us
If you just use Apache as a web server, then basically all you need
is a Delphi component capable of retrieving a document via HTTP, and
I can't believe that such a thing doesn't already exist (especially
since I've seen Delphi applications do this). If all you are about is
the Windows plat
Exactly!
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite
> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 5:30 PM
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I would say that with what is going on right now, we need a workaround, soon.
So if the purist in you can be suppressed for a bit, perhaps you would like
to suggest one? ;-)
BTW Thurman, I too use Paperport, but I would love a nice seamless link to
VistA and CPRS. I have thought of barcoding
Write a module.
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Gregory Woodhouse
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man, but he is brave five minutes longer."
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson
On Jul 9, 2005, at 3:37 PM, Thurman Pedigo wrote:
t would be nice to have a convenient interface with FM/CPRS. Does
Apache do
that
Okay, I can certainly appreciate that. The web of interdependencies
in Vista modules (especially the clinical ones) does make it
difficult to simply ignore one you have no plans to use. But, as you
know, I think this is a problem crying out for a real solution, not
just another workaround (
ardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters
> option' !!!
>
> But if you just want to store scanned images, why don't you use
> something like Apache? What's the point of the added overhead (and
&g
ect: Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters
> option' !!!
>
> ...the real issue IMHO is that the scanning functionality has been held
> hostage by the FDA issue...if the sledge hammer works then why not use
> it or make it into something more
I think the point of using some of the imaging software is that when patches
are applied to VistA, it would seem less likely to step on any scanning
solution installed if the imaging routines used to retrieve documents from a
server and link them to a patient were used to retrieve these scanned
But if you just want to store scanned images, why don't you use
something like Apache? What's the point of the added overhead (and
expense) of using a system designed for medical imaging?
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"Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add,
...the real issue IMHO is that the scanning functionality has been held
hostage by the FDA issue...if the sledge hammer works then why not use
it or make it into something more appropriatebut no one will do it
with the perceived threat of the FDA Police descending upon them.
Perhaps all thi
I can't argue with that. My point was that on a system where the
software really is being used for medical imaging, you don't want
people tinkering with the code.
Of course, that brings up another question: Why would anyone want to
use this code to handle things like scanned documents? That
mbers@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters
option' !!!
It's not quite so absurd, though, when you consider that MUMPS is
traditionally interpreted, and if you change the code on the system
where it is intended to run,
It's not quite so absurd, though, when you consider that MUMPS is
traditionally interpreted, and if you change the code on the system
where it is intended to run, then you are effectively modifying the
executable. It's not just a matter of making a copy of the source
code and saying "Don't
pending
on how you use it.
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Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 12:02 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
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opti
Mine has all of that usual disclaimer as well.
On Friday 08 July 2005 03:02 pm, Jim Self wrote:
> I have that routine with the same two first lines in a test installation of
> the VA Demo OpenVista with no additional patches installed and the routine
> is included in an older OpenVistA but the sec
OK, here is what is in the VA Demo:
OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: OPTION// INSTALL(5894 entries)
Select INSTALL NAME: MAG
1 MAG 2.5T11 Install Completed 10/16/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:41:41
=> VistA Imaging v2.5t11L ;Created on Oct 16, [EMAIL PROTECTED]:51:14
2 MAG*3.0*1 Ins
I have that routine with the same two first lines in a test installation of the
VA Demo
OpenVista with no additional patches installed and the routine is included in
an older
OpenVistA but the second line indicates an older version;
;;2.5;IMAGING;**1**;June 29, 2001
Anna's error in typing the
What that tells you is that no patches have been applied to that
particular routine. a patch may, for example, introduce a new
parameter or option without even modifying so much as a routine. A
better way to check for patch level is to look at the INSTALL file
and look for MAG*3. You also m
^MAGUSIT
> > ^-
> >
> > Anna
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> > From: "Nancy Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> To:
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> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters
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> > Can you run ED^MAGUSIT ?
> >
> > On Thursday 07 July 2005 11:26 pm, Anna Joseph wrote:
> > > I
9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters
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> Can you run ED^MAGUSIT ?
>
> On Thursday 07 July 2005 11:26 pm, Anna Joseph wrote:
> > I've have re-indexed the OPTIONS file with no problem this time. But, I
> > still c
on finding this elusive option???
>
> Anna
>
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> optio
t; At M source location XEC^DIK1
>
>
> Oops what's that all about!
>
> Anna
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> That's what I get to see in the options file. Even the number of options I
> have are less (as compared to Na
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> If that's the case, you could try a SEARCH of file 19 to see if the
> missing option is really missing. Do you
If that's the case, you could try a SEARCH of file 19 to see if the
missing option is really missing. Do you know the actual name (.01
field) of the option? Also, you should check to see if the parameter
is defined.
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"The most incomprehensible thing a
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Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters
option' !!!
Is the parameter defined in your kernel parameters file? You may very
well be missing a patch, and since it's Imaging, and Imaging isn't
part of the standar
Is the parameter defined in your kernel parameters file? You may very
well be missing a patch, and since it's Imaging, and Imaging isn't
part of the standard FOIA release (and it depends on a commercial
product to work), the parameter and its supporting options may very
well not be included
f Of Gregory Woodhouse
> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 12:31 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters
> option' !!!
>
> It might not be there, but it's also possible that there is
Come to think of it, it might not be just that one cross-reference,
given that the case may also be an issue (mixed case and all caps are
indexed separately). In any case, why don't you re-index the file and
try again. (File 19 is not like file 2, it's not one of the files
that can't safely
It might not be there, but it's also possible that there is a problem
with the "B" cross-reference.
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Gregory Woodhouse
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"Education is a progressive discovery
of our own ignorance."
--Will Durant
On Jul 7, 2005, at 9:25 AM, Thurman Pedigo wrote:
Interesting:
Select OPTIO
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> option' !!!
>
> I looked in the option file in
I looked in the option file in the VA Demo and both of those options are
listed.
GTM>D Q^DI
VA FileMan 22.0
Select OPTION: 5 INQUIRE TO FILE ENTRIES
OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: RPC BROKER SITE PARAMETERS// OPTION
1 OPTION (10126 entries)
2 OPTION SCHEDU
This is to inquire as to wheather the Open VistA Semiviva 4.0, which we are
presently using, has the 'Define Imaging site paramaters option'.
As per the documentation i have gone thru (IMAGING SYSTEM INSTALLATION
GUIDE ), the MAG SYS MENU is supposed to have 'Define Imaging site
paramaters
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