Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread jeff.lane
My next door neighbor just moved up there. Small world - Original Message - From: Julian Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 10:37 PM Subject: Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices Hey, no shit... I just live a little north

RE: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread Mark Dodge
Crap, I'm moving to Seattle Mark Dodge MD Computers 602-421-0329 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jeff.lane Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 4:57 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices Spokane - Original

Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread jeff.lane
It's very beautiful out here and there is a lot to do on the West Side. 5 Million people living there. It is just the State Government has always ripped everyone off ever since I can remember, and that is a long time. You will enjoy your stay, though. Gas is 2.55-2.65 average so that is pretty

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread Stan Zaske
You know, not all Westerners are stoopid! I love high gas prices and have waited decades to see them! The only way we can get off of the oil tit is to make alternative energy sources economical. Expensive gas in the short term is a definite hardship but cheap gas in the long term is a serious

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread Stan Zaske
We've been talking about fuel cells as in hydrogen powered fuel cells that only produce water as a waste by product which on paper looks great. Only in reality it doesn't work because there isn't a practical method of producing hydrogen in usable form and storing it in sufficient quantities to

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread Stan Zaske
Absolutely correct! Ethanol is another farm subsidy designed to give farmers another market for their huge overproduction of food. This idea only works with cheap oil and that clearly isn't going to be the case from now on! Expensive oil is here to stay and I say it's about time we got our

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread Stan Zaske
Great idea! Unfortunately, all the oil in Alaska is only a few percent of the over 50% that we import. A better idea is to ban all incandescent lights for compact fluorescents which only use 1/4 the energy! There are many other simple methods that we could use to ease the energy crunch in the

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread Stan Zaske
Scientific rubbish and shame on them for even trying to sell us that snake oil. There is no such thing as cold fusion at least in this period of history. jeff.lane wrote: Like cold fusion? There were a couple of scientists, in Utah, several years ago that claimed they had made cold fusion

Re: [H] Sygate scoops up Sygate... (Symantec scoops up Sygate)

2005-08-18 Thread Stan Zaske
Symantec sucks big time! Guess it's time to retire Sygate personal firewall. sigh James Maki wrote: (I corrected the subject line) I guess this will be the end of a free version of Sygate Personal Firewall and the beginning of the product being screwed up.. Has Symantec ever acquired any

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread Stan Zaske
DOE is run by polititions and you wonder why they're scientific morons? Bill Cohane wrote: At 17:00 08/17/05, jeff.lane wrote: Like cold fusion? There were a couple of scientists, in Utah, several years ago that claimed they had made cold fusion work. That is clean, safe, perpetual, fusion

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread Stan Zaske
$2.69.9 here in Peoria, IL. today. nobozoz wrote: As of this afternoon, LA, CA area average unleaded regular gas price is $2.77 per gal. _jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rick Quilhot Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 7:04 PM To: 'The

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 10:23 PM 17/08/2005, Al wrote: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Too bad the US wouldn't kick the shit out of Saudi Arabia then, and get the price here down to a better level. You say that so nonchalantly, like the lives involved are worthless. I don't understand, I forgot

Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread Greg Sevart
...but given that we produce something like ~40% of our oil DOMESTICALLY, and the majority of the remainder comes from Canada, Mexico, and Venezuela, we wouldn't need to replace 100% of our oil consumption with oil from the ANWR. Even if we only replaced 50% of are imported oil, that would

Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: Wayne Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 10:16 PM Subject: Re: Re: [H] Gas prices There was a James Bond movie where they put some drug into gasoline then distilled the gasoline

Re: [H] Sygate scoops up Sygate... (Symantec scoops up Sygate)

2005-08-18 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: Stan Zaske [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 4:24 AM Subject: Re: [H] Sygate scoops up Sygate... (Symantec scoops up Sygate) Symantec sucks big time! Guess it's time to

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: Stan Zaske [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 4:29 AM Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices DOE is run by polititions and you wonder why they're scientific morons? Nice to know none or any of their

RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread 007
GM took out the rail road tracks from the streets of Los Angeles in the 50's. XXX corporation(s) took out the validity of the Utah experiment in the 90's. 007. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of jeff.lane Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 5:00

RE: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread Chris Reeves
Realize also, a big chunk of the use of oil in the US doesn't go for car gas.. more like machinery upkeep, that thing called plastic, airlines, etc. I do believe heavily in nuclear power. For others, hell, break out biodiesel ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [H] Sygate scoops up Sygate... (Symantec scoops up Sygate)

2005-08-18 Thread Chris Reeves
Exactly. Ghost stayed the same product for -years- with seemingly no research until they bought out Powerquest and ghost became Drive Image 7. (basically the exact same product). This seems to be their MO. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: Greg Sevart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 8:04 AM Subject: Re: Re: [H] Gas prices lately, but even they aren't as bad the middle east. Hoping to get completely away from oil imports in

Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread Hayes Elkins
Canadian entrepenuers have found a much more efficient way to extract pure crude from oil sands (basically black sand/oil mixture that has proved futile and too costly to extract in the past).

Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread Eli Allen
One big thing that could have helped decrease our need for oil was not in the energy bill, increased fuel efficienct standards (CAFE). But it did include an extension of a provison that extends how long automakers receive fuel economy credits so a way to keep the weak CAFE standards even

Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread j m g
Foreign Affairs magazine from a couple of years ago theorized that if the fed's had kept up the level of energy conservation RD funding as was spent from the early 70s to the early 80s we wouldn't have to worry about foreign at all by the late 90s, unfortunately by late 80s most of the big federal

Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread Greg Sevart
Going by: http://www.doi.gov/news/030312.htm ANWR can only produce 1,400,000 barrels a day, otherwise known as way less then our middle east imports. I very strongly suspect that the 1.4mbpd figure is an economically viable figure. Given that oil prices have more than doubled since the

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: Stan Zaske [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 3:58 AM Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices How would you like to stop at the hydrogen station everyday to fill up? Basically, hydrogen as a fuel for

RE: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread Tony Antoniou
There is a small degree of increased performance in modern standard manufacturer's vehicles when it comes to using premium fuel. Not to the extent that I would say it is significant but enough to notice a little more pep. Reason being, the higher octane means more resistance to detonation as you

RE: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread Tony Antoniou
Bush made the BS oil inflation happen with his War on Terror. Sorry to all you militant Bush supporters out there but Bush and his family of oil-riggers are laughing all the way to the bank, along with the people above them pulling the strings. Adios, Tony --- TAMA -

Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread Greg Sevart
Hoping to get away from high prices for fuel is unrealistic, also, no matter where the energy comes from. Prices are supply and demand driven. Any decrease in price caused by an increase in supply is offset by an increase in demand. In the case of oil, prices have recently been driven

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread Christopher Fisk
On Thu, 18 Aug 2005, Eli Allen wrote: Nuclear isn't that good. Its non renewable so won't last very long. I guess very long is subjective. http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/progress/cohen.html 2.5 billion years or so worth of Uranium according to that study. Basically, using heavy water

[H] RAID questions

2005-08-18 Thread Brian Weeden
Well after my latest HD failure I have decided it is best to pursue a RAID solution. I have 3 250 GB SATA 150 drives that I would like to start the array with and will probably be adding a couple more later. Right now the array will be going into a Athlon system with a nForce 2 mobo but soon ( 6

Re: [H] RAID questions

2005-08-18 Thread Greg Sevart
1) Any recommendations out there for cards? I was looking at the Highpoint RocketRaid ones and was fairly impressed. Any major differences between Highpoint, 3Ware, and Promise? I would stay away from both 3ware and Promise. You might look at Broadcom adapters...they seem to have very

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread Analyst
On 18 Aug 2005 at 3:17, Stan Zaske wrote: A better idea is to ban all incandescent lights for compact fluorescents which only use 1/4 the energy! Now that you mention it, there was a study published by the Rocky Mountain Institute (http://www.rmi.org/) a while back, when the electric utility

Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread j m g
You Aussies get nicer cars, I believe the WRX sold in australia has much more aggressive tuning than the one in the US because of the availability of higer octane gas and less onerous polution laws, hardware wise the the US model gets a cat pre turbo other than that the only diff is the

Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread Analyst
On 18 Aug 2005 at 7:04, Greg Sevart wrote: It wouldn't be near $80/barrel. I had seen testimony from oil drilling firms who stated that because of the difficulty of drilling through permafrost, only having seasonal access (because they can't drive the big rigs over it during the thaw

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread Analyst
On 18 Aug 2005 at 13:06, Hayes Elkins wrote: Why would a power company who's end goal is to make money want to cripple their revenue stream by making homes super efficient? I see short term cost savings in this example but I fear there is really no incentive for power companies to encourage

Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread Greg Sevart
That's interesting...because they're already doing it in parts of Alaska not in the ANWR, using eco-friendly slimhole techniques, at a cost of FAR less than $80/barrel. I call BS (on whomever originally claimed it would cost that much). Greg - Original Message - From: Analyst [EMAIL

Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread Analyst
On 18 Aug 2005 at 8:20, Greg Sevart wrote: In the case of oil, prices have recently been driven NOT by supply and demand, but by the fears of supply and demand. Easily 50% of the cost of oil today is a premium built not on actual supply or demand, but mere speculation and the fear of supply

RE: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread Analyst
On 19 Aug 2005 at 0:12, Tony Antoniou wrote: Bush made the BS oil inflation happen with his War on Terror. Sorry to all you militant Bush supporters out there but Bush and his family of oil-riggers are laughing all the way to the bank, along with the people above them pulling the strings. In

Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread Ben Ruset
Additionally, the less load on their system, the more customers they can service with their existing infrastructure. From: Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu Aug 18 13:14:24 CDT 2005 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices On 18 Aug 2005 at 13:06, Hayes Elkins wrote: Why

Re: RE: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread Ben Ruset
It's been pretty good for Exxon, Getty, Shell, etc. From: Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu Aug 18 13:29:59 CDT 2005 To: 'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] Gas prices On 19 Aug 2005 at 0:12, Tony Antoniou wrote: Bush made the BS oil inflation happen with his War

Re: [H] RAID questions

2005-08-18 Thread Christopher Fisk
On Thu, 18 Aug 2005, Brian Weeden wrote: Well after my latest HD failure I have decided it is best to pursue a RAID solution. I have 3 250 GB SATA 150 drives that I would like to start the array with and will probably be adding a couple more later. Right now the array will be going into a

RE: [H] RAID questions

2005-08-18 Thread Neil Davidson
3) Do I have to start with a set of blank drives? Right now 1 of the 3 drives has about 200GB of data on it which would not be easy to backup and get off the drive. I'm pretty sure I've seen RAID cards that can do online expansion of their raid volumes. If you decide on one that can do

[H] w2k problem

2005-08-18 Thread FORC5
have a w2k box that is erroring on boot ( some kernel not found or what not. no current repair disk and the cd can not find the OS, even though the console can ( has been a problem in the past with w2k) have ran chkdsk /r twice which has worked in the past with no luck, also the normal fixboot

[H] Speakers?

2005-08-18 Thread Gary Udstrand
I need speakers for my new PC. The Logitech speakers used to be popular, are they still the ones to get? Thanks -- -Gary

Re: [H] w2k problem

2005-08-18 Thread joeuser
Scanned for ZOTAB? wintbp.exe FORC5 wrote: have a w2k box that is erroring on boot ( some kernel not found or what not. no current repair disk and the cd can not find the OS, even though the console can ( has been a problem in the past with w2k) have ran chkdsk /r twice which has worked in

Re: [H] w2k problem

2005-08-18 Thread FORC5
can not get in to do that unless I slave it in another box ( doable) and I ( shame on me ) have never gotten around to making a pe disk. fp thanks At 01:59 PM 8/18/2005, joeuser Poked the stick with: Scanned for ZOTAB? wintbp.exe FORC5 wrote: have a w2k box that is erroring on boot ( some kernel

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread joeuser
So what's the reason for this increase now? Someone has to be saying something. I don't watch the news because I don't want to get put on Wellbutrin or other widespread happy pills / anti-depressants. -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key)

RE: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread Chris Reeves
Here are the reasons in order: Death of Saudi Arabian royalty. Fire in a second tier refinery in Illinois.. Which has mostly led to rampant stock market speculation which continues to drive the crude oil price up, up, up. A lot of what is driving it up is sheer speculation of the markets, not

Re: [H] w2k problem

2005-08-18 Thread joeuser
ZOTAB is a problem and could be yours. I'd slave it and scan. Wouldn't that be easier then wiping and installing? If it was the problem? If that didn't work and the drive *is* reliable - you can always see if the Win2K disc you have can repair it. FORC5 wrote: can not get in to do that

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread joeuser
Ah crap. Hype is driving the prices up. Figures. Thanks. Chris Reeves wrote: Here are the reasons in order: Death of Saudi Arabian royalty. Fire in a second tier refinery in Illinois.. Which has mostly led to rampant stock market speculation which continues to drive the crude oil price up,

Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread FORC5
until the hole is drilled nobody can predict anything, only guess. What's Canada getting out of there. besides there is still the Gulf once we can deep drill, larger reserves than middle east. At 06:17 AM 8/18/2005, Eli Allen Poked the stick with: Going by: http://www.doi.gov/news/030312.htm

RE: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread FORC5
bla bla bla At 07:12 AM 8/18/2005, Tony Antoniou Poked the stick with: Bush made the BS oil inflation happen with his “War on Terror”. Sorry to all you militant Bush supporters out there but Bush and his family of oil-riggers are laughing all the way to the bank, along with the people above

Re: [H] w2k problem

2005-08-18 Thread FORC5
plan on doing just that, went there today and worked on it but am waiting for him to drop it off now. current repair disk would repair it but I am afraid the proggies would be messed up ( happened once b4 ) I wonder if the repair disk can be edited not to restore the registry just find the

[H] sapo ?

2005-08-18 Thread FORC5
http://www.nicolaworthington.com/My%20Videos/silly/sapo.swf I beat this once but for the life of me kicking me again any clues appreciated fp -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- The good old days: Beer foamed and dishwater didn't.

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread Gary Udstrand
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/gasprices/FAQ.shtml#High http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/12418111.htm Q. Why did oil prices rise so fast? A. The price of crude oil jumped dramatically in recent weeks in part because of heightened fears of shortages. Oil traders are particularly nervous

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-18 Thread Gary Udstrand
Sorry, you could not be more wrong. But don't let the facts get in the way of a good tirade. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/gasprices/FAQ.shtml#High http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/12418111.htm -Gary Tony Antoniou said the following on 8/18/2005 9:12 AM: Bush made the BS oil

RE: [H] sapo ?

2005-08-18 Thread Veech
ok, name the frogs from left to right: 1 2 3 A B C 1, 2 and 3 are the green frogs L to R and A, B and C are the brown frogs L to R. click on them in this order: A - 3 - 2 - A - B - C - 3 - 2 - 1 - A - B - C - 2 - 1 - C That should do it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

RE: [H] sapo ?

2005-08-18 Thread FORC5
thanks, was kicking my butt, again and I knew I had figured it out once upon a time fp At 08:49 PM 8/18/2005, Veech Poked the stick with: ok, name the frogs from left to right: 1 2 3 A B C 1, 2 and 3 are the green frogs L to R and A, B and C are the brown frogs L to R. click on them in this