Re: [H] Thinkpad T23 dying battery

2006-04-05 Thread Winterlight
At 08:53 PM 4/5/2006, you wrote: You could save a lot of money by going to eBay. A quick search revealed a brand new OEM battery for around half the price of the generics listed on Froogle. Greg Thanks, I didn't think of Ebay. 15 bucks for a battery ! Can I trust it not to leak, or die righ

RE: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-05 Thread Wayne Johnson
At 10:24 PM 4/5/2006, Chris Reeves typed: Totally disagree. By the time you configure BART or whatever to have all the right drivers (network drivers for say, Nvidia chipset, or new Intel network drivers) SATA drivers (new Intel, ATI, Nvidia, etc.) and it loads up all of those things, you can wa

Re: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-05 Thread Wayne Johnson
At 09:45 PM 4/5/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: If I were going to try to clean up a hard drive, my preference would be to remove it and attach it to another computer and run it passively. That's what you're doing when you boot a BartPE or XpPe or Knoppix CD. --+-- Wayne D.

Re: [H] Is activating XP necessary?

2006-04-05 Thread Wayne Johnson
At 12:25 AM 4/6/2006, FORC5 typed: what does VLK stand for ? 1st time hearing that term. MSFT had a give away of a USB ThumbDrive to OEMs that could answer 4 or 5 licensing questions correctly & one of them is about VLK. VLK is volume licensing but volume licensing is suppose to be used as u

RE: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-05 Thread FORC5
received the same email, I wonder if I will get a copy with my partner subscription. FWIW I tried one care and found it not usable and blew it out. fp At 01:32 PM 4/5/2006, Wayne Johnson Poked the stick with: >I also find it interesting that I as a beta tester just rec'd email from MSFT >asking

Re: [H] Is activating XP necessary?

2006-04-05 Thread FORC5
what does VLK stand for ? 1st time hearing that term. fp At 09:12 PM 4/5/2006, warpmedia Poked the stick with: >There are also VLK versions like I'm using in college right now that do not >need to be activated at all. There is no "Corporate" edition, that's a warez >term for a VLK version that n

Re: [H] Is activating XP necessary?

2006-04-05 Thread FORC5
every time I have seen this *30 days* message on next reboot got a message *must activate to log on*. maybe I am just lucky. fp :'( At 08:18 PM 4/5/2006, Ben Ruset Poked the stick with: >If you're testing hardware, chances are the build won't be together in 30 >days, and therefore no need to act

Re: [H] Is activating XP necessary?

2006-04-05 Thread warpmedia
There are also VLK versions like I'm using in college right now that do not need to be activated at all. There is no "Corporate" edition, that's a warez term for a VLK version that needs no activation. Even better we are given access to the MS Academic Alliance which grants us free copies of e

Re: [H] Thinkpad T23 dying battery

2006-04-05 Thread Greg Sevart
You could save a lot of money by going to eBay. A quick search revealed a brand new OEM battery for around half the price of the generics listed on Froogle. Greg - Original Message - From: "Winterlight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:01 PM Subject: [H] Th

Re: [H] Is activating XP necessary?

2006-04-05 Thread Ben Ruset
If you're testing hardware, chances are the build won't be together in 30 days, and therefore no need to activate. FORC5 wrote: welcome to Bill's world I often wonder what places that test hardware all the time do about this, my guess is a corporate version. fp At 12:29 PM 4/5/2006, [EMAIL P

[H] Thinkpad T23 dying battery

2006-04-05 Thread Winterlight
My Thinkpad T23 Li-ion battery is dying. It lasts about 30 minutes. I guess there is no way to "refresh" them, like a NICAD , is there? First time I had a laptop battery go badthese things are expensive... any suggestions on where to buy one? Any reason I shouldn't buy a generic on like

Re: [H] Is activating XP necessary?

2006-04-05 Thread FORC5
welcome to Bill's world I often wonder what places that test hardware all the time do about this, my guess is a corporate version. fp At 12:29 PM 4/5/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Poked the stick with: >Had a major computer crash yesterday, ended up losing my main C drive a >Raptor 36G drive. ugh!

RE: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-05 Thread Chris Reeves
Totally disagree. By the time you configure BART or whatever to have all the right drivers (network drivers for say, Nvidia chipset, or new Intel network drivers) SATA drivers (new Intel, ATI, Nvidia, etc.) and it loads up all of those things, you can wait a while. On a decent fast machine, it's

RE: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-05 Thread Christopher Klein
That takes way too much time. Boot from CD and clean it from there. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 9:45 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Be

Re: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-05 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: "Wayne Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Hardware List" Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 4:32 PM Subject: RE: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible We're still here. Isn't it funny how MSFT does NOT address booting another OS ev

Re: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-05 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: "Wayne Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Hardware List" Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 3:42 PM Subject: RE: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible Sounds to me like MSFT is trying to scare people into Windows Defender or Window

Re: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-05 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: "Mesdaq, Ali" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Hardware List" Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 2:04 PM Subject: RE: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible Exactly what we were debating a few weeks ago. Where are those "I can clean any infe

RE: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware BecomingImpossible

2006-04-05 Thread CW
Yeah, I got the same crap. I'm pretty unhappy with too many of the functions, the lack of ability to customize it (ie, tell it not to scan folders; not to run tune-up, etc.) CW -Original message- From: Wayne Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 14:34:17 -0500 To: The Hardwa

RE: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-05 Thread Wayne Johnson
At 02:04 PM 4/5/2006, Mesdaq, Ali typed: Exactly what we were debating a few weeks ago. Where are those "I can clean any infection" guys at now? We're still here. Isn't it funny how MSFT does NOT address booting another OS even XP & cleaning these affected HDs? I've already successfully clea

RE: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-05 Thread Mesdaq, Ali
As long as there are operating systems that allow people to run applications as ring 0 there will always be social engineering tricks to get a system so messed up re-imaging will be necessary. Supposedly the next version of MS will not allow anymore ring 0 apps unless certified by MS. -Ori

Re: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-05 Thread warpmedia
Just because a car can do 100MPH doesn't mean you blame the manufacture for diver incompetence. If you don't change your oil (ie have knowledge) it's your fault when you get that repair bill or end up stranded in the middle of nowhere. People need to learn proper habits, period. I welcome a ti

Re: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-05 Thread warpmedia
Uh huh, and in a few years well be saying the same about them also. It's the nature of the beast with programmable systems and programmer/companies more concerned with moving widgets than getting them bug free. Granted MS has become the poster child for this, but that's what happens to the pro

Re: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-05 Thread warpmedia
Starting with DOS, then Win9x as what the customer base is used to? Point is that bugs & usability are the "root" culprit. Any user friendly OS is going to have at least a similar problem. Even the touted "exploit & virus free" Mac's are finally get attention for the black hats and my guess w

RE: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-05 Thread Wayne Johnson
At 03:31 PM 4/5/2006, Thane Sherrington (S) typed: I'm still not convinced that the only response to any infection is a total reinstall. But I haven't read the article completely yet, so perhaps I'll come around. But if MS is right, then it's time for everyone, and I mean everyone, to abandon

RE: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-05 Thread Thane Sherrington (S)
At 03:04 PM 05/04/2006, Mesdaq, Ali wrote: Exactly what we were debating a few weeks ago. Where are those "I can clean any infection" guys at now? I'm still not convinced that the only response to any infection is a total reinstall. But I haven't read the article completely yet, so perhaps I

[H] Is activating XP necessary?

2006-04-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Had a major computer crash yesterday, ended up losing my main C drive a Raptor 36G drive. ugh! Anyway, I had to reinstall XP, now I'm getting the message to activate it within 30 days. Can I just ignore this or will bad things happen in 30 days?I plan to install the same XP on my new syste

RE: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-05 Thread Mesdaq, Ali
Exactly what we were debating a few weeks ago. Where are those "I can clean any infection" guys at now? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 5:03 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Microsoft

Re: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-05 Thread CW
I think what he's saying is by default, new accounts within Windows XP non-networked are set to have full priveleges. -Original message- From: "Hayes Elkins" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 08:21:21 -0500 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery fro

Re: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-05 Thread Hayes Elkins
2001 called I dont even log in with an administrator account unless I have to install something. One reason *nix boxes are not compromised as much is because this practice is beaten into your head from the get go. never_log_in_as_root_unless_you_must From: "Thane Sherrington (S)" <[EMA

[H] Work Orders

2006-04-05 Thread Chris Shaw
Do some of you techies have a work order that you wouldn't mind sharing?? I have one that is in bad need of updating. I would like to see some others to get some ideas on design. Thanks! -- C L Shaw <>< <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Today is a moment for you to clip yet another strand from the rope of

Re: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-05 Thread Thane Sherrington (S)
At 07:04 AM 05/04/2006, warpmedia wrote: LOL, bash away boys, the next popular OS will have the same issues. Yeah, how was MS to know that running an OS with all users as root would be bad idea? T

Re: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-05 Thread GP
As Microsoft's guy, I already told you "We only deliver what you need, but it's up to you because you're the one to choose to do, so it's your own risk" You are familiar with ir, are you guys :lol At 05:04 PM 4/5/2006, warpmedia wrote: LOL, bash away boys, the next popular OS will have the sam

Re: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-05 Thread warpmedia
LOL, bash away boys, the next popular OS will have the same issues. Jin-Wei Tioh wrote: At 08:12 PM 4/4/2006, you wrote: And don't forget to include the Geniuses from Redmond that gave us the fertile ground of their security-hole ridden OS that made all this possible in the first place...