At 07:50 PM 4/6/2006, Chris Reeves typed:
The problem with that solution is it isn't very realistic.
Somedays having any solution is better than the alternative. ;-)
With more people adopting NForce4 boards, or newer Intel, Via, etc. boards,
they have SATA drives without native drive support
, etc.
:)
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At 09:46 AM 4/6/2006, Chris Reeves typed:
>T
At 09:46 AM 4/6/2006, Chris Reeves typed:
There are, however, numerous add-ons that do copy plenty to RAMDISK before
working.
Sure there are. Everyone that creates a plugin thinks their apps must
install to the RAMDISK. Heck I even copy my Favorites to the RAMDISK
on bootup but is it req'd?
At 07:45 AM 4/6/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
Albany, Georgia is an area where people do not haggle over the price
of a new forty grand vehicle but want to haggle for 3 days over a
thousand dollar computer and then either go buy a five hundred
dollar Wal*Mart special or a three grand dell, no
we might potentially need, the
load time can be sucky, no matter what you do.
CW
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At 08:05 AM 4/6/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
I tried one of those homemade boot Windows XP operating systems.
That thing took a long time to boot up. It had to copy all of that
stuff from the CD into RAM which I guess is the reason it was slow
to boot. In a normal boot, my shop computer simpl
At 12:28 AM 4/6/2006, FORC5 typed:
received the same email, I wonder if I will get a copy with my
partner subscription.
FWIW I tried one care and found it not usable and blew it out.
Wouldn't that be something if the MAPS update didn't arrive until
early May then peeps that wanted OneCare won
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Still I would much rather boot a BartPe or XpPe
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That takes way too much time. Boot fr
At 10:24 PM 4/5/2006, Chris Reeves typed:
Totally disagree. By the time you configure BART or whatever to have all
the right drivers (network drivers for say, Nvidia chipset, or new Intel
network drivers) SATA drivers (new Intel, ATI, Nvidia, etc.) and it loads up
all of those things, you can wa
At 09:45 PM 4/5/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
If I were going to try to clean up a hard drive, my preference would
be to remove it and attach it to another computer and run it passively.
That's what you're doing when you boot a BartPE or XpPe or Knoppix CD.
--+--
Wayne D.
received the same email, I wonder if I will get a copy with my partner
subscription.
FWIW I tried one care and found it not usable and blew it out.
fp
At 01:32 PM 4/5/2006, Wayne Johnson Poked the stick with:
>I also find it interesting that I as a beta tester just rec'd email from MSFT
>asking
t Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible
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Becoming Impossible
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> We're still here. Isn
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We're still here. Isn't it funny how MSFT
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Sounds to me like MSFT is trying to scare peopl
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Exactly what we were debating a few weeks ago. Where
At 02:04 PM 4/5/2006, Mesdaq, Ali typed:
Exactly what we were debating a few weeks ago. Where are those "I can
clean any infection" guys at now?
We're still here. Isn't it funny how MSFT does NOT address booting
another OS even XP & cleaning these affected HDs? I've already
successfully clea
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At 03:04 PM 05/04/2006, Mesdaq, Ali wrote:
>Exactly w
Just because a car can do 100MPH doesn't mean you blame the manufacture
for diver incompetence. If you don't change your oil (ie have knowledge)
it's your fault when you get that repair bill or end up stranded in the
middle of nowhere.
People need to learn proper habits, period. I welcome a ti
Uh huh, and in a few years well be saying the same about them also.
It's the nature of the beast with programmable systems and
programmer/companies more concerned with moving widgets than getting
them bug free. Granted MS has become the poster child for this, but
that's what happens to the pro
Starting with DOS, then Win9x as what the customer base is used to?
Point is that bugs & usability are the "root" culprit. Any user friendly
OS is going to have at least a similar problem.
Even the touted "exploit & virus free" Mac's are finally get attention
for the black hats and my guess w
At 03:31 PM 4/5/2006, Thane Sherrington (S) typed:
I'm still not convinced that the only response to any infection is a
total reinstall. But I haven't read the article completely yet, so
perhaps I'll come around. But if MS is right, then it's time for
everyone, and I mean everyone, to abandon
At 03:04 PM 05/04/2006, Mesdaq, Ali wrote:
Exactly what we were debating a few weeks ago. Where are those "I can
clean any infection" guys at now?
I'm still not convinced that the only response to any infection is a
total reinstall. But I haven't read the article completely yet, so
perhaps I
Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible
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Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible
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By Ryan Naraine
LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla.-In a rare discussion about the severity of th
into your head from the get go.
> never_log_in_as_root_unless_you_must
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At 07:04 AM 05/04/2006, warpmedia wrote:
LOL, bash away boys, the next popular OS will have
At 07:04 AM 05/04/2006, warpmedia wrote:
LOL, bash away boys, the next popular OS will have the same issues.
Yeah, how was MS to know that running an OS with all users as root
would be bad idea?
T
As Microsoft's guy, I already told you "We only deliver what you need, but
it's up to you because you're the one to choose to do, so it's your own risk"
You are familiar with ir, are you guys :lol
At 05:04 PM 4/5/2006, warpmedia wrote:
LOL, bash away boys, the next popular OS will have the sam
LOL, bash away boys, the next popular OS will have the same issues.
Jin-Wei Tioh wrote:
At 08:12 PM 4/4/2006, you wrote:
And don't forget to include the Geniuses from Redmond that gave us the
fertile
ground of their security-hole ridden OS that made all this possible in
the first
place...
At 08:12 PM 4/4/2006, you wrote:
And don't forget to include the Geniuses from Redmond that gave us the fertile
ground of their security-hole ridden OS that made all this possible in the
first
place...
Bill
Heh... that too :P
I guess the blame breaks down to, what? 80% - 20%?
80% - MS's fau
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> That
That's exactly why it has become standard policy for all the machines under
care to
restore the OS from a frequently updated image once it becomes infected
with malware.
Just can't really trust it anymore. D*mn malware authors to h**l.
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JW
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Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible
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By Ryan Naraine
LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla.In a rare discussion about the severity of the
Windows malware scourge, a Microsoft security official sai
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