From: DHSinclair
I have already been told that I may NOT fix my Sister's machine (even
though I built the thing)! She will call me for the real-time walk-thru of
Doesn't want you to find the porn? VBG
LOL!
Rick,
That is a possibility, but it is a family dynamic thing. Father is a
self-professed computer wizard of the MS-Dos and W95 days. He adds
dual-boot and special partitions so he can load all his old DOS tools. He
maintains that he will fix his own computers his way. The nephew is
Are there still PCI and AGP video cards available that can image the newer
wide-screen panels at their native resolutions?
I do know that most PCI-e video cards do, but I have a need for a card that
is either AGP or PCI. The current video card is an old Asus nVidia-based
card (1st/2d
There are still AGP cards being made, or at least were. ATI for sure, NV dunno, but
driver issues abound with ATI AGP solutions from what I read.
Regular PCI video died when AGP took over, as PCIe has done /now.
DHSinclair wrote:
Are there still PCI and AGP video cards available that can image
At 11:49 AM 12/1/2008, you wrote:
Are there still PCI and AGP video cards available that can image the
newer wide-screen panels at their native resolutions?
I do know that most PCI-e video cards do, but I have a need for a
card that is either AGP or PCI.
your G450 AGP or PCI will do
You can absolutely still get AGP and PCI cards. I bought a PCI card a
couple months ago for a multi-monitor office setup. I just went to a
local computer store and got the cheapest PCI card they had (I think
it was an ATI).
A quick search on tigerdirect.com (they have a warehouse store
Of DHSinclair
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 2:49 PM
To: Hardware Group
Subject: [H] Video Card question(s)
Are there still PCI and AGP video cards available that can image the newer
wide-screen panels at their native resolutions?
I do know that most PCI-e video cards do, but I have a need for a card
j.,
Thanks. You confirm my observations completely. I know I have to move to
the new PCI-e interface. I'll chum for AGP cards for my remaining 2 old
clients until I can afford to bring them into the light of the current day.
I will save my old PCI Matrox cards for my server! I know that
Scott,
I have some old orders with tigerdirect.com. I will go and noodle around
there in the AM.
Yes, we both found the same reviews it seems. I gave that old V6800 card
to my Sister back in 2004. And it was from my working bone-yard
then. Not a problem. A simple search at the nVidia site
night.. :)
Thank you,
Duncan
Eli
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Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 2:49 PM
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Subject: [H] Video Card question(s)
Are there still PCI and AGP video cards available that can
experience, every ATI card I ever dealt with either new install, upgrade or
whatever has been a PITA
I try real hard not to slam my thumb in the car door more then once
fp
At 07:35 AM 11/24/2008, maccrawj Poked the stick with:
You think ATI is ruining AMD? Excuse me for the insult, but you are
AMD cards are great - I've been buying them exclusively for the last several
years. It's their drivers that are crap (although to be fair, Nvidia's are
far from perfect as well, but AMD's are worse still).
---
Brian Weeden
Technical Consultant
Secure World Foundation
You think ATI is ruining AMD? Excuse me for the insult, but you are a moron sir! Read
a bit about AMD's business practices and their effect on both companies.
If you're insinuating that ATI video cards are sub-par, then you've been drinking NV
cool-aid while ignoring reviews benchmarks.
Stan is taking about AMD/ATI's video cards I assume. AMD now owns (and so far is
ruining) ATI.
DHSinclair wrote:
Stan,
I do so get your focus. But, I have moved to Intel C2D, right or wrong
for my updates/upgrades. I will just have to deal with stuff I miss
because of this decision. ATM,
j.,
Yes, I know this. I remember when AMD bought ATI.
Duncan
At 10:07 11/20/2008 -0800, you wrote:
Stan is taking about AMD/ATI's video cards I assume. AMD now owns (and so
far is ruining) ATI.
DHSinclair wrote:
Stan,
I do so get your focus. But, I have moved to Intel C2D, right or wrong
other way around me thinks
fp
:'(
At 11:07 AM 11/20/2008, maccrawj Poked the stick with:
Stan is taking about AMD/ATI's video cards I assume. AMD now owns (and so far
is ruining) ATI.
--
Tallyho ! ]:8)
Taglines below !
--
AMD's melt in your PC, not in your hand.
Mis-quotes of how bad ATI's driver issues are starting to wear thin. Both companies
have issues that arise, generally with AGP video support or specific games, then
maybe something else like general stability.
The driver package is the same for the entire product line, true also with
Nvidia.
j.,
Yes, thank you. I do understand. I do know that I will be doing your 'It's
simple' kind of test. I do have to test the waters and form my own
opinion. Yes, most is truly better than my very old Matrox cards. I do
accept this. I do know their limitations. But, in a pinch, they still light
I agree that either companies products would be fine. Personally
speaking, I've upgraded my gaming box from an AMD 3850 to their current
4850 using Catalyst drivers going way back with zero issues. In December
AMD is introducing a fascinating new mainstream feature called, Stream
computing in
Stan,
I do so get your focus. But, I have moved to Intel C2D, right or wrong for
my updates/upgrades. I will just have to deal with stuff I miss because of
this decision. ATM, Intel represents a larger choice than AMD does. Yes, I
do so want AMD to keep on trucking! Intel needs all the
Sorry I went off on a tangent, I just meant to say that nVidia makes
fine video cards as well as AMD.
DHSinclair wrote:
Stan,
I do so get your focus. But, I have moved to Intel C2D, right or wrong
for my updates/upgrades. I will just have to deal with stuff I miss
because of this decision.
Stan,
You have not reason to apologize. Really!
I recall your focus. And, I like your focus. I read. I decide. I do.
I have been an nVidia fan for years, but, I have lost focus. Obviosly!
New stuff to learn.
No harm. No foul.
The new toy is now up and running w2k. I will probably snag your
A Matrox G200 running on a C2D box with W2K. Now that's what I call,
best bang for the buck. I'm very impressed!
DHSinclair wrote:
Stan,
You have not reason to apologize. Really!
I recall your focus. And, I like your focus. I read. I decide. I do.
I have been an nVidia fan for years, but, I
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:07:26 -0500
DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
new machine is running well with a PCI Matrox G200! Damn!
major snip
For accelerated video, you're probably write but I'd be suspect
just based on how low the price is.
That's twelve quotes :)
Duncan,
Email me your
Stan,
Yes, the old G200 is happily doing video duties on a new C2D
install. Surprised I am Still.
LOL!
I am very much in the run-whatcha-brung crowd. Perhaps this confused my
earlier questions. I do apologize. I really meant no disrespect. I was just
asking questions. And, searching
Given what he's been running on, I'm sure a hamster on a wheel is faster! ;)
A review on Anandtech for it:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3444
Stan Zaske wrote:
Duncan just wanted to have a video card that was competent for web based
video and this card is obviously overkill
J/Stan,
Hey! Hey! It is a Guinea Pig; not a hamster. Yes, I may be 1 or 2
generations behind. I use AMD Barton 2500+'s, an AMD TBird 1400M, and some
Intel P3's. Most of my video cards are nVidia GeForce 4's or nVidia
FX5500's. Yes, not top drawer, but it all seems to do OK for my needs. I am
Stan,
Well, yes and no. Yes, I have a new/replacement PC built; a C2D/P45/DDR3
that is just missing a video card. I do have 3 PCI cards that I can try,
but I have to take another PC down to try. ATM, my spare G200-PCI may be
bad. I will confirm this tonight.
And, no, you missed nothing. I
Let's say I have an old PCI video card. Let's say that I 'think' that it
might be bad.
(it seems to be weak lighting up the display at post!)
But, I have this brandy, spanking, new set of toys that need a video card
just to see if it even works.. :)
What are the chances that a
Excellent card with great value for those that game seldom yet it will
also accelerate HD video if you watch Blue Ray movies.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127391
DHSinclair wrote:
Let's say I have an old PCI video card. Let's say that I 'think' that
it might be
Thanks Stan,
I'll give it a look.
Duncan
At 16:37 11/17/2008 -0600, you wrote:
Excellent card with great value for those that game seldom yet it will
also accelerate HD video if you watch Blue Ray movies.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127391
DHSinclair wrote:
Let's
Gotta love how Newegg's specs are always flat out wrong or have the wrong
definition.
The GPU is HD4350 but that's the card model, not the actual GPU's model, LOL!
For accelerated video, you're probably write but I'd be suspect just based on how low
the price is.
Stan Zaske wrote:
Duncan just wanted to have a video card that was competent for web based
video and this card is obviously overkill for that but the price is very
reasonable. It should even be powerful enough for some casual gaming at
low resolutions.
maccrawj wrote:
Gotta love how Newegg's specs are always
I want to thank everyone who replied with suggestions, opinions and personal
experience with video cards. I finally decided on the Sapphire Radeon HD
2600PRO 256MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 card. Price, performance and
reputation came together in the proper proportions. Installed the card and
Agreed on Sapphire's RMA being no sweat, good company.
HD3850 Best bang compared to 8800GT when they hit $200
in a few weeks??? News to me!
zaske wrote:
James Maki wrote:
I've owned several Sapphire cards and even had a
Radeon 9600XT go out on
me. Sapphire gave me an RMA no questions of
At 08:03 PM 23/11/2007, James Maki wrote:
Sapphire ATI card- (~$85 with shipping)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102103
I've used Sapphire for some time. Seems like a reliable brand.
T
James Maki wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Thane Sherrington
At 01:58 PM 22/11/2007, James Maki wrote:
From what I could find, that was my diagnosis as well.
Hence the reason I
was looking for suggestions for a new card :)
Oh. Duh. I'd look at the X1650 or HD2600
I'd skip the x1650 and look into a X1950 or better.
The X1300 X1650 series are
rebadging jokes played upon the consumer. The
X1650XT's can't even match
X850XT's which have older RV480 chipsets, lower clock,
a larger 256-bit memory
bus.
At 01:58 PM 22/11/2007, James Maki wrote:
From what I could find, that was my diagnosis as well. Hence the reason I
was looking for suggestions for a new card :)
Oh. Duh. I'd look at the X1650 or HD2600 Pro. They are fairly
inexpensive and will give you a speed boost. On the NVidia side,
Jim,
If you have the rest of the support for it, I'd go with this:
XFX nVidia card- (~$97 with rebate and shipping)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150230
I have not had completely good use of an ATI card yet. I do have a server
with
an on-board ATI RAGE chip. It
-Original Message-
From: Thane Sherrington
At 01:58 PM 22/11/2007, James Maki wrote:
From what I could find, that was my diagnosis as well.
Hence the reason I
was looking for suggestions for a new card :)
Oh. Duh. I'd look at the X1650 or HD2600 Pro. They are fairly
At 10:26 PM 21/11/2007, James Maki wrote:
Already checked. Fan working and dust bunny free! Case, filters, temps and
fans all check out.
Sounds to me like you have bad video RAM.
T
First, so glad to be back on the list! I was really missing the posts.
Now, I have a PCI-e x16, Gigabyte Radeon X600 video card that is giving me
some problems. I have had to underclock to prevent artifacts and Civ 4 from
crashing my system. So, I am looking for a new card (for Christmas?) and am
Degraded performance IMHO is very rare because when any of the
electronics fail it stops working. Sounds like you have a centimeter of
dust covering the thing. Time to clean out the dust bunnies my friend!
Happy turkey day!
James Maki wrote:
First, so glad to be back on the list! I was
Already checked. Fan working and dust bunny free! Case, filters, temps and
fans all check out.
Thanks for playing and have an enjoyable Turkey Day yourself!
Jim
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From: zaske
Degraded performance IMHO is very rare because when any of the
electronics fail it
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