Re: [hlds] Problems with hlds / master server / restarting servers

2009-12-09 Thread Midnight
Have had a few servers I installed lately not starting up, tbh hadn't got into what the issue is but this sounds like my problem also. Ronny Schedel wrote: > This master server is causing it: > > 72.165.61.189:27010 > > But this one is still valid as a master server for HL1 games in Steam. > St

Re: [hlds] Problems with hlds / master server / restarting servers

2009-12-09 Thread Ronny Schedel
This master server is causing it: 72.165.61.189:27010 But this one is still valid as a master server for HL1 games in Steam. Strange. > It startet yesterday around 12pm CET: > > L 12/09/2009 - 12:23:41: Your server needs to be restarted in order to > receive the latest update. > > It seems on

Re: [hlds] Problems with hlds / master server / restarting servers

2009-12-09 Thread Ronny Schedel
It startet yesterday around 12pm CET: L 12/09/2009 - 12:23:41: Your server needs to be restarted in order to receive the latest update. It seems one of the master servers has a different version or does not accept the game at all to be listed. > Hello, > > There seem to be some problems with

[hlds] Problems with hlds / master server / restarting servers

2009-12-09 Thread david mullaney
Yes, Im having the same problem on windows based servers. Traffic into my servers still seems to be normal. Last update for CS 1.6 was in June 2009, so not really sure why we're getting this now. Whats the build date on your server? _

Re: [hlds] friendship??

2009-12-09 Thread Alexander King
Please email valve this isn't relevant to hlds thanks - gamers-network.co.uk Sent from from my iphone away from the office On 10 Dec 2009, at 01:20, Alec Sanger wrote: > > Relevant to server administration. > >> From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> Date: Wed

Re: [hlds] friendship??

2009-12-09 Thread Alec Sanger
Relevant to server administration. > From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:43:48 -0500 > Subject: Re: [hlds] friendship?? > > Dear Valve, > > Please release your global update according to my schedule as I find the > time table of "when

Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released

2009-12-09 Thread GuzZ Serveradministration
Same for me here, but I flagged motd and host.txt as read-only, as a quick workaround... 2009/12/10 > So here is a dumb question... > > Why does ever single L4D2 update overwrite the MOTD file with the default > that directs here: http://www.l4d.com/l4d2_servermessage/ > > What is the point? Or

Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released

2009-12-09 Thread Jonah Hirsch
Until they DO unflag it, the best course of action is to set "motdfile" and "hostfile" in your server.cfg to other filenames (motd2.txt and host2.txt work fine!) Jonah Hirsch --- On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 6:09 PM, wrote: > So here is a dumb question... > > Why does ever single

Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released

2009-12-09 Thread Brent Veal
It is rather annoying, but you can use some cvars in your server.cfg to direct your motd and host files to something else: hostfile "yourhostfile.txt" motdfile "yourmotdfile.txt" I use those so even though the originals get overwritten with each update, it doesnt matter. I've read that you can al

Re: [hlds] friendship??

2009-12-09 Thread Mike Kurfis
So a comment about how my schedule change will help me update my servers closer to the release time turns into "Dear Valve, you're so inconvenient"? You're going to dislocate a shoulder reaching like that. On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:43 PM, msleeper wrote: > Dear Valve, > > Please release your globa

Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released

2009-12-09 Thread arreottp
So here is a dumb question... Why does ever single L4D2 update overwrite the MOTD file with the default that directs here: http://www.l4d.com/l4d2_servermessage/ What is the point? Or did Valve just forget to unflag that file as included in the update? Or am I the only person who this annoys? __

Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released

2009-12-09 Thread Jonah Hirsch
Huh. It says "The major changes include:". I wonder what the non-included major changes and the minor changes are. Jonah Hirsch --- On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Andrew Armstrong wrote: > Hey all, > > > > Just an FYI there was a L4D2 update released a short while ago which

Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released

2009-12-09 Thread Joseph Sullivan
Lets hope that this is the first of many good L4D2 updates. On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Andrew Armstrong wrote: > Hey all, > > > > Just an FYI there was a L4D2 update released a short while ago which > appears > to have a server update too, I didn't see it announced: > > > > http://store.stea

Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server

2009-12-09 Thread Rick Payton
hardly. --mauirixxx -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Blood Letter Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:03 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server Msleeper shits

[hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released

2009-12-09 Thread Andrew Armstrong
Hey all, Just an FYI there was a L4D2 update released a short while ago which appears to have a server update too, I didn't see it announced: http://store.steampowered.com/news/3217/ Left 4 Dead 2 * Changed rules for ghost placement in Scavenge Mode * Player controlled Special

Re: [hlds] friendship??

2009-12-09 Thread msleeper
Dear Valve, Please release your global update according to my schedule as I find the time table of "when it's finished" to be a hamper on my productivity. Thank you, Mike Kurfis On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 15:39 -0800, Mike Kurfis wrote: > I hope it's next week. I'll be off work and able to pull the

Re: [hlds] friendship??

2009-12-09 Thread Mike Kurfis
I hope it's next week. I'll be off work and able to pull the trigger a lot closer to actual release time for a change. On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Sam Kindler wrote: > I'd guess at the start of next week, most likely Tuesday. > > 2009/12/9 Jonah Hirsch > > > I'd have to assume so. Tomorrow

Re: [hlds] friendship??

2009-12-09 Thread Sam Kindler
I'd guess at the start of next week, most likely Tuesday. 2009/12/9 Jonah Hirsch > I'd have to assume so. Tomorrow seems the most likely date, although they > could just be announcing the update features over the next few days, as has > been the trend, followed by the update some time next week

Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server

2009-12-09 Thread msleeper
I personally liked how it was entirely out of context since he ingeniously deleted what he was replying to. On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 07:19 +0800, Shane Arnold wrote: > Thankyou for your insightful and helpful post. At least he remains > somewhat on topic. > > Welcome to my spam list bw_bloodlet...

Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server

2009-12-09 Thread Shane Arnold
Thankyou for your insightful and helpful post. At least he remains somewhat on topic. Welcome to my spam list bw_bloodlet...@hotmail.com On 10/12/2009 7:02 AM, Blood Letter wrote: > Msleeper shits up the list again. > > _

Re: [hlds] friendship??

2009-12-09 Thread Jonah Hirsch
I'd have to assume so. Tomorrow seems the most likely date, although they could just be announcing the update features over the next few days, as has been the trend, followed by the update some time next week (or on the weekend). Jonah Hirsch --- On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:11 P

Re: [hlds] friendship??

2009-12-09 Thread Sam Kindler
I guess we'll find out in a day. 2009/12/9 Shawn Somers > > Does this mean I should be prepared for another update in the very near > future?? > > Shawn > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: >

[hlds] friendship??

2009-12-09 Thread Shawn Somers
Does this mean I should be prepared for another update in the very near future?? Shawn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds

Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server

2009-12-09 Thread Blood Letter
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Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server

2009-12-09 Thread Shane Arnold
Correct, This is a perfect case for why you shouldn't post when you have the flu, haven't slept and are under the influence of multiple pharmaceuticals. In which case, I would like to say that SourceBans sounds like a lovely solution for admins, while SteamBans is the one I dislike. On 10/12/2

Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server

2009-12-09 Thread msleeper
Wait hold on, I think you mixed up the 2 names. SourceBans is a SourceMod+MySQL based banning plugin. It is useful to track bans and provide a lot more ban support than the built in banned_users.cfg. It is local-only. It's also useful if you have multiple servers and don't want to sync your banfil

Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server

2009-12-09 Thread Shane Arnold
Absolutely right, I didn't realise Sourcebans also allowed local-only bans. I was under the impression it was purely a community-driven system with no actual control over local bans. On 10/12/2009 6:25 AM, msleeper wrote: > You have to think of it this way: there are at any given point in time >

Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server

2009-12-09 Thread msleeper
You have to think of it this way: there are at any given point in time about 3,000 TF2 servers online and usually around 10-15k players playing the game. A player being banned from your 2 or 3 or however many servers is literally a drop in the massive bucket of potential places to play. I think tha

Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server

2009-12-09 Thread Shane Arnold
I have a problem with community-created banlists, and their adoption by server owners (i.e Sourcebans). For example, for my short duration on these lists I have seen entire groups, associated groups and their members banned due to the wrong-doings of one person. Not only this, but some of those

Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server

2009-12-09 Thread Phillip Vector
It is a bit more difficult then that. What constitutes a swear varies from person to person. I never considered "Damm" a curse and was quite surprised that some do. Varing levels of sensitivity can be an issue. On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:43 PM, msleeper wrote: > The how is pretty simple; get a text

Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server

2009-12-09 Thread msleeper
You need to get your facts straight; I didn't -provide- anybody with anything. I made something available to those who wanted to get it, but I certainly didn't email people telling them it needed to be done. It's your own problem if you have an issue with what other people do and I'm pretty sure mo

Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server

2009-12-09 Thread Phillip Vector
Oh.. I agree fully. If someone decided to implement a swear ban plug-in, I would be all for it for the server owners who wanted it. The only issue I would have is if the maker of said plug-in said that swearing is cheating and everyone should ban these people. Then provide the server owners with a

Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server

2009-12-09 Thread msleeper
The how is pretty simple; get a text chat language filter, and for voice find yourself some people who want to admin and think swearing is bad also. It's not rocket surgery. On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 16:40 -0500, Mark wrote: > I personally don't care if someone runs their mouth (unless they are > int

Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server

2009-12-09 Thread Mark
I personally don't care if someone runs their mouth (unless they are intentionally stirring the pot and offending players and admins) - however racial slurs are generally not acceptable (one would hope), so such means might be useful in that case. Racial profanities will easily get you slapped with

Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server

2009-12-09 Thread Shane Arnold
Haha, oh ouch. Anyway, as msleeper said, server owners can do what they like with their servers. On 10/12/2009 5:31 AM, Phillip Vector wrote: > Yeah. it's not like he's running some kind of list of people he feels > are cheaters and making it seem they deserve to be banned from all the > servers

Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server

2009-12-09 Thread msleeper
I knew you would chime in with your astonishingly intelligent remarks (always followed by a smiley face) and I'm glad you did; these two things are in fact pretty much the same issue. You clearly don't understand why someone doesn't like players doing X on my servers, but it's also not required tha

Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server

2009-12-09 Thread Phillip Vector
Yeah. it's not like he's running some kind of list of people he feels are cheaters and making it seem they deserve to be banned from all the servers for something like idling.. I also bet he isn't setting up a server just to catch said idlers either. :) On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:15 PM, msleeper wr

Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server

2009-12-09 Thread Ook
At my age I don't really have the brain cells to spare :-). But I've been on this mailing list longer then most of you, and I learned a long time ago that it's pointless to complain about OT postings. While we are on this subject, have you noticed how calm it has been here lately? That is a bit

Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server

2009-12-09 Thread Ook
OP4 has no voice comms - Valve/Gearbox never got around to adding it. - Original Message - From: "Shane Arnold" To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server > Yeah, that's the line along wh

Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server

2009-12-09 Thread msleeper
Or you can fire up another 2 or 3 brain cells and realize that this isn't the place for client gripes. But as I said, your rules are your rules and that is A-Okay with me. I don't care what other people do on their own servers, and since I don't play there it doesn't matter if I understand why you

Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server

2009-12-09 Thread Ook
I probably waste more time discussing things with people that just don't get it...what I do works and I have players in my server, many of which come to my server because of my rules. Doesn't really matter to me whether anyone else here gets it or agrees with it or not. And if my comments on cli

Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server

2009-12-09 Thread msleeper
I don't know, maybe he does. He spends a lot of his time doing pointless things like complaining about client issues on a server mailing list, maybe he has time to sit in on his server and play moderator. In seriousness though, the whole profanity issues falls under "admin preference". The people

Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server

2009-12-09 Thread Shane Arnold
Yeah, that's the line along which I was thinking. Most people would be swearing quite freely over the microphone, and I don't think Ook sit's there monitoring voice comms on his server 24/7. Just seems kind of pointless. On 10/12/2009 4:55 AM, msleeper wrote: > Probably little if any. Most of t

Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server

2009-12-09 Thread msleeper
Probably little if any. Most of the kiddies who freak out with the swearing usually do it over mic. On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 04:46 +0800, Shane Arnold wrote: > I am interested in knowing the impact of having word-filters enabled on > the player count. I don't agree with the practice, but then again

[hlds] Problems with hlds / master server / restarting servers

2009-12-09 Thread Rens Ariens
Hello, There seem to be some problems with servers restarting or telling it's not up to date: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1055504 http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1055641 Disabling autoupdate works, but it keeps displaying: restart to update th

Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server

2009-12-09 Thread Shane Arnold
I am interested in knowing the impact of having word-filters enabled on the player count. I don't agree with the practice, but then again it's not my server(s). On 10/12/2009 4:12 AM, Ook wrote: > I only ban those that refuse to follow the rules, and my ban list is quite > small. Those that can'

Re: [hlds] Profanity in your server

2009-12-09 Thread Ook
I only ban those that refuse to follow the rules, and my ban list is quite small. Those that can't control their potty mouth don't usually hang around for long. The rest of us don't have a problem with it. One of admin mods default plugins has a swear filter, or actually a word filter because y

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

2009-12-09 Thread Joel R.
Was the Scouts 6 shot shotgun damage tweaked by accident? Seems to be doing more damage. On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:15 PM, f0rkz wrote: > That wasn't really my point exactly. I know teens play this and > everything else. Hell, I played computer games when I was a teen. > > It was more of a, if

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

2009-12-09 Thread f0rkz
That wasn't really my point exactly. I know teens play this and everything else. Hell, I played computer games when I was a teen. It was more of a, if teens play this they know its an M rated game and I believe thats why those disclaimers say "Online interactions are not rated by the ESRB" or wh

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

2009-12-09 Thread Mark
My post was intended for w4rezz, not you Don. ;) On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Don Williams wrote: > Nothing I had a question directed if anyone had a known list of people > crashing servers an it turned into this. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 9, 2009, at 1:26 PM, Mark wrote: > >> 1. Unf

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

2009-12-09 Thread Don Williams
Nothing I had a question directed if anyone had a known list of people crashing servers an it turned into this. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 9, 2009, at 1:26 PM, Mark wrote: > 1. Unfortunately, I would imagine teens being a large part of the user > base. Nevermind teens, most players cuss in ge

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

2009-12-09 Thread Mark
1. Unfortunately, I would imagine teens being a large part of the user base. Nevermind teens, most players cuss in general regardless of age (if you're a nay-sayer, you'd be surprised). Banning for bad language is an over-reaction in my opinion and there are better ways to deal with the use of pro

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

2009-12-09 Thread Ook
That really isn't for you to decide now, is it? I run a PG-13 OP4 server, and my admins are pretty militant about enforcing that. It's working well and has for a while now, and there are plenty of teens that play there and respect the no profanity rules. Seriously, what percentage of players do

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

2009-12-09 Thread Jake Eisenman
Agreed. The only true "family-friendly" server I've ever played was eGO (CS:S). And they have an admin on like 24/7. Too much effort, imo. f0rkz wrote: > I mean... It is an M rated game. Teens shouldn't be playing in the > first place. > > On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 10:02 -0800, Ook wrote: > >> I

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

2009-12-09 Thread f0rkz
I mean... It is an M rated game. Teens shouldn't be playing in the first place. On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 10:02 -0800, Ook wrote: > I parse my server logs on a regular basis, and I can look up any player by > steam id, name, or IP and see all names and IPs they have used. You want to > ban people t

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

2009-12-09 Thread Ook
I parse my server logs on a regular basis, and I can look up any player by steam id, name, or IP and see all names and IPs they have used. You want to ban people that swear a lot? That is probably 90% of your user base. There are a lot of people out there that just can't control their mouths. -

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

2009-12-09 Thread Don Williams
Hey that's a great idea... sigh. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Gottlieb Sent: 2009-12-09 12:38 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day o

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

2009-12-09 Thread Matthew Gottlieb
I just ban all IP addresses. 0.0.0.0 DENY On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM, -xL-Trinidad wrote: > yea, Id like to have a big list of steam ids to import to my sourcebans. > >  - Original Message - >  From: w4rezz >  To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >  Sent: Wednesday, Dece

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

2009-12-09 Thread -xL-Trinidad
yea, Id like to have a big list of steam ids to import to my sourcebans. - Original Message - From: w4rezz To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

2009-12-09 Thread Phillip Vector
Yeah. Fuck a Fucking Fuck List. ;) On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:21 AM, f0rkz wrote: > Thats like finding a needle in a stack of needles... > > Don't think there is a comprehensive list for using the word fuck too > much out there. > > On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 18:17 +0100, w4rezz wrote: >> Does anyone ha

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

2009-12-09 Thread f0rkz
Thats like finding a needle in a stack of needles... Don't think there is a comprehensive list for using the word fuck too much out there. On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 18:17 +0100, w4rezz wrote: > Does anyone have a list of known people what use "fuck" too much? I > dont wanna use swear filter. > > 200

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

2009-12-09 Thread w4rezz
Does anyone have a list of known people what use "fuck" too much? I dont wanna use swear filter. 2009/12/9 Don Williams : > Does anyone have a running list of known people that have or tried to > perform this exploit steam id's IP addresses? > > -Original Message- > From: hlds-boun...@list

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

2009-12-09 Thread Don Williams
Does anyone have a running list of known people that have or tried to perform this exploit steam id's IP addresses? -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Maximilian L. Sent: 2009-12-08 11:49 AM To: Half-Life d