; Bjoern
>
> On 26 July 2017 at 13:31, john whelan wrote:
>
>> Lusaka is one of the few places in Africa that has boots on the ground,
>> many of which have backgrounds in GIS. I think there have been at least
>> twenty active local mappers mapping here so I'd be i
> In the same way a path may be a significant transportation route for a
village or small town but it cannot be highway=unclassified or
highway=tertiary because of the construction class that limits vehicles.
My thoughts have always been if the settlement has a metal roof then a
truck or cart mus
7 Bayview Road looks like a government owned building so accessibility is
good.
It has one small cafe, sandwich $8, that does not have free wifi but free
wifi is available within the building using a guest account but you'll need
a password.
Limited parking is available at 7 Bayview, $2 per hour
I seem to recall some one posting recently that following discussion at the
SOTM Africa in Uganda 2017 some changes had been made to the wiki.
Could some one highlight these.
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, but not connect to a
> settlement
> A path can function like an unclassified highway, but is restricted to
> foot traffic or 2 wheeled vehicles
> Highway = tertiary or secondary may be paved, but not by default.
>
> Let me know if you have questions or suggestions.
>
> E
cussions at the SOTM Africa.
>
> I invite you and the others to give us more details on the discussions and
> the modifications you made to the wiki page.
>
> regard
>
> Pierre
>
>
> --
> *De :* Vao Matua
> *À :* john whelan
> *Cc :* &
e reference guide for use in
>>>> carto-parties and mapathons and by new mappers.
>>>>
>>>> General changes or clarifications:
>>>> A residential road serves people who live adjacent to it.
>>>> An unclassified road connects set
Search for the number in http://tasks.hotosm.org/ the creator is at the
bottom.
Cheerio John
On 29 July 2017 at 12:01, Michael Reichert wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA256
>
> Hi,
>
> I would like to know who created a specific task on the Tasking
> Manager operated by OS
t; Tanganyika, where a lot of settlements only have access by vehicles via the
> Lake).
>
> Thank you.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Ukundji
>
>
> *From:* john whelan
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 29, 2017 1:38 AM
> *To:* hot@openstreetmap.org
> *Subject:* [HOT] Highway T
I do a lot of validation and in my opinion each settlement should have at
least one highway that connects to the outside world. That way its
routable. I might not draw in every path or track and small tracks leading
only to fields or the river don't really add a lot of value.
When traveling to a
Echoing Pierre's comments should we come up with better instructions? I
think the requirements for the NGOs are where do people live and how do we
get there?
Which suggests we want the settlements and a highway to reach them.
This is probably different to normal OSM which sometimes seems to be m
t; > thesis and stated:
>
> > “According to the observation data, two Kebeles namely Yemezegn and
>
> > Gibtsawit are inaccessable by vehicles and hence, do not have easy access
>
> > to public transport.”
>
> > And it seems as if he meant inaccesable by all (nor
oo email adresses?
>
>
> Pierre
>
>
> --
> *De :* john whelan
> *À :* AYTOUN RALPH
> *Cc :* "hot@openstreetmap.org"
> *Envoyé le :* lundi 31 juillet 2017 16h25
> *Objet :* Re: [HOT] landuse=residential and routing
>
> Both this message and the
Uganda has a fairly reasonable map at present. There have been some thirty
HOT projects in there and a few imports. There are some 3,000 untagged
ways to be cleaned up, I might have a look at them shortly. Jiggers sound
a bit like the Neglected Topical Diseases or NTDs which have been
identified
I've been giving some thought to the large number of highway=track
connecting settlements.
When I come across them and have the time I'll retag them normally to
unclassified but the idle thought would be is there a way to identify them
for inspection?
In JOSM I suspect we are limited to looking a
8.8925195, 0.569743
Some are labelled house 3 etc they have been mapped with maps.me in remote
villages and are tightly clustered together.
Could someone shed some light on these perhaps? Can we find a more
suitable way of tagging whatever it is is being mapped?
They don't appear to be mapped a
However if you want to get to a village to deliver some sort of aid and are
on foot or donkey etc. then I assume it would be acceptable to walk through
one village to get to another? If so link using path.
Cheerio John
On 6 August 2017 at 09:10, wrote:
> I think that the problem lies partly wit
Yes I know I'm a bit one tracked sometimes but quite by chance I stumbled
across a HOT mapper who had tagged 264 buildings Yess=Building
in Togo.
I have corrected these but they were done five months ago.
In the ideal world we would have enough validators but we don't so could
someone at least sc
s issue.
>
> It would be great if project owners trialled http://bjohas.de/mmstats/www/
> mmstats.html on their project hashtag - we'd be quite happy to tailor it
> (where possible given the currently existing APIs, i.e. red cross /
> overpass etc).
>
> Bjoern
>
> On 9
Mappers who are mapping directly in OSM maybe mapping at the same location
anyway.
The best advice on your project is upload every thirty minutes and refresh
every thirty minutes if you have the bandwidth. If you don't have the
bandwidth then cross your fingers.
Before when this has happened the
,-11.761254,40.
> 6584071,-0.9854812&RedCrossStats=true&queryResults=true&
> alwaysShowOPdetails=false&showAPIqueries=false&autorun=1
>
> Scroll past the query boxes, to see the output.
>
> In response to your question:
>
> On 9 August 2017 at 22:54, john whela
>`review_requested=yes`
So how would this be picked up?
Thanks John
On 26 August 2017 at 01:46, Bryan Housel wrote:
> *iD v2.4.0* was released August 25, 2017 and is now available for editing
> on openstreetmap.org
>
> 📣 *A few highlights from the release:*
>
> *NEW Esri World Imagery layer:*
At Statistics Canada they have a concept of respondent burden. Basically
it means you try to limit the number of questions you ask people whilst
still trying to get the answers in. Is this information available from
another survey?
May I suggest a more formal arrangement where a survey is organi
eys and share
> experiences and data between researchers. Also we could include a review
> proces before launching the questionaire, so e.g. questions can be
> internationalized (even if this is not a priority for the researcher
> themselves).
>
> 2017-09-04 22:20 GMT+02:00 john w
OK its not right it should at least be building=kitchen but what should it
be tagged as?
I'm looking at Malawi and there are a fair number of them.
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63866, 25330688
> Source: Bangula WV2 20140720; survey
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2015/jan/
> 30/malawi-floods-grim-legacy-death-destruction-devastation suggests a
> reason for mapping kitchens - food supplies, cooking facilities and cooking
> utensils were in short
>the Armenian government is worried that OSM will affect national security,
doesn’t fully trust crowd-sourced data
I think the statement is too broad. There are certainly parts of the US
government that is very comfortable with OSM, I seem to recall one US
government website that points people to
Ta for the correction, I wonder how many others misread it.
Cheerio John
On 12 September 2017 at 08:42, Ralf Stephan wrote:
> Armenian not American John
>
> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 2:24 PM john whelan wrote:
>
>> >the Armenian government is worried that OSM will affect
First welcome to Ottawa, its normally considered one of the safest Canadian
cities and its fairly relaxed so enjoy your stay. The weather forecast is
sunny with highs of 26 and lows of 12.
The last airport shuttle bus ran more than five years ago. Your choices
are either taxi, a rough estimate w
o study this. If any of you would like to
> discuss further I would be happy to at the Summit this week.
>
> Best,
> Colleen
>
> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 8:43 PM, john whelan
> wrote:
>
>> Ta for the correction, I wonder how many others misread it.
>>
>> Cheerio
It's not finished completely yet and I still have some validation to do but
in general its been well mapped even though many mappers are new to OSM and
although its medium priority considering the size of the project its gone
very quickly.
So why? What impact did the project manager have when the
Has it been implemented yet? I took a look at 3712 which should be a
fairly recent project but it looks much the same to me.
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For those of us who are not available at the designated time will there be
a recording of this?
Thanks John
On 16 Oct 2017 2:37 pm, "Gertrude Hope" wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> We will be having a webinar tomorrow on Tuesday from 5:00 PM – 6:00 PM
> CAT. HOT, Map Lesotho and OSM Southern Africa are o
http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/3712#
Validator role required no.
Does this mean this project doesn't need validating?
Judging by the mapping I saw when it was TM2 I would say it does.
Running the validator role I don't see how to bring up a link to the
mapper. Traditionally I'd look them up a
and whilst we are at it how do I select one tile recently done to
validate? Locking a block of tiles doesn't help, there is a limit to how
much data I can download at once.
Thanks John
On 18 October 2017 at 18:17, john whelan wrote:
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/3712#
>
>
I tend to overview a number of projects. If there has been any new mapping
then I validate it.
In TM2 I could just click on activity and it would show me the most
recently mapped ties. I haven't found that functionality in TM3. Where is
it please.
Thanks John
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In TM2 I could leave a comment to an individual mapper by name is that
functionality still available in TM3?
Sometimes I might leave comments to two different mappers who had mapped
for different reasons.
How do I do this in TM3?
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It appears to be a very manual method according to Blake's you tube
John
On 18 October 2017 at 18:22, john whelan wrote:
> and whilst we are at it how do I select one tile recently done to
> validate? Locking a block of tiles doesn't help, there is a limit to how
> much dat
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Typically when I validate I validate the most recently mapped tiles first
working on the principle that the faster feedback the more likely it is to
be effective.
If someone has already changed their habits telling them that two villages
two kilometers apart are probably not connected by a primary
Typically when I validate I validate the most recently mapped tiles first
working on the principle that the faster feedback the more likely it is to
be effective.
If someone has already changed their habits telling them that two villages
two kilometers apart are probably not connected by a primary
Guilty
John
On 21 October 2017 at 11:27, Frans Schutz wrote:
> I Suppport this
>
> Hopefully this will be fixed
>
> thanks, Frans
>
> ps John, are you the same John Whelan, active on the Tranz furums ? :-)
>
> Op 21-10-2017 om 17:06 schreef john whelan:
>
mappers feedback as fast as possible:
>
> https://youtu.be/BX8rzi2NqQY
>
> Let me know what you think of the workflow in the video if you would
> please.
>
> Respectfully,
> blake
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 11:06 AM, john whelan
> wrote:
> > Typic
you are asking for, but feedback
> from users was they were much more interested in getting to the newest
> mappers the fastest, which is what we ended up going with.
>
> Maybe it is easy to add back in, but that table is already pretty crowded.
>
> Regards,
> Blake
>
> On
gt; recently mapped task. I think it will get you the same thing
> essentially.
>
> regards
> blake
>
> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 3:48 PM, john whelan
> wrote:
> > Remember I'm basically lazy. I do two things when I validate. The
> first is
> > clean up the s
I would concur. Currently there is one tile validated by a new user that
I've picked up making a few mistakes and I'd dearly love to find which tile
they validated just to go over it again.
The other points I would agree with also.
Note to Scott at the bottom of the project page is a link to git
>Kind feedback and thank you? That is 50% of being a good validator,
sign them up! :)
You mean I can only clip them round the ear if I attend a Mapathon?
I really must go back and revalidate the 120 tiles one merry mapper has
done on a present project and thank him for each and every one. I seem
en validated recently or
> - have been invalidated recently or
> - are beginners or
> - have finished the tile just minutes ago or
> - ...?
>
> I really was waiting for this button, because now validators can focus on
> validating without browsing for tiles. I think I will
"Hi Johnwhelan I just validated your mapping on Task 14. Awesome work! Keep
mapping :)"
Once maybe but seven identical messages this morning other than the task
number? These are coming in daily from different people and I'm not happy
to receive them. Combined with these come to my email address
"John, this was an automated message after my validation, probably from the
Tasking manager. Not one I wrote ! I received similar messages from
validators on my tasks."
What is going on please. Am I generating these if so I'll stop validating.
Thanks John
On 29 October 2017
message when invalidating a task just use the @
> to make direct one to the right person.
>
> Eventually there will be an opt out for the validation messages.
>
> Cheers
> Blake
>
> On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 12:28 PM, john whelan
> wrote:
> > "John, this was an
ill be able to opt in and out of different
> types of emails/messages so you could choose to not receive messages
> or emails when your tasks get validated.
>
> Cheers
> Blake
>
> On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 1:06 PM, john whelan
> wrote:
> > I think I've validated more t
keep
up with the validation.
Cheerio John
On 29 October 2017 at 09:36, john whelan wrote:
> If you work by validating tiles on a project as they are done as I do so
> the tile is validated within a day or so and the project has 95% of the
> mapped tiles validated this isn't a probl
"Hi Johnwhelan I just validated your mapping on Task 14. Awesome work! Keep
mapping :)"
Apparently similar twee messages are being sent out as if they come from
me. These are unauthorised and I object to them.
One issue is validators getting impolite messages because they appear to
have sent the
's clear that the message is automated.
>
> -Scott
>
> On 29 October 2017 at 16:00, john whelan wrote:
>
>> "Hi Johnwhelan I just validated your mapping on Task 14. Awesome work!
>> Keep mapping :)"
>>
>> Apparently similar twee messages are
If you look at many parts of the map in Africa you can see squares of
activity. Often HOT projects but there are many many places where a
tertiary or higher classified highway is fifty meters or less from
connecting to another highway.
I seem to recall in Ghana they had a project to just map the
I think it is much more basic than that. We seem to have a number of
isolated islands of mapping that have highways but the islands are not
connected.
The islands often seem square in shape and normally quite well mapped but
they do not have connections to other parts of the map. I suspect they
walking papers or is it called field papers? Do it on paper would be the
suggestion.
I have used Vespucci before now it's usable but the screen size isn't nice.
Cheerio John
On 19 October 2017 at 04:45, Rupert Allan wrote:
> We are strategising about 'feedback-mapping' whilst doing 'non-camp
I'm currently adding tags to some 1,500 buildings in Malawi. Many are from
recent HOT projects. I dislike validating building projects since I never
really know what to do with buildings that are three times the size of the
image and not square either but if someone could just run JOSM occasional
task mgr which not allows to start validating from ID or when a mapper has
>> les than a minimum level.
>> Frans
>>
>> Op vr 10 nov. 2017 om 15:14 schreef john whelan
>>
>>> I'm currently adding tags to some 1,500 buildings in Malawi. Many are
>
I'm not a great person for maperthons, the last one I attended could have
gone a little smoother, there was a time delay before mapping. They were
mapping buildings and highways and although they were mapping for some time
no tiles were completed.
Recently there was another one locally which I dr
hatsApp groups.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rupert
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Bjoern Hassler
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear friends,
>>>>
>>>> Not in direct response to John, but on a tangent.
and I totally concur with what Ralph has said.
We asked people who were attending to install JAVA before they arrived and
I had josm-tested.jar available on a DVD to minimise the stress on the wifi
network. I had a USB DVD device with me and a bag of mice. The particular
maperthon I was at was a o
ut there who want to help complete the
>> building tool for iD (it is already started, just not completed)
>> please contact me directly :)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Blake
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 3:40 PM, john whelan
>> wrote:
>> &g
ow-up chat or community seminar where the ideas can be discussed
> further? Outcomes can then be added to http://learnosm.org/en/coo
> rdination/mapathon/ ?
>
> I'll send you all invites to the document off list. I'll leave the
> document so that no sign-in is required, in case you don&
erved by helping
>> improve iD.
>>
>> If there are any JS wizards out there who want to help complete the
>> building tool for iD (it is already started, just not completed)
>> please contact me directly :)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Blake
>>
>>
>>
>&
st to leave a comment explaining
> the problem as you see it.
>
> John, without weighing in on your main point (to which I'm generally
> sympathetic), in the cases you speak of where it's easier to map from
> scratch, why not just do so and use ctrl+shift+g to preserve histor
It sounds silly but I come across things being mapped twice often uploaded
with a fifteen minute gap.
If you're leading a maperthon could you please ask your mappers to upload
every fifteen minutes or so to reduce this.
If you're mapper the same suggestion applies.
Thanks John
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https://github.com/MikeTho16/JOSM-Scripts
SelectDuplicateBuildings.js
To Run:
* Install JOSM's Scripting Plugin
* Place above file in a convenient location on your system
* Click "Scripting" (on top menu bar)
* Click "Run"
* Click "..." but
p and use. I was
> imaging this kind of logic, but as a refinement to the JOSM validator
> itself. Under the "crossing buildings" warning list it could show the
> major/minor types of crossing buildings.
>
> Harry
>
>
> --
> *From:* john whelan
> *To:* "hot@op
Currently we seem to have a number of projects that are 95% mapped and 20%
validated requesting validation.
If you validate the project from the start you catch the errors mappers
make early on which means you get better quality work overall and less time
is spent reworking problem areas. Preventi
better if the validation process happens
> soon after the mapping, the mapper being able to take kind remarks and
> suggestions into account in order to improve the quality of his/her work.
> So we may assume that mapping work should be validated as soon as
> reasonably possible. I think I
>Recently I mapped a task where there were many non-squared buildings, some
roads crossing buildings and some other things
Because of the answer on one of my previous questions now I try to correct
all these mistakes but with some basic instructions they can hopefully be
avoided
it’s frustrating to
Mike has built a new faster version that handles larger numbers of
buildings better. Same link as the old one.
I tend to use it first to locate a cluster of these. Then I redownload the
area and use the to-do list to inspect each one.
Cheerio John
On 24 Nov 2017 5:47 pm, "john whelan&qu
These are just comments, if you have any ideas on how to catch a few more
errors let me know.
I've just been playing with the duplicate building tool and picked up over
a hundred buildings than had been mapped by a new mapper who made just four
edits. I don't think they completed any tiles.
As I
The project hasn't quite been archived although a request to do so was sent
to the project manager. I think the last tile was mapped and validated
this morning eastern standard time.
My understanding is TM3 will have a comment box added real soon now. I
think only the project manager currently h
Under TM3 there is a "Project Questions and Comments" tab next to the
validate where you can leave comments. I'd overlooked it.
Cheerio John
On 3 December 2017 at 14:24, Jean Marie Falisse wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have been working quite a while on this project. I made a pause for a
> couple of days
Perhaps it is just me but when I validate I also clean up so I get plenty
of mapping practice.
Cheerio John
On 6 Dec 2017 1:36 pm, "Bjoern Hassler" wrote:
> Dear friends,
>
> in supporting JOSM mapper with new skills (for more specialised tasks) I
> converged on the idea of "tailored practice p
I'm seeing some that are more than 10kms in length.
My feeling is this is not a service highway in the conventional sense.
Thoughts?
and if it is considered that 10 km is too long can we drop a guideline into
the wiki?
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> Claire
>
> Claire Halleux
> OpenStreetMap RDC
>
> https://www.facebook.com/OpenStreetMap.RDC
>
> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 8:33 PM, john whelan wrote:
>
>> I'm seeing some that are more than 10kms in length.
>>
>> My feeling is this is not a servi
Recently there has been some discussion of HOT's input into OpenStreetMap
in the OSMF mailing list.
Perhaps one of the problem areas is mapping that is less than ideal.
Basically HOT mainly maps highways, landuse=residential and buildings.
These shouldn't be difficult to map correctly.
Building
gt; and many folks/governments are still coming to grips with how it all works
> and how beneficial it can be. Is it perfect...not really, can it be
> improved...always. I think the HOT (and other) tasking managers and the ID
> editor are always improving with better task details, mor
that more objects have been mapped over a longer period
> and the problem compounds.
>
> · Correcting buildings when validating/shortage of validators? OK
> if this is unlikely to be the solution then we are back to better tools for
> initial digitising. Can you help with coding?
>
> ·
erence in terms of its area either.
>
>
>
> On 10 December 2017 at 00:47, john whelan wrote:
>
>> I have considerable coding experience but not in JAVA script which is
>> required for iD as I understand it and since it about two years to get up
>> to speed with a new pr
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This is exactly what I think would earn us some brownie points with OSM
provided we can point to some of the work that is independent of the main
NGOs.
Cheerio John
On 11 Dec 2017 1:33 pm, "Tyler Radford" wrote:
>
> *Tyler Radford*
> Executive Director
> tyler.radf...@hotosm.org
> @TylerSRadfor
Are we talking about Task Manger projects initiated and run by local
project managers or something else?
If we are talking about Task Manger projects then I suggest asking the
project manager(s) to do a write up on their experiences and see if this
can be brought to the attention of OSMWEEKLY. We
I accept what you say Ralph but the motorcycle project is being run by an
conventional European or North American NGO. It's organised mapping.
>The result will be a dedicated group in each country that will continue
the work, train more local people and expand the mapping community.
So is there
hings is easier than actually doing them, and I
> don't think my JS is good enough to do it.
>
>
> On 09/12/17 20:59, john whelan wrote:
>
>> Recently there has been some discussion of HOT's input into OpenStreetMap
>> in the OSMF mailing list.
>>
>>
ll this is a good HOT
> initiative
>
> I really appreciate this conversation and, personally, think it is a
> discussion that needs to be had... I'm glad it's resurfaced.
>
> Pete
>
> Ps. Sorry if the email is a bit rambling (it's late and I'm tired)!
&g
If you're using JOSM to validate just select all the buildings (search)
then select within nodes:4 then press q.
In TM2 you could do multiple tiles at once but TM3 places each tile on a
separate whatever.
Squaring them isn't to me quite so much of an issue as when you do it the
alignment etc may
and the most recently mapped tiles?
I'm lazy and I normally do more validation than mapping. If I give
feedback within 24 hours then mappers tend to correct their new mapping and
there is less work for me to do when validating.
If its been more than a week then my rule of thumb is there is littl
Anyone any experience about what works especially which browser works with
task manager and passes through the remote control stuff.
I am aware that IMAC or Windows is a religious choice and would prefer not
to get into any discussion of religion.
Thanks John
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ception for this certificate
>
> From this point on, all should work correctly. (I've seen issues on
> Webkit-based browsers - Safari, Chromium, Chrome - due to their different
> way of handling certificates, FF is easiest to setup)
>
> Cheers,
> Jan "Piskvor"
>but it's probably not clear to the average participant in the hot@ mailing
list whether they are automatically made a part of the HOT community.
I think there are two parts, those who subscribe to the current mailing
list and the "inner clique" who are invited to become a HOT member.
Realistical
In the UK at the end of the evening there is a well known phrase used in
places that serve alcohol.
"Time gentlemen please."
The post that set this off had an element of frustration and it was
unfortunate that the subject was a sensitive one at that time. With a bit
of good will it could have be
I'm looking at project 3890 which apparently was prepossessed by mapswipe.
I think the mapswipe overlay has now been removed but what I have noticed
is a number of highways in a straight line are not connected up. You get a
stretch of highway then nothing other than a faint mark on the imagery
fo
It was apparent on at least a dozen tiles with different mappers. One
classic one was a highway that ran top right to bottom left, four segments
of highway and three of no highway and that sort of matched the pattern on
the tile view in TM. Several places where the image was a bit darker the
segm
Could it be a different Dale Kunce?
Could the president of HOT confirm that this twitter account isn't his?
Many Thanks
Cheerio John
On 18 December 2017 at 17:18, nicolas chavent
wrote:
> Dear HOT US Inc, OSMF members and HOT mailing list subscribers,
>
> I randomly ran into this tweet of Dal
It's come up in the OSMand mailing list that these aren't shown at higher
zoom levels. Whilst mapping specifically just for the rendering system is
frowned on in this case it is supported by the wiki.
If it connects settlements then according to
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Afri
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