On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 21:09:14 -0700 mary george [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:Can anyone tell me where I can find clear explanations and difference between
the following:
:1. Home address
:2.Primary address
:3.Secondary address
POPs (for some values of clear).
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John,
Have you tried it under WINE? I have not myself worked with WINE, I just
know how to spell it.
Dave
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 10:42:58 +1000, Fenner, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
John,
Always enjoy your posts!
Have you considered buying VMWare for Linux and running (a licensed copy
of)
From: Binyamin Dissen
POPs (for some values of clear).
You sadistic bastard ... ;-)
Maybe the Extended Addressability Guide might be a better starting point.
Shane ...
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/02/2005
at 03:06 PM, Michael Cleary [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
What I am trying to test before having a crisis or outage is how TMON
and RMF can be used to easily identify 64-bit virtual users who are
impacting the system.
Impacting the system how? You need enough
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/02/2005
at 11:29 AM, Brad Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Here is a link anyone can add to their web pages, blogs, and emails
I would advise anyone in a position to assist to check that the funds
would actually go to the relief effort. There are a lot of criminals
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/03/2005
at 03:21 PM, Terry Sambrooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
The phrase alternate sysres is a part of my culture, or at least was
up to March 1999. The maintenance philosophy dictated that our main
system volumes operated in pairs. The active set and a maintenance
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/03/2005
at 09:17 AM, Clark Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Acutally as a disaster recovery specialist (business continuity)
pointed out, you don't need the HR running. All you need is a manual
way to cut advance checks based on paper records.
In a flood scenario,
In [EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 09/04/2005
at 12:00 AM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
ICF came out with either XA or SP1.3.x.
Much earlier; it came with DF/EF. Fortunately I missed out on *that*
horror show.
--
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ISO position; see
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/04/2005
at 04:42 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
It seems to me that sending the dump as an Email Attachment as
opposed to an FTP would solve this issue of having to monitor the
FTP.
No; it would almost certainly exceed size limits every step of
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
09/05/2005
at 01:59 PM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Is there such a beastie? I would really prefer to have a z/OS based,
or even Linux based version of this utility.
I'd love a Linux version.
--
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ISO
From: Knutson, Sam
One of the things Mark explained during his talk was that he took
everything
he normally reviews during a health checkup or performance review for a
customer and got them to put it in Health Checker. So running the free
health checker is getting the best practices review
In a recent note, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) said:
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 07:55:28 -0300
I'd love a Linux version.
Linux for what hardware platform? z/Series? Power PC? SPARC?
Other (specify)? I'd hope portable for all.
-- gil
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On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 06:47:27AM -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
In a recent note, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) said:
I'd love a Linux version.
Linux for what hardware platform? z/Series? Power PC? SPARC?
Other (specify)? I'd hope portable for all.
Heck, I'd settle for a Java version that
In a recent note, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) said:
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 07:47:24 -0300
In [log in to unmask], on 09/03/2005
at 10:47 PM, Ed Gould [log in to unmask] said:
IBM should provide, IMO, a error free (or almost) way of
transmitting dumps.
They had one: Info/Access.
Romain,
ALIAS is a binder control statement. The date on which the current instance
of an alias was created is thus almost always the date (and time) on which
the binder produced the program object that has that alias for its principal
(USS) or some (MVS) entry point.
These comments apply
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 07:52:46 -0500, Jay Maynard wrote:
I'd love a Linux version.
Linux for what hardware platform? z/Series? Power PC? SPARC?
Other (specify)? I'd hope portable for all.
Heck, I'd settle for a Java version that wasn't tied to the Windows
platform, IBM is not about to do
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 08:03:57AM -0500, Shane Ginnane wrote:
I tried the (Linux) reader a while back, and it went to hell in a handbasket
- didn't like the Blackdown JRE I had installed IIRC.
Ah, yes, I'd forgotten there was a Linux version. I brought up a Red Hat
system after discovering
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John,
Always enjoy your posts!
Have
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John,
Have you tried it under WINE? I
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 07:07:39AM -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
In a recent note, Jay Maynard said:
Heck, I'd settle for a Java version that wasn't tied to the Windows
platform, IBM is not about to do anything for Mac OS X specifically, but
Because OS X abandoned the Power PC? (In turn
A source RPM for Linux, then I could build the binaries on my RedHat laptop, my
Novell Linux Desktop workstation, my SLES9x server on the z/890 etc.
/Tom Kern
--- Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a recent note, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) said:
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 07:55:28
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 13:02:07 + john gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:ALIAS is a binder control statement. The date on which the current instance
:of an alias was created is thus almost always the date (and time) on which
:the binder produced the program object that has that alias for its
In a message dated 9/6/2005 7:01:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/02/2005
at 06:05 PM, Bill Fairchild [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
It all depends on the fine print in one's contract.
No. A contract term in violation of law is null and void.
John,
My reading of the original post related to catalog aliases, not load module
aliases. The only way I could think to track catalog alias creation would
be to process the SMF records cut by a catalog update. After the fact, I
don't see any indication of the creation date.
Wayne Driscoll
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 08:31:37AM -0500, McKown, John wrote:
Being the original questioner, I will say that anything I might write
for the Librarian functionality would probably be written in Perl.
Perl is fairly transportable. However, I am likely to end up using
modules from CPAN for
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Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 8:36 AM
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Subject: Re: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 08:31:37AM -0500,
In a recent note, Bill Fairchild said:
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 09:26:32 EDT
corruptible judiciary. In theory, there is no difference between theory and
practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]
This bears an erudition uncharacteristic of Yogi. Wikiquote:
Linkname: Jan L.
In a recent note, Jay Maynard said:
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 08:36:28 -0500
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 08:31:37AM -0500, McKown, John wrote:
Parsing up these files should be so simple that even I could write a
program to do it. But the legalities stymie me. I'm a coward, I guess.
No,
On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 11:10:55 -0500, Brian Peterson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please read the ++ HOLD DDDEF text in PTF UA07794.
snip
Jim, I hope you don't routinely ignore HOLDDATA when applying
maintenance! Even DOC holds sometimes contain actions (even
though they should not by definition).
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 08:50:16AM -0500, McKown, John wrote:
I guarantee that I will __not__ even consider writing it in APL (yes, I
have an APL on Linux) grin.
Really? I assume it uses an X window to display in. Is it freely available?
I was wanting something fairly portable. Perl exists on
In a message dated 9/6/2005 7:02:24 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Much earlier; it came with DF/EF. Fortunately I missed out on *that*
horror show.
Almost as bad as it's partner in crime SP 1.2! Think it lasted almost a week
before the damage assessments
In a message dated 9/6/2005 9:09:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In theory, there is no difference between theory and
practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]
This bears an erudition uncharacteristic of Yogi. Wikiquote:
Linkname: Jan L. A. van de
Mark, no I don't ignore HOLDDATA but I must admit I missed that one. My fine
toothed comb obviously needs to be renewed. I've actually already configured
and implemented a UNICODE image so I'll just apply the ptf and stop there.
Thanks
Jim McAlpine
On 9/6/05, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 08:50:16 -0500, McKown, John wrote:
You might take a look at Python, which includes a lot of the
things that you
need to go to CPAN to get for Perl in its standard distribution.
Well, I like Perl. I have also used Python in the past and think well of
it as well.
I'm with
Ed ...
Each project handled the merge of the GUIDE requirements in their own
fashion. I can only speak for MVS Storage requirements, since I was the
coordinator at that time. (And, even though I am Manager of Requirements
for SHARE right now, I can't answer what happened to all of the GUIDE
One tip for those trying batch FTP for the first time: make sure your ISPF EDIT
parms are set correctly (NUM OFF, I think) so that your line numbers do not
make gobbledygook of your commands. With that done, I have never had a problem
with batch FTP: it works fine and usually runs at a very
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
09/05/2005
at 09:09 PM, mary george [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Can anyone tell me where I can find clear explanations and difference
between the following:
Any unit of work is associated with an address space called the home
address space. MVS initially gives a unit of
DB2 open PK10031 and close it with the following comment:
snip
This apar is being closed USE ( user error ). Users should
not be using MVS service aid information as a basis for direct
commands against storage. The actual reporting of DB2 storage
as 'orphaned' is considered an inaccuracy
Like toss another shrimp on the bar-b... What's the @#$% a shrimp? Sound
likes Hoges was comin' the raw prawn in more ways than one.
From: Eric Bielefeld
I love your Australian sayings. Is this one common? I've never heard
it before.
Bills response is close enough to be usable -
However, I have seen considerable discussion over the last couple of years
in which a desire for a version for Linux has been mentioned.
So far, I have observed no response out of IBM.
...
Has anybody made a request?
IBM doesn't usually troll the various discussion lists for requirements.
-teD
If you have different aliases for different applications/projects, it
would be a reference when the application was first set up. That is of
course assuming you have not built new mastercats and such.
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Hi Greg,
Is there a reason this cannot be tied to a DB2 address space that will clean
it up when it terminates?
The APAR even said
This occurs because the MVS service
aid tracking is done based on the HOME ASID at the time of the
GETMAIN. In actuality, the storage gotten is being tracked
Tnx Greg, I always just ask for a FIN APAR.
*System owned is much better then Batch Job owner gone.
Roland
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Paul Gilmartin wrote:
I don't understand the architecture here. Is SNA a layer under NJE?
How about VTAM?
SNA is indeed a lower layer than NJE. VTAM is a subsystem that
implements SNA (e.g., LU2, LU6.2) and non-SNA (e.g., LU0) under z/OS,
z/VM, and z/VSE -- not a protocol.
Why has
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 10:47:36AM -0700, Edward E. Jaffe wrote:
Why has TCP/IP so surpassed SNA?
SNA is/was proprietary while TCP/IP is/was open.
This is half of it. The other half is that SNA is designed for a world where
computing power is concentrated in a few central hosts, while TCP/IP is
ICF came out with either XA or SP1.3.x.
Much earlier; it came with DF/EF. Fortunately I missed out on *that*
horror show.
...
I remember it was between NOV81 AUG84.
Because that was my first job as a perf/cap analyst, and we had to 'evaluate'
the effect of changing.
Our departmental high level
I have a set of 5 tapes containing SMF data. Unfortuantely, tape 4 is
unreadable. So, I want to take the readable information from tapes
1,2,3, and 5 and use it to create another set of tapes. I am using
DFSORT with the OPTION SPANINC=RC0 and listing the volumes in the
VOL=SER= for SORTIN. I get
John McKown wrote on 09/06/2005 11:17:11 AM:
I have a set of 5 tapes containing SMF data. Unfortuantely, tape 4 is
unreadable. So, I want to take the readable information from tapes
1,2,3, and 5 and use it to create another set of tapes. I am using
DFSORT with the OPTION SPANINC=RC0 and
Hello,
We are new to LPARs, HSMplex, and GRS, and I have some questions.
First, some background: We will be running z/OS 1.6 in one LPAR and z/OS.e
1.6 in a second LPAR. We will be running each system in MONOPLEX mode, we
will not be sharing the master catalogs, and running a GRS Ring. Our
I have a need to encrypt the data that we will be sending out into the
www world. I was wondering what other folks had done to accomplish this.
Looking for ideas
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Jay Maynard wrote:
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 10:47:36AM -0700, Edward E. Jaffe wrote:
Why has TCP/IP so surpassed SNA?
SNA is/was proprietary while TCP/IP is/was open.
This is half of it. The other half is that SNA is designed for a world where
computing power is concentrated
Try PGP from Mcafee. We have it and it works with any platform
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To:
Thanks, Sam. I have run the Health Checker.
One of the exceptions it detects is having PATHOUTs defined without an
associated CLASS definition.
As explained in my first posting, we have 3 CLASSDEFs with GROUP(UNDESIG)
defined.
In the RMF XCF activity report I can see requests delivered in all
Can anyone tell me where I can find clear explanations and difference
between the following:
1. Home address
2.Primary address
3.Secondary address
Each address space is identified by a 16 bit number called the address
space identifier (ASID.) It is used by hardware during the translation
Can anyone tell me where I can find clear explanations and difference
between the following:
1. Home address
2.Primary address
3.Secondary address
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 14:32:31 -0500, Craddock, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
a very good explanation which I snipped
In addition to what
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 14:32:31 -0500 Craddock, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
:In S/370 and later, the address space where the instructions are being
:fetched from (executed) is known as the PRIMARY address space (PASN.)
:The architecture originally allowed for data movement between the
:PRIMARY
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 11:27:12PM +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
If I recall correctly, instruction fetch in secondary mode depended on the CPU
model.
Some would instruction fetch from the primary address space and others would
fetch from the secondary.
IBM manuals stated that code running
Jay said;
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 11:27:12PM +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
If I recall correctly, instruction fetch in secondary mode depended
on
the CPU
model.
Some would instruction fetch from the primary address space and
others
would
fetch from the secondary.
IBM manuals stated
Tnx Greg, I always just ask for a FIN APAR.
*System owned is much better then Batch Job owner gone.
FIN must *only* be used for an APAR which IBM is prepared to ship the code
via service. Any customer may request a new APAR be opened to ship the fix
for a FIN APAR.
The only accepable closing
Craddock, Chris wrote:
Can anyone tell me where I can find clear explanations and difference
between the following:
1.Home address
2.Primary address
3.Secondary address
Each address space is identified by a 16 bit number called the address
space identifier (ASID.) It is used by
Is there a reason this cannot be tied to a DB2 address space that will
clean
it up when it terminates?
snip
Some of the global storage can be obtained *before* switching to a DB2 owned
address space so there is no way to show it owned by DB2 as would be
desired. The same issue exists for MQ
Nah.. Not convinced..!
RACF profiles? ACF/2 rules? Oh and erm, CHANGE CONTROL documentation..!!!??
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Gray, Larry - Larry A
Sent: Tue 6/9/05 17:41
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: When was an alias [been]
Hi all,
Does anyone know the CPU assumption of HSM level1/2 migration? If
possible can anyone provide some data to show this?
Thanks!
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On Sep 6, 2005, at 8:02 AM, john gilmore wrote:
Romain,
ALIAS is a binder control statement. The date on which the current
instance of an alias was created is thus almost always the date (and
time) on which the binder produced the program object that has that
alias for its principal (USS)
On Sep 6, 2005, at 2:32 PM, Craddock, Chris wrote:
-SNIP-
It's more complex than that, but close enough for a 50,000' view. It's
all written down in POPs, but if you don't have much of an internals
background it may as well be written in Latin.
CC
At 07:42 -0300 on 09/06/2005, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote about
Re: DUMP Datasets and SMS:
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/04/2005
at 04:42 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
It seems to me that sending the dump as an Email Attachment as
opposed to an FTP would solve this
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