Re: MVCIN instruction

2005-10-13 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 13:36 -0500 on 10/11/2005, Glenn Miller wrote about Re: MVCIN instruction: However, I saw a creative way to use 2 instructions that would reverse the data in the read buffer. Remember this code was originally written for a S/360 Model 30 machine. Anyone have a guess what these instructions

Re: Anyone Still Using Static Mode APF ?

2005-10-13 Thread DOMINGUEZ MARTIN, ANGEL LUIS
We use intentionally STATIC. In case we need, wich happens rarely due to our weekly IPL's, we change to DYNAMIC previosly of changes. We have not reconsidered to change to dynamic. angel luis dominguez bbva spain -Mensaje original- De: Peter

Re: Dynamic change LOGCLS from IEASYSXX?

2005-10-13 Thread DOMINGUEZ MARTIN, ANGEL LUIS
Only as a suggestion.. why not moving to logger/operlog and get rid off syslog? It was introduced ten years ago and in any moment IBM could force us to change. If you want, take a look at 513 CBT file. angel luis dominguez bbva - spain PD:

Re: MVCIN instruction

2005-10-13 Thread Randy Hudson
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IIRC the model 30 1419 were exceeding time dependent you had x many micro seconds to make the decision to tell the 1419 to direct the document to the correct hopper. IIRC TR was one of the slower instructions on the mod

Re: IAZXJSAB CREATE - is it documented anywhere?

2005-10-13 Thread Walt Farrell
On 10/12/2005 8:37 PM, Jay Maynard wrote: The MVS Using the Subsystem Interface book says that you can change the job name associated with a job by using the IAZXJSAB CREATE macro. Unfortunately, I'm not having any success at all trying it. The only form of the macro that's documented at all is

Re: Anyone Still Using Static Mode APF ?

2005-10-13 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of DOMINGUEZ MARTIN, ANGEL LUIS We use intentionally STATIC. In case we need, wich happens rarely due to our weekly IPL's, we change to DYNAMIC previosly of changes. We have not reconsidered to

Re: IAZXJSAB CREATE - is it documented anywhere?

2005-10-13 Thread Jay Maynard
On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 07:24:04AM -0400, Walt Farrell wrote: On 10/12/2005 8:37 PM, Jay Maynard wrote: The MVS Using the Subsystem Interface book says that you can change the job name associated with a job by using the IAZXJSAB CREATE macro. Unfortunately, I'm not having any success at all

z/OS 1.7 and beyond

2005-10-13 Thread Duane Weaver
Someone just asked about last order date for z/OS 1.7, which just went GA. For those of you who did not attend SHARE, it was announced that IBM is now on a version a year schedule. IBM is planning 1.8 for fall of 2006, and so on. Duane

Re: Disaster recovery question - 3952 drives in an ATL.

2005-10-13 Thread Mike Wood
Franz, In a real disaster you cannot rely on getting ANY tapes, whether logical or stacked from a VTS. Only data which you have exported or copied to physical tapes at another site is available; I do hope you dont plan on being able to step back inside the 3494 and pick up the important stacked

Re: MVCIN instruction

2005-10-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Randy Hudson said: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 05:00:50 -0400 The mod 30 used core memory. Because a memory read was destructive, the memory hardware would automatically rewrite data after reading it, raising a busy flag for the bank of ferrite cores including that bit

Re: Dynamic change LOGCLS from IEASYSXX?

2005-10-13 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
DOMINGUEZ MARTIN, ANGEL LUIS wrote: Only as a suggestion.. why not moving to logger/operlog and get rid off syslog? It was introduced ten years ago and in any moment IBM could force us to change. That won't happen. There are a few Operlog show stoppers IBM would need

Creating dynamic 3270 screen size definitions for increased productivity TD102151

2005-10-13 Thread Knutson, Sam
It's not new news around IBM-MAIN but I stumbled on this note in the WSC library which says the same thing Ed has said for many years about letting go of the real 3270 screen geometries. It might be useful to help convince others in your organization that this is really a good idea. Thanks, Sam

Re: IAZXJSAB CREATE - is it documented anywhere?

2005-10-13 Thread Jay Maynard
On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 10:01:17AM -0400, Walt Farrell wrote: Another by the way in response to your original question about how you can change the jobname for your dynamically-allocated SYSOUT file. If you can use z/OS UNIX functions, you could consider setting the _bpx_jobname

Customized Offerings Driver

2005-10-13 Thread George Bly
Hi I just looked at installing Z/OS 1.7. The PTF's I would nee to put on my Z/OS 1.4 system are extensive but I would need to go through a full system test to put on the maintenance. I get one IPL per year so I'd like to find a way around it. Has any one used or familiar

Re: Customized Offerings Driver

2005-10-13 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi George, I have to ask. Is that one planned IPL per year? Do you have only one system? Have you actually been able to hold to that over time? Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO Performance and Availability Management mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Customized Offerings Driver

2005-10-13 Thread John Eells
George Bly wrote: snip Has any one used or familiar with the Customized Offerings Driver product 5655-M12. Questions are: Is it free?? It's a no-additional-charge offering. (Entitled by z/OS license.) Is it easy to install?? DFSMSdss RESTORE. Is it easy to use?? It requires a

Re: MVCIN instruction

2005-10-13 Thread Bruce Black
I wonder if the CCW chain could be processed fast enough that much of the reversing could be done with the Chain Data flag and appropriate destination addresses. Were you thinking of a series of data-chained 1-byte reads to put the data in the right order? Doubtful. On unbuffered tape,

Re: Customized Offerings Driver

2005-10-13 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Bly Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 11:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Customized Offerings Driver Hi I just looked at installing Z/OS 1.7. The PTF's

Re: FTP continuation character

2005-10-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Charles Mills said: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Oct 13 10:47:30 2005 Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:42:00 -0700 Interesting information. Thanks. How does the '+' continuation character mentioned earlier in this thread interact with line numbers? (I avoid line numbers,

Re: Customized Offerings Driver

2005-10-13 Thread George Bly
We get 1 planned IPL per year. Last IPL Jan 30 2005. The maintenance is listed in the server pac requirements for the driving system. I may just try it without the maint. I have a simple configuration. No sysplex, no sharing, no coexistence so I may just give it a try. George

Re: Customized Offerings Driver

2005-10-13 Thread John Eells
McKown, John wrote: I'm a bit confused. Are you saying that you need z/OS 1.4 maintenance just to install z/OS 1.7? That sounds very strange to me. Most of the time, any maintenance required is to tolerate or co-exist so that you can share things like catalogs. I simply cannot imagine needing

Re: FTP continuation character

2005-10-13 Thread Charles Mills
I think FTP is pretty unhappy with line numbers in general. Tends to want to make them into operands of the command. I think I recall (is this correct?) that the plus has to be the last thing on the line, and I'm 99% certain that if so, a sequence number would be the last thing, not the plus sign.

Multiple LPARs / one user id

2005-10-13 Thread Goings, Rob
Greetings. We're a single iron shop running Base Sysplex with three LPARs under Z/OS 1.4 I would like to have the ability to log onto each LPAR using the same User id. If anyone has this configuration, could you give me a brief run down of how to do it? Thanks. Rob R. Goings Archer

Re: Multiple LPARs / one user id

2005-10-13 Thread Ernie Takeuchi
Hi Rob, You need to follow the following steps in allowing this to happen. First you need to allow for ISPF temp files to be allocated under different names in each lpar which would logically be the sysname. You can accomplish this by changing the ISPF global table and creating a local table

Re: Multiple LPARs / one user id

2005-10-13 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Goings, Rob Greetings. We're a single iron shop running Base Sysplex with three LPARs under Z/OS 1.4 I would like to have the ability to log onto each LPAR using the same User id. If anyone has this

Re: did anyone know about NN-NN of one sysplex definition?

2005-10-13 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 08:42:47 -0500, Wayne luo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...These are two NNs exist in in same one sysplex,I tried to logon to another NN's tso or any other vtam application from one NN but failed,sensecode is 08060023,These two NNs communitcate each other with XCF,We can find these

DCB attributes for USS file

2005-10-13 Thread Johnson, William
How can we determine DCB attributes for a USS file? We're trying to do an IEBGENER (SYNCSORT's flavor) from a particular path and getting IEB317I JOB TERMINATED, NO INPUT BLKSIZE/LRECL because we don't know what values to use for RECFM, LRECL, BLKSIZE. I assume it's not the same as the HFS which

Re: DCB attributes for USS file

2005-10-13 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johnson, William Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 2:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: DCB attributes for USS file How can we determine DCB attributes for a USS file? We're

Re: DCB attributes for USS file

2005-10-13 Thread Charles Mills
Won't RECFM=U,LRECL=arbitrary_fairly_large_guess work for most purposes, including IEBGENER? Of course, if you're copying it to a traditional MVS file then for the output file you are going to have to deal with the traditional issues of dataset allocation, the associated DCB attributes, and

Re: DCB attributes for USS file

2005-10-13 Thread Low, David
How can we determine DCB attributes for a USS file? We're trying to do an IEBGENER (SYNCSORT's flavor) from a particular path and getting IEB317I JOB TERMINATED, NO INPUT BLKSIZE/LRECL because we don't know what values to use for RECFM, LRECL, BLKSIZE. I assume it's not the same as the

Re: Multiple LPARs / one user id

2005-10-13 Thread Mark Steely
I don't do anything special. I use the same logon proc and userid. The RACF database is shared among LPAR and so is the logon proc. The only problem I run into is the LOG gets allocated by one LPAR the other LPAR receives an error message that the session will not have logging active. I have heard

Re: DCB attributes for USS file

2005-10-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, McKown, John said: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 14:25:36 -0500 -Original Message- [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Johnson, William Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 2:17 PM How can we determine DCB attributes for a USS file? We're trying to do

Re: Multiple LPARs / one user id

2005-10-13 Thread Alan C. Field
Search the archives. Mark Zelden as a 3 page description of what you need to do which is excellent. I just used his guidlines to get it set up here. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: Multiple LPARs / one user id

2005-10-13 Thread Natarajan Mohan
You could change the ISPF temporary dataset qualifiers also in similar fashion to prevent those error messages about log. Use the exec ISPCCONF, this exec is present in ISPCLIB, to create ISPF Configuration module. The ISPF Configuration module should be placed in ISPLLIB of TSO LOGON. Thanks Nat

Product availability on 3592

2005-10-13 Thread Johnston, Robert E
Hello, We recently converted to virtual tape and 3592. Now mgt is itching to get the 3480s off the floor. My question is, do vendors (IBM and CA mostly) offer products on 3592 format or are we going to have problems if we get rid of the 3480 drives and try to order new software? I know there are

Re: Product availability on 3592

2005-10-13 Thread Alan C. Field
I went to IBM link, SRD and found these delivery options: ELEC - Electronic delivery INET - Delivery to an internet server 1600 - Tape 1600 6250 - Tape 6250 3480 - Cartridge 3480 3590 - IBM Magstar Tape Subsystem C4MM - 4 millimeter cartridge

Re: Product availability on 3592

2005-10-13 Thread Porowski, Ken
Considering the cost of a 3592 cartridge I would be surprised if many vendors offer it as an option. What I do see a lot more of is CD's and electronic transfer. Depending on local Tax laws an electronic transfer (i.e. NO physical media) may exempt you from sales tax. Ken Porowski AVP Systems

Re: Geoplex performance considerations

2005-10-13 Thread Clark Lowery
Bob, Thanks - you're right that we had to rely on our personal contacts - IBM's customer references, and Gartner - those were pretty much the sources we had. What suprised me was that IBM could not provide us with any contacts for fully duplexed GDPS users, but that may be peculiar to what it is

Re: Product availability on 3592

2005-10-13 Thread ibm-main
My major customer recently went through similar - but with STK. Exacerbates the issue. All the old stand-alone kit came off support, and was returned to the vendor. But 2 new (as in refurb'd) drives were purchased to handle 3480/90 carts - these are located at the main site (only), where real live

Re: Geoplex performance considerations

2005-10-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
What suprised me was that IBM could not provide us with any contacts for fully duplexed GDPS users, but that may be peculiar to what it is we want to do ... What do you want to do? Before I got downsized, I worked for IGS, Canada; we were fully duplexed. If I can answer your questions without

Re: Multiple LPARs / one user id

2005-10-13 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 13:29:58 -0500, Goings, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings. We're a single iron shop running Base Sysplex with three LPARs under Z/OS 1.4 I would like to have the ability to log onto each LPAR using the same User id. If anyone has this configuration, could you give me a

Re: Multiple LPARs / one user id

2005-10-13 Thread Brian Peterson
I pretty much followed Mark Zeldon's excellent advice at http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html (Under heading Quick Index, click on JOBs/Doc, and then look for $SNGLTSO.TXT). In particular, his document http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsfiles/$sngltso.txt does a great job hilighting the

Re: Systems Programmer Position

2005-10-13 Thread Gary Green
Where was this 20 years ago when I -wanted- to move to Alaska... - Original Message - From: Gary Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 5:55 PM Subject: Systems Programmer Position The following is posted

Re: MVCIN instruction

2005-10-13 Thread Ed Gould
On Oct 13, 2005, at 4:00 AM, Randy Hudson wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- SNIP-- I wonder if the CCW chain could be processed fast enough that much of the reversing could be done with

Re: MVCIN instruction

2005-10-13 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
Ed Gould wrote: Randy, I still remember in those days the POPS for each model had the micro seconds each instruction took. My memory is sketchy and after the document was read you had X (I don't remember) many microseconds to make a decision as to which bin you could send the document

SHARE videos feedback

2005-10-13 Thread Thomas Conley
Here are feedback notes about the SHARE videos, recorded live at SHARE in Boston, that are posted on www.ispw.ca/share . Some notes include comments about how much people say they would be willing to pay if this became a serious offering. Please note - cost has not been decided. This is a