Re: Cancel a job after 10 min runtime

2006-04-13 Thread R.S.
Ted MacNEIL wrote: Why would you want to cancel after 10 wall clock minutes? If you're like most shops, Batch is low priority. It only soaks up CPU that nobody else wants. And, if there is none available, it doesn't execute. So, at lightly loaded times a job could use tons of CPU before 10 minu

Anquish of JCL (Was: Migrating me from linux/bsd to zOS) - Jol - a JCL Replacement Language

2006-04-13 Thread Clem Clarke
Charles Mills wrote: Gee, how hard could it be to write COPY 'DSN1' 'DSN2' in Rexx? I suppose the "entire PDS" would be a little tricky. I'd leave out the bug-prone numbering options. What does LRECL/RECFM do? Let you re-block if you are creating an entire dataset? Way back in 1969, I wrot

Re: Moving BACK to the mainframe

2006-04-13 Thread Mike Baldwin
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:46:22 -0600, Timothy Sipples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I'll have to officially call this a "rumor" and only specify the general >parameters, but I'll see what I can say. That is a well-crafted description, Timothy. I need to tread lightly too, but I heard a remarkably

Re: Of job schedulers and high ISV costs ...

2006-04-13 Thread Timothy Sipples
>>I think IBM's package is OPC. >It's under the Tivoli umbrella. Actually it's Tivoli Workload Scheduler (TWS) for z/OS. Tivoli Operations Planning and Control (OPC) was withdrawn in 2001, replaced with TWS. http://www.ibm.com/software/tivoli/products/scheduler-zos/ With respect to competition

Re: Mainframe near history (IBM 3380 and 3880 docs)

2006-04-13 Thread Shane
On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 20:21 -0400, William Donzelli wrote: > This mainframe "near history" is just as important as the stuff from the > punch card days. So this is the point of this soapbox rant - a request to > you people in the industry, some that used these systems. If you have > items from the

Re: Mainframe & Evil

2006-04-13 Thread Ed Gould
Dave I understand the reason for IBM helping out with 3rd party costs , but now you have the situation that the IBM software costs are the biggest, who do we scare them with ?. Regards Gerard -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D

Re: Of job schedulers and high ISV costs ...

2006-04-13 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 4/13/2006 5:25:42 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Time to look into the IBM scheduler package. >> Don't know who even owns it now. ASG got BETA42 and ZEKE,ZEB,ZARA maybe they rolled them up. BETA42 was descindent of Smart Schedular from Pecan.

Re: Anquish of JCL (Was: Migrating me from linux/bsd to zOS)

2006-04-13 Thread Wade Curry
McKown, John said: >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Tsujimoto >> >> On a few of our unix boxes, we actually have ISPF installed for a few >> crippled mainframers who have to do work on unix. Personally, I feel >>

Re: Looking for binary to character translation utility

2006-04-13 Thread Arthur T.
On 13 Apr 2006 17:21:51 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a recent note, Arthur T. said: Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:27:30 -0400 However, if you *really* want a program to make a file you can copy-and-paste, you could try

Re: Anquish of JCL (Was: Migrating me from linux/bsd to zOS)

2006-04-13 Thread Wade Curry
R.S. said: > Darren Evans-Young wrote: > [...] >> vi used to be the only editor included on standard Unix installations. >> Now, the vendors include other editors. However, if you have to boot from >> the CD to recover a system in single user mode, vi is usually the only >> editor available. You be

Re: Moving BACK to the mainframe

2006-04-13 Thread Dave Salt
Now THAT really is a heart warming story. After I've printed it I need to find a frame to put it in. Thanks for sharing it! Dave Salt SimpList(tm) - The easiest, most powerful way to surf a mainframe! http://www.mackinney.com/products/SIM/simplist.htm From: Brian Westerman <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Anquish of JCL (Was: Migrating me from linux/bsd to zOS)

2006-04-13 Thread Wade Curry
Ted MacNEIL said: >>However it's reason >>d'etre is indicated by its name, short for catenate. It's purpose is to take multiple files and catenate all the input into a single output stream. > > And, catenate is intuitive? To a certain degree it is. Just like it's obvious to you that when you inc

Re: Moving BACK to the mainframe

2006-04-13 Thread Brian Westerman
I have been reading this string with a lot of interest. For the past 10 years or so, the company I work for has made a LOT of money moving people "BACK to the mainframe" after their failed attempts to migrate things to a "client/server" and in a some of cases to some other even lesser platforms.

Re: Job scheduling

2006-04-13 Thread Brian Westerman
Hi, You could use CommandZ for this, but it's probably not necessary, and you would have to authorize the ID that submitted them to be able to issue those commands, which is a lot of extra work. I think all that is necessary is the RC checking that you peformed in your sample for the last step wh

Mainframe near history (IBM 3380 and 3880 docs)

2006-04-13 Thread William Donzelli
> I just threw out the 3380 and 3390 books. I have not climbed on my soapbox lately, but now seems like a good time. One of the more interesting aspects of history that has popped up quickly like a mushroom is that of computers and data processing. 10 or 15 years ago, there were only a few indivi

Re: Abend code in AUTOOPER in IPL

2006-04-13 Thread Jorge Arueira Campos
Ulrich The AUTOOPER not fail during IPL, I see the msg in syslog after the system up. AUTOOPER run without problem after IPL.This problem can be a logic error ??? Regards Jorge Arueira Campos CAIXA ECONOMICA FEDERAL - OSASCO - SP - BRAZIL On 4/13/06, Ulrich Krueger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: Of job schedulers and high ISV costs ...

2006-04-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>I think IBM's package is OPC. It's under the Tivoli umbrella. - -teD O-KAY! BLUE! JAYS! Let's PLAY! BALL! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET

Re: CA buys Cybermation

2006-04-13 Thread Russell Witt
Tom, Before reacting, wait and see. There have been a lot of changes within CA in the past year since John Swainson took over the helm. At first, there were the changes at the senior executive level; but now we are seeing really first-rate mainframe experienced architects and strategists getting h

Re: Kudos to IBM's promotion

2006-04-13 Thread Dave Salt
problem still exists. With little or no exposure to mainframes they are not easily understand anything being done that is actually interesting. There is lots of boring grunt-work to give them, but that won't make them want to stay. Which is why you have to try to give them interesting things

Re: Looking for binary to character translation utility

2006-04-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Arthur T. said: > Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:27:30 -0400 > > However, if you *really* want a program to make a > file you can copy-and-paste, you could try looking for > source for uuencode and uudecode. > ??? And why would he need the source when the executables a

Re: Of job schedulers and high ISV costs ...

2006-04-13 Thread Tom Savor
I think IBM's package is OPC. I use it at the client that i'm supporting..I love it. I use it almost everyday. It's VERY easy to use and operate. Don't know the price. Tom Savor Fidelity National Information Services 3905 Brookside Parkway Alpharetta, GA 30022 Phone: 770-576-1167 cell:

Re: z/OS Apache?

2006-04-13 Thread Timothy Sipples
You know, I think I got some bad information (or at least early, speculative information), so please ignore my now apparently very random speculation re: Apache. The only thing I'm sure about is what it says in the announcement letter. As far as I can tell just about everything else is still

Re: COBOL2 Issues

2006-04-13 Thread David DeBervec
Harold, I'm trying to find and compile/assemble the all the source that makes up the main load module. I will incorporate the suggestions that you and others have made. Thanks for bearing with me in this endeavor because its been a while since I've have to deal with this sort of this. Thanks

Re: What's the linkage editor really wants?

2006-04-13 Thread Steve Comstock
Eric Bielefeld wrote: Steve, Didn't you say in the last week or so that you haven't taught a class for ages, and you were giving up? At least that's the impression I got (But then my memory is getting worse than the old core storage). So you are still teaching and developing courses? Eric Bie

Re: Looking for binary to character translation utility

2006-04-13 Thread Tony Harminc
Are you sure the RD server is configured to disallow remote device access? When you fire up Remote Desktop from MP to RD, look for a Local Resources tab. Try sharing your local (MP) drives to RD. Certainly if The Client is security conscious, this will be turned off (and will proably fail silen

Re: Of job schedulers and high ISV costs ...

2006-04-13 Thread Robert Justice
well, that's certainly disappointing. so, people get stuck with ca-7 and datacom. datacom, the database of choice of large corporations like enron and worldcom. Time to look into the IBM scheduler package. - Original Message - From: "Jeffrey Deaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgrou

Re: Abend code in AUTOOPER in IPL

2006-04-13 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Jorge, does AUTOOPER abend during the IPL and fail to come up? Or is it up and running, and you only get a failure if you do a certain AUTOOPER command? When you run a started task under "SUB=MSTR", this task can not allocate a SYSOUT dataset to be spooled to JES2. That's what gives you the S013 a

Re: COBOL2 Issues

2006-04-13 Thread Harold Zbiegien
Ok instruction stream, my short hand balr 14,15 L 12,9/E8 STH 14 4/8 mvc 3 3/004 8/208 mvc 1 3/02a 8/1e2 but if you look at register 3, 00E34040, that value looks bogus. according to abendaid, R3 00E34040 14,893,120 A(ISPSUBX ) + 1040 I don't remember if this was a batch program, bu

Re: IBM 3380 and 3880 maintenance docs needed

2006-04-13 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Brian, I just threw out the 3380 and 3390 books. There was a set of books for each. I know it didn't have any of the CE manuals. I went through our whole MVS library, and got rid of almost everything (4 cabinets worth). Most of the books were from ESA 4.3 through OS/390 2.8, since 2.8 was our

Re: Kudos to IBM's promotion

2006-04-13 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 4/13/2006 3:35:59 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: problem still exists. With little or no exposure to mainframes they are not easily understand anything being done that is actually interesting. There is lots of boring grunt-work to give them, but th

Re: here we go again with USS maint

2006-04-13 Thread Bill Planer
If I understand what you are asking, then the answer is no. You use the TSO mount command to mount your root clone HFS data set at moutpoint /Service No IPL needed. After you are done you can unmount it with another TSO command. Regards, Bill "John Norgauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in messag

Re: What's the linkage editor really wants?

2006-04-13 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Steve, Didn't you say in the last week or so that you haven't taught a class for ages, and you were giving up? At least that's the impression I got (But then my memory is getting worse than the old core storage). So you are still teaching and developing courses? Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Progr

Re: Abend code in AUTOOPER in IPL

2006-04-13 Thread Jorge Arueira Campos
IEF196I IEC141I 013-C8,IGG0193K,AUTOOPER,AUTOOPER,SYS3 IEC141I 013-C8,IGG0193K,AUTOOPER,AUTOOPER,SYS3 The msg of IBM manual is: Explanation: The error occurred during processing of an OPEN macro. This message is accompanied by system completion code 013 with the return code. C8T

Re: SHARE Baltimore

2006-04-13 Thread Brian Peterson
I understand that online SHARE Registration will be open at the end of May for the Baltimore meeting. I further understand that pricing should be identical to the Seattle meeting. (I emailed SHARE HQ and asked them). Brian On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 19:09:04 +0100, Bielskie, Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Looking for binary to character translation utility

2006-04-13 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks. That's a big help. With CLIPB.EXE I ***may*** be able to get a binary file into the clipboard and then uploaded. That would solve the whole problem. I'll find a download source. My understanding of the GPL is that the source code has to be "available" but whatever, I can find it. Yes, I h

Re: What's the linkage editor really want?

2006-04-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, john gilmore said: > Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:04:23 + > > About '-attr', my earlier point was that this UNIX syntax, whatever its > merits in its original home, is without merit in Binder control statements, > which until its introduction had a very different, coher

Re: Kudos to IBM's promotion

2006-04-13 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:22:49 -0600, Timothy Sipples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >There's really a simple and straightforward solution to this problem, one >which most of you on IBM-MAIN can execute: hire college interns. (IBM >certainly is.) That's what most directly impacts campus perception

Re: Looking for binary to character translation utility

2006-04-13 Thread Arthur T.
On 13 Apr 2006 06:54:15 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles Mills) wrote: Let's try a picture: ++ ++ ++ ++ || || || || | MM +---+ MP +---+ RD +---+ CM | || x || y || z || ++

Re: Mainframe & Evil

2006-04-13 Thread Arthur T.
On 12 Apr 2006 18:57:23 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craddock, Chris) wrote: BTW> after the IBM disclosure meetings this week the cat is out of the bag and a lot of the other CA guys have been dying for me to "de-cloak" so here goes... C

Re: News about Cybermation

2006-04-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Oh well. Doesn't IBM have a scheduler? ISTR, that there is an offering under the Tivoli umbrella. - -teD O-KAY! BLUE! JAYS! Let's PLAY! BALL! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [E

Re: COBOL2 Issues

2006-04-13 Thread David DeBervec
Harold, Is this enough information? Condition Information for Active Routines Condition Information for OFDBINIT (DSA address 0003DBA0) CIB Address: 0003ECA0 Current Co

Re: Abend code in AUTOOPER in IPL

2006-04-13 Thread Craddock, Chris
> Really the AUTOOPER start before JES2. As I need clear msgs of abends or > errors in IPL, this code is a problem when I run the statistcs of erros to > send report for dept. Running an automation product SUB=MSTR is the right thing to do. There are some limitations that arise from running befor

Re: TAPEMAP Problem

2006-04-13 Thread Barry Schwarz
Your job requests tape 00. You mounted tape 01862A. It looks like your tape management software (CA-1?) recognized the "mismount" and dropped the tape. The JCL looks like it is asking for BLP but the mount message specifies SL. On my system, a BLP mount does not have the SL following

Re: Abend code in AUTOOPER in IPL

2006-04-13 Thread Jorge Arueira Campos
Ulrich Really the AUTOOPER start before JES2. As I need clear msgs of abends or errors in IPL, this code is a problem when I run the statistcs of erros to send report for dept. Thanks for help Jorge Arueira Campos On 4/13/06, Ulrich Krueger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jorge, > are you tryi

CA buys Cybermation

2006-04-13 Thread Thomas Conley
In a message dated 4/13/2006 12:32:01 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Consolidation news just out - CA is buying Cybermation. One less choice for a scheduling package, and all that implies... http://www3.ca.com/press/PressRelease.aspx?CID=86910 This is really BFN (b

Re: Run CLIST/Edit marco without SYSEXEC

2006-04-13 Thread Barry Schwarz
Paul - Unfortunately, while that works for a normal clist/rexx, it won't work for an edit macro. Jeff - My edit macro reference says that a clist macro MUST be in one of the usual concatenations. If you don't like ALLOCATE, you can use ALTLIB.; Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

here we go again with USS maint

2006-04-13 Thread John Norgauer
When I ran the latest ESO PTF's against my USS I got the messages IKJ56228I PATH /Service/bin/IBM/ NOT IN CATALOG Do I change the definition in BPXPRMXX like this: ROOT FILESYSTEM('OMVS.SB.ROOT') /* MOUNTPOINT('/Service') TYPE(HFS) /*

PDSEDIT UTILITY

2006-04-13 Thread willie bunter
Would anybody have the jcl available for PDSEDIT? I used to have a copy around but I cannot retrieve from my pds which was deleted 3 months ago. Needless to say no backups are available. Thanks in advice. - Blab-away for as little as 1ยข/mi

News about Cybermation

2006-04-13 Thread Hal Merritt
amp;Da te=20060413&ID=5642864 <http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provider/providerarticle.asp?feed=AP&D ate=20060413&ID=5642864> -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send emai

Re: Abend code in AUTOOPER in IPL

2006-04-13 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Jorge, are you trying to start AUTOOPER with SUB=MSTR, before JES2 starts? In that case, your task can not write anything to a //... DD SYSOUT=... allocation, if it's running outside of JES2's control. Regards, Ulrich Krueger Mainframe Systems Services National Semiconductor Corp. Santa Clara, CA

Re: Abend code in AUTOOPER in IPL

2006-04-13 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 4/13/2006 12:56:16 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IEC141I 013-C8,IGG0193K,AUTOOPER,AUTOOPER,SYS3 Can you see the sysout? Isn't it that the PARMLIB isn't found or can't be read?

Re: What's the linkage editor really want?

2006-04-13 Thread john gilmore
Don Imbriale and Chris Craddock have now pointed out, as I should have done, that many people, in the manner of Moliere's bourgeois gentilhomme, have been using the Binder for a very long time without knowing it: the aliases IEWL and HEWL point to the Binder and not to the Linkage Editor, as th

Abend code in AUTOOPER in IPL

2006-04-13 Thread Jorge Arueira Campos
Hi all Look in the syslog of Z/os 1.4 at IPL, I found a msg with abend of AUTOOPER of BMC in start. Anybody know this problem ? I will open a problem in support team of BMC. IEF196I IEC141I 013-C8,IGG0193K,AUTOOPER,AUTOOPER,SYS3 IEC141I 013-C8,IGG0193K,AUTOOPER,AUTOOPER,SYS3 Thanks Jorg

Re: Of job schedulers and high ISV costs ...

2006-04-13 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 4/13/2006 12:32:01 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Consolidation news just out - CA is buying Cybermation. One less choice for a scheduling package, and all that implies... http://www3.ca.com/press/PressRelease.aspx?CID=86910 >> Hope it is less b

Re: Looking for binary to character translation utility

2006-04-13 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Mills > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 11:41 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Looking for binary to character translation utility > > > > make sure the client approves

Of job schedulers and high ISV costs ...

2006-04-13 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
Consolidation news just out - CA is buying Cybermation. One less choice for a scheduling package, and all that implies... http://www3.ca.com/press/PressRelease.aspx?CID=86910 Jeffrey Deaver, Senior Analyst, Systems Engineering 651-665-4231 ---

IBM 3380 and 3880 maintenance docs needed

2006-04-13 Thread Brian Knittel
Hi Folks, Do any of you have any manuals, specifically maintenance, parts, diagnostics, theory and operating manuals for the IBM 3380 DASD and 3880 controllers that I would be able to have, borrow, or get scans or PDFs of? I know that nobody has these in service anymore, but a few manuals migh

Cheers & Jeers : KEY8 ECSA storage Compuware Abend-AID 10.1

2006-04-13 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi, Compuware Abend-Aid initialization task ABENDAID showed up on my radar using user key common storage after our tools team upgraded to 10.1 last year which was apparently issued by the vendor in April 2005. I had failed to add this add this in the updates to the Fully Wired slides for the User

Re: What's the linkage editor really wants?

2006-04-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, john gilmore said: > Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:26:11 + > > The notion that the Binder is a new, arcane and/or dubious piece of > technology is a curious one. It can pretend to be the Linkage Editor, > With at least one exception. With Linkage Editor, I was accusto

Re: What's the linkage editor really wants?

2006-04-13 Thread Steve Comstock
Johnny Luo wrote: ThanksI've learned so much from this topic.Frankly speaking, I can not understand all of these at this time.But I'll save them and in the future hope I can grasp more. As for the 'binder' and 'linkage editor',it's a shock to me.I thought they're the same thing. Can I g

Re: What's the linkage editor really wants?

2006-04-13 Thread Craddock, Chris
> As for the 'binder' and 'linkage editor',it's a shock to me.I > thought they're the same thing. > > Can I get some suggestion about wich manual I should > resort to for the usage of 'binder' ? I know IEWL ,or HEWL, > is the alias of a same program and I use them everyday to > generate cobol

Re: FW: Technical Support Bulletin - Mainframe - Red Alerts subscription ser...

2006-04-13 Thread Paul Dineen
While this problem was not applicable at my site...I too got the IBM EMAIL a week and a half after a potential problem. Thanks to Brian Petersen who reported the issue to this list on 3/31 prior to the clock change. The contributers here continue to deliver daily value, sharing experiences whi

Re: Looking for binary to character translation utility

2006-04-13 Thread Charles Mills
> make sure the client approves of the above. Out of the question. Client would not disapprove - just no one warm body has both the technical smarts and the management authority to approve. But no problem, as someone (Commander Grace?) once said, it's easier to ask forgiveness than permission. C

Re: TAPEMAP Problem

2006-04-13 Thread George Rodriguez
Dean wrote: "Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong ?" I've used the utility before, but I know that the BLP is only supported in a certain initiator. I just don't know how to check that... Hope this helps, George Rodriguez Lead Systems Programmer abc Distributing, LLC 14445 NE 20 Lane N. Mia

Re: z/OS Apache?

2006-04-13 Thread Kirk Wolf
IMO, IBM still doesn't get it Nobody wants a new IBM Http Server, "Powered by Apache". As far as I can tell, this just means that Apache is somewhere inside, wrapped in an IBM OCO lock-box, so that it can't be customized and extended like -real- Apache. Why not provide an (open source) port of

Re: Migrating me from linux/bsd to zOS : IBM-MAIN Digest - 7 Apr 2006 to 8Apr 2006 (#2006-98)

2006-04-13 Thread Charles Mills
If you have enough space and some sort of access to a DVD reader (networked, or can borrow an external drive, for example) you can copy all or part of the DVDs to your hard drive. Ditto for the CDs. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: What's the linkage editor really wants?

2006-04-13 Thread Imbriale, Donald (Exchange)
On the MVS Bookshelf there is a manual titled MVS Program Management: User's Guide and Reference The linkage editor is invoked using the program name HEWLKED. The binder is invoked using the program name IEWL. Don Imbriale >-Original Message- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto

Re: What's the linkage editor really wants?

2006-04-13 Thread Johnny Luo
ThanksI've learned so much from this topic.Frankly speaking, I can not understand all of these at this time.But I'll save them and in the future hope I can grasp more. As for the 'binder' and 'linkage editor',it's a shock to me.I thought they're the same thing. Can I get some suggestion a

Re: What's the linkage editor really wants?

2006-04-13 Thread Chris Mason
John, Since Johnny is something of a "newbie" it's important for him to know he is getting advice from someone who is not a current practitioner to whom the Binder is new territory that might as well be the Aegean peninsula. Thus, although, as Paul Gilmartin suggested, Johnny should really be usin

Re: TAPEMAP Problem

2006-04-13 Thread Dean Montevago
Oops. Didn't look at the jobcard. Sorry for the bother. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Montevago Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TAPEMAP Problem No. The jobclass has BLP(YES)

Re: TAPEMAP Problem

2006-04-13 Thread Dean Montevago
No. The jobclass has BLP(YES). -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TAPEMAP Problem Are you running in a jobclass where BLP(NO) is set in JES

Re: TAPEMAP Problem

2006-04-13 Thread Mark Jacobs
Are you running in a jobclass where BLP(NO) is set in JES2PARM? Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Inc. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Montevago Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 11:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: TAPE

Re: Mainframe & Evil

2006-04-13 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
I agree with you and want to make sure it is clear that I am discussing one vendor. I was pleasantly surprised when I found out that CA was actually going to be dropping my IDMS bills to switch to the new machine. Then I get blind-sided by this other vendor. Rex >From: "Pommier, Rex R." <[EMA

TAPEMAP Problem

2006-04-13 Thread Dean Montevago
Hi, I'm having trouble running the TAPEMAP program. I'm using the following JCL: //SYSUT1 DD UNIT=T3590,VOL=SER=00, // DSN=ANYTAPE, // DISP=SHR,LABEL=(,BLP,EXPDT=98000) I'm trying to do a map of an IBM PTF tape. The tape gets kicked down

Re: Cancel a job after 10 min runtime

2006-04-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Why would you want to cancel after 10 wall clock minutes? If you're like most shops, Batch is low priority. It only soaks up CPU that nobody else wants. And, if there is none available, it doesn't execute. So, at lightly loaded times a job could use tons of CPU before 10 minutes have elapsed. A

Re: Mainframe & Evil

2006-04-13 Thread Stephen M. Wiegand
At 10:35 PM 04/12/2006, you wrote: Welcome to the Borg Collection. Actually it is Bord Collective. The Borg Collection is probably something you buy from one of those collectible stores -- Bruce A. Black Actually, according to Wikipedia it is Borg Collective. The Borg or Borg Collectiv

Re: Mainframe & Evil

2006-04-13 Thread Dave Salt
From: "Pommier, Rex R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am seeing the exact phenomenon here. We're looking at "upgrading" from a 7060-H50 to a z890-140 which are basically the same horsepower. I have one ISV - not Computer Associates - who is charging me a $3+ upgrade fee and increasing my annual maint

Re: What's the linkage editor really wants?

2006-04-13 Thread john gilmore
The notion that the Binder is a new, arcane and/or dubious piece of technology is a curious one. It can pretend to be the Linkage Editor, producing/outputting load modules; or, again, it can instead produce 'new fangled' program objects. Moreover, no effort to avoid putting load modules and/o

Re: Mainframe & Evil

2006-04-13 Thread Dave Salt
From: "Ceruti, Gerard G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I understand the reason for IBM helping out with 3rd party costs , but now you have the situation that the IBM software costs are the biggest, who do we scare them with ?. When I made the comment that IBM is now competing with a number of ISV produc

Re: What's the linkage editor really wants?

2006-04-13 Thread Chris Mason
Johnny, Don't worry about the safety angle. If you use an ENTRY linkage editor statement, you impose the entry point so, obviously, you don't lose it. I believe the default entry point is the beginning of the module which is, in any case, very often correct so you don't always get into trouble eve

Re: z/OS Apache?

2006-04-13 Thread Timothy Sipples
>I was hoping for a little more information re: IBM's support of real >Apache on z/OS. >Like: >1) Will it be available outside of Websphere? I would expect so, yes. >2) Will it support common Apache mods (mod-jk*, ssl, perl, etc)? Will >it be open to user's building their own apache modules? To

z/OS Apache? Was: IBM Announces WebSphere Application Server V6.1 for z/OS

2006-04-13 Thread Kirk Wolf
I was hoping for a little more information re: IBM's support of real Apache on z/OS. Like: 1) Will it be available outside of Websphere? 2) Will it support common Apache mods (mod-jk*, ssl, perl, etc)? Will it be open to user's building their own apache modules? 3) Will it support z/OS authentic

Re: Space in MB?

2006-04-13 Thread Neil Duffee
On 2006-04-12 at 16:32, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote to IBM-Main about "Re: Space in MB?": > > give you the value in Kb (or KiBi for the purists) > Actually on disk it's KB. In memory, it's KiBi. 'cept that the quoted, help text says, "total amount of space (in kilobytes, k=1024 bytes

Re: Looking for binary to character translation utility

2006-04-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, McKown, John said: > Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 09:09:12 -0500 > > > -Original Message- > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Charles Mills > > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 8:54 AM > > > > The question is: does anyone know of a tool that will get > > non-cha

Re: Looking for binary to character translation utility

2006-04-13 Thread Andy Robertson
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:54:19 -0700, Charles Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I'm looking for a free or very inexpensive utility ***available in source >code form*** that would convert an arbitrary mainframe file to a character >(such as hex) format, and back again. You might or might not want to

Re: Migrating me from linux/bsd to zOS : IBM-MAIN Digest - 7 Apr 2006 to 8Apr 2006 (#2006-98)

2006-04-13 Thread Alan C. Field
Yes - I finally get a PC at work that can read DVD's. I can read the first documentation DVD, then IBM starts producing them on the higher density DVDs and I can't read them again, :( Even two DVDs would be better than 8 CDs. > IBM also puts most of this information on CDs Every (nearly e

Re: Looking for binary to character translation utility

2006-04-13 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Mills > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 8:54 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Looking for binary to character translation utility > > > Let's try a picture: > > ++

Re: FW: Technical Support Bulletin - Mainframe - Red Alerts subscription ser...

2006-04-13 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 4/13/2006 9:00:37 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: today. It seems something didn't work well here ... >> Lacking anything substantive, my guess is they took the folks in charge of Level 55 microcode and put them in charge of Red Alert distributi

FW: Technical Support Bulletin - Mainframe - Red Alerts subscription service for zSeries

2006-04-13 Thread Knutson, Sam
I heard about this on IBM-MAIN and our IBM technical liaison reached out to us but it only finally showed up via the official Red Alert email today. It seems something didn't work well here ... Red Alerts subscription service for zSeries Red Alerts (2006.03.31) Daylight saving time offset ch

Re: Migrating me from linux/bsd to zOS

2006-04-13 Thread Alan C. Field
OS/MVT and OS/VS2 TSO Data Utilities: COPY, FORMAT, LIST,MERGE User's Guide and Reference. SC28-6765-4 - March 1974. 66 pages Program Product 5734-UT1 Where's TSO COPY documented? I just got to wondering idly how hard it would be to write a clone or semi-clone (without the bugs, or at least

Re: Mainframe & Evil

2006-04-13 Thread Craddock, Chris
> > http://www-306.ibm.com/software/info/zseries/ > > Still worth a read. "Dinosaur Myth". It is just as misleading as any of the other similar pitches with a selective view. If all of the systems were interchangeable then it would make sense to compare their $$ costs. Functionally however, w

Re: Looking for binary to character translation utility

2006-04-13 Thread Charles Mills
Let's try a picture: ++ ++ ++ ++ || || || || | MM +---+ MP +---+ RD +---+ CM | || x || y || z || ++ ++ ++ ++ MM = my mainframe MP = my PC (Windows) RD = Windows Remote Desktop/Citrix Terminal Server CM =

Re: A very basic question

2006-04-13 Thread Eugene S.Hudders
Hi: Just to add some additional comments to this item: The Hursley staff has stated at several conferences I have attended (SHARE and the CICS Technical Conference) that a TCB switch (e.g., QR to L8 (DB2)) within CICS takes around 2000 instructions or a round trip 4000 instructions. It would see

Re: What's the linkage editor really wants?

2006-04-13 Thread Charles Mills
I don't think there's anything unsafe about using load modules as input to the link editor - you just have to be aware of what's "not there" potentially in a load module. Or try it in some particular situation and see if it works. The link editor is pretty good at telling you that things did not wo

Re: Removing obsolete primary vol entries from BCDS

2006-04-13 Thread George Dranes
I do notice that some of the backup entries in the BCDS that are still floating around and were initially backed up off these obsolete volumes still reference that volume in the record. Would deleting the primary volume entry from the BCDS cause us any issues with these backup entries?? Also I did

Re: Job scheduling

2006-04-13 Thread Michael Schmutzok
I have batch Rexx execs that I use to dynamically create and submit JCL. I can schedule the primary job through our scheduler, however, since the primary job creates and submits the secondary job, the scheduler knows nothing about it. Hence, the need to control the secondary job via an alternate wa

Re: What's the linkage editor really wants?

2006-04-13 Thread Johnny Luo
Chris, Thanks a lot.I remember you've helped me so many times in this list and thanks again. You said: ' I believe you can pass a load module through the linkage editor as many times as you like and I was going to say "you'll do it no harm" but I seem to remember you might lose the entry point a

Re: Removing obsolete primary vol entries from BCDS

2006-04-13 Thread Mueller, David
The "FIXCDS P" command is the proper cleanup method, and your syntax is correct. It is safe. David Mueller | Systems Programmer | DMS/EITS Phone: 850-414-9134 (Rm 107 SRC) | Fax: 850-921-8343 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- George Dranes said: I recently ran a list on our

Removing obsolete primary vol entries from BCDS

2006-04-13 Thread George Dranes
I recently ran a list on our primary volumes and noticed that we had about 20 obsolete volumes still floating around. I issued a DELVOL Primary for them and assumed this would clean the entries out of the BCDS as well as the MCDS. As usual, I was wrong. When I issue a LIST PVOL BCDS against them

Re: Cancel a job after 10 min runtime

2006-04-13 Thread Charles Mills
Is the question "what JCL or similar statement parameters can I specify that will limit a job to ten wall clock minutes of execution time?" I don't know that there is an answer but someone in this august group may. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:

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