Re: SMS compression cost size

2010-02-24 Thread R Hey
Ron, Your example is an 'exception', it was decided to do it for that DS to gain the benefit. That's OK by me. It wasn't decided to COMP all VSAM/PS(FB/VB) DS that are over 5 CYL, which is the case I question. I've seen thousands of GDS, under 5 Cyl, being COMP'd, they quickly go to ML2, so

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2010-02-24 Thread Frank Yaeger
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Re: Easytrieve..

2010-02-24 Thread Norman Hollander
Call CA Support. They will be able to help on that. You could also check support.ca.com in product documentation section. znor...@ca.com -Original Message- From: Ron Thomas [mailto:ron5...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 09:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Easytrieve..

Re: FTP Datahub Question

2010-02-24 Thread McKown, John
Good point on the rename. I have a fuzzy recollection of a problem when the server is Windows. In UNIX, a RENAME will delete the new name if it already exists. IIRC, Windows gives a name in use error. But I could be misremembering. Oh, and if you just decide to delete before renaming, then

Re: FTP Datahub Question

2010-02-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 07:15:23 -0600, McKown, John wrote: Good point on the rename. I have a fuzzy recollection of a problem when the server is Windows. In UNIX, a RENAME will delete the new name if it already exists. IIRC, Windows gives a name in use error. But I could be misremembering. Oh,

Adding/changing devices in HCD

2010-02-24 Thread Steve Jones
We are running z/OS 1.7 on z10. Since migrating to the z10 I have been unable to add or change device information within HCD. In particular, panel CBDPDV30 does not seem to parse the data correctly. For example, the 4 character CU number is split across the first two fields of the Connected to

Re: Determining if DUMMY allocation

2010-02-24 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 7:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Determining if DUMMY allocation I wasn't picking on JES3 specifically or any one aspect of things.

Re: FTP Datahub Question

2010-02-24 Thread Chris Mason
Paul Generally, one end of an FTP connection is called a server and the other is called a client. Please unconfuse me. I guess the confusion arises because any computer that doesn't sit on or under someone's desk can be called a server - and I can date this semantic distortion to an exchange

Re: 3590-A50 ATL maximum concurrent I/O's per CU

2010-02-24 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Fred, While I cannot directly answer your question (specifically the concurrent part), my guess is that the issue behind the question is that you're not driving your 3590s at full speed due to ESCON channel limitations. We have a 3590-A50 with 4 3590-B11 transports behind it. It had a single 17

is there some GUI for the BMC Mainview SRM ?

2010-02-24 Thread MONTERO ROMERO, ENRIQUE ELOI
Hi Forum team, I know the CA-Vantage SRM Windows Client, which is a GUI installed in the PC that is really a front-end of the z/OS CA-Vantage. But, I my new work, they are installing the competitor product, BMC Mainview SRM for the z/OS. The question: Is there some GUI or Windows Client for

Re: is there some GUI for the BMC Mainview SRM ?

2010-02-24 Thread Spencer, Mike
BMC MainView SRM does indeed have a GUI interface. I can talk specifics offline if you wish. Mike Spencer BMC Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of MONTERO ROMERO, ENRIQUE ELOI Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010

Re: IBM-caused needless aggravation for today

2010-02-24 Thread Peter Relson
I know the specific macro that caused (or rather, obscured) my problem was IEFJFCBN, but there were at least two or three others with the same feature -- perhaps one was CVT. I had presumed you were talking about non-mapping macros. IEFJFCBN and CVT and many others simply default to LIST=NO

What is a Server? (Was FTP Datahub Question)

2010-02-24 Thread Charles Mills
any computer that doesn't sit on or under someone's desk can be called a server No, no, no. It is not productive that the mainframe veterans have one definition for server and the rest of the world has a different one. Server is a computer science architectural term. It has nothing to do with

What is FDBMSPLU

2010-02-24 Thread George Rodriguez
Does anyone on the list know what this is: +FDBRC1211I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT FOR SUBTASK 8 FDBMSPLU +SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=0C4 REASON CODE=0011 + TIME=09:30:53 SEQ=5,190 CPU= ASID=0066 + PSW AT TIME OF ERROR 078D1000 96438836 ILC 4 INTC 11 +

Re: Adventure - Or Colossal Cave Adventure

2010-02-24 Thread Hillock, Timothy
I have seen a version of Adventure written in Basic. I still have that somewhere at home. Just the listing, never got around to typing it in. Take my advice. I'm not using it. :-) TImOTHY Hillock -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: What is FDBMSPLU

2010-02-24 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:23:47 -0500 George Rodriguez rodrigu...@palmbeach.k12.fl.us wrote: :Does anyone on the list know what this is: A quite weird program that is doing ICM1,B'0111',PSATOLD+1 Perhaps it expects to get control in 24 bit mode and is using the top byte for a flag?

Re: What is FDBMSPLU

2010-02-24 Thread Lester, Bob
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of George Rodriguez Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 8:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: What is FDBMSPLU Does anyone on the list know what this is: +FDBRC1211I SYMPTOM

Re: 3590-A50 ATL maximum concurrent I/O's per CU

2010-02-24 Thread Scott Rowe
But no matter how many ESCON channels you put on a 3590-A50, you cannot run it at full speed. Eight ESCON channels cannot pump as much data through an A50 as one 2Gb FICON can, IMO. The speed increase I go going from ESCON to FICON on A50s was far more than I expected, particularly with

Re: What is a Server? (Was FTP Datahub Question)

2010-02-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 07:25:59 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: any computer that doesn't sit on or under someone's desk can be called a server No, no, no. It is not productive that the mainframe veterans have one definition for server and the rest of the world has a different one. Server is a

Re: LPARs: More or Less?

2010-02-24 Thread George Henke
In my previous summary of arguments thus far, I forgot to note this one: *Pro: *LPARs eliminate single points of failure. *Con:* XRC, PPRC-XD, FLASH/COPY, METRO/MIRROR, GLOBAL/ MIRROR, now provide recovery from instantaneous to anywhere around 4 hours and just effectively than LPARs, if not

Re: What is FDBMSPLU

2010-02-24 Thread George Rodriguez
Thanks, it does... I've already opened a ticket with Compuware for help. Thanks, George Rodriguez Specialist II - IT Solutions Application Support / Quality Assurance PX - 47652 (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobile) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B-332

Need tool to zap core

2010-02-24 Thread Pinnacle
I have a need to zap core, but my client does not have OMEGAMON. I searched the CBT mods tape and came up empty. What we're trying to do is a SETPROG LPA,ADD, but of course, there's a vector table that needs to be updated with the address of the new module. This is not an SVC, so my only

Re: Need tool to zap core

2010-02-24 Thread Staller, Allan
Try CBT 149 (UCLA Utilities) or CBT179-181 (Leonard Woren). IIRC there is a program in (SUPERZAP?) that should do what you want... HTH, snip I have a need to zap core, but my client does not have OMEGAMON. I searched the CBT mods tape and came up empty. What we're trying to do is a SETPROG

Paging Software

2010-02-24 Thread Lucy Arnold
Hello All We would like to send pages and or e-mails (depending on job importance) automatically from Control-M when a job fails . We are using a REXX Exec SMTPNOTE currently to send e-mails, we are not running an SMTP started task. I was curious what sort of software all ya'll were using?

Re: Need tool to zap core

2010-02-24 Thread Staller, Allan
Also try CBT082 and CBT086 snip Try CBT 149 (UCLA Utilities) or CBT179-181 (Leonard Woren). IIRC there is a program in (SUPERZAP?) that should do what you want... HTH, snip I have a need to zap core, but my client does not have OMEGAMON. I searched the CBT mods tape and came up empty. What

Re: Need tool to zap core

2010-02-24 Thread Martin Kline
I have a need to zap core, but my client does not have OMEGAMON. I searched the CBT mods tape and came up empty. What we're trying to do is a SETPROG LPA,ADD, but of course, there's a vector table that needs to be updated with the address of the new module. This is not an SVC, so my only

Re: SMS compression cost size

2010-02-24 Thread Tobias Cafiero
Rez, Do you have a analysis of what Compression cost/dsn? Regards, Tobias Cafiero Data Resource Management Tel: (212) 855-1117 R Hey sys...@yahoo.com Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 02/24/2010 03:16 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: Need tool to zap core

2010-02-24 Thread Rob Scott
Martin - surely you have missed out the last step : Make it authorized. Switch to key zero. Verify the storage. Alter the storage. Switch back to user key. Exit..er...IPL :-) Rob Scott Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email:

Re: Paging Software -- Mono-rail

2010-02-24 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lucy Arnold Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 10:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Paging Software Hello All We would like to send pages and or e-mails (depending on job importance)

Re: Need tool to zap core

2010-02-24 Thread Lizette Koehler
I thought the TEST function of TSO could do this as well? Lizette Try CBT 149 (UCLA Utilities) or CBT179-181 (Leonard Woren). IIRC there is a program in (SUPERZAP?) that should do what you want... HTH, snip I have a need to zap core, but my client does not have OMEGAMON. I searched the

Re: IBM-caused needless aggravation for today

2010-02-24 Thread Charles Mills
Okay, I said I would not clutter the list again with this but I will respond to your question. BTW, I am not asking for IBM to change anything other than a mindset that thinks a local unique feature (LIST=) that duplicates a well-known global feature (NOGEN) is a good thing. What error messages

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-24 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of john gilmore Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 1:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++ Snipped The absence of this

Re: Need tool to zap core

2010-02-24 Thread John P Kalinich
Tom Conley of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 02/24/2010 10:21:07 AM: I have a need to zap core, but my client does not have OMEGAMON. I searched the CBT mods tape and came up empty. What we're trying to do is a SETPROG LPA,ADD, but of course, there's a vector

Re: Need tool to zap core

2010-02-24 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:21:07 -0500 Pinnacle pinnc...@rochester.rr.com wrote: :I have a need to zap core, but my client does not have OMEGAMON. I searched :the CBT mods tape and came up empty. What we're trying to do is a SETPROG :LPA,ADD, but of course, there's a vector table that needs to be

Re: Need tool to zap core

2010-02-24 Thread Martin Kline
Martin - surely you have missed out the last step : Make it authorized. Switch to key zero. Verify the storage. Alter the storage. Switch back to user key. Exit..er...IPL Never resulted in an IPL with my own such code . :)

Re: What is a Server? (Was FTP Datahub Question)

2010-02-24 Thread Chris Mason
Charles No, no, no ... I trust you read the whole of my post and noticed that I became irritated by this *misuse* of the word. It may have been more than irritated actually - tempered finally by my having to point out to these good security people that they had managed to get hold of some

Re: IBM-caused needless aggravation for today

2010-02-24 Thread Tony Harminc
On 24 February 2010 11:52, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: What's the big deal? you say. Any experienced assembler programmer should be able to figure that out. But that's only true if you have a clue where the error might be. Here's the situation I was in: a whole bunch of brand new

Re: What is a Server? (Was FTP Datahub Question)

2010-02-24 Thread Chris Mason
Paul Size doesn't matter? For example, consider X11, where the terms are widely misused. I have X11 clients on z/OS communicating with an X11 server on my laptop (with an Intel chip). You don't get away with that one! X windows is the example of client- server that teachers use in order to be

Re: Paging Software

2010-02-24 Thread Longnecker, Dennis
We are using TelAlert (was from Telamon now I think it is MIR3). Software runs on a windows box. From the mainframe, I have some rexx code to do a TCP/IP socket call to the PC (REXEC basically). In the command stream is information on what group to page and the message to send. TelAlert

Re: Need tool to zap core

2010-02-24 Thread Chris Mason
Tom IMMSMC: If it's a 360 Model 40, there are some nice tactile switches it's a pleasure to flip on the front of the machine. If it's a 360 Model 30 there are some tacky dials on the front of the machine. I'm afraid those were the only two models with *core* with which I ever got to play -

Re: Paging Software

2010-02-24 Thread Gibney, Dave
Why not run the SMTP STC? It works. Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lucy Arnold Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 8:40 AM To:

Re: What is a Server?

2010-02-24 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. charl...@mcn.org (Charles Mills) writes: Yes, I know everyone is defensive because a fad usually referred to as client/server cost a lot of us our jobs about

Re: Consolidate Storage Groups

2010-02-24 Thread Neil Duffee
On 2010-02-23 at 21:25 concerning Re: Consolidate Storage Groups, Ted MacNeil eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote to IBM-Main : Naturally, we're not at production yet with its performance/placement considerations. What performance/placement considerations? With cache/fast DASD/FICON, what's left?

Re: Consolidate Storage Groups

2010-02-24 Thread John Kington
Neel, ps. my plan without much detail : DB2 StoGroup, Guaranteed SC, quiesced volume(s) in same SG as normal. My experience with DB2 stogroup specifying real volsers and guaranteed space=yes was that all datasets allocated would go to the first volume until the allocation would exceed the high

Re: Need tool to zap core

2010-02-24 Thread David Cole
It's not free, but z/XDC will do the trick. Even more, it can also zap storage that's been made read only (such as the PLPA, read-only sections of the nucleus, and any other page that has been made read-only by the PGSER macro). If your client has z/XDC, then this would be an easy way to

Re: Need tool to zap core

2010-02-24 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. chrisma...@belgacom.net (Chris Mason) writes: If it's a 360 Model 40, there are some nice tactile switches it's a pleasure to flip on the front of the machine.

Re: Need tool to zap core

2010-02-24 Thread Tony Harminc
On 24 February 2010 11:49, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: I thought the TEST function of TSO could do this as well? No - not even TESTAUTH will zap protected storage. You can, however, write a tiny program (one instruction, perhaps) that then runs under TESTAUTH to do the dirty

Re: Need tool to zap core

2010-02-24 Thread Spencer, Mike
If the customer has SYSPROG Services from BMC they can perform the ZAP. Mike Spencer BMC Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tony Harminc Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 12:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject:

Re: Need tool to zap core

2010-02-24 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:21:07 -0500, Pinnacle pinnc...@rochester.rr.com wrote: I have a need to zap core, but my client does not have OMEGAMON. I searched the CBT mods tape and came up empty. What we're trying to do is a SETPROG LPA,ADD, but of course, there's a vector table that needs to be

Re: Paging Software

2010-02-24 Thread Lucy Arnold
Dave, We don't want to get a bunch of SPAM that fills up the spool Q. Lucy From: Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 02/24/2010 11:05 AM Subject:Re: Paging Software Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Why not run

Re: Paging Software

2010-02-24 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 2/24/2010 3:07:56 P.M. Central Standard Time, lucy.arn...@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu writes: We don't want to get a bunch of SPAM that fills up the spool Q. Might look at Lionel's XMITP at _www.lbdsoftware.com_ (http://www.lbdsoftware.com) He's got instructions on how to run

Re: What is a Server? (Was FTP Datahub Question)

2010-02-24 Thread Howard Brazee
On 24 Feb 2010 07:26:51 -0800, charl...@mcn.org (Charles Mills) wrote: No, no, no. It is not productive that the mainframe veterans have one definition for server and the rest of the world has a different one. Server is a computer science architectural term. It has nothing to do with the size or

Re: What is a Server? (Was FTP Datahub Question)

2010-02-24 Thread George Henke
Kinda like Primary LU and Secondary LU in SNA lingo. On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Howard Brazee howard.bra...@cusys.eduwrote: On 24 Feb 2010 07:26:51 -0800, charl...@mcn.org (Charles Mills) wrote: No, no, no. It is not productive that the mainframe veterans have one definition for server

Re: Paging Software

2010-02-24 Thread Thomas L. Sipusic
You can easily block incoming e-mail. How to do it is in the ibm-main or ibmtcp-l archives. Tom Sipusic Lucy Arnold wrote: Dave, We don't want to get a bunch of SPAM that fills up the spool Q. Lucy From: Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 02/24/2010

Re: Adventure - Or Colossal Cave Adventure

2010-02-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In listserv%201002221730189473.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 02/22/2010 at 05:30 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: Would you be surprised if someone had an EMACS version? No. Would you be surprised if no one had an EMACS version? No. EMACS is a wonderful operating system; all that it's

Re: Adventure - Or Colossal Cave Adventure

2010-02-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In of9f900a3a.e257dd9e-on882576d3.00708cc7-882576d3.0071e...@kp.org, on 02/23/2010 at 12:44 PM, jack.hamil...@kp.org said: And I liked WYLBUR. My problem is that I like features in several different editors[1], including SuperWylbur©, but no single editor combines all of them. I prefer line

Re: IBM-caused needless aggravation for today

2010-02-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In ofaee62f43.70af0c31-on852576d4.004a6e5c-852576d4.00542...@us.ibm.com, on 02/24/2010 at 10:19 AM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com said: I had presumed you were talking about non-mapping macros. IEFJFCBN and CVT and many others simply default to LIST=NO which is what many coders desire.

Re: LPARs: More or Less?

2010-02-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In b53f38421002230756r50f66628r28ec6b31bfc9d...@mail.gmail.com, on 02/23/2010 at 10:56 AM, George Henke gahe...@gmail.com said: Intelligent people can disagree and still be friends. But they don't misrepresent their friends' positions. but I do know we can do better than just LPARs for the

Re: LPARs: More or Less?

2010-02-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In m3ocjfgadq@garlic.com, on 02/23/2010 at 11:55 AM, Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com said: some 370s did have a sort of virtual memory (a little analogous to current LPARs) ... used for emulators The implementation of the DOS Emulator Feature on the 3145 involved an associative

Re: IBM-caused needless aggravation for today

2010-02-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 01bb01cab42e$08768200$196386...@org, on 02/22/2010 at 06:15 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: Perhaps someone else has a better justification or a better resolution? Is there some reason to rule out the obvious justification: holding down the size of the assembly listing? Of course,

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea005bde01...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom, on 02/22/2010 at 12:15 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said: There is a very old, very terrible technique that I used long ago. I mention it, but do not recommend it. From the currently executing TCB, find the

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4b8389b7.9030...@gmail.com, on 02/23/2010 at 03:54 PM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com said: You're fundamentally not reentrant if you use any kind of global data. Nonsense. You're reentrant as long as you ensure that concurrent access doesn't cause incorrect results. The simplest

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In listserv%201002221028079631.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 02/22/2010 at 10:28 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: Only if you're not authorized. When did that form of IDENTIFY start requiring APF authorization? I agree that the overhead might be higher with IDENTIFY. -- Shmuel

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 053f2631ec9c584883847c8b4970a22806287...@josqems1.jsq.bsg.ad.adp.com, on 02/24/2010 at 11:57 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 peter.far...@broadridge.com said: OK, I'll bite. What is/was the intended purpose of controlled storage? Stack. but at that time I couldn't really see what the

Re: Adventure - Or Colossal Cave Adventure

2010-02-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In of7bc60fb2.c3c3be5d-on882576d3.005acd1b-882576d3.005ae...@kp.org, on 02/23/2010 at 08:33 AM, jack.hamil...@kp.org said: Remember that TICO moon-lander? TECO? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't

Re: Adventure - Or Colossal Cave Adventure

2010-02-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4b831351.8030...@neo.tamu.edu, on 02/22/2010 at 05:29 PM, Richard Peurifoy r-peuri...@neo.tamu.edu said: I suspect he may have meant ORVYL, the interactive exuction companion to WYLBUR. We never ran it, so I don't know much about it. Did anyone use it other than Stanford? -- Shmuel

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 022901cab4a7$a821dc90$f86595...@org, on 02/23/2010 at 08:45 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: FOO DXD F BAR DC Q(FOO) does that give me a fullword that will be task-unique at run time? No. But if in the same load module you do the above and Joe does MYFOO DXD A MYBAR DC

Re: Adventure - Or Colossal Cave Adventure

2010-02-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In m3fx4s3kja@garlic.com, on 02/22/2010 at 06:42 PM, Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com said: from the file ... The phrase WYLBUR/TSO confirms my suspicion that someone was very confused; the two are very different animals. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 00ab01cab3d9$9d328790$d79796...@org, on 02/22/2010 at 08:10 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: IDENTIFY is an interesting idea. I would suspect lower overhead than name/token. But can you IDENTIFY an address in GETMAIN storage? Yes. have to be inside a real load module? No. --

Re: LPARs: More or Less?

2010-02-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1266942295.28704.243.ca...@chuck.duda.com, on 02/23/2010 at 11:24 AM, David Andrews d...@lists.duda.com said: One of you Old Ones (and I'm thinking of Shmuel in particular) correct me on this, but didn't bare MVT have a horrendous core fragmentation issue? VMS[1] had a horrendous core

Re: Need tool to zap core

2010-02-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 9eaad8039236466f809085d1a7c40...@pinnacledesk1, on 02/24/2010 at 11:21 AM, Pinnacle pinnc...@rochester.rr.com said: I have a need to zap core, I might believe a need to zap storage. I searched the CBT mods tape and came up empty. Was the old COREZAP0 program ever updated to run on a

Re: Paging Software

2010-02-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
cc'd offlist. In of5c873515.4db399b2-on882576d4.005b04cf-882576d4.005b8...@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu, on 02/24/2010 at 08:39 AM, Lucy Arnold lucy.arn...@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu said: we are not running an SMTP started task. There's a replacement for SMTP[1] on the current release of z/OS. I was curious

Re: Need tool to zap core

2010-02-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5354659.126703019.javamail.r...@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net, on 02/24/2010 at 11:49 AM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com said: I thought the TEST function of TSO could do this as well? There's an authorized alias; I don't recall whether it's TESTAUTH or AUTHTEST. --

Re: Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer

2010-02-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4b80038c.1050...@gmail.com, on 02/20/2010 at 10:45 AM, Gabriel Tully gjtu...@gmail.com said: The days of the typical MVS administrator wearing a lab coat are over. No. They would have had tohaveto existed at some time in order to be over now. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg

Re: Need tool to zap core

2010-02-24 Thread Mark Jacobs
TESTAUTH. It's protected by a SAF profile. Mark Jacobs -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Wed 2/24/2010 5:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Need tool to zap core In

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-24 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip--- OK, I'll bite. What is/was the intended purpose of controlled storage? I remember when I first was learning PL/1 (too many moons ago to count) being fascinated by it, but at that time I couldn't really see what the

TIMEZONE Specification

2010-02-24 Thread Donnelly, John P
We have TIMEZONE W.00.00.00 specified in our CLOCKxx PARMLIB members. System displays date/time as: 28 JAN 2010 11:10:44 + We wish this display to be: 28 JAN 2010 11:10:44 PST Will setting the TIMEZONE parameter as: TIMEZONE W.08.00.00 Produce the desired result? May we introduce

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:29:52 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: then BAR and MYVAR will have different contents. In really old PL/I compilers IBM put the Q-cons in the offset fields of instructions, limiting the PRV to 4096 bytes. That's why there's a 12-bit (IIRC) RLD! -- gil

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:55:22 -0600, Rick Fochtman wrote: If you've ever done list processing, CONTROLLED storage is the cat's meow. Beats the Dickens out of trying to maintain arrays and array counters, especially if there's a chance of exceeding the size of the arrays. ... How is CONTROLLED

Re: TSO reconnect (ikjefln2) reject by RACF

2010-02-24 Thread Chris Mason
Matan why did IBM relased this function only from z/1.10 Make that Why did IBM released this function only from z/OS V1.11? Presumably you are comparing logging on from a 3270 device to TSO (z/OS) with logging on from a 3270 device to z/VM and that something that is so obviously useful in VM

Re: Adventure - Or Colossal Cave Adventure

2010-02-24 Thread Jack . Hamilton
Probably TECO. That was a long time ago. -- Jack Hamilton Management Information Analysis Kaiser Foundation Health Plan, Inc. 1950 Franklin Street, Oakland, California 94612 +1 510 987-1556 (KP tieline 8-427-1556) NOTE: This email document and attachments are covered by CA Evidence Code

Re: Adventure - Or Colossal Cave Adventure

2010-02-24 Thread Jack . Hamilton
WYLBUR was used by Stanford and SLAC, and by some other academic institutions. There's a commercial version called SuperWylbur, http://www.superwylbur.com/, I think there was another commercial version called Interact from Online Business Systems, but Mr. Google is not being helpful on

Re: Need tool to zap core

2010-02-24 Thread Ed Gould
From: David Cole dbc...@colesoft.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wed, February 24, 2010 1:41:07 PM Subject: Re: Need tool to zap core It's not free, but z/XDC will do the trick. Even more, it can also zap storage that's been made read only (such as the PLPA,

CEEOPTS DD error message - when I'm not even using it!

2010-02-24 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Hi List, We're testing an OS upgrade from 1.7 to 1.10. We are running IDMS and when the DBA or developers try to run some of their programs in the main database address space, they are getting language environment errors. The errors are not showing up in the z/OS log or job output from the

Re: Adventure - Or Colossal Cave Adventure

2010-02-24 Thread zMan
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 7:44 PM, jack.hamil...@kp.org wrote: snip I think there was a version that offloaded some of the work to a 7171 controller. That's quite enough of THAT kind of talk. Some of us have permanent scars from those machines. :-)

Re: Need tool to zap core

2010-02-24 Thread Glen Gasior
I had to call my dad to find out what was meant by core. On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Pinnacle pinnc...@rochester.rr.comwrote: I have a need to zap core, but my client does not have OMEGAMON. I searched the CBT mods tape and came up empty. What we're trying to do is a SETPROG LPA,ADD,

Re: Need tool to zap core

2010-02-24 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
glen.manages@gmail.com (Glen Gasior) writes: I had to call my dad to find out what was meant by core. what is old is new again: http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2010/02/24/2828135.htm 2010 International Conference On Nanoscience and Nanotechnology http://www.ausnano.net/iconn2010/ --

Re: Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer

2010-02-24 Thread Clark Morris
On 24 Feb 2010 14:53:28 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: In 4b80038c.1050...@gmail.com, on 02/20/2010 at 10:45 AM, Gabriel Tully gjtu...@gmail.com said: The days of the typical MVS administrator wearing a lab coat are over. No. They would have had tohaveto existed at some time in

NY Metro NaSPA Chapter Meeting, Tuesday, 2 March, 2010, NYC

2010-02-24 Thread Mark Nelson
The next meeting of the NY Metro NaSPA Chapter will be on Tuesday, 2 March 2010 in room 1219 at the IBM Building at 590 Madison Avenue, New York City, from 10:00 AM until 4:30 PM. We have a full-day of great sessions planned, including: An Introduction to LDAP on z/OS, Jon Furminger, LDAP

Re: LPARs: More or Less?

2010-02-24 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:50:02 -0500, George Henke gahe...@gmail.com wrote: I never considered storage fencing as a possible justification for LPARs, but maybe that is it? If so, then even that justification has now been eliminated with 64-bit central storage. George, you keep looking at the