Re: TSO Profile NUM and PACK

2011-05-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 3 May 2011 11:38:21 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >In , on 05/03/2011 > at 09:35 AM, Paul Gilmartin said: > >>I've long wondered, if sequence numbers are so valuable, why haven't >>they spread outside the progeny of unit record systems? > >

Re: TSO Profile NUM and PACK

2011-05-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 3 May 2011 11:58:15 -0400, Scott Rowe wrote: > >If he explained what he was talking about, then he wouldn't be able to keep >telling you that you are wrong! > That's a fallacy which I can refute by citing John G. (and lately Chris M.) as counterexamples. -- gil ---

Re: Editing Unicode Files in z/OS?

2011-05-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 3 May 2011 10:25:29 -0400, Rob Schramm wrote: >I had been using Putty connecting via openssh, tagging the file, setting the >_BPXK_AUTOCVT=ON and editing with vi for quick edits. For longer ones I >would SFTP it in binary to Ultraedit, fix it up and SFTP it back. > >On Tue, May 3, 2011 at

Re: TSO Profile NUM and PACK

2011-05-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 3 May 2011 09:03:12 -0500, John McKown wrote: >Then explain them to this poor fool. I find them to be a useless >anachronism. And your answers tend to be so short as to be unhelpful. > PACK, surely. Nowadays, that function is best left to microcode in the DASD subsystem so it can be trans

Re: IKJEFT01

2011-05-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 3 May 2011 06:14:08 -0700, Bill Johnson wrote: >I'm trying to run a TSO command using IKJEFT01 but I want the command to work >on >a dataset. Possible? > "work on" is pretty vague. Clarify. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subsc

Re: An unnecessary controversy (Was: Ported tools for z/OS on ADCD)

2011-05-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 2 May 2011 09:25:51 -0400, Chicklon, Thomas wrote: >OK, you win. USS is officially only to be used when speaking of VTAM's >table thing. > >So, if you (and some others I'm sure) want to preserve the purity of the >acronym USS, good for you. Don't misuse it. Just leave the rest of us >out o

Re: SMPPTS run out of Space (another approach)

2011-04-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 10:41:10 -0700, Dick Bond wrote: >*Exactly! *This is the correct way of doing RSU maintenance upgrades. >It also solves some of the objections to the way RESTORE works as well. >There are those who say they never ACCEPT maintenance which will cause a lot >of problems which

Re: SMPPTS run out of Space (another approach)

2011-04-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 00:31:12 -0400, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: >At 18:08 -0500 on 04/29/2011, Rick Fochtman wrote about Re: SMPPTS >run out of Space (another approach): > >>I'm sure the SMP/E Team would appreciate ny suggestions you might have. > >They have proven to be unwilling to fix a poor/bro

Re: Strange BALR 31 bit mode experince

2011-04-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 15:10:42 -0400, Micheal Butz wrote: > >Just saw something really strange > >BALR R14,R15. > >Didn't update the high order bit of R14 > What was the addressing mode in effect? What was the subsequent content of 14? ("Didn't update" leaves considerable ambiguity.) Eileen's cita

Re: Message Pop up

2011-04-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 01:04:20 -0400, Dave Salt wrote: > >When you say "mainframe" are you talking about an ISPF session? If so, the >only way you can have something "constantly moving" is if the ISPF panel is >locked out and no user interaction can occur. Is that what you want to do? > This, of

Re: Hercules, friend or foe?

2011-04-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 21:39:02 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote: >On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Paul Gilmartin > >> It doesn't provide any z/OS training/experience. >> >> It's got to be slower than Linux/Intel, doesn't it? >> >Hercules / MVS 3.8 would p

Re: Hercules, friend or foe?

2011-04-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 10:11:23 +1000, Shane Ginnane wrote: >On Fri, Apr 29th, 2011 at 5:44 AM, "McKown, John" wrote: >... >> That's why my techie needs are now supplied by using and working with >> Linux/Intel (and hopefully Linux/ARM in the future). > >What about zLinux/Herc ?. No need for z/VM (al

Re: XMIT manager

2011-04-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 12:01:29 -0400, Barkow, Eileen wrote: >I do not see anything about XMIT running on the PC from HELP XMIT. >Where do you get the XMIT software to run on the pc? http://www.cbttape.org/njw/index.html >I hope that it does not use ICMP like (I think) ISPF WORKSTATION CONNECTI

Testing (was: ZIP and FTP)

2011-04-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
(Of course I'm pleased to see the LISTSERV up and running this morning.) On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 08:42:37 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: > >>Isn't DFDSS RECFM=U? That doesn't transfer well via a non-z intermediary. > >Yup, plus LRECL=0. The OP will find that out if he doesn't want to do a direct

Re: ZIP and FTP

2011-04-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 06:15:31 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: > >Try DFDSS dump to dump all your datasets. FTP that dump dataset in binary >format to your destination. Then you can do a RESTORE. > Isn't DFDSS RECFM=U? That doesn't transfer well via a non-z intermediary. >>Some of the mainframe s

Re: PDS multi-volume

2011-04-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:22:44 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: >>> >> Not to mention the vast numbr of OEM programs that would be "broken" by a >> change in the format of the answer from a NOTE request. > >IBM extended the size of the information returned by NOTE some time ago from >three-byte TTRs to fou

Re: PDS multi-volume

2011-04-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 22:04:13 +0200, R.S. wrote: > >Well... Probably I did not understand all the discussion above, but IMHO >there are no size limitations for PDS *or* PDSE. That means, both >flavors of dataset-with-members-inside can be single volume only, but >PDSE is limited only by the size of

Re: PDS multi-volume

2011-04-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 07:11:50 -0500, McKown, John wrote: >> -Original Message- >> [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL >> >> Neither PDS nor PDSE can be multi-volume. > >Very true. However, I wonder how acceptable it might be to use BPAM's PDS >emulation to store what wou

Re: Control date format using Rexx

2011-04-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 17:31:04 +0200, CUNY Yann wrote: >I have a dataset with a lot of date, in YYMMDD Format. > >I just want to verify that the dates indicated in the dataset are real : >120229 => OK >100229 => KO >101328 => KO > The Rexx DATE(,,) function has the ability to convert date formats.

Re: Mixing Auth and Non-Auth Modules

2011-04-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:40:03 -0500, McKown, John wrote: > >Now, being the weirdo that I am, I'd likely do my APF authorized work by using >the UNIX fork() and exec(), where I exec() a module which is in the UNIX >filesystem marked as APF authorized. Depending on what I need to do, I would >eithe

Re: Submit a series of jobs in or der aft er the pre v ious has complete dâ â

2011-04-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 14:25:30 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: >I guess that answers Paul's question. However, the application I'm >referring to was c. 1978. I'm sure we have many more ways to skin cats >these days except we are stuck with 255 steps and some number of DD >statements too. > The TASKLI

Re: Submit a series of jobs in order aft er the pre vious has completedâ

2011-04-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 05:54:11 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: >Isn't there a 255 step limit? I regularly hit this problem with >multi-step database backups/tape stacking type process. > I would expect your fingers would get tired before you could ever punch so many cards. But perhaps you have the l

Re: Submit a series of jobs in order aft er the pre v ious has completedâ â

2011-04-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 07:18:38 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: >This is an old recurring problem. Ditto for DD statement restrictions. > >I recall early in my career with IBM we had a homegrown job scheduler >which required that every DDNAME be unique because effectively it was >a single step job tha

PGM=WAIT (was: Submit a series of jobs in order ... )

2011-04-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 12:15:53 -0500, McKown, John wrote: > >No need for PGM=WAIT from from I can see: > >//WAIT EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,PARM='SH sleep 10s' > Yah, but PGM=WAIT probably executes faster. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: Submit a series of jobs in order after the previous has completed

2011-04-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 01:09:53 -0400, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: > >If I were doing it, I would slip a special job between Jobs 2 and 3. >It would have a /*VS V ,Online statement (if the JES2 Parms for >the Job Class allows in stream command issuance) and an IEFBR14 Step. >That step would allocat

Re: Submit a series of jobs in order after the previous has completed

2011-04-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 18:20:51 -0400, Dave Barry wrote: >The basic framework involves a control PDS with members named specifically >after each jobname. The member is deleted in the first step, then created >just before the step which submits the job's successor (conditioned upon >successful com

Re: Transmission files

2011-04-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 16:00:26 -0400, Dave Salt wrote: >> From: r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl >> How can I download my PDSE from mainframe to my PC and edit the later?You >> could use the ISPF Workstation Agent (WSA.EXE). > But that's Windows-centric. If I haven't Windows on my desktop, I'm SOL.

Re: Deleting post

2011-04-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 14:22:43 -0500, Ron Thomas wrote: > >I want to delete my posts from here, if so how to do the same? > Doesn't matter. Google will archive them, and they'll be accessible forever. see OLLIE NORTH PROFS. -- gil --

Re: Transmission files

2011-04-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 07:03:33 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote: > >2) Use FREE product TRSMAIN from IBM to compress your dataset > Or, for the daring and avant-garde, AMATERSE. >3) Create a DFDSS backup file > Then FTP to PC using BIN format > Use FTP to Upload to your target z/OS host >

Re: DSSCOPY and AIX?

2011-04-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 07:35:55 -0700, Schwarz, Barry A wrote: >The DSS manual clearly states you cannot change the number of qualifiers in a >DSN with wild cards; you must use a fully qualified (complete) DSN. > Is there a credible rationale for this irritating restriction? BTW, an Innovation repr

Re: Submit a series of jobs in order after the previous has completed

2011-04-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 07:44:33 -0500, Art Gutowski wrote: > >You can accomplish this in System Rexx as well, trapping RC before submitting >the next job. However, when I saw an example of this at my last shop, the >programmer chose, or was forced, to use ftp to submit the jobs to the internal >reade

Re: Submit a series of jobs in order after the previous has completed

2011-04-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 09:50:02 +0930, Patrick Welsh wrote: > >I have a situation where I want to submit 12 batch jobs in order, with an MVS >command to bring a volume online between jobs 2 and 3. > >I could ask Ops Support to use the automation product to set up some rules for >this, however as a

Re: Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS

2011-04-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:33:06 -0400, Dave Salt wrote: >> From: dick bond >> Our workstation IP addresses, even if fixed (like mine - most are not), >> cannot be accessed >> from z/OS. I would think most real-world shops are that way - if not, well, >> they may need to hire some networking personn

Re: Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS

2011-04-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:25:27 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > >>WSA sounds like a good candidate for SSL/SSH implementation, with >>port tunneling. I suppose they didn't do it that way. > >LU 6.2 and TCP/ My preference would be to do it as an X client on >z/OS; pretty much every PC OS thes

Re: AC (authorization code) change

2011-04-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 11:32:12 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: > >This has been a fundamental ingredient in the preservation of MVS >System Integrity from the very earliest days, and was a marked >difference from what came to be called SVS. If every module expecting >or willing to get control in an author

Re: Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS

2011-04-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:52:57 -0400, Barkow, Eileen wrote: >I cannot ping the PC IP address and WSA gives back RC=60, so I am assuming >that it is the firewall >(network people told me that it was ICMP in particular). > Yup. Ping requires ICMP. And PITA but, many firewall administrators operate

Re: Cobol and SMS question

2011-04-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 09:22:33 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > >FSVO error. A properly written assembler program will test DCBOFOPN >after the OPEN and either issue an error message or continue, >depending on whether the ddname is mandatory or optional. > Doesn't this require also that the p

Re: Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS

2011-04-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 09:45:05 -0400, Barkow, Eileen wrote: >I cannot connect from the pc to the mainframe - I was told that the fireall >was preventing ICMP traffic. >I just requested that the firewall be opened to allow ICMP traffic. > >But is there any other way around the firewall to connect t

Re: AC (authorization code) change

2011-04-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 20:49:44 +, john gilmore wrote: >Why do you think you cannot relink these modules with AC(1)? The binder >accepts its outputs, load modules or program objects, as inputs. The >operation is trivial. > ... Unless it was previously linked with the EDIT=NO option. -- gil

Re: REXX INCLUDE ?

2011-04-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 9 Apr 2011 20:39:00 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >In <96628b4e38a63543806ff5f9d93cb964037e981...@nihmlbx01.nih.gov>, on >04/06/2011 > at 07:00 AM, "Sambataro, Anthony (NIH/CIT) [E]" said: > >>stem. = 0 >>stem.0 = 10 > >>Will create a stem variable of 10 elements all with a val

Re: Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS

2011-04-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 15:52:37 -0700, Dick Bond wrote: >a couple of glitches - make sure have a "fixed" IP address for your >workstation (could be a big glitch in some shops) and also, if you are lucky WSA sounds like a good candidate for SSL/SSH implementation, with port tunneling. I suppose they

Re: REXX INCLUDE ?

2011-04-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 11:14:00 -0500, Jonathan Goossen wrote: >Here is the closest to an INCLUDE that I have found for interpreted REXX. >The following REXX snippet loads values from a file. > >/* load threshold values */ >"EXECIO * DISKR SCRTHRES (STEM @LOAD." >IF RC >0 THEN RETURN 13 >DO @I = 1 TO

Re: New job for mainframes: Cloud platform

2011-04-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 10:01:16 -0600, Mark Post wrote: > >>> Don't you just compile on your platform and run? >> >> No. > >I would have said "yes, for the most part." There are always people who do >silly things like put inline (Intel) assembler code in C source modules. The >people who pay attent

Re: REXX INCLUDE ?

2011-04-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 16:58:40 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >But only the *compiler*. If you don't have the compiler, or you prefer to >test "interpreted" and then compile, you will need to write your own program >to process a Rexx member and expand the %INCLUDEs. Grr. > Grr (in harmony). Som

Re: Serverpac GIMUNZIP - Solved

2011-04-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 16:40:35 -0400, Ken Porowski wrote: >My bad, I allocate SMPWKDIR as a TFS but went with the default -b 0 >which limits filesize to 2 Gig, reallocated with -b 1 and it worked >fine. > I'm curious: can the user create a TFS that lasts for the duration of a job, kind of like a tem

Re: REXX INCLUDE ?

2011-04-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 14:14:27 +0200, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) wrote: >>stem. = 0 >>stem.0 = 10 >> >>Will create a stem variable of 10 elements all with a value of zero. > >No. > >The first statement tells REXX to return the value "0" for any >read reference to a stem variable named like "stem" *i

Re: REXX INCLUDE ?

2011-04-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 07:00:45 -0400, Sambataro, Anthony (NIH/CIT) [E] wrote: >The REXX compiler offers an %INCLUDE statement. > >You can initialize an entire stem variable quickly, for example: > >stem. = 0 >stem.0 = 10 > >Will create a stem variable of 10 elements all with a value of zero. > No, it

Re: Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS

2011-04-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 5 Apr 2011 14:28:47 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote: >> >They can run about 300 Linux servers per IFL, and share much of the >disk space by mounting the Operating System Read only, and only have a >small amount of unique disk space per instance. > CMS does better than Linux and most other OSes in

Re: SMP/E BYPASS( HOLDSYS( ) )

2011-04-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 5 Apr 2011 12:10:53 -0700, Bill Johnson wrote: >The real apply when doing a bypass holdsys does not get a zero return code but >a 4. > I thought that lately there was an option to cause RC=0 in this case. But I can't find it in the manuals. -- gil ---

Re: Best way to multiply doublewords

2011-04-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 5 Apr 2011 11:22:29 -0400, Chris Craddock wrote: >On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Tom Marchant wrote: > >> It is worth noting that the system provides a 144-byte save area when >> a program is ATTACHed, as for example when a job step program is given >> control. > >true, and somewhat iron

Re: How/Why Is This Looping?

2011-04-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 05:29:26 -0500, Jan MOEYERSONS wrote: > >I've run your example here and it behaves exactly as I expected: >- the allocate dd(atomic) new delete dsn(TEMP.DUP1) fails because the >dataset already exists. >- the delete TEMP.DUP1 simply deletes it. >- the rename TEMP.DUP2 TEMP.DUP1

Re: DATACLASS

2011-04-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 21:04:07 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >In <029501cbf09d$743f5370$5cbdfa50$@hawkins1...@sbcglobal.net>, on >04/01/2011 > at 11:48 AM, Ron Hawkins said: > >>The IEFBR14 example from the original post is one example of a >>program that would allocate such a dataset. > >

SMP/E BYPASS( HOLDSYS( ) )

2011-04-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
Why do programmers use "BYPASS( HOLDSYS( ) )" rather than merely BYPASS( HOLDSYSTEM )? Are there some reason codes to which they particularly want to be alerted while others can be routinely bypassed by appearing in the list? What's the process? Perhaps first: APPLY CHECK BYPASS( HOLDSYS( ) )

Re: get filesize in C or Assembler

2011-04-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 11:14:42 +0200, Monika Amiss wrote: > >I'm wondering if there is a way to get the size of a temporary QSAM-Dataset >programmatically >without opening and seeking to the end of the file. The program, which needs >the size information >is written in C (and so can call Assembler)

Re: FTP question

2011-04-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 01:47:00 -0400, Steve Horein wrote: Does your proposal correctly handle the case where another job may create the data set during the window between the DIR and the PUT? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / si

Re: DFSMSHsm Enqueue

2011-04-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:03:41 -0400, DanD wrote: >We've just recently noticed and verified with GTF that HSM does an ENQ TEST >and if successful does an ENQ to obtain the SYSDSN resource for RECALL. >I knew that MIGRATE required the SYSDSN ENQ before performing it's task. > Doesn't this leave a timi

Re: FTP question

2011-04-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 11:53:37 -0700, Schwarz, Barry A wrote: >Possibly because the ftp rename command invokes the Unix mv command which then >assumes you really meant move. > I doubt it. The evidence: $ ftp mvs 220-FTPD1 IBM FTP CS V1R12 at MVS 18:58:45 on 2011-04-01. Remote system ty

Re: FTP question

2011-04-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 14:07:07 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >In , >on 03/31/2011 > at 07:34 AM, "McKown, John" said: > >>z/OS really needs a better ftp client. I wish we had one that is >>scriptable > > ... > >>much like IDCAMS is scriptable. > >? > IDCAMS has at least conditionals; the t

Re: How/Why Is This Looping?

2011-04-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 13:55:49 +0200, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) wrote: >>Afaik delete is done at unallocation of the dd. So the free command >>should follow the allocate one. But why not just deleteing the >>dataset without first allocating it? > My expectation was that if the DSN preexisted and was c

Re: FTP question

2011-03-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 07:34:27 -0500, McKown, John wrote: >> -Original Message- >> [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bernard Coeytaux >> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:57 AM >> >> We use the followings steps >> >> Del targetfilename.$TMP$ >> Put sourcefilename targetfiname.$TMP$ >

How/Why Is This Looping?

2011-03-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
A recent thread here mentioned "atomic rename" of Classic data sets. I don't think there is such a thing, but I tried to synthesize it with: //ATOMICJOB 505303JOB,'Paul Gilmartin', // MSGLEVEL=(1,1),REGION=0M //* //* Doc: Atomic rename. //* //USERCOUTPUT JESDS=A

Re: Summer Time, "state of art"

2011-03-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:58:44 +0200, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) wrote: > >Not directly answering your question, but do what Russia just >decided: Get rid of that stupid time change twice a year and >stick with summer time setting. I wish the EU would decide >likewise. > I'd not envision that working in

Re: Summer Time, "state of art"

2011-03-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 08:07:23 -0500, Chase, John wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of McKown, John >> >> T TIMEZONE=W.06 >> or >> T TIMEZONE=W.05 > >Windoze, Linux, et al (even z/VM) do that automatically. Why is it >(still) necessary to do it "m

Re: zIIPs and zAAPs

2011-03-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:42:49 +0200, Binyamin Dissen wrote: > >The security issue is allowing application programmers to write SRB code >(which implies the ability to update APF datasets). > I thought that zAAPs are for Java. Does this mean that applications programmers shouldn't write Java? Or th

Re: IEEE floating points

2011-03-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 13:47:27 +, john gilmore wrote: > > ... A rational that has a terminating decimal expansion may have a > non-terminating hexadecimal expansion and vice versa. > Not vice versa. Any number that has a terminating hexadecimal expansion has also a terminating decimal expansi

Re: SR might be palatable if (part 2, opening a new PMR) - of interest to anyone security conscious

2011-03-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:48:49 -0400, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: > >In FF, if you go to your preferences and select the content menu you >will find a check box that allows you to set the automatic image load >default to on or off. When off, images will not load but just show >place holders. Clicking

SDSF Prefix Macros?

2011-03-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
Now that there's a nice (FSVO) Rexx API to SDSF, it would be quite useful to be able to type a member name on a line of an SDSF output list and have SDSF execute that member of SYSEXEC, passing it a handle to the item selected. Is this possible? SDSF doesn't seem to have a prefix area big enough

Re: SR might be palatable if (part 4, "Multilingual")

2011-03-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 13:35:56 -0300, Clark Morris wrote: > >If I had the time and money I would go to the next Shareholders >meeting and suggest to the president that he contract with you >(Barbara) to manage the fixing of SR and making sure it is >24/7/365.24. IBM should be embarrassed to have som

Re: SR might be palatable if (part 2, opening a new PMR) - of interest to anyone security conscious

2011-03-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 08:02:27 -0500, Norbert Friemel wrote: >On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 07:17:33 -0500, Barbara Nitz wrote: > >>>safebrowsing.clients.google.com: Firefox uses Google's "Safe Browsing API" >>>http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/phishing-protection/ >>>Uncheck "Block reported attack sites/w

Re: creating mainframe bookmanager from pdf documents???

2011-03-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 15:09:57 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: >On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 15:05:43 -0500, Barry Merrill wrote: > >>You can search all pdf documents in a directory; >>open any pdf document and then use CTRL-SHIFT-F >>to open the SEARCH WINDOW that lets you select >>the directory and search all pd

Re: Why is WTO so much easier to use than better methods? (Was RE: Trouble Reading a Spanned File with an Assembler Pro

2011-03-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 19:03:43 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >In , on 03/17/2011 > at 07:24 AM, Paul Gilmartin said: > >>Not really. It's application dependent and wretchedly inconsistent. > >What is "it"? If you mean Unix System Services, then t

Re: Why is WTO so much e asier to u se than b e tter met ho ds?â

2011-03-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 16:51:49 -0700, Scott Ford wrote: > > ... I think the big issue is some of the documentation is so so, but lately it seems documentation is suffering, IMHO. > It appears that in the race to match the competion in features IBM has sacrificed its tradition of surpassing the compe

Re: Why is WTO so much e asier to u se than be tter met ho ds?

2011-03-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 14:46:24 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: >On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:40:09 -0500, McKown, John wrote: > >>Even if it doesn't go to a physical console, it still clutters up my SYSLOG. > >John, > >Does your HARDCOPY include ROUT=11? > I could see a conflict of conventions arising. Some p

Re: Why is WTO so much easier to use than better methods? (Was RE: Trouble Reading a Spanned File with an Assembler Program - Working Program)

2011-03-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 19:31:22 +0800, David Crayford wrote: > >In a non-zUnix environment stdout is SYSPRINT. So in TSO it writes to >the terminal and in batch to a SYSPRINT DD. If you >don't specify a SYSPRINT DD it will dynamically allocate a sysout data >set. I believe in CICS it writes to the lo

Re: SMP/E Diagnosing GIM45500S

2011-03-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 08:55:39 -0400, Kurt Quackenbush wrote: >I do believe if SMP/E could not start its Java program then you would >get a more specific message, like GIM69209S. However, is there anything > Alas, not so. I see only the: GIM69209S ** RECEIVE PROCESSING HAS FAILED BECAUSE PROGRAM

SMP/E Diagnosing GIM45500S

2011-03-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
My test system has no ICSF; I'm trying to use the Java surrogate. I get: GIM45500S ** VERIFICATION OF HASH VALUE OF FILE .../package/GIMPAF.XML FAILED. SMP/E WILL NOT RETRY FILE RETRIEVAL. GIM20501IRECEIVE PROCESSING IS COMPLETE. THE HIGHEST RETURN CODE WAS 12. It's probably my

Re: zPrime

2011-03-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
Attempting to correct the URL: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:20:59 -0500, Cheryl Walker wrote: >This product from Neon was the topic of several discussions two years ago. I >just sent out a Cheryl's List email about the current status - it's still in >the courts, but a summary judgment was just filed

Re: Day-light savings - dumb question

2011-03-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 07:52:07 -0500, Lizette Koehler wrote: >> I wanted to know how system programmers advance the mainframe server's clock >> ahead, during day-light savings? >> >> Do they change some SYS1.PARMLIB Member, to change the timezone. >> >> Quasar > >We always update the SYS1.PARMLIB(CL

Re: SMP/E GIM61903W from ACCEPT

2011-03-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 08:28:18 -0500, Kurt Quackenbush wrote: > >LMOD entries are created in a DLIB zone when link edit JCLIN is >processed during ACCEPT processing, but only if the the ACCJCLIN=YES >subentry is set for that DLIB zone. The default for ACCJCLIN is NO, but >I believe ServerPac sets it

SMP/E GIM61903W from ACCEPT

2011-03-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
A user reports receiving: GIM61903W LMOD WAS NOT DELETED BY SYSMOD xxx BECAUSE IT IS NOT IN THE dlib ZONE. when ACCEPT processes a ++DELETE MCS. It's only a warning, but apparently it matters to the user: he'd prefer not to inflict RC=4 on customers other than for the ++HOLD(SY

Re: z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker

2011-01-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 14:04:21 -0600, Ray Overby wrote: > > ..., if any integrity exposures were found, >they would have reported the vulnerabilities to IBM z/OS Development and >Development would have fixed them.That would just be the normal course >of business within IBM. >

Re: Second Reference to Temporary Data Set Fails

2011-01-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:14:50 -0800, Edward Jaffe wrote: > >It fails with: > >IEF212I JCLERROR IGMLENU SYSUT2 - DATA SET NOT FOUND > >If it can find the data set for SYSUT1, then why can't it find it for SYSUT2? >It >works fine when a normal cataloged data set is used. It fails only with a >tempora

Re: Second Reference to Temporary Data Set Fails

2011-01-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 22:46:47 -0600, John McKown wrote: >That's what I do: > >//SYSUT1 DD DSN=&&DSN,DISP=(OLD,PASS) >//SYSUT2 DD DSN=*.SYSUT1,DISP=(OLD,PASS), >// UNIT=AFF=SYSUT1, >// VOL=REF=*.SYSUT1 > I frequently do this to create SYSEXEC (DISP=NEW) as a temp DS; populate it with an

Re: Long-r unning job s, PDS, an d DISP=SHR

2011-01-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:06:03 +, john gilmore wrote: >Scott Rowe writes: > > >... > > > ... he is saying that it is better to have an enq with major and minor qnames > that cast their net too widely than to have no enq at all. > > ... true; but it is not nearly so interesting as it sounds. I

Re: Long-running jobs, PDS, and DISP=SHR

2011-01-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 22:13:52 -0500, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: > >Since there is a UCB= on the RESERVE the acknowledges that it knows >(ie: should know) the VOLSER, IMO not adding the VOLSER to the RNAME >is a case of "Foolish Consistency" (ie: Acting like SYSDSN). I think > Cui malo? The EXC ENQ

Re: Cataloged procedure misunderstanding

2011-01-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 06:51:18 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: > >1. Freeze the current list of DD keywords handled specially by START. START >is just doing PROC writers a favor that has outlived its usefulness. > It also saves the operator keystrokes and economizes use of the scarce space on the command

Re: Testing hardware RESERVE (was: no subject)

2011-01-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:58:29 -0600, Walt Farrell wrote: >On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:56:51 +, john gilmore wrote: > >>I suggest that Mr. Rowe conduct a simple experiment, as I just did. Bind a >set of object modules into library >>A and write something into dataset B, located on the same notional

Re: Long-running jobs, PDS, and DISP=SHR

2011-01-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:53:25 -0500, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: > >As a side note: Since the ENQ is done as the program executes, I >think that the ENQ is not granular enough to target the "correct" >RNAME since it probably uses just the DSN not the more focused >DSN+VOLSER that would not lockout up

Re: Long-r unning job s, PDS, an d DISP=S HR â

2011-01-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:01:35 -0500, Scott Rowe wrote: >The Linkedit/Binder still uses a hardware reserve. > Isn't there a capability in GRS (or am I thinking of MIM) to convert a RESERVE to an ENQ? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscri

Re: Cataloged procedure misunderstanding

2011-01-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:05:32 -0600, Chris Mason wrote: > >> Poor design IMHO. > +1 >In other words - in principle - I agree. There is an excuse in that the poor >developers have had constantly to try to deal with the fact that there is a >continuum of JCL including procedure override capabilities

Re: SV: SV: If Else JCL question

2011-01-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:37:38 +0100, Thomas Berg wrote: > >My main dislike with IF..THEN etc. is that the resulting JCL >is not easy to read (for me at least). With a keyword at >each EXEC it is at least more compact. And You don't have to > FSVO "easy to read" and "compact". Compare CM Poncelet'

Re: Long-running jobs, PDS, and DISP=SHR

2011-01-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 06:30:12 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: > >1. Is it safe to copy or link/bind another program into the same PDS >specifying DISP=SHR? >//SYSLMOD DD DSN=MYLIBE(PROGB),DISP=SHR > >2. Is it safe to copy or link/bind PROGA into the same PDS? >//SYSLMOD DD DSN=MYLIBE(PROGA),DISP=SHR >

Re: SV: If Else JCL question

2011-01-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:28:51 +0100, Thomas Berg wrote: >I would have preferred something like this instead of the delivered IF..THEN >logic: > >//S050 EXEC WHATEVER,RUNIF=(RC,LE,4,S010) >RUNIF=(RC,8,S010) >RUNIF=(RUN,S020) >

Re: If Else JCL question

2011-01-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 08:08:32 -0600, Robert Birdsall wrote: >Similar to Gil's reply - skip if you've had enough... >... >// IF (STEPA.RC = 4 AND STEPB.RC = 0 AND STEPC.RUN = FALSE AND >// STEPD.RC = 8 AND STEPE.RUN = FALSE) OR >... > Is it permissible to omit the continuation mark in co

Re: If Else JCL question

2011-01-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
ot execute, STEPB sets CC=00, STEPC sets CC=04, STEPD sets >CC=08 and STEPE sets either CC=04 or CC=08 >otherwise do not execute STEPF. > OK: // //IFELSEJOB 505303JOB,'Paul Gilmartin', // MSGLEVEL=(1,1),REGION=0M //* //USERCOUTPUT JESDS=ALL,DEFAULT=YES, // CLASS=R,P

Re: If Else JCL question

2011-01-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 11:16:46 +1100, Shane Ginnane wrote: >I usually keep an IEFBR15 laying around for test purposes. >And like Eds', this does as advertised. >Best to keep such away from your "incident manager" ;-) > By "as advertised", do we mean: IEFBR15 CSECT BR15

Re: HBBN700 and SMPWRK6

2011-01-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:42:14 -0800, Gibney, Dave wrote: > I haven't moved to using this thing yet. > I generally try to put RSU maintenance on for everything, so that if I >need to use it, it will be up to date. > This hurking monster is blowing away (E37) my SMPWRK6. I mostly have >MOD 3s. And

Re: If Else JCL question

2011-01-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 20:04:08 +, CM Poncelet wrote: >But one of the most useful purposes of COND= testing is >COND=(0,LE,) ... which ensures the current jobstep will NOT >execute unless previous jobstep did NOT execute. So 'NOT >logic' can still do what 'IF ELSE etc.' cannot. CP > What am I m

Re: If Else JCL question

2011-01-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:22:36 -0500, Mark Pace wrote: >One thing I've been taught since I was in school 30+ years ago. Do not use >NOT logic. COND goes against everything I've worked at my entire career. > Assemblerthink. Or maybe BASICthink. The IF ... GOTO ... paradigm tersified and carried t

Re: digitize old hardcopy manuals

2011-01-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 09:37:29 -0500, Eric Spencer wrote: >you can upload a pdf to evernote and it will be indexed and made searchable. >there are some size limitations on the free subscription... > And it appears that Evernote Premium may be required for OCR. -- gil --

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