Re: Rexx command handlers implemented in Java and in ooRexx (Re: Rexx is quite cool, flexible, powerful, feature-rich, thank you! (Re: z/OS 3.1 Enhancements & Support News

2024-07-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
אֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Rony G. Flatscher Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2024 10:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Rexx command handlers implemented in Java and in ooRexx (Re: Rexx is quite cool, flexible, powerful, fea

Re: Rexx command handlers implemented in Java and in ooRexx (Re: Rexx is quite cool, flexible, powerful, feature-rich, thank you! (Re: z/OS 3.1 Enhancements & Support News

2024-07-02 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
, it includes ooRexx, Jean Louis Faucher's powerfull oorexxshell and among other packages also the ooRexx Java bindings with its documentation and all its samples (there is a new bundle in the works that will have NetRexx on board and a new Rexx/ooRexx GUI debugger taking advantage of the Java

Re: Rexx command handlers implemented in Java and in ooRexx (Re: Rexx is quite cool, flexible, powerful, feature-rich, thank you! (Re: z/OS 3.1 Enhancements & Support News

2024-07-02 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
On 02.07.2024 15:08, Seymour J Metz wrote: What about function packages? What are you thinking about? ---rony -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the

Re: Rexx command handlers implemented in Java and in ooRexx (Re: Rexx is quite cool, flexible, powerful, feature-rich, thank you! (Re: z/OS 3.1 Enhancements & Support News

2024-07-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
ourceforge.net/projects/bsf4oorexx/files/GA/BSF4ooRexx-850.20240304-GA/BSF4ooRexx_install_v850-20240620-refresh.zip/download>, >unblock and unzip it. Then go into the subdirectory > for the >Java version and to > > for the ooRexx version. -- gil ---

Re: Rexx command handlers implemented in Java and in ooRexx (Re: Rexx is quite cool, flexible, powerful, feature-rich, thank you! (Re: z/OS 3.1 Enhancements & Support News

2024-07-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Rexx command handlers implemented in Java and in ooRexx (Re: Rexx is quite cool, flexible, powerful, feature-rich, thank you! (Re: z/OS 3.1 Enhancements & Support News On 01.07.2024 20:45, Phil Smith III wrote: > Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> Lack of clo

Re: Rexx command handlers implemented in Java and in ooRexx (Re: Rexx is quite cool, flexible, powerful, feature-rich, thank you! (Re: z/OS 3.1 Enhancements & Support News

2024-07-02 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
hen go into the subdirectory for the Java version and to for the ooRexx version. ---rony -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Rexx command handlers implemented in Java and in ooRexx (Re: Rexx is quite cool, flexible, powerful, feature-rich, thank you! (Re: z/OS 3.1 Enhancements & Support News

2024-07-02 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
an interface to enable this. The tricky part with Classic Rexx would be variable passing, but Pipes demonstrates that it's quite doable. I think it'd be easier with OORexx, no? You can implement Rexx command handlers for ooRexx e.g. in C, C++, Java and ... ooRexx. The Java bindings for ooRexx has

Rexx command handlers implemented in Java and in ooRexx (Re: Rexx is quite cool, flexible, powerful, feature-rich, thank you! (Re: z/OS 3.1 Enhancements & Support News

2024-07-02 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
++, Java and ... ooRexx. The Java bindings for ooRexx has a sample demonstrating how to do that in ooRexx only, see "samples\Java\handlers\commandHandlers\30_java_starter850\rexxonly". This is what index.html in that directory says about this sample: RunRexxProgram.rex An ooRe

Is there a Java takesocket method?

2024-01-17 Thread Steve Austin
I have an assembler program using ‘givesocket’ to give a socket to another address space running a REXX using ‘takesocket’; this works fine. I’d like to replace the REXX with a Java app, but I’ve not yet found a Java takesocket method. My Java app is currently using java.net.ServerSocket

IntelliJ Rexx plugin (Re: JAVA IDE

2023-08-24 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
wrote: 100% agree with Kirk. IntelliJ IDEA is head and shoulders the best Java IDE. I’ve mostly been coding in Java for the last few years and use the Ultimate edition which is quite expensive but worth every penny. We also use the Jetbrains CLion IDE for C/C++ and Python. I’ve recently been pla

Re: JAVA IDE

2023-08-23 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 24/08/2023 3:11 am, Kirk Wolf wrote: To answer you question, for a real Java IDE, Java programmers generally believe that IntelliJ is the best and that's hard to argue with.I've used Eclipse for a really long time. If you are doing z/OS Java development, it's generally best

Re: JAVA IDE

2023-08-23 Thread David Crayford
On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 10:07:57 AM CDT, Steve Beaver > <050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > I can believe that I'm asking this question. > > > > > > What is the best/most friendly JAVA IDE? > > > > > > S

Re: JAVA IDE

2023-08-23 Thread Rahim Azizarab
Eclipse is free. regards; Rahim    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 10:07:57 AM CDT, Steve Beaver <050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: I can believe that I'm asking this question. What is the best/most friendly JAVA IDE?

Re: JAVA IDE

2023-08-23 Thread David Crayford
100% agree with Kirk. IntelliJ IDEA is head and shoulders the best Java IDE. I’ve mostly been coding in Java for the last few years and use the Ultimate edition which is quite expensive but worth every penny. We also use the Jetbrains CLion IDE for C/C++ and Python. I’ve recently been playing

Re: JAVA IDE

2023-08-23 Thread Kirk Wolf
BTW: ibm-main is probably the worst place to ask :-) Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies To answer you question, for a real Java IDE, Java programmers generally believe that IntelliJ is the best and that's hard to argue with.I've used Eclipse for a really long time. If you are doing z

Re: JAVA IDE

2023-08-23 Thread Seymour J Metz
Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Steve Beaver [050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2023 11:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: JAVA IDE I can believe that I'm asking this question. What is the best/most friendl

Re: JAVA IDE

2023-08-23 Thread Cameron Conacher
:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: JAVA IDE I can believe that I'm asking this question. What is the best/most friendly JAVA IDE? Steve -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

JAVA IDE

2023-08-23 Thread Steve Beaver
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XMITMSGX release 2.1.5 for C, Regina Rexx, ooRexx, Java

2023-08-01 Thread Rick Troth
Thanks to help from Sir Dave the Generous, we confirmed that the XMITMSGX Rexx support built with Regina works just fine with ooRexx. Yay! I had been trying to build against ooRexx expecting some linkage differences, but *someone* in ooRexx land made things compatible between ooRexx and

Re: [EXT] Re: Invoke Java from Assembler

2023-07-13 Thread Kirk Wolf
On Thu, Jul 13, 2023, at 8:06 AM, Crawford Robert C (Contractor) wrote: > Denis, > > Thank you for the detailed answer. I'll start looking into your suggestions. > > I may be misunderstanding your question, but we would like a persistent JVM > so the assembler code can

Re: [EXT] Re: Invoke Java from Assembler

2023-07-13 Thread Crawford Robert C (Contractor)
Denis, Thank you for the detailed answer. I'll start looking into your suggestions. I may be misunderstanding your question, but we would like a persistent JVM so the assembler code can call Java classes as subroutines. Creating and terminating a JVM for each call would be prohibitively

Re: [EXT] Re: Invoke Java from Assembler

2023-07-12 Thread Denis
and e.g. PL/I you do that by yourself and the environment for the JVM is pointed to by _CEE_ENVFILE) and with that JVM pointer you can do any number of JNI calls (e.g. call Java methods) and after each call the calling program is returned control. The JNIEnvPtr will be valid as long as the JVM

Re: [EXT] Re: Invoke Java from Assembler

2023-07-12 Thread Steve Austin
A few years back I ran up an assembler program that used CELQPIPI(64-bit PIPI) to do this, but the assembler program called C routines via PIPI to do the real work; the C routines contained Java JNI code. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN

Re: [EXT] Re: Invoke Java from Assembler

2023-07-12 Thread Crawford Robert C (Contractor)
Thanks, Allan. Back in the 90's I used CEEPIPI to create a persistent C enclave I could call from Assembler because building the environment is expensive. Unfortunately, CEEPIPI documentation is kind of scarce. What we do find doesn't give us very many clues for how to get to Java. Robert

Re: Invoke Java from Assembler

2023-07-11 Thread allan winston
Robert, This reminds me of a situation I ran into 25 years ago involving assembler and COBOL. Granted, COBOL and Java are different environments, but there may be enough similarity in the issues to be relevant. We had an assembler main program that called a COBOL subroutine repeatedly

Re: Invoke Java from Assembler

2023-07-11 Thread Kirk Wolf
If you need to launch the Java virtual machine and invoke methods, it will be *much* easier to use C or C++ since you need to use "JNI" and the include files are provided and you need a LE XPLINK linkage and runtime environment. I've done that and it works fine (both 31 and 64 bit SD

Invoke Java from Assembler

2023-07-11 Thread Crawford Robert C (Contractor)
We're interested in invoking Java from assembler in batch. Specifically, we'd like to create a persistent Java environment we can call repeatedly and terminate when we're through. Has anyone done this? Is the LE pre-initialization module CEEPIPI worth exploring? Thanks. Robert Crawford

Re: COBOL and the Java scripting framework ? (Re: Are there samples of COBOL methods or classes?

2023-06-30 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
in and then click "Product Documentation" thank you, Tom. Could get to <https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/611415#64> and from there to the programming guide at <https://publibfp.dhe.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/igy6pg40.pdf>. It seems that OO COBOL allows interacting with Java via JNI

COBOL and the Java scripting framework ? (Re: Are there samples of COBOL methods or classes?

2023-06-30 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
thank you, Tom. Could get to <https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/611415#64> and from there to the programming guide at <https://publibfp.dhe.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/igy6pg40.pdf>. It seems that OO COBOL allows interacting with Java via JNI (Java native interface) only. 6.4 adds the ab

Re: JAVA started tasks?

2023-06-27 Thread René Jansen
CICS also has a Java domain that is started as a resident part. René. > On 23 Jun 2023, at 20:45, Bill Giannelli wrote: > > Does JAVA have any started tasks on z/OS? > We have a task that the vendor says needs JAVA "up"

Re: JAVA started tasks?

2023-06-26 Thread Shawn Prenevost
Yes your java executables need to be mounted I'm not sure if that mean OMVS needs to be fully initialized... but Java would spawn USS task I imagine. On Sat, Jun 24, 2023, 9:18 AM Gord Tomlin wrote: > On 2023-06-23 19:08 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > > Does Java depend on OMVS?

Re: JAVA started tasks?

2023-06-24 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2023-06-23 19:08 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Does Java depend on OMVS? I've seen messages here about failures before OMVS was ready. Without OMVS, you won't be able to access /usr/lpp/java/J8.0_64/bin/java or similar. -- Regards, Gord Tomlin Action Software International (a division

Re: JAVA started tasks?

2023-06-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 14:29:51 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote: >I'm not sure what that even means. Java programs are run by just invoking >the JVM and specifying options on which class to run. The JZOS batch >launcher is a z/OS Utility program that will do that for you. There is n

Re: JAVA started tasks?

2023-06-23 Thread Shawn Prenevost
To me that sounds like OMVS must be initialized. On Fri, Jun 23, 2023, 2:36 PM René Jansen wrote: > Someone might mean WebSphere Application Server. > > Who knows what people think. > > René. > > > On 23 Jun 2023, at 21:30, Kirk Wolf wrote: > > > > I'm n

Re: JAVA started tasks?

2023-06-23 Thread René Jansen
Someone might mean WebSphere Application Server. Who knows what people think. René. > On 23 Jun 2023, at 21:30, Kirk Wolf wrote: > > I'm not sure what that even means. Java programs are run by just invoking > the JVM and specifying options on which class to run. Th

Re: JAVA started tasks?

2023-06-23 Thread Kirk Wolf
I'm not sure what that even means. Java programs are run by just invoking the JVM and specifying options on which class to run. The JZOS batch launcher is a z/OS Utility program that will do that for you. There is no "java subsystem" that needs to be started first. Kirk Wolf

Re: JAVA started tasks?

2023-06-23 Thread Phil Smith III
Bill Giannelli wrote: >Does JAVA have any started tasks on z/OS? >We have a task that the vendor says needs JAVA "up" first. Not that I know of. We run Java stuff without starting any STC. Maybe they have one?? ---

JAVA started tasks?

2023-06-23 Thread Bill Giannelli
Does JAVA have any started tasks on z/OS? We have a task that the vendor says needs JAVA "up" first. thanks Bill -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@lists

Takeaway from the mentioned book referring BLAS in context of Python, Java, C ... Re: Mainframe REXX (Re: Badmouthing Rexx and ooRexx - again (Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-03-01 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
On 01.03.2023 15:15, René Jansen wrote: Well yes - that is really apples and oranges, and thanks for proving my point. Numpy leverages hand tuned assembly (BLAS) with hinting for different chip levels and architectures, and the difference with plain python is shown

Re: Java And Specialty Engines

2022-08-13 Thread Martin Packer
How much JNI, though? That isn't zIIP eligible. Cheers, Martin > On 11 Aug 2022, at 23:07, Longnecker, Dennis > wrote: > > We run a lot of JAVA workloads under WebSphere Liberty on our z15. > > We are seeing hardly any utilization on our 2 specialty engines (ziip/za

Re: Java And Specialty Engines

2022-08-11 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 22:06:57 +, Longnecker, Dennis wrote: >We run a lot of JAVA workloads under WebSphere Liberty on our z15. > >We are seeing hardly any utilization on our 2 specialty engines (ziip/zaap). >It is my understanding that ALL java workload is eligible to run

Java And Specialty Engines

2022-08-11 Thread Longnecker, Dennis
We run a lot of JAVA workloads under WebSphere Liberty on our z15. We are seeing hardly any utilization on our 2 specialty engines (ziip/zaap). It is my understanding that ALL java workload is eligible to run under those engines, so it has left me confused. We are seeing some offloaded DB2

Re: Java (Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

2022-07-14 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
2022 17:45, David Crayford wrote: On 7/07/2022 7:53 pm, Rony G. Flatscher wrote: On 06.07.2022 11:03, Seymour J Metz wrote: ... cut ... There is one ecosystem that beats Perl, Python and practically any others: Java. For every problem domain, for new emerging technologies there are Java class libra

Re: Java (Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

2022-07-11 Thread David Crayford
ecosystem that beats Perl, Python and practically any others: Java. For every problem domain, for new emerging technologies there are Java class libraries which one can take advantage of. As Java classes get compiled to intermediate byte code, these Java class libraries can be deployed and used

Re: Java (Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

2022-07-10 Thread Rony
what >>>>> packages are available. >>>> >>>> Indeed Perl and Python have a great wealth of libraries available to them. >>>> >>>> There is one ecosystem that beats Perl, Python and practically any others: >>>> Java >>&g

Re: Java (Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

2022-07-10 Thread Rony
cut ... >>>> >>>> There is one ecosystem that beats Perl, Python and practically any others: >>>> Java. For every problem domain, for new emerging technologies there are >>>> Java class libraries which one can take advantage of. As Java classes get

Re: Java (Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

2022-07-08 Thread David Crayford
: Java According to http://www.modulecounts.com/ which shows the number of unique packages Methodology: "... Data is collected /by scraping the relevant websites /once a day via a cron job and then stored in a Postgresql database for later retrieval. Growth rates are calculated by aver

Re: BSF? [was: RE: Java (Re: Some questions on SYSCALL)]

2022-07-08 Thread CM Poncelet
"TSO/E Version 2 Procedures Language MVS/REXX, SC28-1883-1"   "Stop disingenuously picking on him." Is that so?   The "SYSCALL" in REXX is an ADDRESS SYSCALL under the covers - similar to ADDRESS IPCS/MVS/TSO/ISREDIT or whatever other else. It is the "ADDRESS" that belongs in REXX. "SYSCALL" is a

Re: Java (Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

2022-07-08 Thread David Crayford
On 8/07/2022 7:17 pm, Rony G. Flatscher wrote: On 07.07.2022 17:45, David Crayford wrote: On 7/07/2022 7:53 pm, Rony G. Flatscher wrote: On 06.07.2022 11:03, Seymour J Metz wrote: ... cut ... There is one ecosystem that beats Perl, Python and practically any others: Java. For every problem

Re: Java (Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

2022-07-08 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
not be the best language for the task at hand, but it pays to check what packages are available. Indeed Perl and Python have a great wealth of libraries available to them. There is one ecosystem that beats Perl, Python and practically any others: Java According to http://www.modulecounts.com

Re: Java (Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

2022-07-08 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
On 07.07.2022 17:45, David Crayford wrote: On 7/07/2022 7:53 pm, Rony G. Flatscher wrote: On 06.07.2022 11:03, Seymour J Metz wrote: ... cut ... There is one ecosystem that beats Perl, Python and practically any others: Java. For every problem domain, for new emerging technologies

Re: BSF? [was: RE: Java (Re: Some questions on SYSCALL)]

2022-07-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 02:38:38 +0100, CM Poncelet wrote: >Without meaning to bump into what might be off topic, SYSCALL is >actually a CLIST instruction - not a REXX one (unless it's a case of >"nous avons changé tout ça") >  When Charles started this thread on June 28, he made it clear that he

Re: Java (Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

2022-07-07 Thread David Crayford
at hand, but it pays to check what packages are available. Indeed Perl and Python have a great wealth of libraries available to them. There is one ecosystem that beats Perl, Python and practically any others: Java According to http://www.modulecounts.com/ which shows the number of unique

Re: BSF? [was: RE: Java (Re: Some questions on SYSCALL)]

2022-07-07 Thread CM Poncelet
Without meaning to bump into what might be off topic, SYSCALL is actually a CLIST instruction - not a REXX one (unless it's a case of "nous avons changé tout ça")   E.g. HELP_SELECT: + SELECT ()    WHEN (UP) DO SET HPAN = - 1 *SYSCALL*

Re: BSF? [was: RE: Java (Re: Some questions on SYSCALL)]

2022-07-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Paul Gilmartin [042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 2:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: BSF? [was: RE: Java (Re: Some questions

Re: BSF? [was: RE: Java (Re: Some questions on SYSCALL)]

2022-07-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
(This thread should move to comp.lang.advocacy.) On Thu, 7 Jul 2022 16:40:08 +, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: >OK, I'll bite: What is BSF please? I do know of PCRE (though I really do not >like the Perl RE syntax, I prefer Posix/gawk RE syntax) but BSF is a new >acronym to me. > I try to

Re: BSF? [was: RE: Java (Re: Some questions on SYSCALL)]

2022-07-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
bsf4oorexx is a bridge between oorexx and java; it lets an oorexx programmer use java classes and methods. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Farley

BSF? [was: RE: Java (Re: Some questions on SYSCALL)]

2022-07-07 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Java (Re: Some questions on SYSCALL BSF has been available for a long time; why doesn't every Rexx programmer know about it and PCRE? Thanks for putting in the work. -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee

Re: Java (Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

2022-07-07 Thread David Crayford
last as long as there is nothing better to replace them. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all=%2Fm%2F05zrn There is one ecosystem that beats Perl, Python and practically any others: Java. For every problem domain, for new emerging technologies there are Java class libraries which

Re: Java (Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

2022-07-07 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
On 07.07.2022 14:54, Seymour J Metz wrote: Which of these has Java equivalents? use charnames qw(:short); use File::Spec; use Getopt::Long 2.3203 qw(:config auto_help auto_version); use IO::File; use Net::DNS; use MIME::Parser; use MIME::QuotedPrint; use MIME::Tools; use

Re: Java (Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

2022-07-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
Which of these has Java equivalents? use charnames qw(:short); use File::Spec; use Getopt::Long 2.3203 qw(:config auto_help auto_version); use IO::File; use Net::DNS; use MIME::Parser; use MIME::QuotedPrint; use MIME::Tools; use Regexp::Common qw /net URI/; use Regexp::Common::URI

Java (Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

2022-07-07 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
, but it pays to check what packages are available. Indeed Perl and Python have a great wealth of libraries available to them. There is one ecosystem that beats Perl, Python and practically any others: Java. For every problem domain, for new emerging technologies there are Java class libraries

Re: Java?

2022-07-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
du/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Andrew Rowley [and...@blackhillsoftware.com] Sent: Monday, July 4, 2022 7:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Java? On 4/07/2022 9:17 pm, Seymour J Metz wrote: > And you guaranty that every

Re: Java?

2022-07-04 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 4/07/2022 9:17 pm, Seymour J Metz wrote: And you guaranty that every installation is using BPX.UNIQUE.USER? If you believe that every z/OS installation is correctly configured then I have a bridge that I'd like to sell you. It was just the other day that Bill Schoen was saying that MVS

Re: Java?

2022-07-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Radoslaw Skorupka [r.skoru...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 6:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Java? W dniu 30.06.2022 o 19:49, Tony Harminc pisze: > On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 at 09:45, Paul Gilmar

Re: Java?

2022-07-01 Thread David Crayford
JZOS does. It flips a magic bit. > On 2 Jul 2022, at 10:52 am, Ed Jaffe wrote: > > On 7/1/2022 4:26 PM, David Crayford wrote: >> The fact that the JNI code is offloaded to a zIIP is extra goodness. > > Your JNI code runs on zIIP? > > Ours does not seem to do so... > > > -- > Phoenix

Re: Java?

2022-07-01 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 7/1/2022 4:26 PM, David Crayford wrote: The fact that the JNI code is offloaded to a zIIP is extra goodness. Your JNI code runs on zIIP? Ours does not seem to do so... -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245

Re: Java?

2022-07-01 Thread David Crayford
pm, Kirk Wolf wrote: "dubbing" basically means that a TCB gets assigned a z/OS UNIX pid.If you run z/OS Java under a batch address space (like with the JZOS batch launcher), then dubbing will occur since the JVM is written in C and uses z/OS Unix services. Actually in this cas

Re: Java?

2022-07-01 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 30.06.2022 o 19:49, Tony Harminc pisze: On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 at 09:45, Paul Gilmartin < 042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 10:47:59 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: I believe that Java in z/OS requires dubbing It's also available in Linu

Re: Java?

2022-06-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 13:49:09 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: >On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 at 09:45, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > >> Why is "requires dubbing" a thing? > >Because it can fail? > Lots of things can fail. >But perhaps more serious for Java on z/OS is that as far

Re: Java?

2022-06-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
[042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2022 9:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Java? On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 10:47:59 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >I believe that Java in z/OS requires dubbing It's also available in Linux. Off >the mainframe, it's also ava

Re: Java?

2022-06-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2022 1:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Java? On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 09:55:08 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote: >"dubbing" basically means that a TCB gets assigned a z/OS UNIX pid.If you >run z/OS Java under a batch add

Re: Java?

2022-06-30 Thread Tony Harminc
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 at 09:45, Paul Gilmartin < 042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 10:47:59 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > >I believe that Java in z/OS requires dubbing It's also available in > Linux. Off the mainframe, it's also

Re: Java?

2022-06-30 Thread David Spiegel
NIX pid. If you run z/OS Java under a batch address space (like with the JZOS batch launcher), then dubbing will occur since the JVM is written in C and uses z/OS Unix services. Actually in this case it would be the JZOS batch launcher program that would be dubbed since it uses z/OS Uni

Re: Java?

2022-06-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 09:55:08 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote: >"dubbing" basically means that a TCB gets assigned a z/OS UNIX pid.If you >run z/OS Java under a batch address space (like with the JZOS batch launcher), >then dubbing will occur since the JVM is written in C

Re: Java?

2022-06-30 Thread Kirk Wolf
"dubbing" basically means that a TCB gets assigned a z/OS UNIX pid.If you run z/OS Java under a batch address space (like with the JZOS batch launcher), then dubbing will occur since the JVM is written in C and uses z/OS Unix services. Actually in this case it would be the

Re: Java?

2022-06-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 10:47:59 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >I believe that Java in z/OS requires dubbing It's also available in Linux. Off >the mainframe, it's also available for many PC and server systems. > Why is "requires dubbing"

Re: Java?

2022-06-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
I believe that Java in z/OS requires dubbing It's also available in Linux. Off the mainframe, it's also available for many PC and server systems. Learning as new language is always goodness, if you have the time, especially if you get hit with a new requirement in the future. -- Shmuel

Re: [EXTERNAL] Java?

2022-06-29 Thread Pommier, Rex
Bob, No, we run a small amount of java as straight batch. One example is the IBM SCRT monthly processing. Straight batch job: //JAVAJVM EXEC PGM=JVMLDM86,REGION=0M,PARM='/ com.ibm.scrt.SCRTe ' Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bob Bridges

Java?

2022-06-29 Thread Bob Bridges
I really gotta learn Java. If five belts around my waist are good, six would be even better. But mostly I stick to languages that my clients already have, and even better if possible, know how to maintain. Where is Java usable? On the mainframe, only Unix, right? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid

Re: An ooRexx sample for the Java sample program ... (Re: Some UNIX file usage questions

2022-06-23 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
be replaced with the actual function you wanted to perform. Ah, I see what you meant! This is a simple example, there are also more complex ways of interrupting/stopping a thread in Java than periodically checking a status. Sure. Maybe a few comments what I intended to show followed by an ooRexx

Re: An ooRexx sample for the Java sample program ... (Re: Some UNIX file usage questions

2022-06-22 Thread Andrew Rowley
to perform. This is a simple example, there are also more complex ways of interrupting/stopping a thread in Java than periodically checking a status. -- Andrew Rowley Black Hill Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: An ooRexx sample for the Java sample program ... (Re: Some UNIX file usage questions

2022-06-22 Thread Seymour J Metz
/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Rony G. Flatscher [rony.flatsc...@wu.ac.at] Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 7:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: An ooRexx sample for the Java sample program ... (Re

An ooRexx sample for the Java sample program ... (Re: Some UNIX file usage questions

2022-06-22 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
Hi Andrew, thank you for this Java program. I took the liberty to transform it to ooRexx (untested) which should do the same as your Java program:    /* load the Java class into ooRexx, it will understand ooRexx messages */ MvsConsole = bsf.loadClass("com.ibm.jzos.MvsCo

Re: New Java vulnerability

2021-12-15 Thread Jim Taylor
, Dave Jousma wrote: >On Tue, 14 Dec 2021 10:19:08 -0600, Dave Jousma wrote: > > >> >>you bring up a good point. there are hits for this in base JAVA V8 both >>31bit and 64bit, so consequently, any JAVA based app could be using, without >>actually including the

Re: New Java vulnerability

2021-12-15 Thread Support, DUNNIT SYSTEMS LTD.
As Yogi Berra said, "It ain't over till it's over." https://www.lunasec.io/docs/blog/log4j-zero-day-update-on-cve-2021-45046/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: New Java vulnerability

2021-12-14 Thread Art Gutowski
On Tue, 14 Dec 2021 00:23:21 -0500, Cheryl Watson wrote: >Hi all, > >SAS uses Java and has issued a blog post. Many SAS products use Java and are >susceptible to this exposure. Each site should ensure that all SAS users and >the Security staff are made aware of this. Please

Re: New Java vulnerability

2021-12-14 Thread Dave Jousma
On Tue, 14 Dec 2021 10:19:08 -0600, Dave Jousma wrote: > >you bring up a good point. there are hits for this in base JAVA V8 both 31bit >and 64bit, so consequently, any JAVA based app could be using, without >actually including their own copy of log4j. That also means th

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: New Java vulnerability

2021-12-14 Thread Pommier, Rex
DU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: New Java vulnerability On 12/12/21 6:37 am, Attila Fogarasi wrote: > not so difficult on z/OS (and there is log4j usage on z/OS but unclear > that RCE can do much harm on a properly secured z/OS system -- this > will vary by what application is using the log4j

Re: New Java vulnerability

2021-12-14 Thread Phil Smith III
Itschak wrote: > I agree. However, the reason we offer such scan is that there other vendor >products installed in uss. It is not ibm only issue. The second one is >attitude. Remember the days of Spectre? Ibm never admitted they have it >until they had a solution and clients was unsure if they

Re: New Java vulnerability

2021-12-14 Thread Dave Jousma
/removed to clear up the >false positive. you bring up a good point. there are hits for this in base JAVA V8 both 31bit and 64bit, so consequently, any JAVA based app could be using, without actually including their own copy of log4j. That also means that the local workaround is a bit more di

Re: New Java vulnerability

2021-12-14 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Phil, I agree. However, the reason we offer such scan is that there other vendor products installed in uss. It is not ibm only issue. The second one is attitude. Remember the days of Spectre? Ibm never admitted they have it until they had a solution and clients was unsure if they are in risk or

Re: New Java vulnerability

2021-12-14 Thread Phil Smith III
Making things even more confusing, there are lots of ways to use log4j, only some of which expose this vulnerability. For example, Splunk uses it, but says the exploit matters on "All supported non-Windows versions of 8.1.x and 8.2.x only if Hadoop (Hunk) and/or DFS are used." It appears that

Re: New Java vulnerability

2021-12-14 Thread Dave Jousma
There is a IBM webinar spinning up for 12/15 IBM Security is hosting a client webinar about Log4Shell on Wednesday, December 15, 11 a.m. ET. Our X-Force team will review the implications of Log4Shell, who may be impacted, and steps clients can take to protect themselves today and in the

Re: New Java vulnerability

2021-12-14 Thread Itschak Mugzach
N@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: New Java vulnerability > > wt., 14 gru 2021 o 16:23 Cheryl Watson > napisał(a): > > > > > Does IBM have anything to say about this? I assume it's on their > > security portal. > > > > > https://www.ibm.com/blogs/psi

Re: New Java vulnerability

2021-12-14 Thread Cheryl Watson
Hi s1m0n, Thanks so much! Cheryl -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Filip Palian Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 12:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: New Java vulnerability wt., 14 gru 2021 o 16:23 Cheryl Watson napisał(a): > >

Re: New Java vulnerability

2021-12-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
ason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of David Crayford [dcrayf...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 1:54 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: New Java vulnerability On 14/12/21 12:12 pm, Andrew Rowley wr

Re: New Java vulnerability

2021-12-14 Thread Filip Palian
wt., 14 gru 2021 o 15:12 Andrew Rowley napisał(a): > On 14/12/2021 12:30 am, Filip Palian wrote: > > My intention was to share information about the vulnerabilities affecting > > Java language. (Without performing a proper comparison) I'd prefer not to > > get into discussi

Re: New Java vulnerability

2021-12-13 Thread David Crayford
On 14/12/21 12:12 pm, Andrew Rowley wrote: On 14/12/2021 12:30 am, Filip Palian wrote: My intention was to share information about the vulnerabilities affecting Java language. (Without performing a proper comparison) I'd prefer not to get into discussion about one language being less secure

Re: New Java vulnerability

2021-12-13 Thread Filip Palian
wt., 14 gru 2021 o 16:23 Cheryl Watson napisał(a): > > Does IBM have anything to say about this? I assume it's on their security > portal. > https://www.ibm.com/blogs/psirt/an-update-on-the-apache-log4j-cve-2021-44228-vulnerability/ Cheers, s1m0n

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