Re: wakeup (iucvmsg never receives output

2008-02-13 Thread Ivica Brodaric
Try 'WAKEUP +00:00 (IUCVMSG' just before 'CP SPXTAPE...' That sets the diversion as Rob already suggested. Add 'WAKEUP RESET' after the end of loop. Ivica

Re: Having trouble with re-installing CA-Librarian on z/VM 5.3

2008-02-13 Thread Jan Canavan
The users are on the 4.4 system still. We will try this. Thanks -Original Message- From: Rob van der Heij [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Feb 12, 2008 9:39 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Having trouble with re-installing CA-Librarian on z/VM 5.3 On Feb 12, 2008 8:17 PM, [EMAIL

Re: wakeup (iucvmsg never receives output

2008-02-13 Thread Ron Schmiedge
I wrote an exec to run on a disconnected service machine to dump the VM spool. It was a while ago, but I see I did a CP SET CPCONIO IUCV before the wakeup (iucvmsg loop. And a CP SET CPCONIO OFF before the wakeup (reset at the end of the loop. I am sure I read about this technique somewhere,

Re: Backup CMS files

2008-02-13 Thread Ed Zell
We want to have a good backup/restore process in place where we can backup minidisks/CMS files with the ability to restore any 1 or more individual files if we need to. What is everyone out there using? Brent, If you are looking for a no cost solution, I have a REXX EXEC that we have

Re: Backup CMS files

2008-02-13 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 02/13/2008 at 01:11 EST, Brent Litster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all. We are a new z/VM 5.2 shop. We are in the process of hardening our z/VM environment prior to installing our first production system. We want to have a good backup/restore process in place where we can

Re: Backup CMS files

2008-02-13 Thread Imler, Steven J
and ... as far as we (well, CA sales people) are concerned VM:Backup and HiDRO are a *single* product. You license VM:Backup and it comes with the VM:Backup HiDRO Feature! So between that product you have lots of options for configuring and addressing your z/VM backup requirements. JR JR

Re: Backup CMS files

2008-02-13 Thread Mike Walter
Oops, Richard's correct. Change my mention of CA's Syback (an ancient name) to CA's HiDRO. Something was nagging me when I wrote that, Richard provided the confirmation why. :-) Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the

Re: Backup CMS files

2008-02-13 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
VM:Backup from CA (formerly Sterling) -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brent Litster Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 12:43 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Backup CMS files Hello all. We are a new z/VM 5.2 shop. We

Backup CMS files

2008-02-13 Thread Brent Litster
Hello all. We are a new z/VM 5.2 shop. We are in the process of hardenin g our z/VM environment prior to installing our first production system. We want to have a good backup/restore process in place where we can backup minidisks/CMS files with the ability to restore any 1 or more individual

Re: Backup CMS files

2008-02-13 Thread Schuh, Richard
VM:Backup from CA if you are interested in the ability to restore individual files from CMS format minidisks or from SFS. They also have a product called Hidro for disk image backups. You might want to check out IBM's products for backup. Make sure that whatever you choose is a product that you

Re: Backup CMS files

2008-02-13 Thread Mike Walter
While CA's VM:Backup or Syback (and maybe CA's VM:Tape tape management system) and IBM's IBM Backup and Restore Manager (and maybe IBM Tape Manager) are IMHO the de facto backup solutions for z/VM (like FDR and IBM's DFwhatever solution for z/OS), there are other less palatable options for

Re: Backup CMS files

2008-02-13 Thread Brent Litster
Thanks everyone. And thanks for the offer for the REXX exec Ed. I think what my company wants to bring in is something that supports standard label tapes and some automation. Brent Brent Litster Zions Management Services Company 2185 South 3270 West West Valley City 84119 (801) 844-5545 [EMAIL

Re: Backup CMS files

2008-02-13 Thread Bill Munson
Brent, As much as I love IBM and the people who work for IBM ;-) The CA-VM:Manager Suite of products are a complete package: VM:Secure is a Security and Directory product in one. VM:Backup, VM:Backup-HiDRo, and VM:Archive for cms and dasd backup. there are other products but these are the

Re: Backup CMS files

2008-02-13 Thread Brent Litster
Thanks, Mike. Something that's supported and will likely continue to be supported in the future tends to get managements attention. Brent Litster Zions Management Services Company 2185 South 3270 West West Valley City 84119 (801) 844-5545 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: The

Re: Backup CMS files

2008-02-13 Thread Huegel, Thomas
I have to agree with Ed. Some human had to write the code does it really matter who paid his salary? It also depends on what you are backing up. If your z/VM is used almost entirely to host other operating systems and very little ever happens in CMS one solution may be proper, but on the other

PUT2PROD Error

2008-02-13 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
I'm running service to apply ptf UM31784 (we have some DS8300's coming in) and when I ran the put2prod step I got the following message: PUT2PROD USERID: MAINT

Re: Backup CMS files

2008-02-13 Thread Schuh, Richard
Also not good if you consider those who follow in your footsteps. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:42 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject:

Re: Backup CMS files

2008-02-13 Thread Wakser, David
Well put, Thomas - what is being backed up makes a BIG difference. When I was in charge of such things, I was constantly bothered by users who mistakenly erased important files. So, when DITTO started supporting the DDR format, I wrote an EXEC (dated 1995) that could be used by the users. It

Re: Backup CMS files

2008-02-13 Thread Ed Zell
Relying on home-grown, unsupported tools is probably not something anyone wants to do when considering a long-term career. :-) Oh I wouldn't go quite that far. We have been running our home grown CMS backup system for about 19 years now. It isn't too complicated, just a series of LINK,

Re: Backup CMS files

2008-02-13 Thread Schuh, Richard
Don't forget VM:Tape. It or a similar product from another vendor is pretty much required if you want to automats the operation. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Munson Sent: Wednesday,

Dirmaint 1DE

2008-02-13 Thread Alain Benveniste
The doc says : The DIRMAINT 1DE disk must be allocated in the following manner: For CKD devices: cylinder 0 must be 1 allocated as PERM space and cylinder 1 thro ugh END must be allocated as DRCT space. From SDO, the drct zone on 530RES is 20 cyls, 1DE is 20 cyls in the dir ectory. Couldn't it

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-13 Thread McKown, John
No, but there is a weird post on IBM-MAIN where a person says that the D M=CPU on his z9 shows a device type of 2097 (not 2096 or 2094). It shows a z/HE as the CPC NAME. He posted that the D M=CPU showed: quote D M=CPU IEE174I 02.14.36 DISPLAY M 160 PROCESSOR STATUS ID CPU SERIAL 00 + *02097

Re: Backup CMS files

2008-02-13 Thread Brent Litster
One thing I forget to mention is that we will be running Linux instances under z/VM as well. Do the CA and IBM products address Linux files as well? Brent Litster Zions Management Services Company 2185 South 3270 West West Valley City 84119 (801) 844-5545 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-13 Thread RPN01
The z10? On 2/13/08 2:36 PM, Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone heard any good rumors about IBM's next z series (mainframe) announcement?

Any Rumors?

2008-02-13 Thread Huegel, Thomas
Has anyone heard any good rumors about IBM's next z series (mainframe) announcement?

Re: Dirmaint 1DE

2008-02-13 Thread Kris Buelens
I guess DIRMAINT used 1DE to perform a test write. So its size should be large enough to hold at most the full object directory. 19 cylinders is a lot, yiu can have a huge source directory before that these 19 cylinders get filled (huge: in my eyes, a lot more than 1 lines). 2008/2/13,

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-13 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Schmiedge Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:31 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? The IBM System z9 announcement dated April 27th 2006 says a z9 BC model

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-13 Thread Adam Thornton
On Feb 13, 2008, at 2:36 PM, Huegel, Thomas wrote: Has anyone heard any good rumors about IBM's next z series (mainframe) announcement? It'll be locked to ATT and every time it gets a firmware upgrade it'll brick itself if it's been unlocked. Oh, sorry. That's the iPhone, isn't it?

Re: Dirmaint 1DE

2008-02-13 Thread Imler, Steven J
It's used for DIRMAINT's directory update DELTA processing ... essentially a scratch compile area ... where only the directory entries that were changed are recompiled. Then the DELTA changes are dynamically linked into the online directory. This bypasses the overhead DIRMAINT used to incur for

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-13 Thread Mike Walter
Rumors? Sure. But there's a roadshow announcement sent by our IBM sales team: https://www-950.ibm.com/events/wwe/syszrs/syszrs08.nsf Gee, maybe with syszrs08 they'll call it the System zRS8, or just System z8? Does it REALLY matter what it's called? PERFORMANCE matters, not the name. The

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-13 Thread Gentry, Stephen
Or would that be a zA? Steve G. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RPN01 Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:44 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? The z10? On 2/13/08 2:36 PM, Huegel,

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-13 Thread Ron Schmiedge
The IBM System z9 announcement dated April 27th 2006 says a z9 BC model S07 has a processor machine type of 2097. On 2/13/08, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, but there is a weird post on IBM-MAIN where a person says that the D M=CPU on his z9 shows a device type of 2097 (not 2096 or

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-13 Thread Jim Elliott
The IBM System z9 announcement dated April 27th 2006 says a z9 BC model S07 has a processor machine type of 2097. Ron: Huh? The z9 BC (R07 or S07) are both machine type 2096. Jim

Re: PUT2PROD Error

2008-02-13 Thread David Kreuter
Hi: From MAINT do a VMFVIEW PUT2PROD. Then do a PF2 ALL and find the messages you sent below. Right around those messages should be details on why it failed. Look for errors from the userid BLDSEG in this log. Let us know what you find. David Kreuter -Original Message- From: The IBM

Re: Dirmaint 1DE

2008-02-13 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 02/13/2008 at 03:43 EST, Alain Benveniste [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The doc says : The DIRMAINT 1DE disk must be allocated in the following manner: For CKD devices: cylinder 0 must be 1 allocated as PERM space and cylinder 1 through END must be allocated as DRCT space.

Re: PUT2PROD Error

2008-02-13 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Thanks for the help. I found the following: ST:VMFP2P2760I PUT2PROD processing started for SEGMENTS ST:VMFSET2760I VMFSETUP processing started for SERVP2P BASE ST:VMFUTL2205I Minidisk|Directory Assignments: ST:StringMode Stat Vdev Label/Directory ST:VMFUTL2205I

Re: To define virtual processors or not

2008-02-13 Thread Adam Thornton
On Feb 13, 2008, at 6:54 PM, Paul Vincent wrote: Hello List, I'm new to z/VM and have a question. Should I define virtual processors to z/VM service ids/guests (TCPIP, Linux guests...) with the 'MACHINE ESA ## CPU #' control statements in the USER DIRECT file? Is there a performance

SHARE Orlando: LAST CALL FOR CHAIRS!!

2008-02-13 Thread Mark Boltz
Heya! It's almost time to pack the bags and head to Disney World! Personally, I'm looking forward to an evening at MGM Studios! Oh wait, there's this conference thing going on too I guess I should tend to... So there's but a handful of sessions that are in need of a chair! Not the kind you sit

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-13 Thread Mark Post
On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 3:36 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone heard any good rumors about IBM's next z series (mainframe) announcement? Why depend on rumors? See what IBM's CFO has to say about it in public:

Re: To define virtual processors or not

2008-02-13 Thread Gillis, Mark
Don't bother defining more than 1 to a machine that just runs a Multitasking CMS application - it actually slows things down due to the fact that most system calls switch back to the base processor. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: To define virtual processors or not

2008-02-13 Thread Adam Thornton
On Feb 13, 2008, at 7:06 PM, Gillis, Mark wrote: Don't bother defining more than 1 to a machine that just runs a Multitasking CMS application - it actually slows things down due to the fact that most system calls switch back to the base processor. Oh, sorry. My implicit workload there was

Re: To define virtual processors or not

2008-02-13 Thread Doug Shupe
Two works well for us. Doug - Original Message - From: Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 7:58 PM Subject: Re: To define virtual processors or not On Feb 13, 2008, at 6:54 PM, Paul Vincent wrote: Hello List, I'm new to

Re: wakeup (iucvmsg never receives output

2008-02-13 Thread Ivica Brodaric
Yes, thank you Ron, 'WAKEUP +0 (IUCVMSG' just does CP SET MSG IUCV and WAKEUP RESET puts it back to ON. To trap other stuff, you do need to explicitly set it (and maybe IMSG/EMSG would be enough in this case). But Phillip has to set those traps before the SPXTAPE command. And BTW, Phillip, WAKEUP

Re: PUT2PROD Error

2008-02-13 Thread Ivica Brodaric
Your problem is here: ST:BLDSEG : DMSGEN1279E Error(s) occurred during SEGGEN processing. ST:BLDSEG : VMFBDS1965E The command, SEGGEN HELPSEG PSEG A SYSTEM SEGID ST:D2 ( NOTYPE, failed ST:BLDSEG : with return code 32 Return code 32 from SEGGEN is not very helpful (and