Let me apologize in advance for asking so many questions related to VM
software licensing. I don't get a clear picture sometimes of what is a
non-chargeable feature and what is. I'm preparing to install the
non-chargeable DFSMS/VM feature. However, the install instructions list
ISPF and the C
Hello list,
I have been playing a bit with the Webshare package from Rick Troth. It
has been succesfull so far but now I ran into a problem running CGI
scripts.
My webserver machine, HTTPD, is an SFS only machine. (IPL CMS PARM
FILEPOOL VMSBSFS)
I started with all files in the root of the
Let me apologize in advance for asking so many questions
related to VM software licensing. I don't get a clear picture
sometimes of what is a non-chargeable feature and what is. I'm
preparing to install the non-chargeable DFSMS/VM feature.
However, the install instructions list ISPF and the C
I'm preparing to install the non-chargeable DFSMS/VM feature.
However, the install instructions list ISPF and the C runtime
library of LE as co requisites. Does anyone know if these two
components are already installed as part of the base z/VM or are
chargeable features that need to be
Let me apologize in advance for asking so many questions related to VM
software licensing. I don't get a clear picture sometimes of what is a
non-chargeable feature and what is.
If you ever completely understand it, please let the rest of us
know...8-). Of course, if you do, the guys in
David Boyes wrote
and there is an embedded cut-down LE preinstalled
that will probably suffice for your use.
The LE supplied with z/VM is the complete LE package. It contains the
run-time libraries for C/C++, COBOL, and PL/I. There is no other version
of LE available or needed
and there is an embedded cut-down LE preinstalled
that will probably suffice for your use.
The LE supplied with z/VM is the complete LE package. It contains the
run-time libraries for C/C++, COBOL, and PL/I. There is no other version
of LE available or needed for z/VM. This is the prereq that
David Boyes wrote:
Also, are there commands that will show me everything that's installed
on my system? VMSES/E appears to have all the answers but not sure
where in the 800+ page manual I need to reference. If this were z/OS, I
could get the answers easily from SMP/e.
The section in
Probably not. The abstract includes, What makes System z so special in
10 dimensions? I didn't know that IBM had an architecture that would
operate in 10-dimensional space. I have enough trouble in 3 dimensions.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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From: The IBM z/VM
Are you using TSM for file level backups? If so, are
you happy with it?
Thanks,
Alyce
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Alan Ackerman
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 7:34 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Backup CMS
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:08:48 -0600, Adam Thornton
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On Feb 19, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Schuh, Richard wrote:
Probably not. The abstract includes, What makes System z so special
in
10 dimensions?
You'll love the string handling capabilities.
HAW HAW I SLAY ME.
Adam
I was
On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 11:08 -0600, Adam Thornton wrote:
On Feb 19, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Schuh, Richard wrote:
Probably not. The abstract includes, What makes System z so
special
in
10 dimensions?
You'll love the string handling capabilities.
HAW HAW I SLAY ME.
Sung to the tune
Speaking of rumors, I got a z/VM Web Site Changes message from IBM that
said:
Hello,
This file on our web site changed very recently:
http://www.vm.ibm.com/education/lvc/index.html
To unenroll for these notifications, visit:
https://www.vm.ibm.com/notify/
Thanks,
Your IBM z/VM Team
I went
On Feb 19, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Schuh, Richard wrote:
Probably not. The abstract includes, What makes System z so special
in
10 dimensions?
You'll love the string handling capabilities.
HAW HAW I SLAY ME.
Adam
We still place all CGI's in a FILELIST in an SFS directory, I think it
is a requirement. There used to be an extension to Webshare that
costed a few $ (and that we got too), and I think it lifted this
requirement; but -as mentioned -, we still do use the FILELIST.
The path for a CGI is then
Is anyone using DSS to backup their VM system under zOS and have you
been successful in restoring and IPL'ing ?
Sample of the DSS backup statements were using,
DUMP TRACKS(0,0,3338,14) INDDNAME(DASD) OUTDDNAME(TAPE) ADMIN -
CPVOLUME CANCELERROR
If it's the complete package, where is the FORTRAN support? :-)
z/OS LE supports FORTRAN, why doesn't z/VM? We were not fully able to
implement LE on our system because we had CMS apps that were a mixture of
FORTRAN and PL/I. Those apps could not run with LE because of this stupi
d
And we will no doubt also love how the black hole handles data
compaction.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Thornton
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:09 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
On Tuesday, 02/19/2008 at 11:55 EST, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Probably not. The abstract includes, What makes System z so special in
10 dimensions? I didn't know that IBM had an architecture that would
operate in 10-dimensional space. I have enough trouble in 3 dimensions.
You
We have used the method you show to restore a Linux guest and we were
able to logon and use it with no problem we were using z/OS 1.6.
But when we back up Linux and/or VM they are down so the backups are
stable.
Mace
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL
If it's the complete package, where is the FORTRAN support?
:-) z/OS LE supports FORTRAN, why doesn't z/VM? We were not
fully able to implement LE on our system because we had CMS
apps that were a mixture of FORTRAN and PL/I. Those apps could
not run with LE because of this stupid
Brian,
Do you understand that if you backup any system from any other system,
using tools which are not aware of file updates in cache, and files or
databases which are spread across physically disparate DASD, then the
backup is unreliable unless the system being backed up has been gracefully
Yes, you do need the CGI-BIN FILELIST in the directory where the cgis
live.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:51 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
You'll love the string handling capabilities.
Sung to the tune of... If I only had a (m-)brane
I'm a frayed knot!
Interesting article
http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/januaryfebruary08/features/18963p3
.as
px
In Search of Mainframe Engineers
New technologies point to the future of mainframe computing
January | February 2008 | by Ivan Wallis and Byron Rashed
It may seem as if few people want to
Thanks, likewise our linux guests and VM itself is down.
I was more curious around the cp allocations for page, spool tdisk were
they preserved.
Brian
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Macioce, Larry
Sent: Tuesday, February 19,
Got a 404 when I tired to look
Mace
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bob Heerdink
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 1:57 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Article: In Search of Mainframe Engineers
Interesting article
Thanks, likewise our linux guests and VM itself is down.
I was more curious around the cp allocations for page, spool tdisk
were
they preserved.
Page is volatile by definition, so backing it up is kinda pointless.
Ditto tdisk. Spool, you need to do with SPXTAPE if you expect it to be
usable
Try putting the link back together, it was split so the 3.aspx was
on a new line.
should end /18963p3.aspx
On 2/19/08, Macioce, Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Got a 404 when I tired to look
Mace
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Try putting the link back together, it is wrapped.
It should end /18963p3.aspx
On 2/19/08, Macioce, Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Got a 404 when I tired to look
Mace
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bob Heerdink
Sent:
I thought I did that but when I did it again it worked...I think I'm
going crazy
Thanks
Mace
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ron Schmiedge
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 2:09 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re:
As long as your z/VM systems are down during the backup... no problem.
The DASD allocations are housed on cylinder zero. Bot for CP-owned DASD
as well as all other CP formatted DASD.
That's why it is generally considered a best practice to ALLOCATE 0-0
PERM when running CPFMTXA. Other stuff
It's wrapped.no wonder I hate that stuff..rap..wrap..
OK I won't quit my day job
Mace
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ron Schmiedge
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 2:12 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Article:
We do the same type of backup. Right now it works well for us just
because we can afford to bring down the z/VM system once a month for full
volume dumps. The Linux servers are backed up nightly using Tivoli. All
this may change in the future.
Hamilton, Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent by:
Now that this subject has come up...
Can someone tell me where I might find the free part of Rick's Webshare
program? I've got a copy but I am not sure where I got it or if it is complete.
Much thanks,
Michael
- Original Message
From: Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
Rick Troth's WEBSHARE program can be downloaded from here:
htt://www.vsoft-software.com/downloads.html
Enjoy.
Michael Simms wrote:
Now that this subject has come up...
Can someone tell me where I might find the free part of Rick's Webshare
program? I've got a copy but I am not sure where I
Watch the line wrap. I was able to get to it.
Steve G.
(Hi, Bob)
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Macioce, Larry
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 2:04 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Article: In Search of
For those of you who have been following the saga of bringing
OpenSolaris to System Z, I'm pleased to say that those of you
coming to SHARE in Orlando will get a chance to get your hands
on it live. IBM has allowed us to put a few copies of the
virtual machine on the z9 in their booth, and
Brian--The appends that followed yours and preceded mine are all good
advice, HOWEVER and there is always one of those.
If you don't use a VM based database, you don't have to worry about
that. If you are, you'd better, at least, shut it down for the backup
time.
The comments about the
Is it possible to run Solaris Zone on this ported version?
How about available application for Solaris, I mean compiled binary
applications, for example Sun JDK.
Can't comment on other vendors plans, and I haven't tested zones yet.
There's no reason why it shouldn't work, but you'd be lots
I should post this to the Linux list also, but I'll start with the VM list.
On a VM system hosting Linux guests,
I can think of one or two reasons why one might
want to use EDEV instead of direct SAN connections.
There are also some reasons why one would NOT want to.
Can any of you think of
On Feb 19, 2008, at 3:33 PM, Richard Troth wrote:
I should post this to the Linux list also, but I'll start with the
VM list.
On a VM system hosting Linux guests,
I can think of one or two reasons why one might
want to use EDEV instead of direct SAN connections.
There are also some reasons
Who wants the last bite of cake??
We have just a couple sessions needing chairs still. Mark Post, are you
willing to be the rebel without a clu...er, cause and self-chair your
Friday lab again?
Wed 03:00p 15009146Using Unicenter VM:Operator To Manage
Linux Servers Brian Jagos
Given that performance is very nearly the same between SAN and EDEV
connections, or acceptably so, then I would recommend that you go with
the EDEV approach. Just have your SAN folks carve out a big chunk of SAN
storage for your use, and then allocate EDEV (FBA type) disk storage for
guests as
I just heard one today at a seminar on Linux on System z in Dallas
(Coppell). The racing stripe on the zNext will be GREEN!
--
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Senior Systems Programmer
HealthMarkets
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The information
On Tuesday, 02/19/2008 at 01:30 EST, Mike Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Solution: backup a system using its own products which are aware of
these
limitations, or use backup tools at rely on a client running on the
system
being backed up to get a stable, reliable, and _restorable_ backup.
I can take 9146 on Wed at 3pm
Jerry Whitteridge
Mainframe Engineering
Safeway Inc
925 951 4184
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Boltz
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008
Webshare ... wow ... that goes back a way!
When using FILELISTs, you can code magical things like *CGI. For lack of
a better term, let's call that a trigger filetype. But when running purely
from SFS, Webshare internally creates FILELIST streams, so the only
filetypes you get are a real
As far as I know, EDEV -FBA emulation- uses much more CPU. At the
other hand, with EDEV VM's minidisk cache becomes available, what can
help Linuxes with shared minidisks. And there are differences in
error recovery for the paths: -if I remember well- Linux does it
better than CP.
2008/2/19,
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