Re: Mystery paging

2008-05-19 Thread Tom Ramsberger
Dennis, NOMAD Shared Databases can utilize dataspaces. It's implemented by merely adding a LOOKUP DATASPACE clause to the desired MASTER definitions, then issuing a SCHEMA CHECK command. No application code need change to take advantage of the facility. So it's conceivable a DBA impleme

Re: Mystery paging

2008-05-19 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
Kris, NOMAD servers are not listed in QUERY RESOURCES. After thinking about it some more, I seriously doubt they use dataspaces. Most of the NOMAD code predates the existence of dataspaces. Bill Holder's explanation is more likely. The workload on the system is CMS, so I'm sure there's a fair a

Re: VM - Network best practices

2008-05-19 Thread David Boyes
> We need to put together something approaching a production network > environment for Windows(r) under z/VM testing. > We don't believe a 500 seat environment would generate any more network > traffic or for that matter be any more complex than the network > definitions > for a z/VM Linux server c

Re: zVM and the SPOOL file

2008-05-19 Thread Rich Greenberg
On: Mon, May 19, 2008 at 01:43:33PM -0400,Gentry, Stephen Wrote: } How does zVM store data in it's spool file? More specifically, Others have mentioned that the spool system, as is most CP data, is made up of 4k blocks.. A bit more detail: The data in the 4k blocks consists of CCWs that when e

Re: Extension of MAINT 190 (S-DISK)

2008-05-19 Thread Rick Troth
In a previous life, we consistenly modified SYSPROF EXEC to conditionally access 319 and 31A (and 19F). If they were missing: no prob, and no error. But most users got them. We then plunked various third party packages (or stubs) onto these disks. The value of this was that users might trash th

Re: zVM and the SPOOL file

2008-05-19 Thread Kris Buelens
CP speaks in 4K blocks...CMS mostly too, but if you insist you can format CMS minidisks with 512, 1K or 2K blocksizes too. 2008/5/19 Gentry, Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > How does zVM store data in it's spool file? More specifically, > in VSE/Power, a decision had to be made as to the block

Re: zVM and the SPOOL file

2008-05-19 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gentry, Stephen > Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 12:44 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: zVM and the SPOOL file > > How does zVM store data in it's spool file? More specifically, > i

zVM and the SPOOL file

2008-05-19 Thread Gentry, Stephen
How does zVM store data in it's spool file? More specifically, in VSE/Power, a decision had to be made as to the block size of the Power data file (spool file). If you made the block size small, you utilized space better for small entries but you'd get an increase in I/O. If you used large block

Re: 'GSKKM error 146'

2008-05-19 Thread Suleiman Shahin
Thanks, Alan. I have contacted IBM. Suleiman Shahin > Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 23:35:20 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: > 'GSKKM error 146'> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU> > Unfortunately, there is no > 146 in that table. There are two 'nnn' entries=> . Both tell you to contact > >

Re: Mystery paging

2008-05-19 Thread Bill Holder
The dataspace usage is certainly a good thing to check, but there are at least a couple of other possibilities: The paging rate numbers are across time, whereas the Q ALLOC PAGE output is instantaneous. It could be that there's a low volume of paging to/from p aging DASD going on, but the pages

Re: Extension of MAINT 190 (S-DISK)

2008-05-19 Thread David Boyes
> You forget the VMSES PARTCAT: I've got entries in VMSES PARTCAT for > all the things I store on 19E, even y own code gets a dummy prodid. > VMFCOPY can then be used to copy all files of a "prodid". And, I > wouldn't be me if I hadn't coded an exec to help with the task: my > SESCOMP first compar

Re: set conceal

2008-05-19 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 05/19/2008 at 09:50 EDT, Rob van der Heij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > DMS141T indicates that a program, not CMS itself, abended. DMS143T > > indicates a CMS abend, which will load a disabled wait and trig

Re: Extension of MAINT 190 (S-DISK)

2008-05-19 Thread Kris Buelens
You forget the VMSES PARTCAT: I've got entries in VMSES PARTCAT for all the things I store on 19E, even y own code gets a dummy prodid. VMFCOPY can then be used to copy all files of a "prodid". And, I wouldn't be me if I hadn't coded an exec to help with the task: my SESCOMP first compares VMSES P

Re: Extension of MAINT 190 (S-DISK)

2008-05-19 Thread Kris Buelens
We remove the "Shared S or Y-stat not available" messages for all end-users; as sysprogs, we still see them. Futhermore, our saved segment managing machine checks daily for unshared S- or Y-stat too and -if unshared- it will resave CMS when there are fewer than 4 copies of the CMS NSS. Similar: t

Re: Extension of MAINT 190 (S-DISK)

2008-05-19 Thread David Boyes
> Thank you for this hint. Well I am also much more in favour to do the > installation on a separate disks, however in my case IBM install > instructions of the SDO (Semi-VMSES/E Licenced Products) tell to install > it > on MAINT 19E. Save yourself a lot of pain. Don't. Mixing stuff up on the 19E

Re: Extension of MAINT 190 (S-DISK)

2008-05-19 Thread RPN01
Don't forget to do all this for your 490 minidisk as well, as there are several processes that assume that 490 and 190 are very similar -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ ---

Re: Extension of MAINT 190 (S-DISK)

2008-05-19 Thread Fox Blue
Hi Mike, Thank you for this hint. Well I am also much more in favour to do the installation on a separate disks, however in my case IBM install instructions of the SDO (Semi-VMSES/E Licenced Products) tell to install it on MAINT 19E. Therefore I do it in the recommended way but only for IBM prod

Re: set conceal

2008-05-19 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > DMS141T indicates that a program, not CMS itself, abended. DMS143T > indicates a CMS abend, which will load a disabled wait and trigger a > re-IPL. So my expectations were the problem (as with many performance issues). C

Re: Extension of MAINT 190 (S-DISK)

2008-05-19 Thread Michael Coffin
FWIW, I try to keep both the 190 and 19E pretty much as shipped by IBM. All "public" programs and files (i.e. other vendor products, locally developed programs and files, etc. etc.) all go on a disk accessed by all users via an exit in the SYSPROF EXEC (i.e. in my case they live on PUBLIC 191). Th

Re: set conceal

2008-05-19 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 05/19/2008 at 08:42 EDT, Kris Buelens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rob, I think that CONCEAL on acts upon disabled waits, hence CP READs... Correct, as usual, Kris. A VM READ will not trigger CONCEAL processing. DMS141T indicates that a program, not CMS itself, abended. DMS143T in

Re: Extension of MAINT 190 (S-DISK)

2008-05-19 Thread Bob Bates
The 19E Y disk can be changed and the files copied without a problem. It is a little more work than adding a new "public" disk that everyone accesses. Once the disk is moved, a new "Y-stat not available" error message starts appearing after IPLing CMS. To resolve that, do the SAMPNSS CMS from MAINT

Re: Extension of MAINT 190 (S-DISK)

2008-05-19 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Fox Blue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK thank you, correct. But then I would like to extend the question with > regard of the Y-Disk. Is a simple CMS copy enough or is special attention Since the Y-disk FST's are also kept in the CMS NSS, you need to save CMS aga

Re: Extension of MAINT 190 (S-DISK)

2008-05-19 Thread Fox Blue
Kris, thank you very much for the info. Focusing now on Y-DISK. Is a simple cop y of the files enough after formating the new Y-DISK or are there onher pit falls? Fox >Extending the S-disk is seldom done, because not that easy. Most >people would place extra >products on the Y-disk (19E), or

Re: mixed case messages

2008-05-19 Thread Kris Buelens
The telecourse TCVM1 -HTML selfstudy, on VM's download lib- has a whole chapter devoted to ADDRESS COMMAND and PIPE COMMAND as opposed to ADDRESS CMS and PIPE CMS. Kris 2008/5/19, Michael Coffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi Folks, > > You should always use ADDRESS COMMAND in your CMS REXX EXECs (unl

Re: Extension of MAINT 190 (S-DISK)

2008-05-19 Thread Kris Buelens
Extending the S-disk is seldom done, because not that easy. Most people would place extra products on the Y-disk (19E), or yet another disks, accessed by SYSPROF. But, if you insist: - FORMAT the new minidisk e.g. as B - FORMAT newcuu B nnn (RECOMP makes room for the CMS nucleus, "nnn" is the s

Re: Extension of MAINT 190 (S-DISK)

2008-05-19 Thread Fox Blue
On Mon, 19 May 2008 14:43:09 +0200, Rob van der Heij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OK thank you, correct. But then I would like to extend the question with regard of the Y-Disk. Is a simple CMS copy enough or is special attention needed. Fox >On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Fox Blue <[EMAIL PR

Re: Extension of MAINT 190 (S-DISK)

2008-05-19 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Fox Blue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > it. It can be that we install some products (like DCF) that reside on the > S-Disk. One does not normally install those on the S-disk but on the Y-disk. (the S-disk is being DDR-ed from the 490) Rob

Re: set conceal

2008-05-19 Thread Kris Buelens
Rob, I think that CONCEAL on acts upon disabled waits, hence CP READs... Kris 2008/5/19, Rob van der Heij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Friends, Why doesn't my SET CONCEAL do what I expected ? > I have SET CONCEAL ON but when the program gets a program check, it > just drops in VM READ after a DMSABE141

Re: mixed case messages

2008-05-19 Thread Bruce Hayden
Pipelines can certainly do that (as well as diag and EXECIO). This is very quick & dirty to get the spool file numbers of any file with lower case in its name. /* R E X X */ Address Command 'PIPE cp Q RDR * ALL', '| drop 1', '| xlate 54-71 a-z a', '| locate 54-71 "a"', '| spec w2 1',

Re: mixed case messages

2008-05-19 Thread Michael Coffin
Hi Folks, You should always use ADDRESS COMMAND in your CMS REXX EXECs (unless they are addressing some other environment, like GCS). The default is to ADDRESS CMS, which means any host commands your REXX EXEC passes to the subcommand environment are handled by the CMS command processor, just as

Extension of MAINT 190 (S-DISK)

2008-05-19 Thread Fox Blue
Dear all, What is the correct procedure for extending the MAINT 190 (S-Disk)? My MA INT 190 is 82% full and I would like to prepare myself for the case of extend ing it. It can be that we install some products (like DCF) that reside on the S-Disk. Is allocation of a new mini disk and a DDR to

Re: mixed case messages

2008-05-19 Thread Jim Bohnsack
In a similiar vein, how can I get the lower case information which may be returned from querying the rdr. RDRLIST does it, at least it displays the lower case names in the User at Node columns. I believe that I could stop 99.9% of the spam that enters the system with an SMTP exit that would c

Re: mixed case messages

2008-05-19 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
Ray and Richard, Thanks to you both for jiggling my partial memory! :-) Shimon

set conceal

2008-05-19 Thread Rob van der Heij
Friends, Why doesn't my SET CONCEAL do what I expected ? I have SET CONCEAL ON but when the program gets a program check, it just drops in VM READ after a DMSABE141T and nothing else... Rob

Re: mixed case messages

2008-05-19 Thread Richard Troth
In my experience, you've got to *always* drive 'CP MSG' from the Diag() function or DiagRC() function in REXX, or some equivalent. Going through normal CMS command processing performs an up-case on the command so that CMS can remain case insensitive. On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Shimon Lebow

Re: mixed case messages

2008-05-19 Thread Ray Mansell
Shimon Lebowitz wrote: "CP MSG " variable_with_mixedcase_text What have I missed? Thanks! Shimon Try this: Address command "CP MSG " variable_with_mixedcase_text Ray

mixed case messages

2008-05-19 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
Hi, I was under the impression that a CP message/smsg could be mixed case, as long as it was sent directly from an EXEC or other program (and not from the command line which would uppercase all the console input). 1) Is this in fact true? (documented?) 2) IF it's true, what could be causing my m

Re: Lasting Globalv

2008-05-19 Thread Howard Rifkind
Thanks all,I'll execute your suggestions and that should fit the bill.--- On Sun, 5/18/08, Rick Troth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:From: Rick Troth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: Lasting GlobalvTo: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUDate: Sunday, May 18, 2008, 3:35 PMHoward ...The PF key settings are usually est

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