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2008-06-06 Thread Tom Burgess
I will be out of the office starting 07/06/2008 and will not return until 16/06/2008. I will respond to your message when I return. Please consider the environment before deciding to print this email. This email and any attachments are confidential and may be legally privileged or protected by

Re: VM:Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread Mike Walter
Use of the VM:Tape command exit provides a means to automagically swap the mount command volsers in any order you desire. Works great for us after most operators moved to the remote campus. Now, without swapping onsite and offsite tape vaults, read mounts are swapped to the remote site where t

Re: VM:Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread Mike Walter
We're doing similarly with a Sun/STK peered VTS for VM:Archiver. It creates the duplicate virtual volsers in the other campus without any work by VM:Backup (which does VM:Archiver tape I/O). Makes tape access for D.R. painlessly automatic. VM:Backup tapes are still twinned to external 3590 ma

Re: VM:Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread Mark Wheeler
Mark Llewellyn wrote on 06/05/2008 03:12:50 PM: > > Our other option is to simply run two backup jobs, one to the local drive > and one to the remote, but that effectively doubles the hit of the backup > jobs. The (I/O) performance hit on this might not be as high as you think. If you ran the tw

Re: VM:Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread Marcy Cortes
Another option would be a peered VTS. At the moment that's how we're getting all the linux volumes there (although z/OS is doing the dumping and restoring of those w/DFDSS and not us using vm utilities). Marcy "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not t

Re: VM:Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread Llewellyn, Mark
Same here - we are operating on the scenario of our primary data center being destroyed and not coming back. If the offsite copy is a few hours older than the onsite, it's not a show-stopper. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of O'

Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread Llewellyn, Mark
Copying tapes is fraught with enough potential issues (many illuminated here) that we are not going to consider it... -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Wheeler Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 6:39 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU

Re: VM:Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread Llewellyn, Mark
This was actually our first option - remote shadow imaging. The high cost involved and the fundamental requirements of an actual disaster recovery eliminated the proposal. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colin Allinson S

Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-06 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Hi Peggy, I specified the MTU on the Gateway statement! The error was DTCPRS051E - Line 24: Invalid Packet Size in Gateway Command: 16384 Thanks.. Terry Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - CITIC z/OS Performance and Tuning (410) 786-0386 - Office (443) 632-4191 - Cell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: 2105 config change questions

2008-06-06 Thread Tom Duerbusch
You can mix any thing with anythingexcept you can't mix ficon and scsi (FCP) on the same LCU. (You can physically LPAR a DS6800 and you can logically LPAR a DS8000). When you add volumes to a LCU, you specify the device number (IOCP translates device numbers to our 390 addresses). I woul

2105 config change questions

2008-06-06 Thread Dave Reinken
I've got a 2105-800 coming in to replace a 9393 and 2105-F20. The 9393 needs to be pulled to make room for the 2105-800, so I am squishing what I need from it onto the 2105-F20 for now. The F20 is currently defined with 8 LCU's of 40 3390-9s each, leaving an extra 88,456 cylinders in each LCU. I ne

Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
>Can't do that, unless you can guarantee that the tapes at the remote site >are longer than the local copy (which would be unlikely). When the backup >runs, writing to a given pair of tapes ends when the first one hits EOT. That's yet another complication for us if were to use twins. We use 9840

Re: Afterthought on Trying to Learn z/Linux ISHELL Scripting (tongue in cheek)

2008-06-06 Thread Dave Wade
I think Eric Thomas got there first when he worked for CERN:- Go to the VM Share Archives at:- http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/browse?fn=TOOLKIT&ft=MEMO and search for his append :- "Append on 08/26/92 at 11:03 by Eric Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:" There is nice tutorial (or is it a rant) on usin

Re: Afterthought on Trying to Learn z/Linux ISHELL Scripting

2008-06-06 Thread Jack Woehr
Shimon Lebowitz wrote: Can you write it up and post it? Sounds great! In my copious spare time! -- Jack J. Woehr# "Self-delusion is http://www.well.com/~jax # half the battle!" http://www.softwoehr.com # - Zippy the Pinhead

Re: VSWITCH VLAN-aware not connecting

2008-06-06 Thread Richard Clapper
Alan, here's where we are with your suggestions. 1. I used the HMC OSA Advanced Facilities to validate that the CHPID is enabled, and there are no anomalies. 2. NETSTAT ARP ALL TCP DTCVSW1 reveals that only my two guest IPs are in the ARP cache. The gateway address isn't there. 3. I went thro

Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread Mike Walter
My enhancement request suggested to writing until EOV, then back up to the beginning of that VM:Backup domain, close the tape (with all the usual EOV, and cross-linked User Header and Trailer Labels), and re-write that domain on the fresh tape. It got more complex when a single domain would no

Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread Tom Duerbusch
There is a round about way of doing this. Fran and I came up with it about 4 years ago. VMBACKUP can backup to DASD. With that, you need to specify the size of a "tape" file that will exist on disk. Then, you do, in my case, a twin backup specifying a disk file and tape. When the disk file is f

Re: VM:Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
>Put a VTS in your DR site connected to you as the site for the twin >tapes. No movement of tapes now. In fact, our remote site has a VTS for DR backups. Our local backups are still in an STK silo. My comment about tape movement was in context with David's suggestion of a fallback when the chan

Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stracka, James (GTS) > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:36 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit > > Now that is interesting. How does th

Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread Stracka, James (GTS)
Now that is interesting. How does that OS/390 utility know where the EOT reflector is located unless it spins the entire tape first? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 9:48 AM To: IBMVM@LIS

Re: VM:Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread Stracka, James (GTS)
Put a VTS in your DR site connected to you as the site for the twin tapes. No movement of tapes now. Physical tape shipment is scrutinized here. Tapes must either be encrypted or hand-carried by a Bank employee to their destination. We'll probably be moving to an all-VTS environment in a year o

Re: VM:Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread Stracka, James (GTS)
We do it and have been doing it for years. Works well. This message w/attachments (message) may be privileged, confidential or proprietary, and if you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender, do not use or share it and del

Re: IBM LINK Web Site.

2008-06-06 Thread Jan Canavan
Go here: https://www-304.ibm.com/usrsrvc/account/userservices/jsp/login.jsp?persistPage=true   and there is a point to register and see if this helps -Original Message- From: Howard Rifkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Jun 5, 2008 12:51 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: IBM LINK Web Sit

Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread Dodds, Jim
That is a good point that I had not completely thought thru about the tape lengths. So forget about what I said. Jim Dodds Systems Programmer Kentucky State University 400 East Main Street Frankfort, Ky 40601 502 597 6114 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[E

Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread Mike Walter
And after having run into the (barely) shorter-output-tape situation after a major, self-induced problem with VM:Backup here (accidentally scratching hundreds of tapes, but of those none from the same twin set), I opened an enhancement request (now called a DAR) with perhaps then Systems Center

Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-06 Thread Peggy Williams
Terry, What statement did you specify the MTU on - Gateway or Link? And what was the error you got? Peggy Williams z/VM - TCP/IP Development "Martin, Terry R.

Re: Getting "DMSOPN3362E Imbedded blanks found in file name"

2008-06-06 Thread Phil Smith III
"Horlick, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >We have an interesting problem. We are using CA-VMLIB and have been >getting an error on the VMLIB service machine comme ca: > DMSOPN3362E Imbedded blanks found in file name Apologies if this has been answered already (I get the list digested). Be

Re: Afterthought on Trying to Learn z/Linux ISHELL Scripting

2008-06-06 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
Can you write it up and post it? Sounds great! Shimon Original message >Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 08:31:02 -0600 >From: Jack Woehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Afterthought on Trying to Learn z/Linux ISHELL Scripting >To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > > Dave Wade wrote: > > F

Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread Mark Wheeler
> > Curiousity question, because I don't know VM:Backup, is there a way to > tell VM:Backup to only use n% of a tape? Our z/OS backup utility can be > told to do this. If this is possible, then you could fill a tape up to, > say, 80% and be fairly confident that the second tape would be long > enou

Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Wheeler > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 8:39 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit > > Can't do that, unless you can guarantee that t

Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-06 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Yes, Thanks Alan. In the TCPIP PROFILE I did specify 16K but I received an error so I changed it to 1500 which I new would get around the error. When I did the NETSTAT displays I saw a MFS of 4096 and MTU of 32768. So I guess the question is why did I get the error in the TCPIP PROFILE specifying 1

Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread Mark Wheeler
Can't do that, unless you can guarantee that the tapes at the remote site are longer than the local copy (which would be unlikely). When the backup runs, writing to a given pair of tapes ends when the first one hits EOT. You would also need to a complete copy of the tapes, labels and all, because

Re: Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread Dodds, Jim
I think in the case of having to run 2 backups jobs I would run one backup job and then run a utility job to copy the 1st set of tapes to the remote set of tapes. Jim Dodds Systems Programmer Kentucky State University 400 East Main Street Frankfort, Ky 40601 502 597 6114 -Original Message--

Re: Move multiple minidisks via dirmaint

2008-06-06 Thread Kris Buelens
If you install DFSMS (free feature of VM), you can do massive moves: - with ISPF you can for example request that volume xyz be migrated to some other volume - without ISPF, you get a linemode DFSMS MOVE command to move a single minidisk Both methods internally use the DFSMS COPY command when m

Re: How to stop PIPE STARMON

2008-06-06 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Berry van Sleeuwen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > pipeline and therefore to stop STARMON. And the PIPELINE package also > states HMONITOR to stop the STARMON stage. Based on the GATE stage > description I coded a pipeline but it still doesn't end. > > PIPE literal +10

How to stop PIPE STARMON

2008-06-06 Thread Berry van Sleeuwen
Hello list, I'd like to replace the MONWRITE service we use now with a way to only save selected monitor records to disk. So I use 'PIPE STARMON MONDCSS SHARED | COLLECT' to collect and write selected records to disk. But in order to stop I must issue #CP EXT. I have been testing with other

Re: Real device number assignments

2008-06-06 Thread Kris Buelens
Even though my customer's MVS systems are becoming short of UCB's, each device has a single device number here, be it shared or not. And, even though the VM and MVS support groups are (or I should say were) different, this uniqueness is maintained across VM and MVS systems. 2008/6/1 Fox Blue <[EM

Re: Getting "DMSOPN3362E Imbedded blanks found in file name"

2008-06-06 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 06/05/2008 at 12:27 EDT, "Horlick, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > DMSOPN3362E Imbedded blanks found in file name > > I have opened an issue with CA and I have tried doing an SVCTRACE ON to find > out where the problem is. From looking at the book it seems something should

Re: Install RACF without HLASM???

2008-06-06 Thread Kris Buelens
In the VM/SP days we decided to use a single CP nucleus for all our VM systems, one of which still ran RACF in warningmode. So I coded a RACDEFER EXEC to zap HCPRWA in storage to set the LINK permission flags. As it proved to be useful at some times, I updated it to VM/ESA and even z/VM. I'll sen

Re: VM:Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread Colin Allinson
Thinking laterally about this, there is always another solution. Have you thought about long-distance remote PPRC for your DASD. I am not sure if the official IBM PPRC-XD product can cope with 3000 miles but there are solutions that can. Colin Allinson Amadeus Data Processing GmbH

Re: VM:Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit

2008-06-06 Thread Huegel, Thomas
Or make local twins, then copy one tape-to-remote tape.. problem solved, always at least two backups. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 5:02 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM:Back