Version 4 to Version 5

2009-03-16 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
In changing a z/VM system from Version 4 to Version 5: 1) is there any problem with the V5 system using the existing spool files of V4? 2) Can SFS servers that were running V4 simply be started up with the SFS servers of V5 on the same mdisks? I tried one SFS server and it failed to

Re: Deeper and deeper into the REXX rabbit hole - Signal on ERROR messages

2009-03-16 Thread Kris Buelens
You got me... almost exactly one year ago I updated all my EXECs to become 'RTNSTATE DMSINXED' if Rc0 then do; 'SUBCOM XEDIT' ; Xedit=(rc=0); end else do; call csl 'DMSINXED RETC REAS T'; Xedit=(reas=0 t=0) ; end But, this SIGNAL SAMPEXEC didn't have filetype EXEC (nor XEDIT, nor REXX),

Re: Version 4 to Version 5

2009-03-16 Thread Kris Buelens
I went from V4 to V5 without any special treatment for spool nor SFS. I work like this since about VM/ESA R2.2. That is, I re-use the spool space of my old VM in the new release. For SFS, I simply started them with the new CMS level (most of the time, when I do that I have an eye on the SFS

Re: Deeper and deeper into the REXX rabbit hole - Signal on ERROR messages

2009-03-16 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.com wrote: You got me...  almost exactly one year ago I updated all my EXECs to become   'RTNSTATE DMSINXED'   if Rc0 then do; 'SUBCOM XEDIT' ; Xedit=(rc=0); end   else do; call csl 'DMSINXED RETC REAS T'; Xedit=(reas=0 t=0) ;

Greg Rehn is out of the office.

2009-03-16 Thread Greg Rehn
I will be out of the office starting 03/16/2009 and will not return until 03/24/2009. For technical issues that can't wait, please contact my backup, Dennis Hermann, at (309) 266-1222 or Cell: (309) 678-0814

Re: Deeper and deeper into the REXX rabbit hole - Signal on ERROR messages

2009-03-16 Thread Kris Buelens
Most of my execs do indeed not send their messages to XEDIT (I've got got less than 10 EXECs that do), for exactly the reasons you mention. My former IBM colleague who also worked years for my famous ex-customer, he though had a SUBCOM XEDIT test in his standard REXX skeleton, much to my

Re: Version 4 to Version 5

2009-03-16 Thread Imler, Steven J
Shimon, Was your SFS server up and running when you DDR'd it? If so, it's likely some data changed while your DDR was running causing you to end up with a dirty copy of the FilePool. JR (Steven) Imler CA Senior Sustaining Engineer Tel: +1 703 708 3479 steven.im...@ca.com -Original

Re: Deeper and deeper into the REXX rabbit hole - Signal on ERROR messages

2009-03-16 Thread Phil Smith III
Alan Altmark wrote: Hmmm... I thought we had stamped out this programming idiom several years ago when we introduced DMSCALLR. Most people expect the above snippet to diplay the error in XEDIT if you're in XEDIT when the error occurs. All it really tells you is that XEDIT is active

Re: Deeper and deeper into the REXX rabbit hole - Signal on ERROR messages

2009-03-16 Thread Brian Nielsen
Being a major fan of INTERPRET, I've had to deal with many similar situations - it's a question of the number of the number of indirection levels. I've added a line to your error routine below to display what yo u are looking for. /* */ SIGNAL ON ERROR cmd='CP THIS WILL FAIL' /* There may be

Re: Defining SCSI disk to z/VM

2009-03-16 Thread Robert J McCarthy
Fred, At our site we have our HCD under zOS. We define the fcp devices in zO S as FCP. We use 3390 DASD for linux root and fcp disks for linux data only . I donot define anything special in SYSTEM CONFIG, other than insuring tha t the devices are online at IPL : Online_at_IPL 6000-6FFF

FW: ASSEMBLER-LIST Digest - 14 Mar 2009 to 15 Mar 2009 (#2009-72)

2009-03-16 Thread Phil Smith
More on asynch exits -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [mailto:assembler-l...@listserv.uga.edu] On Behalf Of Automatic digest processor Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:04 AM To: Recipients of ASSEMBLER-LIST digests Subject: ASSEMBLER-LIST Digest - 14 Mar 2009 to 15

Re: I want to know how command line on z/vm.

2009-03-16 Thread Rich Smrcina
When you log on to the z/VM system you are presented with a command line. Do you have a z/VM session with the z9 system? If so, log on with your user id and password. นักรบ SPARTANS Talubthaisong wrote: Dear. Sir I has Operate IBM System z9 Enterprise Class and include z/vm.

Re: Merging DirMaint?

2009-03-16 Thread Dave Keeton
Thank you, David. It was enlightening to discover what 'gerrymander' means. ;-) I appreciate the help. Regards, Dave -Original Message- From: David Kreuter dkreu...@vm-resources.com Reply-to: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: Merging DirMaint?

2009-03-16 Thread Dave Keeton
I have a follow-up question about the EXTENT CONTROL file In my ignorance, I used the same REGIONS naming convention in both production and test. Here's an example: This is the test system: :REGIONS. *RegionId VolSerRegStart RegEnd Dev-Type Comments LNX901 LNX9G6 1

Re: Merging DirMaint?

2009-03-16 Thread Scott Rohling
Any reason you're not just using the volser as the regionid ? Scott On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Dave Keeton dave.kee...@state.or.uswrote: I have a follow-up question about the EXTENT CONTROL file In my ignorance, I used the same REGIONS naming convention in both production and

Re: Merging DirMaint?

2009-03-16 Thread KEETON Dave * SDC
Oh, I was trying to be clever. I thought if I numbered them sequentially I'd be able to keep track of the number of packs I was using. Clearly a failure on my part. -Original Message- From: Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com Reply-to: The IBM z/VM Operating System

Re: Merging DirMaint?

2009-03-16 Thread Ron Schmiedge
Dave, I don't think that merging the two versions of USER DIRECT (which was the answer you got) will have any affect on the EXTENT CONTROL file. What you have on the testbed now will not change unless you get the two EXTENT CONTROL files and merge entries from each. So if you want your new

Re: Merging DirMaint?

2009-03-16 Thread Dave Keeton
Ron, You're right, test is going away. It will eventually become the next release of z/VM at some point later down the road... I just had a 'duh' moment after reading your reply. The scope of the problem is not nearly as big as I thought. In test there are only a couple of Linux guests, as well

I want to know how command line on z/vm.

2009-03-16 Thread นักรบ SPARTANS Talubthaisong
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Re: Merging DirMaint?

2009-03-16 Thread Scott Rohling
Sure -- just do a DIRM RLDE when you're done so DIRMAINT knows the new region names... Scott On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Dave Keeton dave.kee...@state.or.uswrote: Ron, You're right, test is going away. It will eventually become the next release of z/VM at some point later down the

Re: Version 4 to Version 5

2009-03-16 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
You got me! So... I can assume that if I start up after an orderly shutdown, the V5 servers will work right away, with the V4 data, right? Original message Date:   Mon, 16 Mar 2009 07:07:33 -0400 From:   Imler, Steven J steven.im...@ca.com Subject:   Re: Version 4 to Version 5

Re: Version 4 to Version 5

2009-03-16 Thread Kris Buelens
Yes, no problem with SFS, and surely not these day where not too many new things happen to SFS. Even in the past, when SFS detected it used a newer level, it automatically updated its catalog with new fields, no user intervention required. 2009/3/16 Shimon Lebowitz shim...@iname.com: You got

Re: Version 4 to Version 5

2009-03-16 Thread Imler, Steven J
Correct. AFAIK there are no issues with bringing a SFS server down under z/VM 4.n, then bringing it back up on a level of z/VM 5.n ... and then going back if for some reason you had to. JR (Steven) Imler CA Senior Sustaining Engineer Tel: +1 703 708 3479 steven.im...@ca.com -Original

SEGGEN failure

2009-03-16 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
I am trying to rebuild CMSINST, following the directions in 3.17.1 Rebuild the Saved Segments of the 5.3.0 service guide. I 190 CL parm nosprof instseg no AC ( NOPROF AC 5E6 B AC 51D D vmfbld ppf segbld esasegs segblist instseg type (serviced VMFBLD2760I VMFBLD processing started

Re: Version 4 to Version 5

2009-03-16 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
Thank you very much, JR. Any such info about the spool files? At least in one direction? (I have no problem keeping a backup). Original message Date:   Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:17:13 -0400 From:   Imler, Steven J steven.im...@ca.com Subject:   Re: Version 4 to Version 5 To:  

Re: Version 4 to Version 5

2009-03-16 Thread Ivan Warren
Shimon Lebowitz wrote: Thank you very much, JR. Any such info about the spool files? At least in one direction? (I have no problem keeping a backup). SPXTAPE ? --Ivan

Re: Merging DirMaint?

2009-03-16 Thread Dave Keeton
Thanks, Scott! -Original Message- From: Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com Reply-to: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Merging DirMaint? Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:49:04 -0600 Sure -- just do a DIRM RLDE when you're done so

Re: Version 4 to Version 5

2009-03-16 Thread Imler, Steven J
Actually, I don't believe there were any changes to the format/structure of spool files between z/VM 4.n and z/VM 5.n ... only to the way CP handles manipulating them. One notable change is the introduction of DCSSGs with z/VM 5.4 ... but you obviously won't have any of those (yet) anyway.

Re: Version 4 to Version 5

2009-03-16 Thread John Franciscovich
Shimon Lebowitz wrote: Thank you very much, JR. Any such info about the spool files? At least in one direction? (I have no problem keeping a backup). SPXTAPE ? If you are using the same spool volumes and they are defined in the same CP_OWNED slots, and you are using the same checkpoint and

Re: SEGGEN failure

2009-03-16 Thread Bill Munson
Shimon, problem 1 do a Q NSS and you will find an instesg that has been defined/reserved you will need to delete that one before you try it again problem 2 what ever you changed in your instseg has made it too large to load in the instseg space you are defining/reserving. you will need to

Re: SEGGEN failure

2009-03-16 Thread Bill Munson
Shimon, Look in appendix E of the Service Guide. munson 201-418-7588 Shimon Lebowitz shimon...@gmail.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 03/16/2009 03:20 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU

Re: Version 4 to Version 5

2009-03-16 Thread Ivan Warren
John Franciscovich wrote: If you are using the same spool volumes and they are defined in the same CP_OWNED slots, and you are using the same checkpoint and warmstart areas, then you should be able to shut down your old system and IPL the new one with a warm start and have all of your spool

Re: Merging DirMaint?

2009-03-16 Thread Ron Schmiedge
Dave, The Program Directory for DIRMAINT should have a section called Tailor the DIRMAINT Server Machines (I am still z/VM 5.3, you'll have to check the 5.4 version).There's a figure containing a list of supplied sample files. If you've tailored any of them, you'll want to bring them forward from

New CMS based SSLSERV problem... DTCSSL300E

2009-03-16 Thread Wiggins, Mark
I'll start by saying that I have already found, read and preformed all tasks on http://www.vm.ibm.com/related/tcpip/tcsslini.html to no avail. I'm trying to setup the new CMS based SSLSERV for z/VM 540 RSU 0802, but I keep getting the exact error mentioned in the link above. DTCRUN1011I

Re: Version 4 to Version 5

2009-03-16 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Well, for going forward, it works without any issues. My z/VM 5.2 SFS VMSERVU server was initially created on VM/SP 5 and has been thru many upgrades since. (But no down grades). If you have a tape backup of any pool, use Ditto to browse the first block. It will say what version/release of

Re: Version 4 to Version 5

2009-03-16 Thread Kris Buelens
SFS in VM/SP R5??? Normal mortals could not lay their hand on SFS until VM/SP R6. 2009/3/16 Tom Duerbusch duerbus...@stlouiscity.com Well, for going forward, it works without any issues. My z/VM 5.2 SFS VMSERVU server was initially created on VM/SP 5 and has been thru many upgrades since.

Re: New CMS based SSLSERV problem... DTCSSL300E

2009-03-16 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
Mark, What did you put in SYSTEM DTCPARMS or node DTCPARMS for your SSL server? If you want to change anything for :nick.ssl in IBM DTCPARMS, you have to copy the whole section for that nickname to your local file. For example, I wanted to add a session limit and exempt low-strength encryption

Re: New CMS based SSLSERV problem... DTCSSL300E

2009-03-16 Thread Mark Cibula
Hi Mark, I suspect the errors you've encountered stem from somehow referencing a pre-540 SSL 'class' entry -- one that lacks the :runtime.C , :mount. and other tags that define values needed for the 540 SSL server. Please chec k your SYSTEM DTCPARMS file (or any others you've customized) for a

Re: Version 4 to Version 5

2009-03-16 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Ye...you're right. I keep forgetting that on VM/SP 5 we were on FSF and converted to SFS on VM/SP 6. I believe that FSF was File Sharing Facility. Interesting, but compared to SFS, it was garbage. G Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.com 3/16/2009 4:14 PM SFS

Re: New CMS based SSLSERV problem... DTCSSL300E

2009-03-16 Thread Mark Cibula
Dennis (and Mark W) -- Apologies for the somewhat duplicate posting - ran into a browser timeout whilst putting my posting together.. I would like to suggest how one ca n implement DTCPARMS server customizations (building on Dennis' post) to better isolate them, and to lessen the impact of

Austin SHARE Presentations on linuxvm.org

2009-03-16 Thread Mark Post
I've received a few people's presentations so far, so I'll put them up on the web site for starters. Hopefully we'll get more people contributing in the near future. Session Presenter Title 9060Bill Reeder IBM Transformation: Major IT Consolidation Initiative 9111