Sunny,
Instead of having to look into the source directory or directory map, you
can also ask CP directly for the location of any minidisk.
QUERY MDISK USER DATAMOVE 0100 DIRECTORY LOCATION
or a bit shorter: Q MD U DATAMOVE 100 DIR LOC
Ronald van der Laan
This is a plea to all of you with signature lines with all kinds of junk
(like all those preachy quotes you might think others will appreciate) --
and ESPECIALLY those of you with company disclaimers:
Please find a way to post with as clean a signature as you can.
I've run across some posts
Most people emailing from their corporate email have no choice in what is
appended to their email. I also know that many people have no other choice
than to use their corporate email account from within their corporate
network.
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Scott Rohling
Scott:
I agree with you - but, alas, I have no control over the company
disclaimer. It is inserted automatically by the outgoing mail server,
and they have refused to make an exception. Any suggestions?
David Wakser
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
If your company does not allow access to your personal e-mail account from work
makes this request a little bit out of range
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf
Of Scott Rohling
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 9:46 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject:
Yes - I guess I knew what I was asking may not be possible for some. I
guess I should just count myself lucky that IBM doesn't require such
measures and I have access to both intra/inter nets directly.
I've also seen ugly HTML tags .. I use gmail -- hope that isn't showing up
as a mess to some?
I have a simple question about a XEDIT macro.
I have a macro that does a locate and select on some lines and then displays
the selected lines.
My question, is there a way to find the number of lines that have been selected
without counting them as I select them?
EXTRACT '/selectedlines/'
Thanks Richard! I just went into my settings and set it to Unicode
UTF-8..Scott
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Richard Troth vmcow...@gmail.com wrote:
GMail lets you send plain text. I have plain text set as the default
for composition.
-- R;
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:13,
It's still HTML ;)
Marcy
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The directions on installing from VM minidisk in the FTP command where it
directs me to set 'binary f 1028' is the 1028 correct
_
Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync.
Clifford,
I've never seen binary f 1028 used when installing z/VM or downloading
files from IBM, its always been BINary Fix 1024.
Can you explain from where that recommendation came? Is it in a pub, on a
web site, or elsewhere?
Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
clifford jackson
Mike its from the Guide for automated installation and service version 5.4
GC24-6099-05 page 103 ( Install from a VM Minidisk)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 10:50:04 -0500
From: mike.wal...@hewitt.com
Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4 install
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Clifford,
I've never seen
Chapter 6 Second-level DVD Installation Method
Ah hah! That's why I've never seen 'BIN F 1028'... I've never installed
from DVD.
Our network security group won't let us connect a DVD on our laptops to
the mainframe. Installing from the HMC's DVD drive is just not worth the
hassle here.
I'm ftping files from my 1st level system to 2nd level vm. When I pack
them with copyfile, send them binary, unpack them with copyfile CMS tells
me they are not in 'packed' format. What do I need to do to be able to
send them packed. Sending them w/o packing works fine, I want to figure
Maybe we could make a plea to the LSoft support people to add something t
hat
will ignore ALL records in a posting after some well-know trigger. Then w
e
could have our posting, a minimal closing (name, phone#, etc), the trigge
r,
fancy signature block, and corporate disclaimer. And only the
Are you specifying Fixed 1024 in your FTP?
Regards,
Richard Schuh
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Mitchell
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 9:29 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: FTP packed files
Is the packed file Fixed 1024 bytes per block on the receiving and
sending end?
If not, a little pipe procedure would fix it quite easily.
Jim Hughes
603-271-5586
It is fun to do the impossible.
==-Original Message-
==From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
Check out the SET SCOPE command (ie, SET SCOPE DISPLAY) and 'EXTRACT
/NBSCOPE/'. While many of the EXTRACT options can be QUERY'd, the NBSCOPE
option can only be used through EXTRACT. I assume the code below is part of
some larger XEDIT macro since by itself it would have a few bugs.
Of
I'm not. Apparently I'm in need of some ftp education. How is that
accomplished?
Steve Mitchell
Sr Systems Software Specialist
Blue Cross Blue Shield of Kansas
(785) 291-8885
'There are no degrees of Honesty-you're either Honest or you're not!
Enter the BIN command prior to the PUT or GET:
BIN F 1024
Regards,
Richard Schuh
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Mitchell
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:55 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re:
As we no longer have VM at work I only use this from home. However as others
have stated:-
1. Access to personal e-mail is blocked in the office.
2. Disclaimers are added to all e-mail leaving the company by the
firewall.
3. Attempted to circumvent these policies is a
I'm sure you aren't surprised to here that worked perfectly.
THANKS!
Steve Mitchell
Sr Systems Software Specialist
Blue Cross Blue Shield of Kansas
(785) 291-8885
'There are no degrees of Honesty-you're either Honest or you're not!
Glad to have helped.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Mitchell
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 11:28 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: FTP packed files
I'm sure you
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Thomas Kern tlk_sysp...@yahoo.com wrote:
Maybe we could make a plea to the LSoft support people to add something that
will ignore ALL records in a posting after some well-know trigger. Then we
could have our posting, a minimal closing (name, phone#, etc), the
I didn¹t log in for awhile and, due to advancing age (actually a year older
tomorrow too), I¹ve forgotten what I made the MAINT password. And, since
this was also the main password used for almost all the service machines, I
don¹t have any other locations to log into that would help me. I know;
Being a programmer and an INTP (myers-briggs - don't ask) - I hate
redundancy.. so part of my peeve is using space for it when it's
avoidable. I doubt the lawyers would go for it, but it would be nice if a
simple URL were provided (which pre-supposes a public web page) with the
company's
MDISK 01DB 3390 1421 009 540W02 MR
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:36 PM, RPN01 nix.rob...@mayo.edu wrote:
I didn’t log in for awhile and, due to advancing age (actually a year
older tomorrow too), I’ve forgotten what I made the MAINT password. And,
since this was also the main password used for
Happy Birthday! While I don't have access at the moment to a 5.4 system --
the type of DASD you used (3390-3 , 3390-9 ?) will be important for others
to help... (I'll be trying to get to my 5.4 on 3390-9 with everything on
540RES in the meantime to help)
Scott
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 1:36
It would appear that the 1DB disk could be just about anywhere.
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote:
MDISK 01DB 3390 1421 009 540W02 MR
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:36 PM, RPN01 nix.rob...@mayo.edu wrote:
I didn’t log in for awhile and, due to advancing age
Might be time to get the DIRENT package from the IBM VM downloads page:
http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?DIRENT
This reads the object directory so you don't need access to the source
directory..
Not sure if this helps - but maybe..?
Scott
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 1:46 PM,
If he is logged on,
Q MDISK USER DIRMAINT LOC
Marcy
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Oops.
Make that
Q MDISK USER DIRMAINT 1DB LOC
Marcy
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Mine is in the same location
Steve Mitchell
Sr Systems Software Specialist
Blue Cross Blue Shield of Kansas
(785) 291-8885
'There are no degrees of Honesty-you're either Honest or you're not!
Sweet! Thanks for that, Marcy .. that's a new one for me, we've apparently
improved Q MDISK! (or I was just unblissfully ignorant)
Scott
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com
wrote:
Oops.
Make that
Q MDISK USER DIRMAINT 1DB LOC
Marcy
But, if the minidisk is located on a non existing/offline pack -as it
was in this case- CP responds with minidisk does not exist, exactly
the same as for a query of a not existing MDISK record :-(
And, when you've got my DIRME EXEC (part of DRM package) a peek in a
directory definition managed by
You'd even better create a VMARC file, this way the passage through
FTP will not reset the file's dates to the transmission moment:
VMARC PACK infn inft infm SOME VMARC A
VMARC PACK infn2 inft2 infm2 SOME VMARC A (APPEND
Transfer that as BIN F 80, and run VMRAC UNPK
Or, even easier, but
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.com wrote:
But, if the minidisk is located on a non existing/offline pack -as it
was in this case- CP responds with minidisk does not exist, exactly
the same as for a query of a not existing MDISK record :-(
Yes, this bit me
Thanks Bruce that worked.
I found I had Kris Buelens GD-XEDIT package (some pretty cool stuff) so now my
routine looks like this:
'macro all /' machid '/' /* find all matches
*/
command extract '/lastmsg/' /* get the selected count*/
Greetings all,
These are the kind of questions I really hate to see, because many of us know
the answer (or multiple answers) and want to help. Actually, it's those answers
that I hate to see, because, to paraphrase, the root question is basically How
do I hack into a z/VM system? Posting
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Steve Mitchell
steve.mitch...@bcbsks.com wrote:
I'm sure you aren't surprised to here that worked perfectly.
When doing FTP between MVS and VM systems, MODE B # TYPE E does magic stuff.
-Rob
A little bit of social engeneering?
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Mark Wheeler
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 3:30 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Oops and finding passwords on a system...
Greetings all,
These are the kind of
The original question had to do with sending a packed file from 1st level to
2nd level VM systems.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Rob van der Heij
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:31 PM
I understand your premise, but respectfully disagree. We're not going to
increase the security of z/VM by not discussing ways to do things when
necessary. The mirror question to yours is: 'How do I prevent a z/VM
system from being hacked?'. The answer lies in things like:
- Run an ESM (may
Yes, I discovered this shortly after asking. I was able to do this from
OPERATOR, and then use DEFINE MDISK to get access to the disk and see the
USER BACKUP file to get the passwords I needed.
The evil question that comes to mind now is, could an auditor site you
because the operators
I'd say yes if I were an auditor. Encrypted PW requirements are usually
something you find on your company's security policy, an ESM is a necessity on
VM.
Marcy
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Actually, OPERATOR has it by default, though I¹m not sure why it needs it
other than problems like this one.
--
Robert Nix -- Mayo Clinic
On 5/12/09 3:51 PM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com wrote:
- Don't hand out OPTION DEVMAINT indiscriminately (as in this case -- does
OPERATOR
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote:
The original question had to do with sending a packed file from 1st level to
2nd level VM systems.
Right, which is why I offered that option (assuming it was obvious it
works between 2 VM systems as well)
When dealing
I completely understand, but our company applies the disclaimer to the
end of all email. My only choices are to:
1) Fight with the company to have this changed
(somehow).
2) Use a private email account
Personally, neither of the above will work for
According to the help file, The user must be the primary system operator or
the user's OPTION directory statement must include the DEVMAINT option. Does
this not indicate that OPERATOR does not need DEVMAINT?
Regards,
Richard Schuh
From: The IBM z/VM
Absolutely this is a security risk! I would never give OPERATOR DEVMAINT
ability - OPERATOR should have the ability to do particular things and query
particular things -- but not things like see passwords or the get ability to
get to anything they want (e.g. DEF MDISK). If I was an auditor -
There are other ways to passwords besides what has been discussed so far
here..
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Scott Rohling
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 4:00 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Oops and
Wow .. open mouth, insert foot ... it does imply OPERATOR has it by default
- and here I am saying it's a security violation. This is just not my day
:-(
I guess OPERATOR 'is' the failsafe VM userid -- and by rights should have
this ability for recovery. But I wouldn't want my typical VM
From the original z/VM 5.4.0 USER DIRECT
(and yes, the password is exposed - anyone going into production with an
IBM-distributed password *should* be in triple-trouble!):
---snip---
USER OPERATOR OPERATOR 32M 32M ABCDEFG
INCLUDE IBMDFLT
AUTOLOG AUTOLOG1 OP1 MAINT
ACCOUNT 2 OPERATOR
MACH
Hello, all. I have a question. It seems that we are looking into a
virtualized desktop environment (Single Image) on our distributed side.
I kind of laugh at this because that's where we came from with VM and an
OS running under VM (Green Screen) long ago and now it's making full
circle. In VM how
It really depends, Mike. What o/s are these 1000 users going to be
running in the virtual machines, and what applications? If it's CMS
supporting office automation type stuff, then you won't need a lot of
DASD, MIPS, etc. If it's Linux running, say, SAP, then you'll need a lot
of everything.
On: Tue, May 12, 2009 at 01:59:40PM -0700,Schuh, Richard Wrote:
} According to the help file, The user must be the primary system operator or
the user's OPTION directory statement must include the DEVMAINT option. Does
this not indicate that OPERATOR does not need DEVMAINT?
There are many
Recently I built the second z/VM system and turned Dirmaint on.
Now I have a question on how I can let the dirmain on the second z/VM to
know the dirmap on the Dirmain on the first z/VM?
We have over 30 linux servers running on the first z/VM. NO CSE.
I don't want to clear another dasd anymore.
From the HELP file for DEFINE MDISK says the PRIMARY OPERATOR has it. Doesn't
matter what's in the directory or what the userid is. If you are the primary
operator, you've got the ability.
Besides, AUTOLOG, SET SECUSER, and SEND can also be used to look at files on
other users if you have
I've been very interested in this thread, as I'm also trying to set up
the SSLSERV for Telnet sessions. I am also experiencing the same problem
of connections failing. I have tried to use both x3270 under Linux
(using the L:host:992 option) and using Passport to connect using SSL.
Neither
I have never seen 'regions' defined in EXTENT CONTROL as anything other than
the corresponding DASD volser. I can see how it might be used if you were
really into carving up DASD volumes strategically -- but I believe those
days are long gone.
Anyway - I'm putting together some best practices
And every human Operator need class D privclass to handle SPOOL operations.
Some report or data files can be transferred by an Operator to another userid,
viewed there, and transferred back.
It makes me wonder how secret 3-letter US government agencies dealt with
Operator, sysprog, and
Hi Scott: Since the days of wide CMS usage, and device physics, I haven't really configured regions with any degree of sophistication. Not to say it isn't useful. Maybe there's a case for if you have real mod27s or mod54s and you want to code a bunch 3390 mod3 size mdisks, maybe for 2nd level vm's
Hi Dave,
Right - you touched on another thing I'm checking on with code -- volumes
being specified in EXTENT CONTROL - but not attached to the system. Also -
being specified in the directory but not attached. There may be valid
reasons for these conditions, but in general, should be avoided.
Good question -- I know that RACF can be used to control command access --
but I'm not sure it would work on OPERATOR.
I can see the problem: Given that the only accessible user is OPERATOR if
things fail at IPL (RACF doesn't come up, DASD isn't online, whatever) at
the real/HMC console - it
There is a way around all this -- I am using it now. I do not use email t
o
post to this list, I sign on to a web page. My signature is two lines. It
is plain text because the LISTSERV software that provides this web pages
works that way.
The link I use is to read and write here is
I have the DATE function working in order to get the current date into Julian
date format but I'm have difficulty going the other way...Julian date to
standard date such as MM/DD/YY.
I've tried tries a number of ways to format the DATE function to do this
without any success.
I surrender.
Mike--You must be just a kid. I remember installing from 800BPI tapes
and using 556FCI tapes (flux changes per inch). I remember, 30 years or
so ago, taking my son to the data center on a Saturday and him spending
the morning rolling old DTR's (remember them) the length of the floor or
as
For the group (sent this to Howard personally when I did a reply):
Is this what you mean?:
jday = date('J')
Say DATE('U',jday,'J')
On DATE: the first parm is the output format (USA) - the 2nd is the input
date - the 3rd is the input date format.
Scott
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Howard
Dave Wade wrote:
1. Access to personal e-mail is blocked in the office.
2. Disclaimers are added to all e-mail leaving the company by the
firewall...
3. Attempted to circumvent these policies is a dismissible offence
/Disclaimer Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, and any
grin I admit I actually read your disclaimer - hilarious ;-) Thanks
- Scott
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Jack Woehr j...@well.com wrote:
Dave Wade wrote:
1. Access to personal e-mail is blocked in the office.
2. Disclaimers are added to all e-mail leaving the company by the
David wrote:
Also good ole datamove will do the proverbially choke if it is told to go and
format, or clonedisk to a missing volume.
No way... Still? That was when I worked with dirmaint in the late 80's.
No one got a requirement through that it be kinder/gentler to the users since
then??!!??
:-) I've thought the same when specifying DASD types and having weird
sizes due to entries in the DEFAULTS section (or DEFAULTS DATADVH).
Wouldn't a Q DASD DETAILS by DIRMAINT (say during the RLDE command) be
better and avoid user errors?
Scott
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Marcy Cortes
RACF really doesn't control access to a whole lot of commands. CP class overrides will help here. It will audit a whole bunch! But control, no, not really. Once on operator or sysoper id with secuser set to operator: SEND RACF SETRACF INACTIVE; response yes; now your system has fallen back to
When using Mozilla Seamonkey, you can turn on spell checking for any
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2009/5/13 Alan Ackerman alan.acker...@earthlink.net
There is a way around all this -- I am using it now. I do not use email to
post to this list, I sign on to a web page. My signature is two lines.
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