On Tuesday, 09/15/2009 at 04:50 EDT, Marcy Cortes
marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote:
So are you saying that what Lee and I both did to shoot our systems
should
APAR'able? Or should it be a requirement? Or is it going to be a your
gun,
your foot answer?
I was just answering the Is it
2009/9/15 Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com
The same might be said for page space. Someone could access a dataspace
enabled directory and take up page space. We could easily take up 48G of
page space here by starting 24 machines that each access different d/s
directories at 2G each.
Dataspace
You use STOP to avoid new stuff gets placed on the affected disk (TDISK,
Page, Spool). When new stuff is welcome again, you use START. To have CP
read the allocation map, an ATTACH to SYSTEM needs to be done, and that's
impossible when the disk is still attached to SYSTEM.
2009/9/16 Schuh,
Guys,
Thanks for all your help.
Unfortunately management (at MD level) have shot this idea down.
Sometimes, I wonder if there is any commitment at all for the mainframe
platform
Did you also restart VMSERVR?
Nope. I have half a dozen other production fileservers
running with this CRR server. I do not want to do ANYTHING
to upset the apple-cart, and possibly, heaven forbid!!, leave
me with another server dead like YPOOL (which is not
really production).
Does Q
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Les
Shimon Lebowitz wrote:
Original message
o If a class G (only) user can repeatedly or with malice of
forethought
hang or abend CP, it WILL be classified as an integrity
problem (denial of
service).
http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/001035.htm
l
CRR is only required to be active when one wants to update files in two
different filepools in the same LUW, often thus in the same exec.
I don't know if you have applications requiring that, if not, you can
restart VMSERVR. There are also some CRR operator commands -that I don't
know by heart-
I don't think, in this case, it is the user causing the problem at all. The
user didn't define their storage allocation, and in practice can't do that
at all. So the user didn't set up the situation which caused the integrity
issue, the system administrator did.
The system administrator is in
CRR is only required to be active when one wants to update files in two
different filepools in the same LUW, often thus in the same exec. I don't
know if you have applications requiring that, if not, you can restart
VMSERVR.
I also thought like that, but if that is the case,
then why
I can't support DIRECTXA as the sole examination. Paging volumes can be
added at any time. DIRECTXA only gets a change to look when it is run.
If this even needs to be addressed (hence, this thoughtful thread), IMHO
comparing the min and max virtual machine memory specification would be
The OP's line wrapped in the middle of the URL.
Brian Nielsen
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 07:56:42 -0400, Les Koehler vmr...@tampabay.rr.com
wrote:
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Les
Shimon Lebowitz wrote:
Original message
o If a class G (only) user can repeatedly or with malice of
forethought
hang or
And you also have to check during DEFINE STORAGE, DEFINE FB-512, and any
other command or function that creates a pagable CP structure.
Brian Nielsen
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:03:43 -0500, Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com
wrote:
I can't support DIRECTXA as the sole examination. Paging
This gun has been pointing in the same direction forever, but it *is*
a fact that with 64-bit CP the bullets are a lot bigger.
I am sure folks in Edicott are as creative as most of us (or worse,
take a look at ... ;-) but we know that any safety that CP adds will
annoy people because they forgot
In my experience, an SFS server can live without CRR. We only had problems
with a CRR down when an EXEC tried to open files in two filepools; the
second open in Write-mode was refused.
Your problem seems different in that you acnnot even access that singel pool
anymore...
2009/9/16 Shimon
PLUG2
We had about 7 servers in each of up to 18 VM systems to manage, all based
on RxServer, and obviously we were able to do it all from one location.
/PLUG2
2009/9/16 Les Koehler vmr...@tampabay.rr.com
Iirc, Pipes provides the facilities to negate the problem, but I don't
remember the
On Wednesday, 09/16/2009 at 06:21 EDT, Victor Ochoa Avila
vhoa...@gmail.com wrote:
Is correct Alan, I have a problem with ISPF/PDF, when run the command
FLMSAVE
I OBTAIN THIS ERROR
*** AMPXLVEC TXTLIB not
The command is probably DRAIN rather than STOP, is it not? START reverses the
DRAIN.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf
Of Kris Buelens
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:44 PM
To:
On Wednesday, 09/16/2009 at 09:53 EDT, Shimon Lebowitz shim...@iname.com
wrote:
CRR is only required to be active when one wants to update files in
two
different filepools in the same LUW, often thus in the same exec. I
don't
know if you have applications requiring that, if not, you can
If you bought the Dirmaint product or a simular product from another vender,
couldn't a rule be setup to prevent this?
Anyway, there is not gonna be a way of preventing a systems programmer from
doing anything we do. We are suppose to be thinking.
For example, when I initialize, format or
On Wednesday, 09/16/2009 at 09:14 EDT, RPN01 nix.rob...@mayo.edu wrote:
I don't think, in this case, it is the user causing the problem at all.
The
user didn't define their storage allocation, and in practice can't do
that
at all. So the user didn't set up the situation which caused the
I see in your email that the URL was wrapped, and the
final L was moved to a different line.
Try this (I snipped off the obvious http://; part):
itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/001035.html
Original message
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 07:56:42 -0400
From: Les Koehler
Logon would not be the right or only place to put it. DEF STOR is another
possible place to err if the maximum storage was too high. Perhaps a check of
virtual storage at IPL time. That is a common point that must be traversed no
matter where the error occurred.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
Kris,
Your RxServer is more modern than my VMSERVE and has the
advantage of your continual support, which I can't do w/o
access to a VM system. Also, your technical knowledge has
grown since I retired (and so has VM), so RxServe may have
features that VMSERVE wasn't capable of.
VMSERVE is
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote:
Logon would not be the right or only place to put it. DEF STOR is another
possible place to err if the maximum storage was too high. Perhaps a check of
virtual storage at IPL time. That is a common point that must be
You should require accounts.
Further, you should have them controlled by an admin or moderator.
Otherwise any script kiddie at a cafe in Bangladesh could clobber the content.
On 2009-09-16, Mark Post mp...@novell.com wrote:
Cross-posted to Linux-390, IBMVM, and IBM-Main
The idea of having
Cross-posted to Linux-390, IBMVM, and IBM-Main
The idea of having a Wiki (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/wiki) for
mainframe Linux and z/VM has been floating around for some time. It was
thought that having a Wiki with a fair amount of content already in it would
help it reach a
One of the major problems for Wikipedia is that edits are anonymous, or
hide behind a pseudonym. It would provoke more trust if the person's
real name was available.
The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which
it is addressed and may contain confidential
I don't know that I want CP to do anything different than it does now
EXCEPT I want z/VM to a) keep running and b) have some facility that I
can use to be able to examine the system to find/fix the problem... I
don't know/care how that get's done, maybe reserving some page space for
CP and/or a
Thanks Alan, I am going to contact to our contact of IBM to ask for
information to the product.
Regards.
2009/9/16 Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
On Wednesday, 09/16/2009 at 06:21 EDT, Victor Ochoa Avila
vhoa...@gmail.com wrote:
Is correct Alan, I have a problem with ISPF/PDF, when
Is it time already for another rant on the new way to reading books ;-)
I had to look up stuff in one of the z/OS books and landed on the
z/OS V1R9 Information Center - horrible experience, apart from the
content. When you select something on the menu the contents is
refreshed again and moves
On 9/15/09 12:09 PM, Daniel P. Martin dmar...@gizmoworks.com wrote:
*cough*SHARE requirement?*cough*
WAVV requirement WRIBDB04 submitted.
I suggested a SYSTEM CONFIG option and corresponding SET command to warn
user/operator and optionally halt IPL if a user requested LOGON or issued an
IPL
The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU wrote on
09/16/2009 04:31:55 PM:
Rob van der Heij rvdh...@gmail.com
Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
09/16/2009 04:31 PM
Please respond to
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To
I guess as the one who got bit, I'd offer one easy suggestion...
The finger check asked for 9728G (9.7+T), VM unceremoniously chopped it
to 8T as the architecture limit. Why not have an option (not enabled by
default) in the SYSTEM CONFIG file that says Max_Virt_Size. It could
take numbers
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Huegel, Thomas thue...@kable.com wrote:
I don't know that I want CP to do anything different than it does now
EXCEPT I want z/VM to a) keep running and b) have some facility that I
can use to be able to examine the system to find/fix the problem... I
I agree.
On Wednesday, 09/16/2009 at 04:44 EDT, Lee Stewart
lstewart.dsgr...@attglobal.net wrote:
I guess as the one who got bit, I'd offer one easy suggestion...
The finger check asked for 9728G (9.7+T), VM unceremoniously chopped it
to 8T as the architecture limit. Why not have an option (not
I've been trying to follow the discussion and wondering if the
directory control statement
MAXSTORAGE
would have provided some protection from the finger check problem?
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote:
On Wednesday, 09/16/2009 at 04:44 EDT, Lee
Only if it were included in every directory entry, or at least the one in
question. Having a global MAXSTORAGE would be better protection.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Schmiedge
Not really as we were dealing with a lot of guests. So the only
practical place to put it would be in a profile. But according to usage
note #1: A maximum storage setting on a USER statement overrides a
MAXSTORAGE statement in a profile.
So it would have no effect...
Lee
Ron Schmiedge
Unless you set MAXSTORAGE in the profile and used * as the upper limit
in the USER entry. Then if you change the lower limit to be higher
than the setting in the profile, you get an error.
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Lee Stewart
lstewart.dsgr...@attglobal.net wrote:
Not really as we were
There is an option in the SYSTEM CONFIG file to clear the T-DISK. It is
in the FEATURES list and CLEAR_TDISK can be either ENABLED or DISABLED.
The manual states that it clears only cylinder 0 (zero) or the first
eight blocks on the temporary minidisk when it detaches the minidisk. Do
they mean
Stephen,
If you Enable the Clear_Tdisk feature, all system T-disk space is
cleared at IPL time the entire T-disk is cleared when it's detached, and
if you attach a new T-disk volume to SYSTEM, all space on that volume is
cleared. Turn on the feature, IPL, then detach one of your T-disk
volumes
On Wednesday, 09/16/2009 at 07:14 EDT, Gentry, Stephen
stephen.gen...@lafayettelife.com wrote:
Further, and in the same manual, it states that you can clear each
T-DISK
before it is reassigned. It depends on your point of view but this
seems
contradictory. Clear, in my opinion, means
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