Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-15 Thread Gaurav Mishra
On Nov 15, 2007 10:21 AM, मनीष [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raju My biggest grouse with Debian -- they removed apt-setup. Now I have Rajuto Raju add mirrors manually to sources.list if I want to do so after Raju installation. Raju Raju -- Raju (hoping some Debian wizard offers up another tool

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-15 Thread Raj Mathur
On Thursday 15 November 2007 10:21, मनीष wrote: Raju My biggest grouse with Debian -- they removed apt-setup. Now I have Rajuto Raju add mirrors manually to sources.list if I want to do so after Raju installation. Raju Raju -- Raju (hoping some Debian wizard offers up another tool that

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-15 Thread Raj Mathur
On Thursday 15 November 2007 09:53, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:31:41 +0530, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [snip] My biggest grouse with Debian -- they removed apt-setup. Now I have to add mirrors manually to sources.list if I want to do so after installation.

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:14:32 +0530, Shamail Tayyab [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: This is what i consider as flame wars. Err. I am not sure why you think so -- no one is going around attacking other people. But what i think Kazim was trying to say was not actually what it seems, i myself

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-14 Thread Shamail Tayyab
On Nov 14, 2007 2:23 PM, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:14:32 +0530, Shamail Tayyab [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: This is what i consider as flame wars. Err. I am not sure why you think so -- no one is going around attacking other people. But what i

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-14 Thread Kazim Zaidi
On 14/11/2007, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sorry to not be able to help you out here. My desire is to have a dialogue, not to engage in flame wars, so if it is a flame you desire, you have to look elsewhere. Why _would_ you prefer us to flame each other, though,

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-14 Thread Sriram J
On 11/14/07, Shamail Tayyab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 14, 2007 2:23 PM, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is mailing list, with users from across the globe... You are representing the iLugD, what impact does it carry (may be you are trying to show off your knowledge, well i

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:16:15 +0530, Sriram J [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Does ilugd actually have users from across the globe? I thought every one on this list is part of ilugd and therefore represents it. Forgive my ignorance but can anyone tell me what is cross commenting I live

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:51:08 +0530, Shamail Tayyab [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Nov 14, 2007 2:23 PM, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems that i am not that skilled as much as you are, though i think i can answer all the queries, and still can prove my point! Let me go

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:16:21 +0530, Kazim Zaidi [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On 14/11/2007, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As you've quoted in one of your posts in the same thread, there's a choice between variety of choices and simplicity. While Debian would try to provide a

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-14 Thread Roshan
--- Raj Mathur wrote: My biggest grouse with Debian -- they removed apt-setup. Now I have to add mirrors manually to sources.list if I want to do so after installation. Hmm, so you still use Debian GNU/Linux, don't you? (Or have you switch to Ubuntu ;-) ;) -- http://www.gnu.org.in

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-14 Thread Raj Mathur
On Wednesday 14 November 2007 21:00, Manoj Srivastava wrote: [snip] Debian Installer. Could you provide some details? If you did get an empty file, I would like to see under what circumstances the bug is triggered. My biggest grouse with Debian -- they removed apt-setup. Now I have

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-14 Thread मनीष
Raju My biggest grouse with Debian -- they removed apt-setup. Now I have Raju to add mirrors manually to sources.list if I want to do so after Raju installation. Manoj I have never heard of apt-setup. What did it do? http://packages.debian.org/unstable/source/apt-setup

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:31:41 +0530, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Wednesday 14 November 2007 21:00, Manoj Srivastava wrote: [snip] Debian Installer. Could you provide some details? If you did get an empty file, I would like to see under what circumstances the bug is triggered. My

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-14 Thread मनीष
Raju My biggest grouse with Debian -- they removed apt-setup. Now I have Rajuto Raju add mirrors manually to sources.list if I want to do so after Raju installation. Raju Raju -- Raju (hoping some Debian wizard offers up another tool that does Rajuthe Raju job) have you had a chance to look at

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-13 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 13-Nov-07, at 8:13 PM, Manoj Srivastava wrote: I don't agree with someone. Some distros (like Slackware Debian) are more purist-friendly then others so-called user-friendly ones (like Ubuntu). Could you please elaborate? Do you have specifics in mind where Debian is

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:46:49 +0530, Kazim Zaidi [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I don't agree with someone. Some distros (like Slackware Debian) are more purist-friendly then others so-called user-friendly ones (like Ubuntu). Could you please elaborate? Do you have specifics in mind

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-13 Thread Kazim Zaidi
On 13-Nov-07, at 8:13 PM, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Could you please elaborate? Do you have specifics in mind where Debian is either purist friendly or not user friendly, but a Debian derivative has markedly different behaviour? Well, my ignorance doesn't allow me to

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:23:53 +0530, Kazim Zaidi [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On 13-Nov-07, at 8:13 PM, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Could you please elaborate? Do you have specifics in mind where Debian is either purist friendly or not user friendly, but a Debian derivative has markedly

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-13 Thread Shamail Tayyab
On Nov 14, 2007 4:50 AM, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:23:53 +0530, Kazim Zaidi [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On 13-Nov-07, at 8:13 PM, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Could you please elaborate? Do you have specifics in mind where Debian is either purist

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-12 Thread Vikas Rawal
There's nothing really wrong with that distribution cycle. In fact, time based release cycle is a good balance between features and quality. If you're not able to keep pace with the releases, know that they are supported for 18 months. And the LTS (like Dapper Drake) are supported for 18

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-12 Thread Roshan
--- Vikas Rawal wrote: I could be wrong, and if I am, please do correct me. LTS is supported for 18 months. [snip...] LTS is Long Term Support - therefore, LTS (U/Kubuntu 6.06 is supported upto 2009 (36 months) for security (and other) updates fro the desktop edition, whereas the server

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-12 Thread Vikas Rawal
LTS is Long Term Support - therefore, LTS (U/Kubuntu 6.06 is supported upto 2009 (36 months) for security (and other) updates fro the desktop edition, whereas the server edition is supported upto 2011 (5 years). What does support refer to? That Ubuntu provides security patches etc. for this

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-12 Thread Vikas Rawal
For me, the configuration takes about a week. To have a list of packages, I usually Upgrading takes a few hours if you have a good/cheap internet connection. I understand that you can use the alternate-ubuntu-cd to upgrade without needing to download everything while upgrading. I haven't tried

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-12 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 13-Nov-07, at 10:44 AM, मनीष wrote: I migrated to Debian Sid (full-time) in Jan '04 and kept upgrading incrementally till I bought a new computer a few months ago and I still follow the same routine of aptitude update upgrade as and when I need or fancy. I do the same with Mandriva - I

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-12 Thread Kazim Zaidi
On 13/11/2007, मनीष [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] recommendations for a distro when soneone on IRC said if you want to start easy but are willing to face difficulties later, go for $distro but if you are willing to put in some effort in the beginning and have it easy later, go for Debian.

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-12 Thread Raj Mathur
On Tuesday 13 November 2007 10:44, मनीष wrote: [snip] In Dec '03 my system was taken over by virii and I was looking for recommendations for a distro when soneone on IRC said if you want to start easy but are willing to face difficulties later, go for $distro but if you are willing to put in

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-11 Thread Kazim Zaidi
On 11/11/2007, Vikas Rawal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really think these big distribution upgrades every six months are a nuisance. They need to have a strategy that allows more gradual upgrades for about two years, and then perhaps do a full distribution change. I really wish Ubuntu stayed

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-11 Thread Sahil Dave
On Nov 11, 2007 6:36 PM, Kazim Zaidi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/11/2007, Vikas Rawal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really think these big distribution upgrades every six months are a nuisance. They need to have a strategy that allows more gradual upgrades for about two years, and then

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-11 Thread Linux Lingam
On Nov 11, 2007 12:29 PM, Vikas Rawal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: meanwhile, i personally stay away from the 'upgrade distro' route, and just do a fresh install on another partition. this way i can jump back and forth between different versions of ubuntu until it's time to let go of *either*

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-10 Thread Vikas Rawal
meanwhile, i personally stay away from the 'upgrade distro' route, and just do a fresh install on another partition. this way i can jump back and forth between different versions of ubuntu until it's time to let go of *either* one. I would never be able to manage that!! Ubuntu comes with a

[ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-08 Thread Vaibhav Singh
Hello Members, I am trying to update my UBUNTU but due to some bugs this hasn't been possible. The update manager says Cannot download prerequisites while being in the first step i.e. Preparing for upgrade. Please respond if you have any solutions or suggestions. Regards Vaibhav Singh Final

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10)

2007-11-08 Thread Linux Lingam
On Nov 8, 2007 7:42 PM, Vaibhav Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Members, I am trying to update my UBUNTU but due to some bugs this hasn't been possible. The update manager says Cannot download prerequisites while being in the first step i.e. Preparing for upgrade. Please respond if you

Re: [ilugd] Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty

2007-11-08 Thread Mani A
Re Cannot upgrade ubuntu from fiesty fawn(7.04) to Gutsy Gibbon(7.10) (Vaibhav Singh) Hello Members, I am trying to update my UBUNTU but due to some bugs this hasn't been possible. The update manager says Cannot download prerequisites while being in the first step i.e. Preparing for