Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-09-18 Thread Atanu Datta
On Thursday 24 July 2008 16:58:04 Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: +++ Raj Mathur [22/07/08 18:46 +0530]: On Tuesday 22 Jul 2008, Smruti wrote: 1. Is it legal for someone to distribute a Redhat Enterprise Linux copy that he bought from Redhat without any Redhat agreement or restrictions? If yes,

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-08-02 Thread Aditya Sharma
i am member of th generation in question and i had trouble making out what was being said :P On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Mehul Ved [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 5:53 PM, neha sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello frnz...i ve been a membr of dis grp since long

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-24 Thread Praveen A
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 2008/7/23 Smruti : but I deduce from the FAQ that if you have a legitimate copy and you are a member of one of these groups you could distribute it for the cost of CD and handling. I wonder what this non-commercial thing is then for, if not for

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-24 Thread Smruti
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 4:03 AM, Praveen A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only things you can be sure is: a) buy a copy from Red Hat if you want support b) get CentOS if you don't care about support Agreed... -- The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do. ~Walter

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-24 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
+++ Raj Mathur [22/07/08 18:46 +0530]: On Tuesday 22 Jul 2008, Smruti wrote: 1. Is it legal for someone to distribute a Redhat Enterprise Linux copy that he bought from Redhat without any Redhat agreement or restrictions? If yes, than again I get back to my old question which is how will he

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-24 Thread Smruti
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 4:28 AM, Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right, I would also like to know, that since the application themselves are GPLed, is using the trademark argument a mechanism to subvert the rights given in the licence itself? I believe they can if they want to.

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-23 Thread Smruti
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Saurabh Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Other EULAs I've read in the past, specifically prohibit redistribution of binaries. I think Novell made SUSE that way - you couldn't redistribute SUSE 10. Then they had to create OpenSuse to appease the community.

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-23 Thread Arjun Jain
Hi, On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 2:23 PM, neha sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello frnz...i ve been a membr of dis grp since long bt hv been a mere lurker yet..newayz m jus beginning off wid linux nd i ve xp installed on ma machine nd i want to install linux too , can

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-23 Thread Praveen A
2008/7/22 Smruti [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I was going through the EULA of RHEL and found some interesting facts. Here is one of them. (A lot of you might have already gone through this. If so, will truly appreciate your inputs.) * .This EULA does not permit User to distribute the Programs or

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-23 Thread Smruti
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:29 AM, Praveen A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are an educational institution, a not-for-profit organization, a user group, or an individual affiliated with or employed by any of those organizations, Red Hat grants you a trademark license with respect to the RED

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-22 Thread neha sharma
Thank you everyone and i guess i will go with ubuntu. On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Arun Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 22 Jul 2008, Smruti wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Linux_distributions and put it on our website? Put a link to the above material

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-22 Thread Saurabh Jain
Thank you everyone and i guess i will go with ubuntu. Good choice. Months later, when you are more familiar with Linux and try some other distro, you'll wonder why all of them aren't as easy to install and use as Ubuntu :) If you aren't in a hurry, you can visit https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-22 Thread Raj Mathur
On Tuesday 22 Jul 2008, Asif Zaheer wrote: Use REDHAT Enterprise Linux 5.0 or 4 Update 6. Er, you can't get that with updates for free as far as I know. I won't suggest another distribution, let Neha go with whatever distribution s/he has decided on. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-22 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:45:47 +0530 Saurabh Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you everyone and i guess i will go with ubuntu. Good choice. Months later, when you are more familiar with Linux and try some other distro, you'll wonder why all of them aren't as easy to install and use as

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-22 Thread Smruti
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 22 Jul 2008, Asif Zaheer wrote: Use REDHAT Enterprise Linux 5.0 or 4 Update 6. Er, you can't get that with updates for free as far as I know. I won't suggest another distribution, let Neha go with whatever

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-22 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:07:07 -0700 Smruti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Updates I am still wondering if we can GET RHEL for free or not. Can we get the complete RHEL distro (in binary not source) in the first place, for free, without violating any laws?? [...] Most certainly one can.

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-22 Thread Smruti
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 5:21 AM, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most certainly one can. Here are two avenues: I have a few questions in mind on the below mentioned suggestions. (a) Have someone from Redhat give you a copy. 1. Is it legal for someone to distribute a Redhat Enterprise

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-22 Thread Sharninder
(a) Have someone from Redhat give you a copy. 1. Is it legal for someone to distribute a Redhat Enterprise Linux copy that he bought from Redhat without any Redhat agreement or restrictions? If yes, than again I get back to my old question which is how will he get the distro. RHEL can be

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-22 Thread Saurabh Jain
1. Is it legal for someone to distribute a Redhat Enterprise Linux copy that he bought from Redhat without any Redhat agreement or restrictions? If yes, than again I get back to my old question which is how will he get the distro. It is illegal. The binaries are copyright protected. The

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-22 Thread Raj Mathur
On Tuesday 22 Jul 2008, Smruti wrote: 1. Is it legal for someone to distribute a Redhat Enterprise Linux copy that he bought from Redhat without any Redhat agreement or restrictions? If yes, than again I get back to my old question which is how will he get the distro. IANAL, but it's legal to

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-22 Thread Sharninder
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 22 Jul 2008, Smruti wrote: 1. Is it legal for someone to distribute a Redhat Enterprise Linux copy that he bought from Redhat without any Redhat agreement or restrictions? If yes, than again I get back to my old

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-22 Thread Raj Mathur
On Tuesday 22 Jul 2008, Saurabh Jain wrote: 1. Is it legal for someone to distribute a Redhat Enterprise Linux copy that he bought from Redhat without any Redhat agreement or restrictions? If yes, than again I get back to my old question which is how will he get the distro. It is

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-22 Thread Smruti
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IANAL, but it's legal to re-distribute RHEL since RH relies on trademark rather than copyright to protect its operating systems. So you can re-distribute it, but your recipient can't use it since s/he would be violating Red

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-22 Thread Arun Khan
On Tuesday 22 Jul 2008, Smruti wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IANAL, but it's legal to re-distribute RHEL since RH relies on trademark rather than copyright to protect its operating systems. So you can re-distribute it, but your recipient can't

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-22 Thread Smruti
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 6:41 AM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just because the binaries are copyright doesn't mean they can't be redistributed, otherwise no one would ever be able to distribute any software at all -- all software is copyrighted :) Since the licence (not the copyright)

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-22 Thread Saurabh Jain
.This EULA does not permit User to distribute the Programs or their components using Red Hat's trademarks, regardless of whether the copy has been modified. *Courtesy: Redhat http://www.redhat.com/licenses/rhel_rha_eula.html Thanks Smruti. I was going to point the list members to the

[ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-21 Thread neha sharma
hello frnz...i ve been a membr of dis grp since long bt hv been a mere lurker yet..newayz m jus beginning off wid linux nd i ve xp installed on ma machine nd i want to install linux too , can u guyz tell me as to whch vrsion i shld go for nd whr wld i gt d same? hope to

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-21 Thread Mehul Ved
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 5:53 PM, neha sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello frnz...i ve been a membr of dis grp since long bt hv been a mere lurker yet..newayz m jus beginning off wid linux nd i ve xp installed on ma machine nd i want to install linux too , can u

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-21 Thread Sharninder
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Mehul Ved [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 5:53 PM, neha sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello frnz...i ve been a membr of dis grp since long bt hv been a mere lurker yet..newayz m jus beginning off wid linux nd i ve

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-21 Thread Mehul Ved
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Sharninder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Secondly: Wow ! Does the young generation these days actually understand the language you wrote in ? I had to read a couple of words twice to understand the email. Yeah, we get used to it. Maybe some people should create

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-21 Thread Arun Khan
On Monday 21 Jul 2008, Sharninder wrote: Secondly: Wow ! Does the young generation these days actually understand the language you wrote in ? I had to read a couple of words twice to understand the email. Scary isn't it? In a few years, when this gen moves into the work force, this will

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-21 Thread Smruti
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 5:53 PM, neha sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello frnz...i ve been a membr of dis grp since long bt hv been a mere lurker yet..newayz m jus beginning off wid linux nd i ve xp installed on ma machine nd i want to install linux too , can u

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-21 Thread Arun Khan
On Tuesday 22 Jul 2008, Smruti wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Linux_distributions and put it on our website? Put a link to the above material instead of reinventing the wheel. -- Arun Khan ___ ilugd mailinglist --

Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-21 Thread Asif Zaheer
Hi Nena, Use REDHAT Enterprise Linux 5.0 or 4 Update 6. Regards Zaheer. --- On Mon, 7/21/08, neha sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: neha sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose To: ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 7:23 AM hello