Re: iMac purchase justifications (is this really about purchase justification...

2008-09-24 Thread BHealthyAgain
That is the point, as people have been talking about Apple being sued by McIntosh, the amplifier company, and other stuff that is completely off topic, at least IMHO. Not so sure who started that part of it, or even why for that matter. Yes, going back that far is a bit of a stretch in time,

Re: iMac purchase justifications (is this really about purchase justifications?)

2008-09-24 Thread Tom Coradeschi
At 08:57 AM -0400 09/24/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Apple was successfully sued by Apple records for the logo that Apple >uses with the bite out of the Apple. The agreement was that they >could use it as long as they didn't make music. Then they come out >with the Apple IIGS which did a gre

Re: iMac purchase justifications (is this really about purchase justifications?)

2008-09-24 Thread BHealthyAgain
Apple was successfully sued by Apple records for the logo that Apple uses with the bite out of the Apple. The agreement was that they could use it as long as they didn't make music. Then they come out with the Apple IIGS which did a great job of making music and that is what got them sued by

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-24 Thread Tom Coradeschi
At 12:16 AM -0600 09/23/2008, Kyle Parish wrote: >I know also that Macintosh used to be a separate company because I >remember when the merger happened. I believe it was around 1980-82 >that Apple bought out Macintosh, and correct me if I'm wrong but >didn't Apple write Software, and Macintosh ma

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-24 Thread misterbleepy
or maybe he's thinking of the Next company that Steve Jobs founded after he left Apple, before returning to Apple and then buying Next (which apparently paved the way for Mac OSX) 2008/9/23 Clark Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Kyle Parish wrote: >> I know also that Macintosh used to be a separat

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-23 Thread Clark Martin
Kyle Parish wrote: > I know also that Macintosh used to be a separate company because I > remember when the merger happened. I believe it was around 1980-82 > that Apple bought out Macintosh, and correct me if I'm wrong but > didn't Apple write Software, and Macintosh made hardware. It is still

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-23 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sep 22, 2008, at 11:16 PM, Kyle Parish wrote: > > I know also that Macintosh used to be a separate company because I > remember when the merger happened. > I believe it was around 1980-82 > that Apple bought out Macintosh, and correct me if I'm wrong but > didn't Apple write Software, and Ma

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is not correct - Apple never "merged" with Macintosh - Apple II is the computer that made Apple tons of money - and very famous - it was the original one, kind of similar to what was developed in the garage of Woz or Jobs, I forget which. The Macintosh group within Apple was burning through

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-22 Thread Kyle Parish
I know also that Macintosh used to be a separate company because I remember when the merger happened. I believe it was around 1980-82 that Apple bought out Macintosh, and correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Apple write Software, and Macintosh made hardware. It is still the same today, that Apple

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-22 Thread Clark Martin
Kyle Parish wrote: > Not to correct anyone or offend any Mac users, Myself being one. I > would say that Mac has disassociated it's self in the past, with the > PC world by making their hard-ware proprietary to their computers. > like the keyboard and mouse for example, which is how other computer

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-22 Thread BHealthyAgain
I've always wondered if anyone actually paid attention to what I said. Yes, Apple is a hardware company and yes, Apple is a software company at the same time because they don't outsource the writing of the OS to an outside third party, which is what all the other Windows based computer makers

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-22 Thread Steve from Raleigh
>  It goes back to the time we used to call all other > computers IBM compatible. > Actually, it goes back to 1981 when IBM called their early desktop a PC, as in "IBM PC," and used what should have been, and obviously became, a generic term as a brand name. I don't know if they ever tried to tra

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-22 Thread Steve from Raleigh
> Apple is a hardware company that hppens to make the OS that is specific > to their hardware so it fits like a custom tailored suit. Microsoft, on > the other hand, makes the software that runs on everyone's hardware so > it's like buying an off the rack suit. Because that is where they make > th

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-21 Thread Kyle Parish
make a Sun machine > running Solaris, or a box running Linux or any other OS? > > Garth-Original Message- From: Bruce Johnson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, > 19 Sep 2008 12:49:55 -0700 Subject: Re: iMac purchase justifications On > Sep 19

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-21 Thread Kyle Parish
How can I look at one of the old iMac's, say if someone wanted to buy one of them? On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Ramon Tate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, all, > As a long-time reader of this list, I know there are a number of you > out there who tend multiple computer installations, inclu

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-21 Thread Amanda Ward
On Sep 21, 2008, at 7:41 , Al Poulin wrote: > > On Sep 21, 2008, at 3:56 AM, imaclist group wrote: >> >> == 3 of 5 == >> Date: Fri, Sep 19 2008 1:28 pm >> From: Cy >> >> >> >> On Sep 19, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Brian Troisi wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Sep 19, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Kyle wrote: >>> Th

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-21 Thread Al Poulin
On Sep 21, 2008, at 3:56 AM, imaclist group wrote: > > == 3 of 5 == > Date: Fri, Sep 19 2008 1:28 pm > From: Cy > > > > On Sep 19, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Brian Troisi wrote: > >> >> >> On Sep 19, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Kyle wrote: >> >>> >>> The Price for Leopard is what, $199.00 >> Actually the price is $1

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-21 Thread John Callahan
On Sep 20, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > > On Sep 19, 2008, at 5:35 AM, John Callahan wrote: > >>> >>> Hi, >> Does "arch" refer to archetecture? If so it's spelled archetecture. > > Actually, it's spelled 'architecture'... > Thank you, my error. I was just trying to be arch. > >

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-20 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sep 19, 2008, at 5:35 AM, John Callahan wrote: >> >> Hi, > Does "arch" refer to archetecture? If so it's spelled archetecture. Actually, it's spelled 'architecture'... -- Bruce Johnson U of Az College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions don't have opinions, merely custom

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-20 Thread bhealthyagain
19 Sep 2008 12:49:55 -0700 Subject: Re: iMac purchase justifications On Sep 19, 2008, at 11:45 AM, Brian Troisi wrote: > On Sep 19, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Kyle wrote: > >> >> The Price for Leopard is what, $199.00 > Actually the price is $129. The family pack is unnecessary as there

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-20 Thread Cy
On Sep 19, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Brian Troisi wrote: > > > On Sep 19, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Kyle wrote: > >> >> The Price for Leopard is what, $199.00 > Actually the price is $129. The family pack is unnecessary as there is > no licensing. One single install disc can install on up to Unlimited > macs ..

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-20 Thread John Callahan
On Sep 19, 2008, at 12:08 AM, ./aal wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Kathleen Lawrence > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > > > 1) > PC = personal computer > if a mac is not a PC then it must be impersonal ? > > PC refers to hardware, not software. Now that "PC's" and Mac's use th

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-19 Thread Kyle Parish
You can download vista on as many PC's as you want also. All you have to do is lie every time you call to register them. That is why i don't do it. I have only downloaded it on the machine it came with. If you have the family pack and have trouble with it then you will get support if you have a

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-19 Thread Charles Davis
On Sep 19, 2008, at 3:52 PM, Brian Troisi wrote: > > Seriously? I never knew that! Wow! I knew it was true for iWork > because It uses a serial number to activate it like Micro$oft > products. I thought Apple simply trusts you to buy the family pack.. > And somehow THIS SITUATION wasn't a 'Fami

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-19 Thread Brian Troisi
Seriously? I never knew that! Wow! I knew it was true for iWork because It uses a serial number to activate it like Micro$oft products. I thought Apple simply trusts you to buy the family pack.. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are su

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-19 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sep 19, 2008, at 11:45 AM, Brian Troisi wrote: > On Sep 19, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Kyle wrote: > >> >> The Price for Leopard is what, $199.00 > Actually the price is $129. The family pack is unnecessary as there is > no licensing. One single install disc can install on up to Unlimited > macs! No

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-19 Thread Kyle Parish
If you print this email and it's replies, and show them to the people who have the purse-strings, it may help your case. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sep 18, 2008, at 2:16 PM, Ramon Tate wrote: > >> My stance, being the one who set most of thi

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-19 Thread Brian Troisi
On Sep 19, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Kyle wrote: > > The Price for Leopard is what, $199.00 Actually the price is $129. The family pack is unnecessary as there is no licensing. One single install disc can install on up to Unlimited macs! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You r

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-19 Thread Kyle
o: Subject: Re: iMac purchase justifications > > External security in connection to the INTERNET is THE Biggie > > I'm certain that you can find other 'Church Offices' in your area, > that are 'Wintel/Microsoft' operations. It shouldn't take much in th

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-19 Thread bogon
Many thanks to all who replied so swiftly and cogently to my request for justifications for staying with an all-Mac office. Most of the points made were already known, just not defensible by solid evidence from credible sources. I'll continue to watch for others that bolster the points already mad

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-18 Thread ./aal
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Kathleen Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi There, > First and foremost: VirusesPC=185,000 and counting Macs=0that in > itself should be enough! > Ease of use, simple to keep up to date, secure, elegant, and cost effective. > With built-in Bootc

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-18 Thread Kathleen Lawrence
Hi There, First and foremost: VirusesPC=185,000 and counting Macs=0 that in itself should be enough! Ease of use, simple to keep up to date, secure, elegant, and cost effective. With built-in Bootcamp, the PC devotees can run Windows if they must. So, Mac gives you 2 computers, and

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-18 Thread lrbarrios
On Sep 18, 6:48 pm, Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sep 18, 2008, at 4:45 PM, Charles Davis wrote: > > All too often, though what's broke is someobody's brother-in-law who's   > going to sell you the Windows systems...and training...and routine de- > grungifying. > > Windows is a g

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-18 Thread Charles Davis
External security in connection to the INTERNET is THE Biggie I'm certain that you can find other 'Church Offices' in your area, that are 'Wintel/Microsoft' operations. It shouldn't take much in the way of conversation to expose 'Horror Stories'. Then there is always the 'If it ain't bro

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-18 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sep 18, 2008, at 4:45 PM, Charles Davis wrote: > External security in connection to the INTERNET is THE Biggie > > I'm certain that you can find other 'Church Offices' in your area, > that are 'Wintel/Microsoft' operations. It shouldn't take much in the > way of conversation to expose 'Ho

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-18 Thread Janice F. Jorgensen
check out http://techsoup.com/ inexpensive purchases for non profits Janice F. Jorgensen - Original Message - From: "Bruce Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 5:45 PM Subject: Re: iMac purchase justifications > > > On Sep 18

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-18 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sep 18, 2008, at 2:16 PM, Ramon Tate wrote: > My stance, being the one who set most of this up about 4-5 years ago, > is that we (a) don't have anyone to watch over an office LAN all the > time as needed for a Windows-based environment, A Winodws peer-peer lan doesn't require all that much w

Re: iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-18 Thread John G Greenwood
Get the three iMacs refurbished, straight from apple on line, best price, free shipping, best idea. I got a refurbished 24" this spring, and it is a beauty. I work for a small not for profit and maintain a mixed LAN. John On Sep 18, 2008, at 4:16 PM, Ramon Tate wrote: > > Hi, all, > As a lo

iMac purchase justifications

2008-09-18 Thread Ramon Tate
Hi, all, As a long-time reader of this list, I know there are a number of you out there who tend multiple computer installations, including mixed Mac and MS-based PC ones. I would like some justifications/talking points to bolster my view that for a small (3-4 computer) church office, staying