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>
> Hi Kiste,
>
> Nice solution. Hans has options to select from .
>
> BTW. @hans. I made as small error in my hardware receiver solution.
> Capacitor C3 should be 2nF (two 1nF in parallel) but if I where you I would
> try Kiste's solution first. If that works you are done.
>
>
Oh, do I understand that right, that only the direct transmission from sender
Pic to receiver Pic does not work while simultaneously recording audio? In that
case, connect the receiver directly to the sender's output pin, no filter is
needed here. Only a resistor in case the receiver runs on a
On 2022-03-23 I've sent a sample file which i could read without error. Did
you try that? It contains a few lines of text. I think, too low of playback
volume might lead to read errors, or too long strings without pause. Or, of
course, using mp3 or the like at too low bitrate.
Greets,Kiste
gt;> We continue happily, it remains fun.
>>>> regards
>>>> Hans
>>>>
>>>> Op dinsdag 5 april 2022 om 19:57:25 UTC+2 schreef rob...@hotmail.com:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Kiste,
>>>>>
>>>>> Nice soluti
2022 om 19:57:25 UTC+2 schreef rob...@hotmail.com:
>>>
>>>> Hi Kiste,
>>>>
>>>> Nice solution. Hans has options to select from .
>>>>
>>>> BTW. @hans. I made as small error in my hardware receiver solution.
>>>> Capacitor C
options to select from .
>
> BTW. @hans. I made as small error in my hardware receiver solution.
> Capacitor C3 should be 2nF (two 1nF in parallel) but if I where you I would
> try Kiste's solution first. If that works you are done.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Rob
>
> --
&
Hi Hans, sorry for being late...
I had to find the drawings back, didn't know what I designed back then. The
filtering of the sender is a ugly hack. C1 removes DC, so the voltage will
swing form -2,5 to +2,5V. R1/C2 is a low pass filter which has a frequency well
below the transmitted
ade as small error in my hardware receiver solution.
>>> Capacitor C3 should be 2nF (two 1nF in parallel) but if I where you I would
>>> try Kiste's solution first. If that works you are done.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>&
;> try Kiste's solution first. If that works you are done.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> --
>> *Van:* 'Oliver Seitz' via jallib
>> *Verzonden:* dinsdag 5 april 2022 19:12
>>
>> *Aan:* jal...@googlegroups.com
>> *Onderwerp:* Re:
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> *Van:* 'Oliver Seitz' via jallib
> *Verzonden:* dinsdag 5 april 2022 19:12
>
> *Aan:* jal...@googlegroups.com
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [jallib] PWM serial audio transmission
> I have only made small changes in the code and improved the comments. I
> did
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Aan: jallib@googlegroups.com
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I have only made small changes in the code and improved the comments. I did not
try this version, but I'm quite sure
I have only made small changes in the code and improved the comments. I did
not try this version, but I'm quite sure it should work. You only need a PIC, a
resistor, a TTL-Serial converter with a computer and the sample audio file
which i posted earlier to see it working.
(You can even omit
legroups.com namens hans <
> hansvanve...@gmail.com>
> *Verzonden:* zondag 3 april 2022 15:11
> *Aan:* jallib
>
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [jallib] PWM serial audio transmission
> Still foggy, just wait a little longer with this case.
>
> Op zaterdag 26 maart 2022 om 20
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Aan: jallib
Onderwerp: Re: [jallib] PWM serial audio transmission
Still foggy, just wait a little longer with this case.
Op zaterdag 26 maart 2022 om 20:05:55 UTC+1 schreef rob...@hotmail.com:
Hi Hans,
I hope you are getting well soon. Last update. I
gt; Rob
>
>
> Op donderdag 24 maart 2022 om 12:47:49 UTC+1 schreef rob...@hotmail.com:
>
>> Hi Marieke,
>>
>> Thanks for the update. Let's hope Hans recovers soon.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> -------------
Hi Marieke,
Thanks for the update. Let's hope Hans recovers soon.
Kind regards,
Rob
Van: 'Oliver Seitz' via jallib
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Aan: jallib@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Re: [jallib] PWM serial audio transmission
Altijd met Rust
Altijd met Rust...
It took me two weeks to think, code and test, and it will take more weeks for
proper documentation. So no need for you to hurry ;-)
Greets,Kiste
Am Mittwoch, 23. März 2022, 22:36:19 MEZ hat hans
Folgendes geschrieben:
Hello everyone,
My grandfather Hans has only
Hello everyone,
My grandfather Hans has only one usable eye and has got an infection on it.
We have read your contributions and he is very happy with them. Sorry but
he can't work with it right now.
Regards Marieke
Op woensdag 23 maart 2022 om 17:22:42 UTC+1 schreef Kiste:
> And here's the
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Aan: jallib@googlegroups.com
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Congrats Rob, it looks good. :) Perhaps you need a positive feedback to the
comparator ( resistor between comp output to + input) to kill the oscilations
during falling edge? I
hat the CD4046 nicely locked to the incoming signal.
>
> So it seems that this might work but no guarantee .
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Rob
>
> --
> *Van:* jallib@googlegroups.com namens vsurducan
>
> *Verzonden:* vrijdag 18 maart 2022 09:0
ich frequency is generated also known as center
>> frequency.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Van:* jal...@googlegroups.com namens
>> vsurducan
>> *Verzonden:* donderdag 17 maart 20
center
> frequency.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> --
> *Van:* jal...@googlegroups.com namens vsurducan
>
> *Verzonden:* donderdag 17 maart 2022 14:07
>
> *Aan:* jal...@googlegroups.com
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [jallib] PWM serial audio tran
you happy
>> with a dead sparrow"
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> --
>> *Van:* jal...@googlegroups.com namens hans <
>> hansvanve...@gmail.com>
>> *Verzonden:* woensdag 16 maart 2022 09:33
>
t; *Van:* jal...@googlegroups.com namens hans <
> hansvanve...@gmail.com>
> *Verzonden:* woensdag 16 maart 2022 09:33
>
> *Aan:* jallib
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [jallib] PWM serial audio transmission
> Hi Rob, Kiste
> For now I'll stick with the old MIDI approach. I really hop
t;
Kind regards,
Rob
Van: jallib@googlegroups.com namens hans
Verzonden: woensdag 16 maart 2022 09:33
Aan: jallib
Onderwerp: Re: [jallib] PWM serial audio transmission
Hi Rob, Kiste
For now I'll stick with the old MIDI approach. I really hope there will be
anothe
> *Van:* 'Oliver Seitz' via jallib
> *Verzonden:* zondag 27 februari 2022 11:16
>
> *Aan:* jal...@googlegroups.com
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [jallib] PWM serial audio transmission
> Sure, it is a proof-of-concept, not a product. I'm quite sure that 100,
> maybe 500 bytes per seco
februari 2022 11:16
Aan: jallib@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Re: [jallib] PWM serial audio transmission
Sure, it is a proof-of-concept, not a product. I'm quite sure that 100, maybe
500 bytes per second are possible, but the firmware needs to use a diferent
approach.
This list is about libraries
ri 2022 16:20
Aan: jallib
Onderwerp: Re: [jallib] PWM serial audio transmission
Hi Vasile,
In my time a birth was still followed by a placenta, nowadays an iphone comes
after.
A long time ago I was infected by Wouter, Jal is even more persistent than
corona, seehttp://www.voti.nl/setalk/n_in
nk to video: https://youtu.be/49DAT0BQuAc
> <https://youtu.be/49DAT0BQuAc>
> Data via Tone <https://youtu.be/49DAT0BQuAc>
> For more information on JAL, visit: http://justanotherlanguage.org/
> youtu.be
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Rob
> ---
com namens hans
Verzonden: vrijdag 25 februari 2022 16:20
Aan: jallib
Onderwerp: Re: [jallib] PWM serial audio transmission
Hi Vasile,
In my time a birth was still followed by a placenta, nowadays an iphone comes
after.
A long time ago I was infected by Wouter, Jal is even more persistent th
ps://youtu.be/49DAT0BQuAc>
> Data via Tone <https://youtu.be/49DAT0BQuAc>
> For more information on JAL, visit: http://justanotherlanguage.org/
> youtu.be
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Rob
> --
> *Van:* jal...@googlegroups.com namens
ation of the tone so if I
use a tone range to detect the right tone it might work.
Kind regards,
Rob
Van:jal...@googlegroups.com namens hans
Verzonden: vrijdag 25 februari 2022 16:20
Aan: jallib
Onderwerp: Re: [jallib] PWM serial audio transmission
Hi Vasile,
In my time a birth was still fo
t;
> For more information on JAL, visit: http://justanotherlanguage.org/
> youtu.be
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Rob
> ----------
> *Van:* jal...@googlegroups.com namens hans <
> hansvanve...@gmail.com>
> *Verzonden:* zaterdag 26 februari
n cassette speed will result in a variation of the tone so if I
use a tone range to detect the right tone it might work.
Kind regards,
Rob
Van:jal...@googlegroups.com namens hans
Verzonden: vrijdag 25 februari 2022 16:20
Aan: jallib
Onderwerp: Re: [jallib] PWM serial audio transmission
Hi Vasil
; *Van:* jal...@googlegroups.com namens hans <
> hansvanve...@gmail.com>
> *Verzonden:* zaterdag 26 februari 2022 11:37
>
> *Aan:* jallib
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [jallib] PWM serial audio transmission
> Hi, I'm using a 16f1827 with 8 ADC inputs that transmits the posi
ation on JAL, visit: http://justanotherlanguage.org/
youtu.be
Kind regards,
Rob
Van: jallib@googlegroups.com namens hans
Verzonden: zaterdag 26 februari 2022 11:37
Aan: jallib
Onderwerp: Re: [jallib] PWM serial audio transmission
Hi, I'm using a 16f1827 with
might work.
Kind regards,
Rob
Van: jal...@googlegroups.com namens hans
Verzonden: vrijdag 25 februari 2022 16:20
Aan: jallib
Onderwerp: Re: [jallib] PWM serial audio transmission
Hi Vasile,
In my time a birth was still followed by a placenta, nowadays an iphone comes
after.
A long
> that my Apple II did more ore less the same thing - I could give it a try
> to do a proof of concept.
>
> I may have a the problem that I do not have a casette recorder but I could
> fake it by just connecting two PICs to see if that works. The final test
> could then be done by y
an: jallib
Onderwerp: Re: [jallib] PWM serial audio transmission Another piece of text:
So far I've done everything with MIDI. I used one midi channel for the actions
with a general command type. Then 2 data, one for the device nr (16) and one
for the command. (0-128)
This has worked well
to detect the right tone it might work.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------
>> *Van:* jal...@googlegroups.com namens hans <
>> hansvanve...@gmail.com>
>> *Verzonden:* vrijdag 25 februari 2022 16
ge to detect the right tone it might work.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> --
> *Van:* jallib@googlegroups.com namens hans <
> hansvanveldhuize...@gmail.com>
> *Verzonden:* vrijdag 25 februari 2022 16:20
> *Aan:* jallib
>
]
Van: jallib@googlegroups.com namens hans
Verzonden: vrijdag 25 februari 2022 16:20
Aan: jallib
Onderwerp: Re: [jallib] PWM serial audio transmission
Hi Vasile,
In my time a birth was still followed by a placenta, nowadays an iphone comes
after.
A long time ago I was infected
hing you want to do is to record a
>>>> signal or a sequence of signals on a casette player that can be used to
>>>> trigger something when the recording is played back right?
>>>>
>>>> If my initial suggestion would work - which may work since I
;>>> trigger something when the recording is played back right?
>>>>
>>>> If my initial suggestion would work - which may work since I have the
>>>> idea that my Apple II did more ore less the same thing - I could give it a
>>>> try to do a proof
idea that my Apple II did more ore less the same thing - I could give it a
>>> try to do a proof of concept.
>>>
>>> I may have a the problem that I do not have a casette recorder but I
>>> could fake it by just connecting two PICs to see if that works. The
ck right?
>>>
>>> If my initial suggestion would work - which may work since I have the
>>> idea that my Apple II did more ore less the same thing - I could give it a
>>> try to do a proof of concept.
>>>
>>> I may have a the problem that I do not have a casette recorder but I
>&g
t;>
>> I may have a the problem that I do not have a casette recorder but I
>> could fake it by just connecting two PICs to see if that works. The final
>> test could then be done by you.
>>
>> Which PIC type are you using?
>>
>> Kind regards,
&
Which PIC type are you using?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> --
> *Van:* jallib@googlegroups.com namens hans <
> hansvanveldhuize...@gmail.com>
> *Verzonden:* donderdag 24 februari 2022 17:07
> *Aan:* jallib
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [ja
hans
Verzonden: donderdag 24 februari 2022 21:46
Aan: jallib
Onderwerp: Re: [jallib] PWM serial audio transmission
Hi Rob an Kiste,
I'm glad you want to help me. To be clear, except that my aging body is also
slowing down, the gray knit from above is not so easy anymore. Besides the
little ones
ld then be done by you.
>
> Which PIC type are you using?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> --
> *Van:* jal...@googlegroups.com namens hans <
> hansvanve...@gmail.com>
> *Verzonden:* donderdag 24 februari 2022 17:07
> *Aan:* ja
type are you using?
Kind regards,
Rob
Van: jallib@googlegroups.com namens hans
Verzonden: donderdag 24 februari 2022 17:07
Aan: jallib
Onderwerp: Re: [jallib] PWM serial audio transmission Another piece of text:
So far I've done everything with MIDI. I used one midi channel for the actions
using?
Kind regards,
Rob
Van: jallib@googlegroups.com namens hans
Verzonden: donderdag 24 februari 2022 17:07
Aan: jallib
Onderwerp: Re: [jallib] PWM serial audio transmission
Another piece of text:
So far I've done everything with MIDI. I used one midi
gt; since you only want a kind of trigger signal
>>
>> But maybe the first solution is more doable. Just give it a try.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Rob
>>
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>> *Verzonden:*
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> *Verzonden:* woensdag 23 februari 2022 09:58
> *Aan:* jal...@googlegroups.com
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [jallib] PWM serial audio transmission
>
> Hi Hans,
>
> 20 years ago I would have suggested using DTMF, but the decoder chips are
> rare these days...
>
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Hi Hans,
20 years ago I would have suggested using DTMF, but the decoder chips are rare
these days...
PIC controllers
Hi Hans,
20 years ago I would have suggested using DTMF, but the decoder chips are rare
these days...
PIC controllers include various peripherals which can be used to encode and
decode DC-free signals (which, apart from the frequency below, say, 10kHz, is
the requirement to be recorded as
Hello everyone,
I have been trying for a long time to place a serial signal on one track of
an audio recording which I can read afterwards. To make all kinds of things
happen at the same time as the audio is played. I have now tried to do this
with the old modem system ( TCM3105) but it failed
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