Hi Lyn
Re: Subject: [lace] Ancillary to Teaching Lace to Children
Teaching lace to children is part of the survival of lacemaking. I have
always thought that lacemaking, especially geometric Torchon, has the ability
to help the mind work mathematically..
I am sure you are right. The best
I am one of those computer programmers and math types. I love making Pag
needlelace because of the logic and geometric properties of it. In this part
of my career, I no longer program but the lace fills that spot. I have had
the same experience with demonstrating, the little boys pick it up
I am one of those computer programmers and math types. I love making Pag
needlelace because of the logic and geometric properties of it. In this part
of my career, I no longer program but the lace fills that spot. I have had
the same experience with demonstrating, the little boys pick it up
Dear Alex et al,
Precisely. It could be an 'in' at schools. I have not had any close
connection with school children for over 10 years, but girls especially are
not inclined to math. Presenting lacemaking, especially bobbin lacemaking
as a way to develop spatial thinking, (physics?) or
I was lucky enough to demonstrate with my local group at a recent 'county'
event. One of the group brought a 'have a go' pillow along and we asked anyone
passing if they would like to try lacemaking.
Adults and children alike tried the pillow. The adults would do a row and stop
but the
I am astonished that no one has challenged the notion that people with
superior math/science/computer programming skills make the best
lacemakers!! It may be that those who are making the claims happen to
have those skills, but being able to execute a lace pattern is not the
same as making it
I no longer have a child in school, but I was talking to an elementary
school teacher the other day. She made the interesting claim that now that
penmanship is being de-emphasized in favor of key boarding, she observes that
the children are not developing fine motor skills as in the past. In
Dear Clay, et al,
So, which horizons specifically would be broadened? If one is trying to
promote lacemaking as a skill capable of developing other capabilities of the
mind, to persuade educators and others to help with teaching children by
promoting the craft, providing space, all that, one
Dear Clay, et al,
That is not what was said. The point is that many women whose minds are
mathematically, etc. inclined are drawn to lacemaking. That is, of course, not
the only group drawn to the craft, but there seems to be a fairly large number
of such math, etc. types who are drawn.
It seems as though Scandinavian schools, in the past at least, had a
crafts curriculum. When I was young a girl moved to our neighborhood from
Norway. She had a complete set of doll clothes that she had knitted. When I
asked
her about it, she said she had knitted them in school. Why don't
Just a note that when we label people or try to slot folks into a groove,
there is always the exception. while it makes good fodder, we usually are
narrow minded ourselves to think that only certain capabilities create
certain things.
last was the folks who lurk now it is mathmatically inclined.
I wouldn't try to promote lacemaking as a way to develop other tangible life
skills. The outcome is entirely dependent on the individual. What excites
one person may drive another crazy. Don't let lacemaking go the same route as
the forced piano lessons of childhood!
Clay
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Hi Clay
In my experience those with a maths bias tend to be more accurate and can
understand how the threads work. In the many years I have been teaching I have
come across many who show this ability and who should have been good at maths,
but sadly for some reason or other it did not happen.
I dont know about lacemaking but when my daughter was about eight I
volunteered to teach some children to crochet and I sat around a circular
table with several girls helping each one to get the hang of how to make it
work, even managing to change hands and do it left handed for one little
Hello Clay and everyone
Yes, learning to make lace is best by choice. I like this :
... Don't let lacemaking go the same route as the forced piano lessons of
childhood!
--
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada
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Hi Sue and fellow Arachnids,
Have you tried showing a left-hander a technique in the mirror. It works for
some though not for all.
Happy lace making,
Joepie, in sunny East Sussex.
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From: Sue
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 6:13 PM
Cc: lace@arachne.com
Subject: Re:
Yes, but didn't this start out as a conversation about how to make that
choice available to children in the face of an unsympathetic school district
that would not allow the posting of an A2 piece of paper announcing the
availability of children's lace lessons?
Devon
Hello Clay and
Hi all
As a non mathematical person I feel I must comment from those of us who are
mathematically challenged. I like to think I am a reasonable lacemaker, I can
draw out patterns on graph paper and use a lace design programme and I teach
students how to draw out patterns to help understand
Good evening
I have spent the last two days demonstrating lacemaking at our local garden
centre which is really a converted greenhouse on what is probably the hottest
weekend on this year's English summer and am happy to say that not only did we
encourage one teenager yesterday to make a fish
I knew there was a way but not on that day.
Sue T
Hi Sue and fellow Arachnids,
Have you tried showing a left-hander a technique in the mirror. It works for
some though not for all.
Happy lace making,
Joepie, in sunny East Sussex.
I dont know about lacemaking but when my daughter was about
Well done! I hope they do come to your group.
Joepie.
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From: Maureen
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 8:28 PM
To: dmt11h...@aol.com
Cc: lace@arachne.com
Subject: Re: [lace] Teaching children
Good evening
I have spent the last two days demonstrating lacemaking at our
Thanks to Lauren, who tipped me off that this discussion was going on! I
don't know if my experiences and thoughts might be useful, but here they
are, in no particular order:
I teach students to use computers in a small, private elementary school.
Because it is private, we are not tied to the
Gentle Spiders,
I am sorry to report to you that Ruth Budge's husband, Cliff, died four weeks
ago after a fourteen year battle with Alzheimer's. I know she would be
comforted by your notes to her. Her email address is
thelacema...@optusnet.com.au
Many of you know Ruth for her valuable work
Dear Maureen,
Congratulations on a job well done. That took a lot of work, preparing and
then being there, enticing, saying the right thing, encouraging. That is the
way we will get our beloved craft/art to continue. Lyn
Maureen wrote:
I have spent the last two days demonstrating lacemaking
Dear Maureen, et al,
I can't add, subtract, multiply and divide worth anything. I can do it, but I
don't like to. I thank God for calculators. In my opinion they spoil math by
putting numbers in. But it does seem to me that there are a lot of math types
making lace. Whether their lace is
On 7/07/13 11:13 PM, Clay Blackwell wrote:
I am astonished that no one has challenged the notion that people with
superior math/science/computer programming skills make the best
lacemakers!!
I've just logged on and yes I was totally affronted with that statement
too. Let me put it in
Thanks, Anna!! I appreciate another voice who understands what I have
said!! Generalities just don't apply to those who are skilled at making
lace!
Clay
On 7/7/2013 8:03 PM, Anna Binnie wrote:
On 7/07/13 11:13 PM, Clay Blackwell wrote:
I am astonished that no one has challenged the
If we get the lacemaking club to be on a par with the chess club, we will
have succeeded beyond my wildest dreams. Probably beyond the wildest
dreams of anyone. Let's begin by getting schools to allow a poster
advertising a separate lace club. What skills does lacemaking develop
that will
In the past I taught dozens of children from about age 5 years through
teens to make bobbin lace. The most fun was with a group of 10 six grade
boys. The teacher said Good Luck and closed the door! These 12-year old
boys made their own lace tell and had great rhythm and were extremely proud
of
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