Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

William Oliveira Ferreira schrieb: 2012/12/4 Hans-Peter Diettrich > But one option should be feasable, to turn on/off an already installed DockMaster on the fly - *similar to the Delphi Un/Docked layout option*. DoDi This is precisely the point

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

Martin schrieb: On 05/12/2012 23:05, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Steps to reproduce: 1. Get an narrow and an wide monitor, e.g. CRT and Flatscreen. 2. Attach both to your computer, the wide one as secondary monitor. 3. Configure the wider monitor to have negative Y coordinates. 4. Make Lazarus

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

On 05/12/2012 23:05, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Steps to reproduce: 1. Get an narrow and an wide monitor, e.g. CRT and Flatscreen. 2. Attach both to your computer, the wide one as secondary monitor. 3. Configure the wider monitor to have negative Y coordinates. 4. Make Lazarus use the EasyDockM

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

Martin schrieb: On 05/12/2012 17:13, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Martin schrieb: There's only one problem with window positions, which are not handled properly when the screen coordinates (of top/left monitors) become negative. The IDE main form also may span multiple (left/right) monitors,

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

Martin Schreiber schrieb: May I recommend a third solution than fully docked/undocked? MSEide has a menu item 'View'-'Panels'-'New Panel' which creates a new empty dock container where tool windows and other panels can be placed. So one can create groups of windows which can be layered or tabb

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

On 05/12/2012 17:13, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Martin schrieb: There's only one problem with window positions, which are not handled properly when the screen coordinates (of top/left monitors) become negative. The IDE main form also may span multiple (left/right) monitors, what's not always

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

Juha Manninen schrieb: On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 8:22 PM, leledumbo wrote: If you have some time and skills, you better try to integrate KZDesktop (form designer docking + automatic object inspector/code explorer switching), EasyDockManager (full layout saving) and AnchorDocking/GlassDocking (beau

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

Martin schrieb: There's only one problem with window positions, which are not handled properly when the screen coordinates (of top/left monitors) become negative. The IDE main form also may span multiple (left/right) monitors, what's not always desireable, and the according configuration opti

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

Sven Barth hat am 5. Dezember 2012 um 11:19 geschrieben: > Am 05.12.2012 05:30, schrieb Martin Schreiber: > > Am 04.12.2012 06:59, schrieb Felipe Ferreira da Silva: > >> I would like to propose and discuss about a new graphical user interface > >> for the next major releases. Nowadays, most of th

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

2012/12/4 Hans-Peter Diettrich > > But one option should be feasable, to turn on/off an already installed > DockMaster on the fly - *similar to the Delphi Un/Docked layout option*. > > DoDi > This is precisely the point I was talking about! How can we think of something about it if we don't know

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

Am 05.12.2012 05:30, schrieb Martin Schreiber: Am 04.12.2012 06:59, schrieb Felipe Ferreira da Silva: I would like to propose and discuss about a new graphical user interface for the next major releases. Nowadays, most of the RAD tools use a docked interface(MonoDevelop, Delphi, VS), and in some

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

Am 04.12.2012 06:59, schrieb Felipe Ferreira da Silva: I would like to propose and discuss about a new graphical user interface for the next major releases. Nowadays, most of the RAD tools use a docked interface(MonoDevelop, Delphi, VS), and in some cases they are stylish(like the recent Visual S

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

Felipe Ferreira da Silva schrieb: I would like to propose and discuss about a new graphical user interface for the next major releases. Nowadays, most of the RAD tools use a docked interface(MonoDevelop, Delphi, VS), and in some cases they are stylish(like the recent Visual Studio ver

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

Felipe Ferreira da Silva schrieb: On 12-04-2012 09:31, Martin wrote: Anyway, "improved with appropriated features": Which ones do you think can not be done in a package? (Assuming that all needed methods and hooks, are added to IDEIntf)? But wouldn't be easier make direct implementations on the

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

On 05/12/2012 00:15, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: I'm using Lazarus across multiple monitors since years :-) What problem do you expect with forms spanning multiple monitors, except for the frames around the screens? There's only one problem with window positions, which are not handled prope

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

William Oliveira Ferreira schrieb: I think a good way to solve that is selecting a default dock manager (Easy Dock Manager or AnchorDocking) and make it installed as default for new instalations. It's a pity that installing these packages requires to rebuild the IDE, so that a distribution ca

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

Felipe Ferreira da Silva schrieb: This multi-monitor idea is cool! But probably would work only in the "undocked mode", I don't see how I could implement a single-window application with support for a multi-monitor. I'm using Lazarus across multiple monitors since years :-) What problem do y

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho schrieb: On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: Which source editor? The default install comes with 1 source editor. If someone sets up multiple then he is not using the defaults. Do you want to only change defaults, or to allow for a user custo

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

Avishai schrieb: I agree with Michael. I tried AnchorDocking and it did not work for me. I need to be able to change values in the Property Editor and see the Form at the same time. I could not do that with Docking. It should be up to the user, to dock the windows as desired. If you are not

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 8:22 PM, leledumbo wrote: > If you have some time and skills, you better try to integrate KZDesktop (form > designer docking + automatic object inspector/code explorer switching), > EasyDockManager (full layout saving) and AnchorDocking/GlassDocking > (beautiful interface).

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

Not everyone is comfortable with the so-called docked interface. usually I prefer non-docked, but the non-docked Lazarus interface completely sucks (at least on xfce): - all Lazarus windows have the same icon, so you cannot jump fast with alt+tab to them - => it takes forever to find the

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

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Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

What is important for me is the height of the Editor window. I want to have as much as possible text visible in the editor. So any new interface should concentrate on putting things on de left and right site of the screen. With the editor maximised in the centre. The current Lazarus IDE does t

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

On 4-12-2012 15:46, Massimo Soricetti wrote: > Another cool useful thing: tabbed compiler messages window. > Now Lazarus (as many other IDEs) reports a lot of unimportant messages > mixed with those really interesting, i.e. I'm not interested in compiler > info or warnings if there are compiler err

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

Il 04/12/2012 13:55, Felipe Ferreira da Silva ha scritto: 2) I agree that the interface of VS and Eclipise(which is very ugly) is for big displays... but look at your display! It is big, mine is only 1024x768. Don't you think that the title-bar of each windows on Lazarus is a unused space? We

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, Junior wrote: To change one thing in Lazarus is a torture some time ago was requested to implement an option where (on Linux) the TForm stay over the Code Editor (as in Windows). Add an option for anyone who so desire. Even today, years have passed, and this option does

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

To change one thing in Lazarus is a torture some time ago was requested to implement an option where (on Linux) the TForm stay over the Code Editor (as in Windows). Add an option for anyone who so desire. Even today, years have passed, and this option does not exist. It sounds like a joke b

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, Martin wrote: On 04/12/2012 12:59, Martin wrote: On 04/12/2012 12:44, Felipe Ferreira da Silva wrote: On 12-04-2012 09:31, Martin wrote: Anyway, "improved with appropriated features": Which ones do you think can not be done in a package? (Assuming that all needed methods

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

I am in full agreement with this new user interface. Em 04-12-2012 09:44, Felipe Ferreira da Silva escreveu: On 12-04-2012 09:31, Martin wrote: Anyway, "improved with appropriated features": Which ones do you think can not be done in a package? (Assuming that all needed methods and hooks, are

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

On 04/12/2012 12:59, Martin wrote: On 04/12/2012 12:44, Felipe Ferreira da Silva wrote: On 12-04-2012 09:31, Martin wrote: Anyway, "improved with appropriated features": Which ones do you think can not be done in a package? (Assuming that all needed methods and hooks, are added to IDEIntf)? Bu

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

On 04/12/2012 10:23, Massimo Soricetti wrote: Il 04/12/2012 06:59, Felipe Ferreira da Silva ha scritto: Things like dockable windows, skins or other bells & whistles are not really important to me, and probably to many developers. I never tried if Laz supports multi-monitor displays, but that

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

Felipe Ferreira da Silva hat am 4. Dezember 2012 um 13:44 geschrieben: > On 12-04-2012 09:31, Martin wrote: > > Anyway, "improved with appropriated features": Which ones do you think > > can not be done in a package? (Assuming that all needed methods and > > hooks, are added to IDEIntf)? > But wo

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

On 04/12/2012 12:44, Felipe Ferreira da Silva wrote: On 12-04-2012 09:31, Martin wrote: Anyway, "improved with appropriated features": Which ones do you think can not be done in a package? (Assuming that all needed methods and hooks, are added to IDEIntf)? But wouldn't be easier make direct imp

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

Em 04-12-2012 08:23, Massimo Soricetti escreveu: I use Lazarus every now and then, generally I work on Eclipse or Visual Studio. FYI, I deeply hate the "stylish" VS 2010 interface, because: 1) it hides and/or changes position to many things I use 2) eats up too much screen surface (same for Ecl

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

On 12-04-2012 09:31, Martin wrote: Anyway, "improved with appropriated features": Which ones do you think can not be done in a package? (Assuming that all needed methods and hooks, are added to IDEIntf)? But wouldn't be easier make direct implementations on the IDE instead of make constant adap

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

Em 04-12-2012 08:55, Anders E. Andersen escreveu: The non-docked ui look really old fashioned to me. I like everything to be in its own place always so there is no reason for me personally to want to be able to move windows around. Fully supported. - Anders I think the same, and I place the

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

Hi, I use a 13" Labtop to develop with Lazarus.  (with AnchorDocking). And please forget about this uggly stupid Ribbon-Style (as introduced with Office2007). Just my oppinion. And as already mentioned in other statements: Style "changes/ has to change" in commercial products for marketing r

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

Well, the good thing is to give the two modes of GUI, the classic with floating-forms and the docked. So the user could make the choice. About the AnchorDocking. I am planing to use it, but I will modify. I have made some modifications already (the title bars of the dockable forms is nice now

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

Well, the good thing is to give the two modes of GUI, the classic with floating-forms and the docked. So the user could make the choice. About the AnchorDocking. I am planing to use it, but I will modify. I have made some modifications already (the title bars of the dockable forms is nice now

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

т: Felipe Ferreira da Silva Относно: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus До: lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org Изпратено на: Вторник, 2012, Декември 4 07:59:53 EET I would like to propose and discuss about a new graphical user

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

On 04/12/2012 05:59, Felipe Ferreira da Silva wrote: I would like to propose and discuss about a new graphical user interface for the next major releases. Nowadays, most of the RAD tools use a docked interface(MonoDevelop, Delphi, VS), and in some cases they are stylish(like the recent

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

On 04/12/2012 08:46, Avishai wrote: I agree with Michael. I tried AnchorDocking and it did not work for me. I need to be able to change values in the Property Editor and see the Form at the same time. I could not do that with Docking. You must remember AnchorDocking is not yet complete, it is

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

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Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

I think a good way to solve that is selecting a default dock manager (Easy Dock Manager or AnchorDocking) and make it installed as default for new instalations. But today, I agree that we have some more important issues to think about (ex.: Dynamic component loading) Felipe, se você tiver alguma p

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

Today, it can be done via AnchorDocking. Just dock only the message Window on Source Window and disable those bevels used as drag surface... 2012/12/4 Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho > One thing to consider for diminishing the number of windows in Lazarus > would be by default merging the messages i

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

The non-docked ui look really old fashioned to me. I like everything to be in its own place always so there is no reason for me personally to want to be able to move windows around. Fully supported. - Anders Den 04-12-2012 06:59, Felipe Ferreira da Silva skrev: I would like to propos

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: > Which source editor? The default install comes with 1 source editor. If someone sets up multiple then he is not using the defaults. -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho -- ___ Lazarus mailing list

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

On 4-12-2012 11:39, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: > One thing to consider for diminishing the number of windows in Lazarus > would be by default merging the messages into the Source Editor. That > would make 1 less window and most people always keeps it under the > source editor anyway. That

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho hat am 4. Dezember 2012 um 11:39 geschrieben: > One thing to consider for diminishing the number of windows in Lazarus > would be by default merging the messages into the Source Editor. That > would make 1 less window and most people always keeps it under the > source

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

One thing to consider for diminishing the number of windows in Lazarus would be by default merging the messages into the Source Editor. That would make 1 less window and most people always keeps it under the source editor anyway. -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho --

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

Il 04/12/2012 06:59, Felipe Ferreira da Silva ha scritto: My propose is ask if you guys would mind if I work on some projects with a different interface and made in Lazarus(of course) to you evaluate. I'm good at create components and customize to give them a stylish appearance like in

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

I prefer the multiwindow approach too, although i mostly align the windows in tiles that could theoretically be done in a docked window. I tried the dock manager (AnchorDocking i think) but i found two problems that made me not stick to it: 1. The form designer wasn't part of the docked window wh

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

I agree with Michael. I tried AnchorDocking and it did not work for me. I need to be able to change values in the Property Editor and see the Form at the same time. I could not do that with Docking. On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 10:40 AM, wrote: > > > On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, Felipe Ferreira da Silva wro

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, Felipe Ferreira da Silva wrote: I would like to propose and discuss about a new graphical user interface for the next major releases. Nowadays, most of the RAD tools use a docked interface(MonoDevelop, Delphi, VS), and in some cases they are stylish(like the recent

[Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

I would like to propose and discuss about a new graphical user interface for the next major releases. Nowadays, most of the RAD tools use a docked interface(MonoDevelop, Delphi, VS), and in some cases they are stylish(like the recent Visual Studio versions). I think that a better-lookin