On Sat, 2008-03-08 at 00:42 +0100, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
> On Friday 07 March 2008 18:55:23 Mike Noyes wrote:
> > Everyone,
> > We seem to have agreement on a name switch from Firewall to Framework. I
> > think we can make this change now, and continue work on a description
> > for later adoption.
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| Everyone,
| We seem to have agreement on a name switch from Firewall to Framework. I
| think we can make this change now, and continue work on a description
| for later adoption. Is this acceptable?
|
| Mike Noyes +1
Charles Steinkuehler +1
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> Of Mike Noyes
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 5:55 PM
> To: leaf-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [leaf-devel] Project description
>
> On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 18:
On Friday 07 March 2008 18:55:23 Mike Noyes wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 18:58 +0100, Martin Hejl wrote:
> > > I agree with you, that the main usage scenario is to build a network
> > > appliance with LEAF and most of them also acting as firewall.
> > >
> > > Anyway I think it has grown from a "f
Hi Mike,
> "LEAF - Linux Embedded Appliance Framework"
>
> Everyone,
> We seem to have agreement on a name switch from Firewall to Framework. I
> think we can make this change now, and continue work on a description
> for later adoption. Is this acceptable?
fine with me
Martin
On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 18:58 +0100, Martin Hejl wrote:
> > I agree with you, that the main usage scenario is to build a network
> > appliance
> > with LEAF and most of them also acting as firewall.
> >
> > Anyway I think it has grown from a "firewall" to a "framework".
> That's something I have
Hi kp,
> I agree with you, that the main usage scenario is to build a network
> appliance
> with LEAF and most of them also acting as firewall.
>
> Anyway I think it has grown from a "firewall" to a "framework".
That's something I have no issues with - even though, that seems to a
change be t
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 23:05:03 Martin Hejl wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
> > I always preferred the second one and that's, what I started with to
> > enhance/change it:
> >
> > "LEAF is a Linux Embedded Appliance Framework.
> > Branches provides various appliance-oriented tasks:
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 03:18 pm, Mats Erik Andersson wrote:
[...]
> *) A recursive description may be intellectually pleasing, but
> is never estetically pleasing, and anyway the borderline
> to ridicule is not constant among people encountering the
> particular notion. The nee
Hi all,
KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
> I always preferred the second one and that's, what I started with to
> enhance/change it:
>
> "LEAF is a Linux Embedded Appliance Framework.
> Branches provides various appliance-oriented tasks: LAN/WAN router, Internet
> border router/firewalls, wireless acces
Hello folks,
two short observations:
*) By eliminating the abreviations " (WAP)", " (NAS/SAN)" sixteen
characters can be put to better use, since these are so well
known. I see more merit in keeping PBX since it is not built
from initials only.
*) A recursive description may b
Victor McAllister wrote:
> LEAF (Linux Embedded Appliance Framework) is targeted at
> appliance-oriented tasks such as: LAN/WAN router/ border router/
> firewall, wireless access point (WAP), network attached storage
> (NAS/SAN), Private Branch eXchange (PBX), and telemetry box.
LEAF (LEAF Emb
Mike Noyes wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-03-03 at 14:53 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 21:21 +0100, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
>>
>>> I always preferred the second one and that's, what I started with to
>>> enhance/change it:
>>>
>>> "LEAF is a Linux Embedded Appliance Framework.
On Mon, 2008-03-03 at 14:53 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 21:21 +0100, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
> > I always preferred the second one and that's, what I started with to
> > enhance/change it:
> >
> > "LEAF is a Linux Embedded Appliance Framework.
> > Branches provides various a
On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 21:21 +0100, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
> I always preferred the second one and that's, what I started with to
> enhance/change it:
>
> "LEAF is a Linux Embedded Appliance Framework.
> Branches provides various appliance-oriented tasks: LAN/WAN router, Internet
> border router
I am, have been, using Bering-1.2 to allow me to use the internet with
some safety for (obviously) several years. It doesn't seem to be broke,
and I've got other things to do besides update it. One of these days,
perhaps...
I also agree Bering is more useful than just as a firewall, and
"framewo
Hi kp,
I agree that "Linux Embedded Appliance Firewall" is now misleading and
"Linux Embedded Appliance Framework" is a much better definition.
I'm struggling to improve upon your suggestion, but I've slightly
corrected the English:
"LEAF is a Linux Embedded Appliance Framework.
Hi all;
the topic has been raised years ago, but it is IMHO still not solved.
The current project description and translation for the LEAF acronym is
Linux Embedded Appliance Firewall
At least the Bering-uClibc branch provides nowadays packages to build a
firewall, a router or even a NAS or
Alex
At 10:34 16.01.2004 +0100, Alex Rhomberg wrote:
Mike wrote:
> A Linux Embedded Appliance Framework delivered in easy-to-use
> branches. Specific branches target a variety of environments.
> Anything from enterprise networks and Internet service providers to
> small office/home
On Fri, 2004-01-16 at 12:51, Mike Noyes wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-01-16 at 12:06, Alex Rhomberg wrote:
> > LEAF is an embedded network appliance framework delivered in
> > branches. Branches are targeted at, but not limited to, the
> > following appliance-oriented tasks: LAN/WAN/Internet bo
On Fri, 2004-01-16 at 12:06, Alex Rhomberg wrote:
>
> > Linux Embedded Appliance Framework (LEAF)
> >
> > LEAF is an embedded network appliance framework delivered in
> > branches. Branches are targeted at, but not limited to, the
> > following appliance-oriented tasks: LAN/WAN router,
> we are talking about goals - some of them has eached, some of
> them not, but
> maybe in the future.
> LEAF works from home office to small office right now stable and
> with more
> features a usual user is asking for.
> We could even close down development and put everything in
> maintenance mo
> Linux Embedded Appliance Framework (LEAF)
>
> LEAF is an embedded network appliance framework delivered in
> branches. Branches are targeted at, but not limited to, the
> following appliance-oriented tasks: LAN/WAN router, Internet border
> router/firewall, wireless access point
On Fri, 2004-01-16 at 10:43, Mike Noyes wrote:
> Linux Embedded Appliance Framework (LEAF)
>
> LEAF is a embedded network appliance framework delivered in
> branches. Branches are targeted at, but not limited to, the
> following appliance-oriented tasks: LAN/WAN router, Internet border
On Thu, 2004-01-15 at 19:07, Mike Noyes wrote:
> A Linux Embedded Appliance Framework delivered in easy-to-use
> branches. Specific branches target a variety of environments.
> Anything from enterprise networks and Internet service providers to
> small office/home office environment
Am Freitag, 16. Januar 2004 10:34 schrieb Alex Rhomberg:
> Mike wrote:
> > A Linux Embedded Appliance Framework delivered in easy-to-use
> > branches. Specific branches target a variety of environments.
> > Anything from enterprise networks and Internet service providers to
> > smal
Mike wrote:
> A Linux Embedded Appliance Framework delivered in easy-to-use
> branches. Specific branches target a variety of environments.
> Anything from enterprise networks and Internet service providers to
> small office/home office environments are supported.
I haven't seen a
On Thu, 2004-01-15 at 14:14, Peter Mueller wrote:
> An easy-to-use Embedded Linux Network Applicance; LEAF, like Linux, aims to
> be scalable to all environments. I don't see the added value in LAN/WAN
> talk, although WLAN might add some relevance.
Everyone,
Does this sound any better?
A Li
>An easy to use embedded Linux network appliance for use in small
>office, home office, and home automation environments.
>to:
>An easy to use embedded Linux network appliance for use in LAN, WAN,
>and WLAN environments.
What about:
An easy-to-use Embedded Linux Network Applicance; LE
On Thu, 2004-01-15 at 13:19, Mike Noyes wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-01-15 at 12:40, Ray Olszewski wrote:
> > But my reaction comes without knowing the reason why a change is even being
> > considered. Did I somehow miss a recent thread here in which this topic was
> > "brought up again"? Or are you (Mi
On Thu, 2004-01-15 at 12:40, Ray Olszewski wrote:
> But my reaction comes without knowing the reason why a change is even being
> considered. Did I somehow miss a recent thread here in which this topic was
> "brought up again"? Or are you (Mike) getting off-list requests for revisions?
Ray,
Yes.
At 12:08 PM 1/15/2004 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote:
Everyone,
The subject of our current project description and goals was brought up
again. I'd like feedback on the state of the new version I posted here:
Description
https://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=1396&group_id=13751
I think this
Everyone,
The subject of our current project description and goals was brought up
again. I'd like feedback on the state of the new version I posted here:
Description
https://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=1396&group_id=13751
I think this sentence should change from:
An easy to
At 12:10 PM 1/26/01 -0800, Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I need to think about this some more. Thanks for the input.
Everyone,
I think we should incorporate the suggestions in this thread into a long
description of the project. We have more latitude to elaborate about the
project on o
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 11:40:09AM -0800, Jack Coates scribbled:
> maybe -- Of course, designs and efforts have been on PCs and dinky
> doohickeys like PC104, so the bus issues will keep LEAF out of the network
> core until it's ported to SPARC or DEC or something.
Hmm...I have a DECstation 5000
At 10:23 AM 1/26/01 -0800, "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Mike:
>
>Quick suggestion: sed 'home-automation' to 'home networking'.
>I've not heard X10 asked for on the LRP list in a long while.
Scott,
I want automation in there, so we can affiliate with the home automation
project
maybe -- Of course, designs and efforts have been on PCs and dinky
doohickeys like PC104, so the bus issues will keep LEAF out of the network
core until it's ported to SPARC or DEC or something.
--
Jack Coates
Monkeynoodle: It's what's for dinner!
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Mike Noyes wrote:
> At 07
An embedded Linux for use in networking. Commonly used for home and small
office LANs, LEAF is quite versatile and well suited to many tasks.
--
Jack Coates
Monkeynoodle: It's what's for dinner!
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Mike Noyes wrote:
> At 12:36 PM 1/26/01 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >On
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 09:08:06AM -0800, Mike Noyes scribbled:
> Proposed project description change:
>
> An easy to use embedded Linux network appliance for use in small
> office, home office, and home automation environments. Most commonly
> used as a gateway/router/firewall for Internet leaf
Mike:
Quick suggestion: sed 'home-automation' to 'home networking'.
I've not heard X10 asked for on the LRP list in a long while.
And, what's an "Internet leaf site"? Sounds like a web-forest
(Mirkwood?). :) Perhaps: 'Most commonly used as a gateway/router/
firewall to enhance Internet sec
At 12:36 PM 1/26/01 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 08:17:26AM -0800, Mike Noyes scribbled:
> > Current project description:
> > ~ An easy to use embedded Linux network appliance for use in small
> > ~ office, home office, and home automation environments. Although
> > ~ i
Here I go, answering a question asked to somebody else again.. :)
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 08:17:26AM -0800, Mike Noyes scribbled:
> Current project description:
> ~ An easy to use embedded Linux network appliance for use in small
> ~ office, home office, and home automation environments. Although
At 07:55 AM 1/26/01 -0800, Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The way I see it (FWIW) is that LEAF is
Current project description:
~ An easy to use embedded Linux network appliance for use in small
~ office, home office, and home automation environments. Although it
~ can be used in other wa
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