I have had Legacy for several years but have never put in any information
about Sources. I think when I got the programme initially it was just to
keep a record of my family. I have only recently subscribed to this list
(other than logging on when I had a couple of problems and then logging off
-
Kristin,
Although I also use Open Office I do not know if open and closing your .fdb in
it will will do anything to resolve the problem as I have never experienced it.
Because of the way Open Office works I rather doubt it, particularly since it
does not open the file directly.
Similarly
Also good advice on Legacy Video Training CD 1 (free to view)
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Videos.asp
Regards,
Mary Young
Legacy User Group guidelines:
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp
Archived messages:
http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/
Well, actually, I usually just use the Detail for page number, or I
probably put in the url for this specific post but if the poster has cited a
specific source I would definitely put it in the detail because I'd want to
be able to see readily that he was doing that. Or if I had 2 emails from
You may want to start with Eliz Shown Mills 4-page citation guidelines and
then upgrade to her 800+page book!
--
Pat
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From: June [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 2:52 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources etc
I have been working on correcting errors in my Master Location List. I keep
finding wrong locations - with NO ONE in the Show List (in other words - I
have corrected the error). Is there a way to have Legacy REBUILD the list -
eliminating the empty (unused) locations (which are mostly errors
File File Maintenance Master Lists Cleanup
-- Alice
- Original Message -
From: GeoSci
To: Legacy User Group
Sent: 9/24/2007 9:22:14 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Master Location List
I have been working on correcting errors in my Master Location List. I keep
finding wrong locations -
Keith, go to File-File Maintenance-Master List Be sure to back up before doing
this but it should take care of it for you.
Alice
- Original Message -
From: GeoSci
To: Legacy User Group
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 9:13 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Master Location List
I
Also, while in the Master Location List you can go to Options
Purge unused.
Jennifer
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
GeoSci
Sent: Monday, 24 September 2007 11:14 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] Master Location List
I have been working on
Hello again,
I think between all of you, you have answered my questions. I was using the
wrong term.. Where I said 'citation' I should have said 'source detail'.. and
you do explain how you use it. ;-)
The interesting thing is that there are as many ways of using sources and
source
Try: File -File Maintenance Master Lists Cleanup
Jennifer
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
GeoSci
Sent: Monday, 24 September 2007 11:14 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] Master Location List
I have been working on correcting errors in my Master
Master Location List
Options button
Purge unused.
A log of purged locations is created so you can see what has been removed.
Cathy
At 09:13 PM 24/09/2007, you wrote:
I have been working on correcting errors in my Master Location
List. I keep finding wrong locations - with NO ONE in the Show
Master Locations List
Options
Purge Unused
Rich in LA CA
--- GeoSci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have been working on correcting errors in my
Master Location List. I keep
finding wrong locations - with NO ONE in the Show
List (in other words - I
have corrected the error). Is there a way to
Hi Cathy,
I am new to Legacy but not to genealogy. I guess I
should first admit that I am a splitter - although I
didn't realize that until I started reading this list.
I don't understand your arguement that splitting is
ignoring the structure of having Master Sources and
Source Details.
maybe you can help with a similar problem.? i merged a gedcom file into legacy
from ftm.? there were some home addresses for two people but i dont keep
addresses in my legacy db.? for some reason i can not delete the address even
tho i tried unlinking the two people.? when i edit each person
Another way: When you are in the Master Location List, there is an Options
button on the right - click on Options Purge unused. . .
This will also provide a list of what it purged if you click Yes.
Bob Rowe
~mn~
-- Original message --
From: GeoSci [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I
Pat,
1. If I read the original question correctly you wanted to connect a
source to a picture. Legacy does not have that feature.
2. Ron explained how you can attach a picture to a source. In fact the
pictures can be attached to a Master Source and a different picture can
be attached to the
Hi Linda,
I occasionally have a Master Source where it is appropriate to put
something in the Master Source Text. For example, that's where I
currently have transcriptions of certificates. I have other things
like unidentified newspaper cuttings which I have entered as separate
master
Have you checked whether these people are in your database twice?
Since you've merged a file, the merge might not have been completed
leaving you with two copies. If they are duplicated they'll have
different RINs so check the RIN associated with the address and the
RIN of the same person
I have been putting the pictures of tombstones in place of a person photo when
I don't have a personally photo, and of course these show up in my reports and
for my web pages. I have for quite some time wished I could have the option
for 2 photos to print on these. In my opinion, it's almost
There is a blog posted by Dick Eastman regarding the Legacy Cruise, if
anyone is interested. The blog begins:
This week's newsletter is being sent from a cruise ship, presently
located about 1,000 miles northeast of Hawaii. The Carnival Spirit
departed Vancouver, British Columbia last Wednesday
Cathy, thanks for the ideas but... both persons are unique and are the only
ones that show as linked to the address.? the address shows in my master
location list.? when i edit either one and click on the add/edit address icon
only the name shows, the address information does not appear.
Hello June, and welcome to the fray!
I think Jenny Benson's response is about the best you will find on this
subject. To that I would add just these random thoughts:
Sourcing is not nearly as complicated as it sounds from reading posts to the
list. Here you're seeing comments from many people
OK, Let's say I have a photo of my grandfather that I want to appear in the
Family View, on charts, etc.
Is there a way to do that thru attaching it to a SOURCE???
I understand why attaching a picture to a source can be a good thing, but I
absolutely do not understand why we can't attach a
Ron:
Are you saying that you have a picture attached to *every* paper-based
source in your database? Years ago when I was an FTM user I was told that
attaching pictures to the file would make the database too large and slow
the program down drastically so I never developed the habit and have
Checked out the blog. Wow, sounds like a great trip! Makes me kick myself a
little...
Thanks Susan!
Rob
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Daily
Sent: September 24, 2007 12:03 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup
Subject: [LegacyUG] Fwd: Hello
Let's say I have a census or other source that says the subject was a miller
in 1850 and lived in Smith Co., ST.
I enter this info as an event (Occupation) and I assume this was in the
same county so I add the county part in brackets in the location field
(especially since I know he lived on
Hi Kirsten:
That was the reason I switched from FTM to Legacy. Apparently attaching
photos to FTM continually makes the database larger and larger (at least
back in FTM 2005). But because Legacy only *links* to each photo, your
database stays the same size whether you have photos attached or not.
Hi Pat,
Just because there is a blank there, doesn't mean you have to fill it
with anything. Lots of times my locations simply read He was a
laborer from 1891 to 1920. I use the location for the residence
event(s).
I wouldn't like to make an assumption without better proof. Recently I
just found
Kirsten,
Yes that is exactly what I am saying. I guess I have around 5000 files in my
computer and on average each will have around 3 censuses and may also have
copies of BMDs attached to them. Additionally, of course, I have quite a large
number of photos.
The thing with Legacy is that it
Pat:
For estimated locations I used to use probably Bridgewater, Plymouth
Colony but then my Master Location list got too full of probablies and it
wasn't clear whether probably was qualifying Bridgewater or Plymouth
Colony or both. Now I'm using a format like this: Bridgewater [probably],
Pat,
To display a picture in the Family View click the photo-frame icon and add it
to the Gallery for that person. When it's in the Gallery and highlighted click
the asterix. You may only display one.
It is not possible to Display a picture attached to a source in the Family View
unless you
Hi Pat,
There is indeed a way to handle it... don't make assumptions. *grin*
If you do make them never enter them as anything other than a note and
explain why you made the assumption. If the info is iffy then never
entey it in source, place, event, etc.
Now granted, this will lead to a lot
Hello,
I'm another newbie to the list and I am doing the same thing... correcting
and rearranging sources.
In very old records I get errors if I put the counties in because the
counties did not exist until a later date. I am not sure whether I should
omit the county and use the two commas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cathy, thanks for the ideas but... both persons are unique and are the
only ones that show as linked to the address. the address shows in my
master location list. when i edit either one and click on the add/edit
address icon only the name shows, the address
Ron, I don't know how to open the file in OOo, so instructions would be
appreciated. Maybe I should use the other suggestion reinstall. I tend
to try a lot of programs, and something could have been corrupted!
--
Kirstin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ronald ferguson wrote:
Kristin,
Although I also
Pat Hickin wrote:
Let's say I have a census or other source that says the subject was a
miller in 1850 and lived in Smith Co., ST.
I enter this info as an event (Occupation) and I assume this was in
the same county so I add the county part in brackets in the location
field (especially since
Hi Carol,
I'll leave it to someone from the States to answer you questions realting to
them.
Regarding Europe, and many other countries, the standardised geo formats with
those horrible multiple commas (in my opinion) simply do not work. My advice to
you is to do as we do, and enter European
Ive been using cemetery photos for people without face photos as well,
Syble cuz at least Ive got something to show. But I really dont
understand why there are options for burial, birth, marriage photos on the
Individuals Information tab and marriage tabs when they dont actually show
up.
Hi Kristin,
I though you had already tried a reinstall! I will send you the details of
opening Legacy fdb files in OOo off list.
Ron Ferguson.
_
For Genealogy, Software and Social visit:
http://www.fergys.co.uk
*Over 650
Yes, I know how to do that. I just don't know how to attach to the image a
citation that will show up in the Master Source List -- and as everyone has
pointed out, it's not possible to do that. I'd like to know WHY!!
--
Pat
- Original Message -
From: ronald ferguson [EMAIL
Carol:
I've tackled the same problems as you describe and have come up with two
different solutions. For European locations, especially in Germany, I list
the location as it's shown on the source document and for country I use now
Germany. In the past I've spent literally weeks trying to figure
Yesu, I know -- I've got zillions of blank locations, but sometimes it would
be helpful to have the location, especially when I'm looking at a list of a
bunch of people who lived in different areas, etc. And when I'm 80% sure of
a locality but have no hard evidence, etc.
--
Pat
-
Thanks for your ideas.
I wish there was a way to enter how certain we are of a particular fact,
esp. locations dates!!
--
Pat
- Original Message -
From: Pat Hickin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 1:48 PM
Subject: Re:
Richard wrote
Add his photo to his
individual page, then order the reports, choosing to
display various photos.
By reports, are you talking about charts??
This still doesn't explain how I'm to get an image from a source to display
on the family page, pedigree chart etc. What am I missing??
Phil Hawkins wrote
Blank spaces make it easier to find missing data and highlight areas of
research needed.
That's true. I guess there are advantages and disadvantages for everything.
--
Pat
- Original Message -
From: Phil Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
For any item that is questionable, I add a # to the entry. It adds only
one character to the entry and all the similar items (city, etc) still
sort together, with the verified items in one group and the questionable
items in another group. For the Location example, it would be
Bridgeport#,
Linda McCauley wrote
Since the Master Source has a space for entering Text of Source, I
don't see how lumpers would ever use that space (which is a part of the
Legacy source structure).
I may be wrong (and it's too late for me to be wanting to go off and
check it now), but I am fairly
Kirsten,
Thanks. I may end up with as many nows as I have already of. However,
reading the helpful suggestions here, I think I will put the of and now
after and not before the location?
I will use your comments on the early locations in Colonial America. I
can then note the counties that I
Hello again,
I have various difficult to handle personal and surnames:
Mc, Mac and La surnames where the next letter is capitalized without a space
between: Legacy will not let me do this: McVey, LaDuke…
Sephardic/Spanish surnames where the mother’s surname is listed after the
Carol, which version of legacy are you using and is it Standard or Deluxe?
In general, if you go to optionscustomiseData Entry and make sure Don't
change what I enter is selected; the programme should handle all surname
formats. However, I have many McDonalds and Legacy handles that type of
Carol:
In order to get Legacy to let you put the names the way you want, go to
Options, Customize, Data Format and select Don't change what I enter.
I haven't dealt with Sephardic/Spanish surnames, so I can't give you guidance
there - but for the Von, Van, von de. I personally put the
--- Cathy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How do you use Show List when you're a splitter?
Cathy
Cathy,
I'm really, really new to Legacy (like 3 weeks) so I
haven't begun to uncover all the uses for many
functions - that's one reason I started reading this
list and it's archives (and I must say
It does it to me all the time. I know why, and ignore
it.
Rich in LA CA
--- familyjesse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I'm another newbie to the list and I am doing the
same thing... correcting
and rearranging sources.
In very old records I get errors if I put the
counties in because
thanks Phil, it was in the marriage event!? i guess i locked in on the
individuals showing as linked and totally missed checking the marriage event.
-Original Message-
From: Phil Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 5:26 pm
Subject:
Have you put the photo in the Picture Gallery? What
charts are we talking about? Some of the reports do
not allow photos. Most of the 'charts' in Legacy are
blank forms for printing and hand filling in. Print
outs with data in then are called reports (most of the
time).
When they are added to the
I was sent some of my father's ashes and since this was interstate it
was required that a Disposition Transit Permit be included. How have
folks included these? As a source and add it to the cremation event
and then add a note indicating this was only a portion of the ashes?
Jim
Legacy User
I know how to ADD sources by tag #, and I know how to delete a source and
all references to it, but is there a way to keep the source for some
individuals and remove it from some others (to whom I've assigned a
particular tag #)?
--
Pat
Legacy User Group guidelines:
Yes, I have photos in the Picture Gallery, and have starred the ones I want
to show.
The charts I'm talking about the ones available in the Legacy Charting Beta
program and that will be added to Legacy 7, if I understand things
correctly.
--
Pat
- Original Message -
From: RICHARD
Hi, Cathy,
If I have a separate source for each census year and each locality, I just
click Show List -- it just doesn't list as many people as if I had just one
source for each census year and state.
Does that make sense?
--
Pat
- Original Message -
From: Linda McCauley [EMAIL
What a great idea! Thanks so much, John!
--
Pat
John wrote
For any item that is questionable, I add a # to the entry. It adds only
one character to the entry and all the similar items (city, etc) still
sort together, with the verified items in one group and the questionable
items in
I don't know why it doesn't work. I have done it. I
will explain what I have done exactly.
I have a photocopy of a census record. I originally
added to my ggrandfather, since he is on it. I also
added the same photo to each of the family members
there. I then called up the Edit Master Source
If you have Beta, and others don't, that group
discusses this stuff on the separate list running for
the fixing of the program. I don't have it and didn't
want it.
Rich in LA CA
--- Pat Hickin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, I have photos in the Picture Gallery, and have
starred the ones I want
Pat wrote:
I wish there was a way to enter how certain we are of a particular fact,
esp. locations dates!!
Pat, NO fact/event/relationship is 100% certain. It is ALL a guess with
certainties ranging from 0-99%, and that is why documentation and source
citation are so important. Of course,
Hi Syble and Christine,
Whether or not all the photos you want displayed
are presented depends on which report you use or
which combination of reports you use. It also
depends on the ways in which you've chosen to
attach photos. You do need to experiment.
Legacy 7 won't solve all the
He did, and I sometimes do, but only when it is a
unique reference, and not a 'lumper' type.
Rich in LA CA
--- Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Linda McCauley wrote
Since the Master Source has a space for entering
Text of Source, I
don't see how lumpers would ever use that space
What I did, and will not change it back. Just
remembered, it is in customize, Data format, don't
change what I enter. 2 places.
Rich in LA CA
--- familyjesse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello again,
I have various difficult to handle personal and
surnames:
Mc, Mac and La surnames
Listers,
Please take this topic off list. In the recent past there have bee a few Legacy
User Group subscribers that can't handle this topic in a mature, civil manner.
If you need more information on this topic please see
http://www.moss-fritch.com/legacy.htm or check the Legacy User Group
Are you meaning permanently to 1/2 and remove from
1/2, or keep 100% of source, but change tag, or
something else?
Rich in LA CA
--- Pat Hickin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know how to ADD sources by tag #, and I know how
to delete a source and
all references to it, but is there a way to keep
That would be the surety tag on the source detail screen.
Mary
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat
Hickin
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 6:20 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location List--use
Well stated Mr. Cohen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cafi Cohen
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 6:43 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Master Location List--use of brackets?
Pat wrote:
I wish there was
Hi Linda,
That's it - it shows who is using the source.
How helpful that list is depends on how you've defined the Master
Source. Split to extreme and it's an irrelevant list as the very few
people using the source are actually named in or obvious from the source.
I can use it to very
Kristin,
You said you'd done everything on the Legacy help pages for your error 91.
Uninstall and reinstall is one of the things it says to do.
Perhaps you need to go back and read it carefully and see what else
you haven't done.
Cathy
At 05:41 AM 25/09/2007, you wrote:
Ron, I don't know
Hi Carol,
I trust you've found the settings in Options
Customise to solve many of your problems.
I can't really comment on how to handle different
naming conventions. European users may be able to
give you advantages and disadvantages of using
the prefixes and suffixes as you are. I
That's Mrs. Cohen :)
Sorry about my confusing first name (Cafi). Irritating to explain it all the
time (first two letters of MY parents last names), but VERY useful for
finding me on the Internet.
Well stated Mr. Cohen
Pat wrote:
I wish there was a way to enter how certain we are of a
Hi Pat,
Not as far as I know. You need to use your tagged list and go in and
remove the sources individually. This is easiest done in the Name
List/Search List. Show the group you've tagged and bring the Source
tab to the front and just work down it.
Probably it could be done in Access but I
Some people do it more like this: Smith County (probably), Tennessee
It sorts to the right spot that way. The only downside is that if you
reference that county frequently, the probably version comes up first, and
you have to type a little more to get the plain old Smith County,
Tennessee
Hi Pat,
Occasionally I'd like to be able to note the source of a picture as
well. Currently I mainly include my source in the picture filename.
eg all the photos I've scanned from my aunt's photo albums begin
eva### where the ### is sequential numbers.
Legacy currently doesn't have the
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