Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-21 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 07:15:17 -0800 (PST) Thomas Passin wrote: > On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 3:39:36 AM UTC-5, stevelitt wrote: > > > > > > If you're taking notes, and you want the absolute fastest input to > > an outline, VimOutliner's what you want. Several times I've taken > >

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-19 Thread Matt Wilkie
> > zettels ... would be your thoughts on a matter after you have taken your > notes and read your references. They are decomposed into small, > well-focused bits that you can think about and refine over time, and that > you will link to other atoms. > Thanks for the re-focusing

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-19 Thread Thomas Passin
On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 3:39:36 AM UTC-5, stevelitt wrote: > > > If you're taking notes, and you want the absolute fastest input to an > outline, VimOutliner's what you want. Several times I've taken > contemporaneous, well outlined and well organized notes while attending >

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-19 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 13:26:04 -0800 (PST) Matt Wilkie wrote: > > > > I just found the MindForger project. This actually looks like it > > might do a lot of what we like, and very nicely. It used to be a > > Linux app, but now there's a Windows installer too (Actually, it's > > a QT5 project).

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-18 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi, On 18/02/20 4:26 p. m., Matt Wilkie wrote: > My dream personal info manager and writing environment has the > structural organization and muscles of Leo, the pliable flexiblity of > Joplin, plump cushyness of Onenote, all together supported, wrapped > and transported as single solid entity

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-18 Thread Matt Wilkie
> > I just found the MindForger project. This actually looks like it might do > a lot of what we like, and very nicely. It used to be a Linux app, but now > there's a Windows installer too (Actually, it's a QT5 project). It uses > Markdown, and stores its > With Mindforger and TheBrain are

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-18 Thread andyjim
On Monday, February 17, 2020 at 11:55:32 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > I just found the MindForger project. This actually looks like it might do > a lot of what we like, and very nicely. It used to be a Linux app, but now > there's a Windows installer too (Actually, it's a QT5 project).

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-18 Thread Thomas Passin
On Monday, February 17, 2020 at 11:55:32 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > I just found the MindForger project. This actually looks like it might do > a lot of what we like, and very nicely. [snip] > In addition, it's a Markdown editor renders to a panel, and exports to > HTML. > > So it

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-18 Thread andyjim
I tried it briefly years ago too, and don't recall why I quit. I think it did have bugs at that time. What format are files stored in? Is it 'forward compatible'? I haven't yet downloaded the free version now, but very much like the capability of a variety of types of links. That's a big

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-17 Thread Thomas Passin
I just found the MindForger project. This actually looks like it might do a lot of what we like, and very nicely. It used to be a Linux app, but now there's a Windows installer too (Actually, it's a QT5 project). It uses Markdown, and stores its data in Markdown files. It has several types

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-17 Thread Thomas Passin
On Monday, February 17, 2020 at 3:58:48 PM UTC-5, rengel wrote: > > Hi, I just stumbled upon this particular post, but didn't read the whole > thread. But from what I sense here, you are talking about problems that > have been solved by another product that has been dicussed cursorily >

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-17 Thread rengel
Hi, I just stumbled upon this particular post, but didn't read the whole thread. But from what I sense here, you are talking about problems that have been solved by another product that has been dicussed cursorily elsewhere on this forum: *TheBrain* (i.e. see the tutorials

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-15 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 10:22 AM andyjim wrote: So a child, through cloning, can also be parent of its parent? > No. That would create a cycle. Leo carefully checks for this and warns if a move or drag would create such a cycle. And a sibling can also be parent of another sibling? > Yes,

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-15 Thread andyjim
Thank you Edward, that helps. I can sense that I'm not going to really get it until I do it and find the real world benefits in my own world. I will begin. So a child, through cloning, can also be parent of its parent? And a sibling can also be parent of another sibling? If I grasp this

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-15 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 11:27 AM andyjim wrote: > One thing I wish I understood better is the acyclic graph model, how that plays out in Leo and what it accomplishes for us in organization/linking. In an acyclic graph, a node may have multiple parents. In Leo, all such nodes are clones. They

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-14 Thread Thomas Passin
On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 12:27:31 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > > And Thomas, perhaps I need to read your papers on semantic processing > (haven't done so yet), as it seems that's more or less what the > zettelkasten model offers (maybe the Leo model, in fact), and it appears > you are

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-14 Thread Thomas Passin
On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 12:27:31 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > One thing I wish I understood better is the acyclic graph model, how that > plays out in Leo and what it accomplishes for us in organization/linking. > It's not too hard to grasp the basics, @andyjim. A graph is a set of

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-14 Thread andyjim
Well, this gives me a lot to think about. I've been more or less assuming the idea of one zettel/one node as being a limiting one, but perhaps it's the opposite, given all the capabilities of a node, hardly any of which I am familiar with. And that's what I need to do: dig in and get familiar

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-14 Thread Thomas Passin
On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 7:50:56 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 7:08 PM Thomas Passin > wrote: > > > Using Leo, and making each note be a separate node, we can get just > that kind of ID for free. > > Not "kinda" for free. It's *completely *free for users.

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-14 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 7:08 PM Thomas Passin wrote: > Using Leo, and making each note be a separate node, we can get just that kind of ID for free. Not "kinda" for free. It's *completely *free for users. It's one of Leo's essential features. This didn't *happen* for free behind the scenes :-)

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-14 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 9:58 PM andyjim wrote: > A node for each zettel? Thousands of them? > Yes. This is perfectly possible. LeoPyRef.leo contains thousands of nodes, each containing source code. Look, I can't stress this enough. Leo is the ultimate filing cabinet. "Boxes" can contain other

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-13 Thread Thomas Passin
On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 10:58:01 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > A node for each zettel? Thousands of them? > Well, yes, that's what I've been been envisioning. Having thousands of them - whether they are represented as Leo nodes or some other way - will require us to be smart at

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-13 Thread andyjim
A node for each zettel? Thousands of them? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-13 Thread Thomas Passin
On Monday, February 10, 2020 at 9:54:53 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: Maybe it's as simple as entering my UID manually when I prep a file for the > parser, though in that case I would not be using the full YYMMDDHHMMSS > format, probably just YYMMDDxx, since date will be the finest granularity >

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-11 Thread Thomas Passin
On Monday, February 10, 2020 at 9:54:53 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > > Anybody know how to recover old MS Word 2003 files where I've lost the > password? > *Maybe* ... These are some solutions out there to be found through an internet query. A few of them look relatively simple. How

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-10 Thread andyjim
Thanks for being patient with this non-programmer. And I'm glad I stumbled in here and stumbled upon the right person who has a personal interest in Zettelkasten. Are we more or less caught up now? Have I answered all questions where you wanted my responses? What's next step? Any other

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-10 Thread Thomas Passin
On Saturday, February 8, 2020 at 11:41:38 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > Speaking for myself, with my use case, where the system is for thoughts, I > want as little clutter and distraction as possible, which is the main > reason I’ve never even used markdown. When I’m thinking and writing my >

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-08 Thread andyjim
Speaking for myself, with my use case, where the system is for thoughts, I want as little clutter and distraction as possible, which is the main reason I’ve never even used markdown. When I’m thinking and writing my thoughts, I don’t want to have to think about anything at all but writing

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-06 Thread Thomas Passin
On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 11:18:39 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > > On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 10:59:37 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: >> >> Andy, thanks for your comments. I will give my reaction to them in a >> series of posts, one per item. >> > > Continuing my reactions