Re: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers?

2006-11-15 Thread Tom Livingston
FWIW, around here designs are looked at by my dept. before hand at which point we talk about ³do-ability² and offer suggestions and compromises so everyone has the same expectations as to what the end product will be. At least that¹s how it¹s _supposed_ to work... ;-) HTH a little... -- Tom

Re: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers?

2006-11-14 Thread Tony Crockford
Susie Gardner-Brown wrote: I'm mostly wanting to explain/show what can be done using CSS instead of actual images, so their design takes advantage of what CSS has to offer, and doesn't have to use graphic images to create the effect they want to achieve. Dunno if that's any clearer ... grin

Re: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers?

2006-11-14 Thread Gary Barber
Tony Crockford wrote: Susie Gardner-Brown wrote: I'm mostly wanting to explain/show what can be done using CSS instead of actual images, so their design takes advantage of what CSS has to offer, and doesn't have to use graphic images to create the effect they want to achieve. Dunno if

Re: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers?

2006-11-14 Thread Joshua Street
On 11/14/06, Nick Cowie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spent a day at CSS Zen Garden showing what can be done (and to get some inspiration), the designer went away and produced a couple of illustrator files that got converted into HTML and CSS very easily. +1 for designs coming from Illustrator!

Re: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers?

2006-11-14 Thread Tony Crockford
Susie Gardner-Brown wrote: Thanks everyone - good discussion, suggestions and links! I found the link I was planning to post with my last email: http://leftjustified.net/site-in-an-hour/ hth ;o) -- Join me: http://wiki.workalone.co.uk/ Thank me:

Re: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers?

2006-11-14 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 14 Nov 2006, at 07:13:48, Paul Novitski wrote: I'm leaning toward the opinion that Photoshop is not a good tool in web design ... Fonts are anti-aliased At one design studio where I worked I went round to all the designers showing them how to turn off Photoshop's font anti-aliasing.

Re: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers?

2006-11-14 Thread Jim Callender
Hi,-- Susie Gardner-Brown wrote --Does anyone have any experience here, or can point to any resources that might assist? There is always something of interest on latest CSS and design issues on www.dontmeetyourheroes.com and www.popurls.com . and of course the toolkit for design and code at

Re: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers?

2006-11-14 Thread Barney Carroll
Nick Fitzsimons wrote: On 14 Nov 2006, at 07:13:48, Paul Novitski wrote: I'm leaning toward the opinion that Photoshop is not a good tool in web design ... Fonts are anti-aliased At one design studio where I worked I went round to all the designers showing them how to turn off Photoshop's

Re: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers?

2006-11-14 Thread Felix Miata
On 2006/11/14 17:26 (GMT) Barney Carroll apparently typed: Do most people have ClearType turned off, though? The answer to this is the same as that about how many people change their default font size and/or family from the installation default. Those that know nothing about the capability

Re: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers?

2006-11-14 Thread Christian Montoya
On 11/14/06, Barney Carroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do most people have ClearType turned off, though? Sadly, I see enough people without it to say that if it isn't on by default, they will never turn it on themselves. -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.com ...

RE: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers?

2006-11-14 Thread Samuel Richardson
: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers? On 2006/11/14 17:26 (GMT) Barney Carroll apparently typed: Do most people have ClearType turned off, though? The answer to this is the same as that about how many people change their default font size and/or family from the installation default. Those

Re: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers?

2006-11-14 Thread Michael Yeaney
Just for another point of view, I intentionally turned off ClearType - for whatever reason, it causes my eyes to strain, almost as if they cannot focus completely. Mike *** List Guidelines:

Re: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers?

2006-11-13 Thread Susie Gardner-Brown
Title: Re: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers? Ill have a look at tht. But theres no way the university would pay to get something done outside when we already have the staff here! Its maybe a matter of control. The GDs are the ones who decide the graphic layout, colours, fonts, heading

Re: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers?

2006-11-13 Thread John Faulds
I don't know if you'll find any of these useful: http://www.digital-web.com/articles/designing_for_the_web/ http://www.markboulton.co.uk/index.php/journal/C107/ On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:15:44 +1000, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I¹ll have a look at tht. But there¹s no way the

Re: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers?

2006-11-13 Thread Christian Montoya
On 11/13/06, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're having a GD/programmer meeting tomorrow to try and broaden people's knowledge, and work out a few guidelines about the 'rubbery line' between the GD and the Programmer's CSS responsibility. Does anyone have any experience here, or

RE: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers?

2006-11-13 Thread Matthew Hodgson
Title: Re: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers? I agree with Christian.Do wireframes, then make them pretty,and then cutup the PSD files yourself so that it works on-screen, rather than being dictated to by a pixel-perfect design. That said though, StyleMaster (http

RE: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers?

2006-11-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Title: CSS resources for Graphic designers? Hi Susie, If I was in QLD I would help out. Im a web designer and having a good knowledge between the programmer and designer From my experience they come from almost different planets. You should write a book, Programmers are from Pluto,

Re: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers?

2006-11-13 Thread Donna Jones
Hi Susie: I think I'm in a similar position to you with a website that will be re-designed soon by the print designer. She's great and really knows her stuff and understands the web somewhat (probably more than most traditional designers) and I've been thinking of trying to collect a few

Re: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers?

2006-11-13 Thread John Faulds
If I was in QLD I would help out. I am in QLD so may be able to help you out further if you need it but I think it's hard to deal with generalities. It seems you're saying the code the GDs turn out is not up to standard. But whose standard? Is it yours or does the university have a clear

Re: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers?

2006-11-13 Thread Susie Gardner-Brown
Title: Re: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers? I guess I'm not explaining myself properly. I don't expect Graphic Designers to produce code. I expect to do that myself (as a web developer) In the past (in table-based layout days), the graphic designer on the team would either provide

RE: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers?

2006-11-13 Thread Matthew Hodgson
on behalf of Susie Gardner-Brown Sent: Tue 14/11/2006 3:42 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers? I guess I'm not explaining myself properly. I don't expect Graphic Designers to produce code. I expect to do that myself (as a web developer

RE: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers?

2006-11-13 Thread Samuel Richardson
Smoljak Sent: Tuesday, 14 November 2006 4:02 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers? Hi Susie, On 11/14/06, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the past (in table-based layout days), the graphic designer on the team would either

Re: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers?

2006-11-13 Thread John Faulds
For that I would encourage them to visit the CSS Zen Garden I'd be wary of recommending the Zen Garden for the fact that a lot of the designs don't represent best practice CSS coding. Yes they're great examples of how you can break boundaries, but you'll also find examples where a lot of

RE: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers?

2006-11-13 Thread Samuel Richardson
: Tuesday, 14 November 2006 4:32 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers? For that I would encourage them to visit the CSS Zen Garden I'd be wary of recommending the Zen Garden for the fact that a lot of the designs don't represent best practice CSS

Re: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers?

2006-11-13 Thread Susie Gardner-Brown
Thanks everyone - good discussion, suggestions and links! - susie *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers?

2006-11-13 Thread Paul Novitski
Susie, Graphic designers making a successful transition to the web need to let go of a lot of the fine control they exercise routinely in print design. Suddenly the page becomes a rubbery thing, resizable by the user and morphable by changing content. A single static image is to a web page

Re: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers?

2006-11-13 Thread Nick Cowie
It is all dependant on how willing your graphic designer is to let go of certain features of their design. (ie font choice on menu items).It works a lot easier if you have website guidelines and/or corporate style guide. (I had four - State Government website guidelines, State Government style