Paul Mison [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Just another reminder that there's a social meeting on Thursday evening
at the Cittie of Yorke, High Holborn. We have the downstairs bar (at
the back- if you see suits, wander past them and look for more geeky
attire) booked from 6; if you're there early,
Exegesis 4 is out:
http://www.perl.com/lpt/a/2002/04/01/exegesis4.html
(and also this message demonstrates that Pendrel is working)
Nicholas Clark
Check out http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html
Just in case you hadn't heard already
Exegesis 4 - http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2002/04/01/exegesis4.html
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Greg McCarroll wrote:
Assumption 3 : People still want to use the server.
Yes, as far as I'm concerned.
Assumption 4 : No one is doing intel specific work on it.
Not really. I do have binaries and *.so lying around (such as Perl XS stuff)
but it shouldn't be anything a recompile wouldn't
Hello folks...
I was put onto this list by the very very helpful Mr Alex McClintock.
Sorry to barge right in with a technical Q, but I don't suppose anyone has any
experience of using DBD::Sybase?
I don't seem to be able prepare statements with placeholders in them!
Many thanks,
Simon
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Greg McCarroll wrote:
Ok, so it may be hearsay but i believe Penderel has had more problems,
so I have a proposal, but lets start with the assumptions i am making
...
[snip assumptions]
If the above assumptions are true, I propose we strip Penderel of its
scsi drive
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
there is currently an advert for radio 6,
Radio 6?
My gods, when you leave a country, the BBC starts spawning like crazy.
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On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 12:10:24PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
admin it) and put said 9gb drive into it. Then we will take Dave's
SS10 and install sparc linux [1] on it and attach the 9gb drive, so
the internal SS10 drive (4Gb) will do / and the (9Gb) will do
/home. We are currently at
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 01:37:24PM +0200, Newton, Philip wrote:
Greg McCarroll wrote:
Assumption 4 : No one is doing intel specific work on it.
but it shouldn't be anything a recompile wouldn't cure (at least I hope
not). I was thinking of maybe installing a new perl of my own anyway (it's
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 12:10:24PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
Ok, so it may be hearsay but i believe Penderel has had more problems,
so I have a proposal, but lets start with the assumptions i am making
Thoughts?
Will the new box be named Yorke?
--
mike
It's tricky to rock a rhyme, to
Although I've
a) never contributed anything
b) prob not 'up' enough to contribute anything
c) have never bin to a social/tech meeting
I can
a) donate an external SCSI if wanted
HTIOU
D
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From: greg
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To: london.pm
Cc: greg
Subject:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hello folks...
I was put onto this list by the very very helpful Mr Alex McClintock.
Sorry to barge right in with a technical Q, but I don't suppose anyone has any
experience of using DBD::Sybase?
I don't seem to be able prepare statements with placeholders in
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 01:37:24PM +0200, Newton, Philip wrote:
not). I was thinking of maybe installing a new perl of my own anyway (it's
5.7.2 or something like that at the moment), or perhaps I'll just use the
system perl (which will be, what -- 5.6.1? 5.8.0? something else?)
I'd suggest
Mike Jarvis wrote:
Will the new box be named Yorke?
That would tend to reduce confusion, wouldn't it? Or we'd have to talk about
old and new penderel... and from what I gather on the list, PO has
rather fallen out of favour as a meeting place now anyway, hasn't it?
Cheers,
Philip
--
Philip
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 01:35:34PM +0100, Michael Stevens wrote:
I've never used DBD::Sybase, but I've been told that placeholders
don't work with it. I don't know how reliable that information is.
If so, interesting. Because I seem to remember that mysql doesn't offer
placeholders, but the
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Greg McCarroll wrote:
If the above assumptions are true, I propose we strip Penderel of its
scsi drive (9gb) and flog Penderel on ebay to some lucky punter. We
can then buy a scsi housing (if we have enough cash left over we could
also buy an ups, if not lets buy drinks
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 04:41:15AM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
Paul (who definitely would like to see a more maintainable OS running
there *psst* debian *psst* :-)
Which reminds me of a question...
I have a Redhat box at work (not my choice of distribution).
What's the Redhat equivalent of
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Simon Wilcox wrote:
Could you not mount the HD internally ?
Research indicates the SS10 can take two drives internally. I admit my
reasearch is probably incomplete.
Assuming it's the same in that respect as an SS20, then yes, 2 internal
bays, though you need the
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 01:35:34PM +0100, Michael Stevens wrote:
I've never used DBD::Sybase, but I've been told that placeholders
don't work with it. I don't know how reliable that information is.
If you search on google for dbd::sybase placeholders you'd find out :-)
Apparently it's
Simon Wilcox [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Could you not mount the HD internally ?
Research indicates the SS10 can take two drives internally. I admit my
reasearch is probably incomplete.
Make sure that there's plenty of ventilation in that case, they can
get rather warm. Hot disks == good
On 02/04/2002 at 17:44 +0100, anathema wrote:
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
there is currently an advert for radio 6,
Radio 6?
My gods, when you leave a country, the BBC starts spawning like crazy.
Yeah, it's, um, seven [0]? tv channels and six national radio networks,
with two more
Michael Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 01:04:03PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hello folks...
I was put onto this list by the very very helpful Mr Alex McClintock.
Sorry to barge right in with a technical Q, but I don't suppose
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 04:41:15AM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
Quite honestly, I think you could be underestimating the hassle involved
with a reinstall and copy-over onto a different architecture.
I've gone from Irix to Linux, from Deadrat to Deviant, with mostly no
problems. Just takes a
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 01:03:12PM +, the hatter wrote:
or you can run solaris with its good breeding on sparc, which
loves the hardware.
Thankyou for volunteering to admin it.
--
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Educating this luser would
Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 04:41:15AM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
Paul (who definitely would like to see a more maintainable OS running
there *psst* debian *psst* :-)
Which reminds me of a question...
I have a Redhat box at work (not my choice of
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Richard Clamp wrote:
I'd suggest that the system perl (/usr/bin/perl) be left to the mercy
of the distribution, and that multiple /usr/local/perl5.* installs are
probably going to scratch the widest selection of itches[1].
Now this would be a top idea. I don't test my
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, David Cantrell wrote:
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 01:03:12PM +, the hatter wrote:
or you can run solaris with its good breeding on sparc, which
loves the hardware.
Thankyou for volunteering to admin it.
That's no problem at all[0]. Just get the box to me some time,
ok, to try and steer us back on track
[do we want to do this?]
yes people are using the box and are also annoyed at the downtime
[internal mounting]
great, then lets just bung the scsi inside, unless ventilation is a
problem (see below)
[buying a new pee cee]
a new PC may be close to no
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 02:46:35PM +0100, Paul Mison wrote:
Of course most of the population is still on analogue and only gets the
five analogue terrestrial channels. Until they switch off the
transmitters. In eight years time. (Pause to chortle at the
impracticality of this idea after ITV
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 02:46:35PM +0100, Paul Mison wrote:
Of course most of the population is still on analogue and only gets the
five analogue terrestrial channels. Until they switch off the
transmitters. In eight
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Greg McCarroll wrote:
[internal mounting]
[offers of scsi bits and bobs]
[ventilation]
We could sort all of those bits, if we pull out the existing smaller disk
and replace it with a single, larger one, using the cradle from the
existing one, and thus no ventilation
Apologies this is not threaded but I read the list via the archives.
If you do decide to replace the motherboard and processor, I have a
spare case with processor, mobo, memory and CD that could be used as
a staging post whilst new components are fitted to pendrel.
Shout (off list, I'm subbed
Paul Mison [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
BBC One, BBC Two, ITV One, Channel 4, Channel 5.
Unless you live in one of the most heavily populated areas in the
south of England, in which case you can't and won't get C5 through and
aerial (sp?). Doh.
Still, it's all a good excuse to quot;switch off
* the hatter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
We could sort all of those bits, if we pull out the existing smaller disk
and replace it with a single, larger one, using the cradle from the
existing one, and thus no ventilation problems (which may be an issie with
2 disks, as they're mounted one on
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 03:53:40PM +0100, Rob Partington wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 02:46:35PM +0100, Paul Mison wrote:
Of course most of the population is still on analogue and only gets the
five analogue
On 03/04/2002 at 15:53 +0100, Rob Partington wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 02:46:35PM +0100, Paul Mison wrote:
Of course most of the population is still on analogue and only
gets the
five analogue terrestrial channels.
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 02:56:02PM +, the hatter wrote:
I'm actually vaguely surprised that we can't between us come up with a
fairly nippy and nice peecee.
You're new here aincha :-)
lets not do this debate at all, linux admin experience is in the most
supply in this group, so lets
Sorry to lower the tone of the conversation, but is anyone amongst your
esteemed ranks able to help an inexperienced Perl programmer ?
Is there, from within a perl program, a mechanism to show the total amount
of memory the program is using at any given point ?
Regards,
Rhys Hopkins.
Culver
Neil Ford wrote:
If you do decide to replace the motherboard and processor, I have a
spare case with processor, mobo, memory and CD that could be used as
a staging post whilst new components are fitted to pendrel.
Intel or AMD?
Cheers,
Philip
--
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All opinions
On 03/04/2002 at 16:24 +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
Huh? He said it was impractical to turn off the analogue transmitters
because ITV Digital went bust, the implication being that without ITVD
there would be no digital terrestrial TV so they wouldn't be able to
turn off analogue broadcasts. It
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 05:36:13PM +0200, Newton, Philip wrote:
Neil Ford wrote:
If you do decide to replace the motherboard and processor, I have a
spare case with processor, mobo, memory and CD that could be used as
a staging post whilst new components are fitted to pendrel.
Intel or
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 04:42:18PM +0100, Paul Mison wrote:
On 03/04/2002 at 16:24 +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
Huh? He said it was impractical to turn off the analogue transmitters
because ITV Digital went bust, the implication being that without ITVD
there would be no digital terrestrial
Rhys Hopkins wrote:
Is there, from within a perl program, a mechanism to show the
total amount of memory the program is using at any given point ?
Most programs I've seen attempt to parse the output of `ps` somehow.
Cheers,
Philip
--
Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All opinions are my own,
At 15:35 02/04/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Running Weblogs With Slash by chromatic, Brian Aker, David Krieger
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/runblogslash/
Paul - you are welcome to copy this review onto the London.pm website if
you wish.
It has already been on slashdot which tripled my hits
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 06:21:37PM +0200, Newton, Philip wrote:
Most programs I've seen attempt to parse the output of `ps` somehow.
This works for my version of ps:
perl -e 'print `ps -ho sz $$`'
Perl is my bitch. ps is a ho. :-)
This reminds me of days gone by when I was debugging a
Andy Wardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perl is my bitch. ps is a ho. :-)
Talk dirty to me some more.
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the hatter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyway, I'm sure most of the current admin-folk
would like some experience on a real OS.
Mee-ow! :)
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Free Tibet!
With purchase of second Tibet of equal or greater value.
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On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, anathema wrote:
the hatter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyway, I'm sure most of the current admin-folk
would like some experience on a real OS.
Mee-ow! :)
Less miaw, more get off my bridge. But really, any clueful linux
admin is capable of fixing most problems on
the hatter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip sun stuff
My only real experience with Sun boxen has been in porn. Did you know
hexdrivers could do that?
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Free Tibet!
With purchase of second Tibet of equal or greater value.
Limit two Tibets per customer. -
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, anathema wrote:
the hatter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip sun stuff
My only real experience with Sun boxen has been in porn.
Sounds like a sound recruitment strategy, little will attract people to
new technologies than good, wholesome, life-giving porn.
the hatter
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 11:48:50PM +, the hatter wrote:
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, anathema wrote:
the hatter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip sun stuff
My only real experience with Sun boxen has been in porn.
Sounds like a sound recruitment strategy, little will attract people to
new
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 09:10:28PM -0500, anathema wrote:
David H. Adler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My only real experience with Sun boxen has been in porn.
Sounds like a sound recruitment strategy, little will attract people to
new technologies than good, wholesome, life-giving porn.
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